Re: [fpc-devel] -Oodfa

2011-12-30 Thread Micha Nelissen
Florian Klämpfl wrote: Am 30.12.2011 02:00, schrieb Martin: Florian wrote at http://bugs.freepascal.org/view.php?id=20907 c:\fpc\svn\compilerfpc ..\tw20907 -vw -Oodfa Is that documented somewhere ? Is that production read or beta? Beta. I'am not aware of any missing stuff, but it's mainly

Re: [fpc-devel] Extended type

2011-04-21 Thread Micha Nelissen
Florian Klaempfl wrote: Am 19.04.2011 15:18, schrieb Marco van de Voort: You'll need to runtime test for SSE3 though. Since the first generation of athlon64's (clawhammer and friends, socket 751 or so) doesn't have SSE3. For such a relatively expensive operations, one runtime check per

Re: [fpc-devel] GetMem(SomePointer, 0) nil

2011-03-01 Thread Micha Nelissen
Paul Ishenin wrote: 01.03.2011 19:29, Jonas Maebe wrote: That sounds very much like badly written code. For simplicity we had the next code: GetMem(SomeArray, Count * SizeOf(ArrayCell)) if SomeArray nil then DoSomeLogic; DoSomeLogic ... with a Count = 0, right? or was Sizeof(...) = 0? :-)

Re: [fpc-devel] Interface scope incompatibility with Delphi

2010-11-10 Thread Micha Nelissen
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: am saying is that in the current released Delphi versions (at least down to D7, probably D6 too) this feature works. The mouse cursor trick using the same Interface behaviour has been in tiOPF code for years, and I think that's where I saw it first. Should FPC be

Re: [fpc-devel] Interface scope incompatibility with Delphi

2010-11-10 Thread Micha Nelissen
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: same application behaviour and outcome, using the same source code. That's got nothing to do with performance as far as I'm concerned. Because you're a brainless moron. Micha ___ fpc-devel maillist -

Re: [fpc-devel] Interface scope incompatibility with Delphi

2010-11-10 Thread Micha Nelissen
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: a managed code environment with garbage collection. So I guess most developers would expect common out of scope rules apply. When a local variable is defined and you leave that method/procedure, it's out of scope. *picky mode* exactly this is true for FPC as well. But

Re: [fpc-devel] Need advice for refactoring

2010-07-19 Thread Micha Nelissen
Florian Klaempfl wrote: Anyways, why do you want to do the same change twice? Just make it once and merge. In a distributed environment this is more common, like: person B partially pulls (some commits) from person A, and person C pulls from both A and B. Or a diamond where B and C pull

Re: [fpc-devel] Need advice for refactoring

2010-07-19 Thread Micha Nelissen
Florian Klaempfl wrote: Micha Nelissen schrieb: In a distributed environment this is more common, like: person B partially pulls (some commits) from person A, and person C pulls from both A and B. Or a diamond where B and C pull from A, and D pulls from B and C. Yes, but those are merges

Re: [fpc-devel] FPC/Delphi/FastMM4/TopMemory speed test

2010-07-17 Thread Micha Nelissen
Adem wrote: I did some rough + emprical (i.e. non-exhaustive + non-authoritative) tests with the native memory managers of -- x64 FPC (v2.4.3)/Lazarus (v0.9.29-26670), -- Delphi (2010), So this is 32 bit vs 64 bit? Micha ___ fpc-devel maillist -

Re: [fpc-devel] Unit loading overhead

2010-07-17 Thread Micha Nelissen
Jonas Maebe wrote: Total memory usage barely changes (from 297MB to 299MB). I guess it's no For the compiler use case .. ;-) Perhaps the compiler creates a lot of same sized blocks, while other (smaller) applications allocate many different sizes; say use a lot of different sizes classes.

Re: [fpc-devel] Unit loading overhead

2010-07-17 Thread Micha Nelissen
Jonas Maebe wrote: 256kB on 297MB isn't much; but if a program has typical memory use of e.g. 3MB it is significant ;-). They could still change it in their application's startup code. We could also set a different default for the embedded rtl. I think applications using 300MB+ are the

Re: [fpc-devel] Unit loading overhead

2010-07-17 Thread Micha Nelissen
Marco van de Voort wrote: In our previous episode, Micha Nelissen said: I think applications using 300MB+ are the exception, not the rule; In absolute numbers: sure. In cases where memory management performance is limiting, they are more likely to be memory intensive apps. How do you know

