Re: [fpc-devel] fpdoc and fv

2008-08-25 Thread Michael Schnell
Michael Van Canneyt wrote: Someone else generates the pdf classchart from a OpenOffice spreadsheet. Would it not be appropriate to base a help system (for the RTL functions) on something like DelphiCodeToDoc and do an automation for the process ? With this the Lazarus hopefully could

Re: [fpc-devel] fpdoc and fv

2008-08-25 Thread Mattias Gärtner
Zitat von Michael Schnell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Michael Van Canneyt wrote: Someone else generates the pdf classchart from a OpenOffice spreadsheet. Would it not be appropriate to base a help system (for the RTL functions) on something like DelphiCodeToDoc and do an automation for the

Re: [fpc-devel] fpdoc and fv

2008-08-25 Thread Michael Schnell
Lazarus context sensitive help shows documentation of the fpdoc files and comments from pasdoc (similar to javadoc, DelphiCodeToDoc) and it browses through the class hierarchy to show ancestor help. The help content can be edited in the IDE context sensitive or via lazde and Kirk is doing a

Re: [fpc-devel] fpdoc and fv

2008-08-25 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Michael Schnell said: Lazarus context sensitive help shows documentation of the fpdoc files and comments from pasdoc (similar to javadoc, DelphiCodeToDoc) and it browses through the class hierarchy to show ancestor help. The help content can be edited in the IDE

Re: [fpc-devel] fpdoc and fv

2008-08-25 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Mon, 25 Aug 2008, Marco van de Voort wrote: In our previous episode, Michael Schnell said: Lazarus context sensitive help shows documentation of the fpdoc files and comments from pasdoc (similar to javadoc, DelphiCodeToDoc) and it browses through the class hierarchy to show

Re: [fpc-devel] fpdoc and fv

2008-08-25 Thread Michael Schnell
I still like the principle though. I do understand this. But especially with the non-English versions it would be nice to make the update of the help texts as easy as possible to enable the casual volunteer to get involved. -Michael ___

Re: [fpc-devel] fpdoc and fv

2008-08-25 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 8/25/08, Marco van de Voort [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally I despise wiki'ed manuals. They are horrible quality, over-hyperlinked beasts of ugly. I always get the feeling that those everybody hacks away online manuals are more obsessed with the process than with the result. I

Re: [fpc-devel] fpdoc and fv

2008-08-25 Thread Mattias Gärtner
Zitat von Michael Schnell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Lazarus context sensitive help shows documentation of the fpdoc files and comments from pasdoc (similar to javadoc, DelphiCodeToDoc) and it browses through the class hierarchy to show ancestor help. The help content can be edited in the IDE

Re: [fpc-devel] fpdoc and fv

2008-08-25 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 8/25/08, Michael Schnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I still like the principle though. I do understand this. But especially with the non-English versions it would be nice to make the update of the help texts as easy as possible to enable the casual volunteer to get involved. As an

Re: [fpc-devel] fpdoc and fv

2008-08-25 Thread Michael Schnell
Do you mean the fact that an external browser is started or the fpdoc html pages or the wiki pages? The search functions are bad in all three of them. I did not want to start a long winded discussion here :( IMHO the context-sensitive online-help (in Lazarus) is simply not usable (while

Re: [fpc-devel] fpdoc and fv

2008-08-25 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Mon, 25 Aug 2008, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: On 8/25/08, Michael Schnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I still like the principle though. I do understand this. But especially with the non-English versions it would be nice to make the update of the help texts as easy as possible

Re: [fpc-devel] fpdoc and fv

2008-08-25 Thread Aleš Katona
In Delphi I simply type a word (i.e. TForm) in an empty line and press F1 to get help on TForm. This is the usual way I learn about new components I'd like to use. This does not seem to work for me in Lazarus. This works perfectly for me in Lazarus. Perhaps I missed something but unless you

Re: [fpc-devel] fpdoc and fv

2008-08-25 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 8/25/08, Mattias Gärtner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the German Lazarus forum there recently has been a discussion on improving the (German) help. There had been a suggestion to use a Wiki to update / enhance the help texts. The online help already uses the wiki for the IDE windows

Re: [fpc-devel] fpdoc and fv

2008-08-25 Thread Mattias Gärtner
Zitat von Michael Schnell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Do you mean the fact that an external browser is started or the fpdoc html pages or the wiki pages? The search functions are bad in all three of them. I did not want to start a long winded discussion here :( Yes, noted. But some points you

Re: [fpc-devel] fpdoc and fv

2008-08-25 Thread Mattias Gärtner
Zitat von Graeme Geldenhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 8/25/08, Mattias Gärtner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the German Lazarus forum there recently has been a discussion on improving the (German) help. There had been a suggestion to use a Wiki to update / enhance the help texts. The

Re: [fpc-devel] fpdoc and fv

2008-08-25 Thread Michael Schnell
This works perfectly for me in Lazarus. Perhaps I missed something but unless you mean offline help NO I did test offline help by d/lding the help file and setting the path to same. This of course is no difference to the online version (if the internet connection works). or out of context

Re: [fpc-devel] fpdoc and fv

2008-08-25 Thread Michael Schnell
Yes, noted. But some points you mentioned I don't understand. So I wonder if you spotted a bug. See my other message in this thread about context on what I thing that might not work as designed. - there should be examples for the use of the topic There are already some examples in

Re: [fpc-devel] fpdoc and fv

2008-08-25 Thread Mattias Gärtner
Zitat von Michael Schnell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This works perfectly for me in Lazarus. Perhaps I missed something but unless you mean offline help NO I did test offline help by d/lding the help file and setting the path to same. This of course is no difference to the online version (if the

Re: [fpc-devel] fpdoc and fv

2008-08-25 Thread Mattias Gärtner
Zitat von Michael Schnell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [...] There are already some examples in the docs. So the system is there and _only_ needs to be filled. So an _easy_ way to have the users provide examples might be helpful. Well, it is not a one click action, but it is not difficult

Re: [fpc-devel] fpdoc and fv

2008-08-25 Thread Michael Schnell
have no information about the Delphi help system and how to use it platform independent. Maybe you can provide some links? Sorry I don't have any experience in _making_ a third party Delphi help, but many of my colleagues do _use_ third party Delphi help file for the packets we bought.

[fpc-devel] Class chart generator

2008-08-25 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
Hi, I just committed a small program under fpdoc - fpclasschart - which will create a XML tree with all classes/objects/interfaces it finds in a set of files. The sources are parsed and forward class declarations are skipped. It has support for merging class trees. It's thoroughly tested on

[fpc-devel] Unicode functions

2008-08-25 Thread JoshyFun
Hello FPC, Working in a new piece of code I had noted that: A: WideString; A:=UpCase(A); returns exactly the same string (WinXP FPC 2.2.2), as this functions seens to not be implemented right now I started to work in some functions for this job at least for the simple cases, this means one low