Re: [fpc-devel] progress of freepascal for mips
Am 05.06.2012 02:43, schrieb Leonardo M. Ramé: From: Jonas Maebejonas.ma...@elis.ugent.be To: Leonardo M. Ramémartinr...@yahoo.com; FPC developers' listfpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org Sent: Monday, June 4, 2012 7:19 PM Subject: Re: [fpc-devel] progress of freepascal for mips On 04 Jun 2012, at 23:56, Leonardo M. Ramé wrote: You are right, the machine (http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/power/hardware/560/specs.html) doesn't have a MIPS processor, but an IBM's Power6. BTW, does anyone know which Linux distribution runs on that machine? http://www.google.be/search?hl=enq=IBM+Power+560+Express+linux - http://www.acclinet.com/ibm-servers/ibm-power-560-server.asp can FPC be compiled to run on it?. Yes, both under AIX and under Linux (either the ppc32 or the ppc64 version of FPC). That means that there is a native version of FPC or an emulated x86 version? Natively for both AIX and Linux. Regards, Sven ___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-devel
Re: [fpc-devel] Question about Currency support
Fuxin Zhang wrote on Tue, 05 Jun 2012: Is it the test program taddcurr.pp cannot work for non-x86 systems? It works on SPARC at least: http://www.freepascal.org/testsuite/cgi-bin/testsuite.cgi?action=3run1id=113194testfileid=99 It doesn't work on ppc32 currently, but that's due to a bug in the ppc32 code generator somewhere (the ppc compiler halts with an internalerror; I haven't had the time yet to properly debug it). Jonas ___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-devel
Re: [fpc-devel] progress of freepascal for mips
microcode wrote on Tue, 05 Jun 2012: The best OS is the one IBM made for it, AIX which is a POSIX UNIX with IBM extensions (and great doc!). It's true that IBM has great documentation. But AIX has quite a few quirks compared to other Unices, even commercial/traditional big iron ones like Solaris. My main pet peeve is that it does not protect against reads from nil pointers for optimization reasons. I've collected some more at http://wiki.freepascal.org/FPC_AIX_Port#AIX_quirks Another one, which isn't mentioned on that page because it doesn't affect end users of the compiler/RTL, is that AIX uses different code page names in libiconv than all other Unix-based platforms we support. That's in part because the iconv standard isn't worth the name standard (it defines almost nothing), but it would have been nice if the IBM people could have added some extra code page names so as to be more compatible with other libiconv implementations. Jonas ___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-devel
Re: [fpc-devel] progress of freepascal for mips
microc...@zoho.com wrote: On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 14:56:06 -0700 (PDT) Leonardo M. Ramé martinr...@yahoo.com wrote: You are right, the machine (http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/power/hardware/560/specs.html) doesn't have a MIPS processor, but an IBM's Power6. BTW, does anyone know which Linux distribution runs on that machine?, can FPC be compiled to run on it?. Leonardo M. Ramé http://leonardorame.blogspot.com Congrats, that's a nice box. POWER6 is one generation behind but from what I read it can still run the latest version of AIX. The best OS is the one IBM made for it, AIX which is a POSIX UNIX with IBM extensions (and great doc!). You should be able to get a copy without too much difficulty if one isn't already installed. On the same page you linked above, there is a list of some Linux that are certified to run on your box. Running Linux on it would be a horrible waste of a good server. You can probably virtualize Linux and BSD instances under AIX though, as you had mentioned in your first post. With the caveat that, as I understand it, this is a hardware-assisted partitioning operation and is likely to have a very different feel from things like VMWare. As an example (and possibly you can confirm this), my understanding is that there are facilities in the system firmware, i.e. accessed from something analogous to a BIOS setup screen, that dictate how SCSI devices will be distributed between LPARs. In any event, if Leonardo successfully runs Linux or BSD in a partition I hope he writes it up somewhere. My PPC system is only an old Mac running Debian, but I think having the info would be useful. -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's, not those of his employers or colleagues] ___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-devel
Re: [fpc-devel] Question about Currency support
Fuxin Zhang wrote on Tue, 05 Jun 2012: Is it the test program taddcurr.pp cannot work for non-x86 systems? It works on SPARC at least: http://www.freepascal.org/testsuite/cgi-bin/testsuite.cgi?action=3run1id=113194testfileid=99 It doesn't work on ppc32 currently, but that's due to a bug in the ppc32 code generator somewhere (the ppc compiler halts with an internalerror; I haven't had the time yet to properly debug it). I have found the cause of failure: double div 99900/1.0 = 9.99 in round to nearest mode, =9.899.. in round to zero mode. After correcting the related fpc_setfsr, taddcurr.pp now pass. Jonas ___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-devel
Re: [fpc-devel] progress of freepascal for mips
From: Mark Morgan Lloyd markmll.fpc-de...@telemetry.co.uk To: fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2012 6:38 AM Subject: Re: [fpc-devel] progress of freepascal for mips microc...@zoho.com wrote: On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 14:56:06 -0700 (PDT) Leonardo M. Ramé martinr...@yahoo.com wrote: You are right, the machine (http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/power/hardware/560/specs.html) doesn't have a MIPS processor, but an IBM's Power6. BTW, does anyone know which Linux distribution runs on that machine?, can FPC be compiled to run on it?. Leonardo M. Ramé http://leonardorame.blogspot.com Congrats, that's a nice box. POWER6 is one generation behind but from what I read it can still run the latest version of AIX. The best OS is the one IBM made for it, AIX which is a POSIX UNIX with IBM extensions (and great doc!). You should be able to get a copy without too much difficulty if one isn't already installed. On the same page you linked above, there is a list of some Linux that are certified to run on your box. Running Linux on it would be a horrible waste of a good server. You can probably virtualize Linux and BSD instances under AIX though, as you had mentioned in your first post. With the caveat that, as I understand it, this is a hardware-assisted partitioning operation and is likely to have a very different feel from things like VMWare. As an example (and possibly you can confirm this), my understanding is that there are facilities in the system firmware, i.e. accessed from something analogous to a BIOS setup screen, that dictate how SCSI devices will be distributed between LPARs. In any event, if Leonardo successfully runs Linux or BSD in a partition I hope he writes it up somewhere. My PPC system is only an old Mac running Debian, but I think having the info would be useful. -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's, not those of his employers or colleagues] I have no problem at all, in fact, I would like to create a VM for the FPC team for testing. Hopefully I'll start trying to create a Linux or Bsd machine on it this week. Leonardo M. Ramé http://leonardorame.blogspot.com ___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-devel