Re: [fpc-devel] Unit loading overhead

2010-07-17 Thread Micha Nelissen
Jonas Maebe wrote: All applications but the ones that allocate a only few memory blocks (especially in case it's a few small blocks of many different sizes) would benefit from this change, not just apps allocating hundreds of megabytes at the same time (it also helps in case applications

Re: [fpc-devel] Messages overhead

2010-07-16 Thread Micha Nelissen
Daniël Mantione wrote: Compiler speed can loose from maintainability, but it can also loose from code quality; the performance of your application is probably also worth a lot to you. Does FPC compile significantly faster when using -O- then? Micha

Re: [fpc-devel] Messages overhead

2010-07-16 Thread Micha Nelissen
Daniël Mantione wrote: Op Fri, 16 Jul 2010, schreef Micha Nelissen: Does FPC compile significantly faster when using -O- then? That is irrelevant; for example the register allocator made the compiler slower (initially even 3 times, but we managed to reduce it to a few ten %), but had great

Re: [fpc-devel] arm embedded cortexM3 unrecognized opcode

2010-07-14 Thread Micha Nelissen
Nataraj S Narayan wrote: Hi May I ask why do we need a CONFIG_OABI_COMPAT=y in the kernel to for fpc to work on arm-linux? The fpc target for eabi is called 'armel', the 'arm' target compiles for oabi. Regards, Micha On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Jeppe Johansen jepj...@kom.aau.dk

Re: [fpc-devel] fpdoc content syntax suggestion

2010-07-09 Thread Micha Nelissen
Michael Van Canneyt wrote: Well, I don't see the point in learning yet another syntax (however simple If the time it takes to learn the new syntax is less than the time saved modifying and writing documentation then it's worthwhile ;-). Micha ___

Re: [fpc-devel] Threading support and C library under Linux/Unix

2010-06-23 Thread Micha Nelissen
Michael Schnell wrote: unfortunately we are in a realtime system and the priority of thread 2 is set higher than that of thread 1 and thus thread 1 never gets a CPU Priority inversion? Isn't this a problem with any InterlockedC/E? Micha ___

Re: [fpc-devel] Threading support and C library under Linux/Unix

2010-06-22 Thread Micha Nelissen
Marco van de Voort wrote: Huh? Do stock Linux kernels still support a.out? Since afaik ELF was only added in 1.1.52 ? It's a kernel option to support it. Most distro's choose module here I think? (Autodetect when used) Micha ___ fpc-devel

Re: [fpc-devel] Specialized Generic for Structures with Abstract Methods

2010-06-22 Thread Micha Nelissen
Andrew Brunner wrote: ... then I get C:\Developer\Source\Libraries\Core\uInt64Array.pas(54,17) Error: Forward declaration not solved GStructList$Int64.Empty(var Int64); Please always provide a complete compilable example. Micha ___ fpc-devel

Re: [fpc-devel] Parameters must match exactly?

2010-05-18 Thread Micha Nelissen
Florian Klaempfl wrote: ... and one uses normally a function and not a var/out parameter. That also would need a typecast since the function would return a parent class of the real class that was created, but the somehow the callee knows it's a descendent, so needs a cast to get to it (or

Re: [fpc-devel] cmem not aligning memory

2010-04-03 Thread Micha Nelissen
C Western wrote: Inspecting the cmem unit indicates the issue is the extra bytes allocated for the count - is this really needed? Or do we have to allocate more bytes for blocks that are a multiple of 8? Do C memory managers guarantee any alignment anyway? Not for SSE (16 bytes) I'm sure,

Re: [fpc-devel] GetHeapStatus.TotalAllocated

2010-02-13 Thread Micha Nelissen
Nikolai Zhubr wrote: Now, I'm starting to suspect that negative TotalAllocated values just result from doing deallocations in a different thread, which is what my programm actually does all the time. I'll go to make a small test. Maybe it's related to (or the same as) bug 14315?

Re: [fpc-devel] LLVM Backend?

2009-11-17 Thread Micha Nelissen
Jonas Maebe wrote: On 17 Nov 2009, at 08:18, Vincent Snijders wrote: If you look at CPU secs, then the factor is 3 at most. What helps the C++ programs most is that they use 4 cores more, the fpc programs are mostly singlethreaded. LLVM doesn't help to solve this (AFAIK). Anyway, the above

Re: [fpc-devel] Could FPC add the PLM based construct?

2009-11-16 Thread Micha Nelissen
Giuliano Colla wrote: var Pfoo: pointer; foo: any valid FPC Type based Pfoo; or foo: based Pfoo any valid FPC type; . Pfoo: pointer; PBfoo: PByte absolute Pfoo; PIfoo: PInteger absolute Pfoo; I don't see the difference between based and absolute, except order of keywords?

