[fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-17 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Hi, Any FPC developer willing to comment on the status of some of these issues (that have been years overdue)? Original Message Subject: Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4 Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 08:57:15 +0100 From: John Doe 1 <> To: mseide-msegui-t...@lists.sourc

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-17 Thread Sven Barth
Am 17.12.2012 10:36, schrieb Graeme Geldenhuys: It seems to me, main target of FPC development today is compatibility to the "modern" Delphi language constructs, I don't want to go this route. And? Some people want to have these features (especially I want generic, I want helpers, I want closure

Re: [fpc-devel] Delphi's current TThread implementation

2012-12-17 Thread Michael Schnell
On 12/16/2012 05:41 PM, Sven Barth wrote: Please note that (as I already described in another message) TThread.Queue now is an officially documented function (using overlay procedures with alternate parameters). Thanks, -Michael ___ fpc-devel mailli

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-17 Thread Sergei Gorelkin
17.12.2012 13:55, Sven Barth пишет: smart linking MSEide on 64 bit Linux is not possible with 2GB ram, Linking is a problem of ld, not of Free Pascal. ld was not designed for the workload we put on it (especially regarding smart linking). You could try however if the new internal ELF linker so

Re: [fpc-devel] Delphi's current TThread implementation

2012-12-17 Thread Sven Barth
Am 17.12.2012 11:23 schrieb "Michael Schnell" : > > On 12/16/2012 05:41 PM, Sven Barth wrote: > > Please note that (as I already described in another message) TThread.Queue now is an officially documented function (using overlay procedures with alternate parameters). I know that (partly from your

Re: [fpc-devel] Delphi's current TThread implementation

2012-12-17 Thread Michael Schnell
On 12/17/2012 12:32 PM, Sven Barth wrote: I know that (partly from your mail), but this does not explain some of the things they are doing in the background (like what happens with exceptions raised inside a queued function) I see. Interesting stuff :-) . Thanks, -Michael

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-17 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Sven Barth schrieb: still no Delphi-like packages... They are planned long term, but they are no cheesecake feature. We need to implement them in a way so that at least the major platforms (Windows, Linux, Mac OS X) can make use of it and already the difference regarding procedure name resolu

Re: [fpc-devel] mips-linux and mipsel-linux snapshots available

2012-12-17 Thread Nikolai Zhubr
Hi Sergei and Mark, 16.12.2012 12:41, Sergei Gorelkin: [...] This was caused by insufficient alignment of Double-typed temp variables, fixed in r23146. Moreover, it appeared that function UnixToWinAge wasn't doing anything useful since year 2005, so it was removed in r23145, making FindFirst/Find

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-17 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 17/12/12 13:06, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: > > We should wait for and explore how the multi-target Delphi handles that. Probably not even implemented, because Delphi IDE is Windows only - and there are no plans to make a cross-platform IDE by Embarcadero. Regards, - Graeme - -- fpGUI To

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-17 Thread Sven Barth
Am 17.12.2012 14:06, schrieb Hans-Peter Diettrich: Sven Barth schrieb: still no Delphi-like packages... They are planned long term, but they are no cheesecake feature. We need to implement them in a way so that at least the major platforms (Windows, Linux, Mac OS X) can make use of it and alr

Re: [fpc-devel] mips-linux and mipsel-linux snapshots available

2012-12-17 Thread michael . vancanneyt
On Mon, 17 Dec 2012, Nikolai Zhubr wrote: Hi Sergei and Mark, 16.12.2012 12:41, Sergei Gorelkin: [...] This was caused by insufficient alignment of Double-typed temp variables, fixed in r23146. Moreover, it appeared that function UnixToWinAge wasn't doing anything useful since year 2005, so i

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-17 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Sven Barth schrieb: Am 17.12.2012 14:06, schrieb Hans-Peter Diettrich: Sven Barth schrieb: still no Delphi-like packages... They are planned long term, but they are no cheesecake feature. We need to implement them in a way so that at least the major platforms (Windows, Linux, Mac OS X) can m

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-17 Thread Sven Barth
Am 17.12.2012 16:20, schrieb Hans-Peter Diettrich: Sven Barth schrieb: Am 17.12.2012 14:06, schrieb Hans-Peter Diettrich: Sven Barth schrieb: still no Delphi-like packages... They are planned long term, but they are no cheesecake feature. We need to implement them in a way so that at least t

Re: [fpc-devel] mips-linux and mipsel-linux snapshots available

2012-12-17 Thread Nikolai Zhubr
17.12.2012 19:12, michael.vancann...@wisa.be: [...] The FPC team has a MIPS device (longsoon?) available. It's currently switched off, but can be switched on at any time. Ah, ok. That's good news. If it is longsoon then it must be much faster than mine. (Though IIRC it only exists in little e

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-17 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 17/12/12 15:29, Sven Barth wrote: > I predict that we'll reach a point in > the near(!) future where we won't (be able to) follow Delphi's lead > anymore. And what a good day that will be. FPC will can innovate again. Delphi hasn't been leading for years, and Embarcadero is milking a dead co

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-17 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: On 17/12/12 15:29, Sven Barth wrote: I predict that we'll reach a point in the near(!) future where we won't (be able to) follow Delphi's lead anymore. And what a good day that will be. FPC will can innovate again. Delphi hasn't been leading for years, and Embarcadero

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-17 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Sven Barth wrote: From what I see so far of the route that Embarcadero takes (complete reimplementation of compiler, sudden appearence of "type helpers" and things like "zero based strings") I predict that we'll reach a point in the near(!) future where we won't (be able to) follow Delphi's l

[fpc-devel] Building the Android branch

2012-12-17 Thread Sven Barth
Hello together! I'm currently testing the Android branch and I've already reached a problem when trying to build it. I've downloaded the current Android NDK r8c and then tried to run the following command line: make all OS_TARGET=android CPU_TARGET=arm CROSSBINDIR=/mnt/data/downloads/dev/and

[fpc-devel] Re: Building the Android branch

2012-12-17 Thread Thomas Schatzl
Hi, On Mon, 2012-12-17 at 21:45 +0100, Sven Barth wrote: > Hello together! > > I'm currently testing the Android branch and I've already reached a > problem when trying to build it. I've downloaded the current Android NDK > r8c and then tried to run the following command line: > > make all OS

[fpc-devel] Re: Building the Android branch

2012-12-17 Thread Sven Barth
On 18.12.2012 00:10, Thomas Schatzl wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, 2012-12-17 at 21:45 +0100, Sven Barth wrote: >> Hello together! >> >> I'm currently testing the Android branch and I've already reached a >> problem when trying to build it. I've downloaded the current Android NDK >> r8c and then tried t