Re: [fpc-devel] Summer of code collaboration

2013-02-10 Thread Vittorio Giovara
Indeed, a fpc-js code generator would have a rather limited use. A LLVM backend instead could be use on many more levels, and for example could improve (or replace) the compilation process on iOS. Plus I would like that this collaboration would be about something that could be useful for many

Re: [fpc-devel] Summer of code collaboration

2013-02-10 Thread Florian Klaempfl
Am 10.02.2013 15:23, schrieb Vittorio Giovara: Indeed, a fpc-js code generator would have a rather limited use. A LLVM backend instead could be use on many more levels, and for example could improve (or replace) the compilation process on iOS. Improve in which regard? Experience showed that

Re: [fpc-devel] Summer of code collaboration

2013-02-10 Thread Florian Klaempfl
Am 10.02.2013 15:23, schrieb Vittorio Giovara: Indeed, a fpc-js code generator would have a rather limited use. A LLVM backend instead could be use on many more levels, and for example Not to mention that I estimate that full llvm support with debugging and extending llvm to support

[fpc-devel] State of extended RTTI

2013-02-10 Thread Maciej Izak
Hi, What is the state of Extended RTTI (like in Delphi 2010 and up)? You can read in the comment by Sven One of the developers has started to implement class attributes and I’m rather sure that the enhanced RTTI will come sooner or later as well http://www.deltics.co.nz/blog/?p=1129 How's he

Re: [fpc-devel] State of extended RTTI

2013-02-10 Thread Sven Barth
On 10.02.2013 14:19, Maciej Izak wrote: Hi, What is the state of Extended RTTI (like in Delphi 2010 and up)? You can read in the comment by Sven One of the developers has started to implement class attributes and I’m rather sure that the enhanced RTTI will come sooner or later as well

Re: [fpc-devel] Summer of code collaboration

2013-02-10 Thread Vittorio Giovara
On 10/feb/2013, at 15:58, Florian Klaempfl flor...@freepascal.org wrote: Am 10.02.2013 15:23, schrieb Vittorio Giovara: Indeed, a fpc-js code generator would have a rather limited use. A LLVM backend instead could be use on many more levels, and for example could improve (or replace) the

Re: [fpc-devel] Summer of code collaboration

2013-02-10 Thread Jonas Maebe
On 10 Feb 2013, at 20:12, Vittorio Giovara wrote: The iOS experience could be improved in many ways, for example in Xcode you cannot set a breakpoint and when you do so with gdb all you get is an assembly viewer I don't remember ever hearing about this or seeing a bug report about this.

Re: [fpc-devel] Summer of code collaboration

2013-02-10 Thread Florian Klämpfl
Am 10.02.2013 20:12, schrieb Vittorio Giovara: Well the existence of external tools is what has allowed technology to foster and advance, In a perfect world, with unlimited cpu resources, yes. eg have some common grounds and entry points... Your (limited) example is not exactly perfect,

Re: [fpc-devel] Summer of code collaboration

2013-02-10 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Vittorio Giovara said: Well the existence of external tools is what has allowed technology to foster and advance, eg have some common grounds and entry points... Your (limited) example is not exactly perfect, the tools that fpc bundle on windows are often outdated and

Re: [fpc-devel] Summer of code collaboration

2013-02-10 Thread Jonas Maebe
On 10 Feb 2013, at 21:07, Marco van de Voort wrote: Note though that one of the reasons why FPC tools are old is because they are the most up to date mingw versions. Before they abandonned the tools we were using, and set up everything in MSYS. At least the mingw binutils are still

Re: [fpc-devel] Summer of code collaboration

2013-02-10 Thread Sven Barth
On 10.02.2013 21:29, Jonas Maebe wrote: On 10 Feb 2013, at 21:07, Marco van de Voort wrote: Note though that one of the reasons why FPC tools are old is because they are the most up to date mingw versions. Before they abandonned the tools we were using, and set up everything in MSYS. At

Re: [fpc-devel] Random compiler errors

2013-02-10 Thread Jeppe Græsdal Johansen
Den 10-02-2013 21:47, Adriaan van Os skrev: I maintain a large 600.000 FreePascal project that compiles for Mac OS X. It mixes MacPascal and Delphi compiler modes. Unfortunately the compiler is now producing random error messages, that disappear on a clean rebuild. The error messages are not

Re: [fpc-devel] Summer of code collaboration

2013-02-10 Thread Henry Vermaak
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 10:08:29PM +0100, Marco van de Voort wrote: In our previous episode, Jonas Maebe said: Note though that one of the reasons why FPC tools are old is because they are the most up to date mingw versions. Before they abandonned the tools we were using, and set up

Re: [fpc-devel] Summer of code collaboration

2013-02-10 Thread Vittorio Giovara
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 8:39 PM, Jonas Maebe jonas.ma...@elis.ugent.bewrote: On 10 Feb 2013, at 20:12, Vittorio Giovara wrote: The iOS experience could be improved in many ways, for example in Xcode you cannot set a breakpoint and when you do so with gdb all you get is an assembly viewer

Re: [fpc-devel] Summer of code collaboration

2013-02-10 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Henry Vermaak said: Sven already replied, but roughly in the coreutils package. (the former findutils and diffutils iirc) Sorry if this is a daft question, but can't you use the msys coreutils? Or do they have some limitation? IIRC they were less adapted to

Re: [fpc-devel] Summer of code collaboration

2013-02-10 Thread Henry Vermaak
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 11:04:59PM +0100, Marco van de Voort wrote: In our previous episode, Henry Vermaak said: Sven already replied, but roughly in the coreutils package. (the former findutils and diffutils iirc) Sorry if this is a daft question, but can't you use the msys