Re: [fpc-devel] Could FPC add the PLM based construct?

2009-11-16 Thread Micha Nelissen
Giuliano Colla wrote: With absolute you need a) to declare an extra type (PByte, or Declaring an extra type is one of those things that make Pascal what it is; declaring before use. whatever), b) to explicitly access the variable through the pointer (PBfoo^ as opposed to foo). But if the

Re: [fpc-devel] Source Code Optimization

2009-11-16 Thread Micha Nelissen
Dariusz Mazur wrote: Maybe it is something interesting http://www.linux-kongress.org/2009/slides/compiler_survey_felix_von_leitner.pdf Seems that LLVM doesn't do so well, but not as bad as Microsoft :P. GCC seems to be quite good. Micha ___

Re: cpstrnew branch (was Re: [fpc-devel] Freepascal 2.4.0rc1 released)

2009-11-12 Thread Micha Nelissen
Jonas Maebe wrote: If you'd want to limit the length to 2GB on 64 bit systems. I also don't know whether all 64 bit CPUs support atomic operations on 32 bit entities (for the reference count). Something might be said for compatibility towards 32 bit implementations that the maximum length is

Re: cpstrnew branch (was Re: [fpc-devel] Freepascal 2.4.0rc1 released)

2009-11-12 Thread Micha Nelissen
Micha Nelissen wrote: Intel: system programming guide vol 3 section 8.1.1 says byte, word, doubleword, quadword (since Pentium) are all atomic if they are naturally aligned. (word = 16 bits) 8.1.2.2 notes that LOCK is also best to be used on naturally aligned boundaries for 8/16/32/64 bit

Re: cpstrnew branch (was Re: [fpc-devel] Freepascal 2.4.0rc1 released)

2009-11-11 Thread Micha Nelissen
Jonas Maebe wrote: Does that mean in the cpstrnew branch and on x86_64 systems, the UTF-8 string 'a' will be 9 bytes long? No, 25 bytes. The plain ansistring 'a' is already 17 bytes on x86_64 platforms today. Is that because of sizeint? Wouldn't longint be long enough? Micha

Re: [fpc-devel] time for dumping stacktrace, when using dwarf.

2009-11-10 Thread Micha Nelissen
Schatzl Thomas wrote: Improving upon that should be trivial, all reading from the debug input has been encapsuled in the two ReadNext() methods in the file mentioned. It should be easy to make them to read from a (static?) buffer that is filled blockwise; note that a static buffer may give

Re: [fpc-devel] New feature discussion: for-in loop

2009-10-31 Thread Micha Nelissen
Vinzent Hoefler wrote: Suppose, the list items have a property Owner and the iterator calls some method that says Owner.Delete (self); somewhere. How's the compiler supposed to detect that? It can't. In general, all references to the (iterator) list need to be const at this time, but I guess

Re: [fpc-devel] Help need for FPC

2009-10-26 Thread Micha Nelissen
Михаил Абаляев wrote: Second, using FPC, i've designed my own (open source) tool ARM Pascal http://www.arm-pascal.ru/ http://www.armaide.com/ Suggestion: do not include links that have different target as its text. Thunderbird will mark your email as a scam (probably not your intention).

Re: [fpc-devel] Help need for FPC

2009-10-26 Thread Micha Nelissen
Jonas Maebe wrote: A note to people who wish to reply to this person: he is not subscribed to fpc-devel (at list not with the address he posted from), so it's best to CC him. This list is not subscribers-only? (To combat spam?) Micha ___ fpc-devel

Re: [fpc-devel] ncurses example on arm linux uclibc

2009-10-23 Thread Micha Nelissen
Nataraj S Narayan wrote: /usr/bin/arm-linux-uclibcgnueabi-ld: cannot find -lncursesw firework.pp(120,48) Error: Error while linking Add -Fl/usr/br-git-rf/lib, -Fl/usr/br-git-rf/usr/lib or whereever this library is located? Micha ___ fpc-devel

Re: [fpc-devel] ncurses example on arm linux uclibc

2009-10-23 Thread Micha Nelissen
Jonas Maebe wrote: On 23 Oct 2009, at 17:19, Micha Nelissen wrote: Add -Fl/usr/br-git-rf/lib, -Fl/usr/br-git-rf/usr/lib or whereever this library is located? No, -XR/usr/br-git-rf should cause those directories to be searched automatically (but apparently doesn't on Linux). I saw them

Re: [fpc-devel] New feature discussion: for-in loop

2009-10-21 Thread Micha Nelissen
Vinzent Höfler wrote: Von: Micha Nelissen mi...@neli.hopto.org That's why I suggested the use of 'const functions' in other message in this thread. Yes, I read that later on. Is that implemented in FPC? I don't think so; but I think it would be a useful part of the iterator proposal

Re: [fpc-devel] New feature discussion: for-in loop

2009-10-21 Thread Micha Nelissen
Michael Van Canneyt wrote: Ideally, the compiler has no knowledge at all of specific classes, and a new keyword such as Iterator (or whatever) helps in ensuring that the compiler is not contaminated with knowledge of specific classes or methods. I'm not sure how things are helped by slapping

Re: [fpc-devel] New feature discussion: for-in loop

2009-10-21 Thread Micha Nelissen
Michael Van Canneyt wrote: Because with something like Type MyIterator = Iterator(TSomeResultType,Func1,Func2,Func3); So the place in this list determines its function? Micha ___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org

Re: [fpc-devel] New feature discussion: for-in loop

2009-10-21 Thread Micha Nelissen
Michael Van Canneyt wrote: On Wed, 21 Oct 2009, Micha Nelissen wrote: So the place in this list determines its function? Yes. Just like in an operator... Hmm that's not comparable, for operators it's much more intuitive what to expect as the context is forced, Result := expr op expr

Re: [fpc-devel] New feature discussion: for-in loop

2009-10-21 Thread Micha Nelissen
Michael Van Canneyt wrote: I see little gain in changing while Something(f) do F.Somethingelse This is not quite equal, it's more like: Start(f); while not Last(f) do F.DoWork; In your case, the function 'Something' must know about a generic F. There are also recursive state

Re: [fpc-devel] New feature discussion: for-in loop

2009-10-20 Thread Micha Nelissen
Vinzent Höfler wrote: Marc Weustink marc.weust...@cuperus.nl: loop you are not allowed to modify the loop variable. In this case I can imagine its not allowed to modify the list. But how's the compiler supposed to know which method modifies MyList and which one does not? That's why I

Re: [fpc-devel] msgtxt.inc and msgidx.inc

2009-10-19 Thread Micha Nelissen
Florian Klaempfl wrote: I want really fast building and no external tool calling etc., that's why I still use the text mode ide. Not to forget that msg*.inc not the only auto generated files in the compiler sources: there are e.g. autogenerated register tables and instruction tables so this adds

Re: [fpc-devel] Errors using generics - what is wrong?

2009-10-07 Thread Micha Nelissen
Žilvinas Ledas wrote: Thanks, it works with named type. Is using not named specializations is some kind of not implemented yet part? :) No it's a design choice to more easily reuse separate (but equal) specializations. Micha ___ fpc-devel

Re: [fpc-devel] Errors using generics - what is wrong?

2009-10-07 Thread Micha Nelissen
Tomas Hajny wrote: Well, the internal error is in any case a bug, so if this appears also with the latest (trunk) version, a bug report would be useful. I didn't see an internal error? But a more descriptive message would be useful ('specialization not allowed in this context' or so?).

Re: [fpc-devel] embedded arm port

2009-09-15 Thread Micha Nelissen
Michael Schnell wrote: C can do local (Stack?) volatile variables. This does not seem to make much sense. Why not? You could pass a pointer to this stack variable to another thread which could write to it asynchronously to your thread. Micha ___

Re: [fpc-devel] FPC 2.3.1 seems a mixed mess with Unicode support

2009-09-15 Thread Micha Nelissen
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: MyString := '世界您好'; MyChar := MyString[1]; writeln(MyChar); end. Extracting a Char from a UnicodeString? What's that supposed to do? Micha ___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org

Re: [fpc-devel] FPC 2.3.1 seems a mixed mess with Unicode support

2009-09-15 Thread Micha Nelissen
Marco van de Voort wrote: In our previous episode, Micha Nelissen said: Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: MyString := ''; MyChar := MyString[1]; writeln(MyChar); end. Extracting a Char from a UnicodeString? What's that supposed to do? CHAR is a 16-bit wchar in D2009. Simularly, pchar

Re: [fpc-devel] conversion between types?

2009-09-15 Thread Micha Nelissen
Michael Schnell wrote: As FPC (other than Delphi) features a Macro preprocessor, I suppose you can get away without modifying the code. FPC does support macros but not parametrized ones. Micha ___ fpc-devel maillist -

Re: [fpc-devel] conversion between types?

2009-09-15 Thread Micha Nelissen
Michael Schnell wrote: Micha Nelissen wrote: FPC does support macros but not parametrized ones. Any chance to use another preprocessor ? So many choices, eg. sed? Micha ___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org http

Re: [fpc-devel] [PATCH] patch for zipper.pp

2009-07-29 Thread Micha Nelissen
Andrew Haines wrote: procedure tfor...@unzipcustomoutput(Sender: TObject; var AStream: TStream; AItem: TFullZipFileEntry; AClosing: Boolean); begin if AClosing = False then begin AStream := TMemoryStream.Create; end Do you mind if I say I think this is a very weird event

Re: [fpc-devel] [PATCH] patch for zipper.pp

2009-07-29 Thread Micha Nelissen
Michael Van Canneyt wrote: The handler is called 2 times: - Once to create the stream (aclosing=false) - Once when the data has been written to the steam. (AClosing=true) Maybe it had been better to create 2 events: - OnCreateStream - OnDestroyStream (optional, if not set the component frees

[fpc-devel] Assign Self

2009-07-11 Thread Micha Nelissen
Hi, Are we supposed to be able to assign to Self? FPC accepts the attached unit, but seems strange to me to allow this? Micha {$mode objfpc} unit selfass; interface type TTestObj = class procedure TestSelf; end; implementation procedure TTestObj.TestSelf; begin Self := nil; end;

Re: [fpc-devel] Assign Self

2009-07-11 Thread Micha Nelissen
Jonas Maebe wrote: On 11 Jul 2009, at 12:53, Micha Nelissen wrote: Are we supposed to be able to assign to Self? Yes. When would it be used? Micha ___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman

Re: [fpc-devel] Assign Self

2009-07-11 Thread Micha Nelissen
Jonas Maebe wrote: Note that some hits, like the one in cgbase.pas of FPC, refer to the self parameter of objects, not of classes. ... or a local variable or a field in a record ... Only ones I found are TExpression and TContractForm, but those don't win a readability contest, like below one

Re: [fpc-devel] Assign Self

2009-07-11 Thread Micha Nelissen
Micha Nelissen wrote: procedure tcontractform.add; begin self:=tcontractform.create(owner); self.insert.enabled:=true; self.btnregion.enabled:=true; self.showmodal; end; In this case I guess there is even a memory leak in the sense that Owner is usually Application which is a variable

Re: [fpc-devel] lone property

2009-06-23 Thread Micha Nelissen
Marco van de Voort wrote: type myclass = class property doit : integer; end; Does sb know this, and is this a feature? And if so, should delphi mode accept it ? What kind of code does fpc generate when you reference it? :-) I guess you will get a compiler

Re: [fpc-devel] FPC Delphi compatibility question...

2009-06-19 Thread Micha Nelissen
Maxim Egorov wrote: I guess that the behavior of FPC is correct and expectable. I just try your example in Delphi 7, 2007, 2009 and was amazed. They indeed don't assign anything to the array A. This is a Delphi compiler bug. FPC must not copy delphi compiler mistakes. :) Since the return value

Re: [fpc-devel] Compiler hint for uninitialized local variable minor mistake

2009-05-29 Thread Micha Nelissen
Jonas Maebe wrote: It is not possible to change this in the compiler. The reason is that if we change the first parameter of fillchar from a var parameter (as it is now) into an out parameter (so the hint would not be shown), then the behaviour of the code changes. Wasn't outvar a long

Re: [fpc-devel] bugreports

2009-04-29 Thread Micha Nelissen
Bogusław Brandys wrote: Can someone assign those bugreports : http://bugs.freepascal.org/view.php?id=13499 and http://bugs.freepascal.org/view.php?id=13518 to proper person ? You must first request to be added as developer before we can assign the bug to you ;-P. Micha

Re: [fpc-devel] virtual methods and smart-linking?

2009-04-09 Thread Micha Nelissen
martin wrote: for the linker (http://www.freepascal.org/docs-html/user/usersu15.html#x38-450005.1.4) but I have no luck in identifying it... The mail also says that it hasn't been done yet! Micha ___ fpc-devel maillist -

Re: [fpc-devel] Debugger for FPC

2009-03-11 Thread Micha Nelissen
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: Like I said, I am not very knowledgeable with debugger internals, but I am willing to learn and help. Not having decent debugger support is killing me - and I am clearly not alone, as the thread in the Lazarus The problem is not so much the debugging itself. That is

Re: [fpc-devel] Re: Debugger for FPC

2009-03-11 Thread Micha Nelissen
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: And then the same think under Kylix 3. As I said, with Delphi and Kylix such trivial things is a no-brainer. Debugging just works. http://opensoft.homeip.net/~graemeg/kylix_debuging.png Delphi/Kylix also does not have 'absolute', so FPC requires even more features in

Re: [fpc-devel] A note on Mantis issue 13173

2009-03-09 Thread Micha Nelissen
Sergei Gorelkin wrote: So maybe ThreadWndProc function and window creation/destruction code in AddThread and RemoveThread procedures should be removed? I've removed it. Micha ___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org

Re: [fpc-devel] A note on Mantis issue 13173

2009-02-24 Thread Micha Nelissen
Sergei Gorelkin wrote: Looking at the changes to rtl/win/tthread.inc made in r12761, I see that 'thread helper window' is pretty well unused, as CM_EXECPROC message is never posted to it (grepping rtl sources for CM_EXECPROC shows that). TThread.Synchronize is supposed to use it. Micha

Re: [fpc-devel] A note on Mantis issue 13173

2009-02-24 Thread Micha Nelissen
Sergei Gorelkin wrote: TThread.Synchronize is supposed to use it. It probably was so a while ago, but the current implementation uses a platform-independent mechanism (TThread.Synchronize is entirely in rtl/objpas/classes/classes.inc). Oops, didn't I write that? Good catch. Micha

Re: [fpc-devel] Unicode and UTF8String

2008-12-01 Thread Micha Nelissen
Jonas Maebe wrote: There are an immense amount of similar examples possible (and if you add operator overloading in the mix, it increases exponentially), and you'd get a huge amount of can't decide which overloaded function to call errors even if the compiler were hacked to take the use of the

Re: [fpc-devel] Why is FPC so self-contained ?

2008-11-04 Thread Micha Nelissen
Michael Schnell wrote: which system/vendor did you choose? We are going to design some controller boards with Altera Cyclone III FPGAs. The NIOS processor is optimized for this FPGA architecture, is very easily implemented into the HDL design, offers acceptable features How big is the

Re: [fpc-devel] Parallel Computing

2008-11-04 Thread Micha Nelissen
Michael Schnell wrote: I tool a look at the C code of one of the example projects in the ALIOTH test. Here they seemingly used SIMD vector operations via typedef int This has nothing to do with MT or OpenMP though. GCC can vectorize automatically and takes advantage of SSE. Micha

[fpc-devel] GetAppConfigFile

2008-10-04 Thread Micha Nelissen
Hi, Why is there a parameter to GetAppConfigFile? I'd suggest something like: function GetAppConfigFile: string; begin { first look for user specific config file } Result := GetAppConfigFile(false); if FileExists(Result) then exit; { otherwise use global one } Result :=

Re: [fpc-devel] Sdf / Fixed maximum line length flexibilization

2008-09-07 Thread Micha Nelissen
Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote: function StoreToBuf(Source: String): String; virtual; public +MAXSTRLEN: Integer; If you don't object, this is a bit ugly to my taste. Why not 'FMaxStrLen', and have a property MaxStrLen: read FMaxStrLen ? Looks better to me. Micha

Re: [fpc-devel] an observation about GetMem

2008-09-05 Thread Micha Nelissen
Peter Popov wrote: Well, if it points to something, then there is space, isn't it? Unless it is clearly mentioned in the documentation that GetMem(p,0) results in You get a pointer to some place where you may store 0 bytes, so nothing :-). This can be useful because otherwise you may think

Re: [fpc-devel] an observation about GetMem

2008-09-04 Thread Micha Nelissen
Peter Popov wrote: size is 0 (realloc does). On the other hand, assigning something is a bad idea too, as it suggests at least Size(pointer) amount of storage, unless that memory spot is somehow marked as empty, etc. How does it suggest a storage space with size 0 ? Micha

Re: [fpc-devel] generated assembler

2008-09-03 Thread Micha Nelissen
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: Hi, I know it's possible, but I can't remember the exact FPC parameters. How do I see the assembler generated by FPC for my source code? Read ppc386 -h. Micha ___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org

Re: [fpc-devel] TAVLTree(avl_tree.pp) thread safety : second proposition

2008-08-08 Thread Micha Nelissen
Marco van de Voort wrote: Inoussa OUEDRAOGO wrote: - TAVLManagedTree that uses a node mem manager provided in the constructor. The developer using this one is _aware_ of the thread safety issue and can then provide a thread safe node mem manager for an instance exposed What is exactly

Re: [fpc-devel] TAVLTree(avl_tree.pp) thread safety, fcl-xml(DOM) is also concerned.

2008-08-07 Thread Micha Nelissen
Inoussa OUEDRAOGO wrote: 2008/8/6 Micha Nelissen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Perhaps another option is to remove the NodeMemManager altogether and simply use GetMem/FreeMem (or New/Dispose)? The second proposition contains a default TAVLTree that remove the node mem manager and TAVLManagedTree

Re: [fpc-devel] Russian locale information not compatible withFPClocale variables

2008-07-31 Thread Micha Nelissen
Daniël Mantione wrote: Easier said than done, because threading always involves multiple cores operating in the same address space, which means the cores need to communicate which core has which page in cache. They don't care about pages. They only care when writing to shared memory (to keep

Re: Multi threading support was Re: [fpc-devel] Russian locale information not compatible withFPClocale variables

2008-07-31 Thread Micha Nelissen
Florian Klaempfl wrote: Michael Schnell schrieb: Now you suggest that all procedures an instance of this kind of class are protected and thus thread-safe by definition. They aren't but it makes things easier. Just look at the linux kernel: it's smp support started also with BKL: the Big

Re: synchronous class [Re: Multi threading support was Re: [fpc-devel] Russian locale information not compatible withFPClocale variables]

2008-07-31 Thread Micha Nelissen
Martin Friebe wrote: IMHO per class may create some problems? but maybe I am just overlooking something? TBar =class( TFoo ) end synchronized class; Let's say TFoo was declared in another unit, and TFoo was not declared Synchronized. Then TFoo code can be entered by anyone at any time. Even

Re: [fpc-devel] Russian locale information not compatible withFPClocale variables

2008-07-30 Thread Micha Nelissen
Boian Mitov wrote: among the processor architects. Intel already demonstrated 100+ core processor last year. This year we expect the first 16 core processors to hit the market ( 8 HT cores), and the direction is very clear. Any compiler vendor, or developer, should at least be paying attention

Re: [fpc-devel] Russian locale information not compatible with FPC locale variables

2008-07-29 Thread Micha Nelissen
Daniël Mantione wrote: is no proper solution, MBCS requires it to be a string rather than a char, but compatibility requires it to be a char. Which means you are Isn't a string backward compatible with a Char? Micha ___ fpc-devel maillist -

Re: [fpc-devel] Russian locale information not compatible with FPC locale variables

2008-07-29 Thread Micha Nelissen
Marco van de Voort wrote: Dani?l Mantione wrote: is no proper solution, MBCS requires it to be a string rather than a char, but compatibility requires it to be a char. Which means you are Isn't a string backward compatible with a Char? No. You can't typecast or ORD() it anymore, or

Re: [fpc-devel] Russian locale information not compatible with FPC locale variables

2008-07-29 Thread Micha Nelissen
Bee wrote: I don't understand why FPC has DELPHI MODE directive in the first place if FPC don't want to be different with Delphi. Maybe FPC should eliminate this directive and make it as the default mode. :-P This is exactly the reason. Strings and API touches everything, while generics are

Re: [fpc-devel] C style operator doesn't work with properties in 2.3.1

2008-07-17 Thread Micha Nelissen
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: Simple one liners like the following: inc(FDayList[itm.WeekDayNum].Rows[itm.Timeslot].AvailableSlots, itm.CountSlots); or FDayList[itm.WeekDayNum].Rows[itm.Timeslot].AvailableSlots += itm.CountSlots; now has to change to this ugly line...

Re: [fpc-devel] C style operator doesn't work with properties in 2.3.1

2008-07-17 Thread Micha Nelissen
Jonas Maebe wrote: Indeed. I've checked the code and properties are explicitly not allowed for the C-style operators. The reason is that the x+=y is translated into x:=x+y at the parser level rather than at the lexical level. This So I guess the obvious question is: would it be risky to

Re: [fpc-devel] C style operator doesn't work with properties in 2.3.1

2008-07-17 Thread Micha Nelissen
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: My question too Would somebody be so kind as to explain the difference to me? As I mentioned before, I'm not a compiler developer. Very rudimentary: source --lexer-- tokens --parser-- tree --code gen-- code - source is the .pas file etc. - tokens are things

Re: [fpc-devel] Illegal type conversion: enumeration type to TObject

2008-07-17 Thread Micha Nelissen
Sean McIlwain wrote: initialization AObject := TObject(AValue); Could this be supported in the Delphi mode as well? Forgot to take your pills today? ;) Micha ___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org

Re: [fpc-devel] Incompatible Types: got untyped expected procedure variable type of procedure(Pointer);Register

2008-07-17 Thread Micha Nelissen
Craig Peterson wrote: Use mode objfpc and CallBack:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Is there some reason why this can't be handled automatically in Delphi mode? In the example (and every case where it's an issue in our code), the callback is a procedure and doesn't return anything, so Callback := Proc

Re: [fpc-devel] Incompatible Types: got untyped expected procedure variable type of procedure(Pointer);Register

2008-07-17 Thread Micha Nelissen
Craig Peterson wrote: Micha Nelissen wrote: Ambiguity depends on whether it takes parameters or not. Return value would be context sensitive. One doesn't want a context sensitive language. The code presented is perfectly valid in Delphi, so it apparently *is* a context sensitive language

Re: [fpc-devel] Illegal type conversion: enumeration type to TObject

2008-07-17 Thread Micha Nelissen
Michael Van Canneyt wrote: AObject := TObject(AValue); Could this be supported in the Delphi mode as well? Please submit a bug report. Eh ? As far as I'm concerned this should not compile in Objfpc mode as well ? It's a typecast, so then almost anything is allowed, except perhaps if the

Re: [fpc-devel] The usage of Include() doesn't work any more in 2.3.1

2008-07-16 Thread Micha Nelissen
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: WindowAttributes are defined as follows: ... property WindowAttributes: TWindowAttributes read FWindowAttributes write FWindowAttributes; ... It's the same thing as mentioned before, FPC now guarantees you can change that into GetWindowAttributes function. If this

Re: [fpc-devel] ExtractFileDrive is broken under Linux

2008-05-21 Thread Micha Nelissen
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: :/tmp$ ls -l drwxr-xr-x 3 graemeg graemeg 4096 2008-05-21 11:43 app -rw-r--r-- 1 graemeg graemeg0 2008-05-21 13:14 c:\myfile.txt -rw-r--r-- 1 graemeg graemeg0 2008-05-21 13:12 c:myfile.txt -rw--- 1 graemeg graemeg 607 2008-05-21 11:48 code-1.pp -rw--- 1

Re: [fpc-devel] New Language Features in Oxygene 3.0

2008-04-24 Thread Micha Nelissen
Michael Schnell wrote: Parallel Programming: have multiple-CPU systems run code automatically in multiple threads This one could be interesting. What does it provide, how does it work? Does it scale well? Etc. Nullable Expressions: Calculations automatically handle a missing value

Re: [fpc-devel] MSEide+MSEgui binary package

2008-04-16 Thread Micha Nelissen
Marco van de Voort wrote: You are right, after moving all exernal name declarations to interface I could move back uses msesysintf to implementation in msefileutils and the project compiled. Maybe we should have a known issues entry for this? Perhaps but isn't it quite logical one should

Re: [fpc-devel] MSEide+MSEgui binary package

2008-04-16 Thread Micha Nelissen
Tomas Hajny wrote: On Wed, April 16, 2008 10:38, Micha Nelissen wrote: Perhaps but isn't it quite logical one should put these in the interface part? How the hell is the compiler otherwise going to know the right name when only parsing the interface? Well, this statement assumes that all

Re: [fpc-devel] MSEide+MSEgui binary package

2008-04-15 Thread Micha Nelissen
Martin Schreiber wrote: Recompiling msesysintf, checksum changed for msefileutils {impl} Fatal: Can't find unit msesysintf used by msesysutils Fatal: Compilation aborted What do we wrong, any hints? Do you have multiple installed msefileutils? Recompile with -va to see what's going on.

Re: [fpc-devel] sysstr patch

2008-04-04 Thread Micha Nelissen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: @@ -335,11 +336,12 @@ Result:=1; exit; end; - Repeat + While (Result=0) and (S1^#0) and (S2^#0) do You only have to check one of S1 or S2 being unequal to zero. (Otherwise they would be different anyway). Micha

Re: [fpc-devel] Bug in trunk?

2008-03-28 Thread Micha Nelissen
Michael Van Canneyt wrote: FYI: so before streaming, the streamer has to reset the values to their defaults to stream properly. Unfortenately, there is no function to do this, and it's usually done in constructor. Therefore streaming twice does not work properly. This is not correct. The

Re: [fpc-devel] Bug in trunk?

2008-03-28 Thread Micha Nelissen
Michael Van Canneyt wrote: If you want a general streaming mechanism (javabeans like), then you simply should not use stored or default, then you'll have something that comes close. Oh come on! It's not *that* far from a general streaming mechanism; so I consider this a design flaw. Micha

Re: [fpc-devel] Bug in trunk?

2008-03-28 Thread Micha Nelissen
Michael Van Canneyt wrote: Oh come on! It's not *that* far from a general streaming mechanism; so I consider this a design flaw. IMHO, it's very far, see Mattias' remarks :( Hmm well the other fun thing was that in Delphi you could not have no default for floats or integers IIRC. Maybe this

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