Re: [fpc-devel] passing options for the build process.

2012-03-21 Thread peter green

Jonas Maebe wrote:

The compiler should find the crt*.o files on its own, especially if you create 
a special compiler binary for the hard float ABI (there is no point in creating 
a special binary if you still need to separately specify a bunch of additional 
options to get the correct behaviour). Or are they in distribution-specific 
directories for the hard float ABI?

debian/ubuntu are introducing (ubuntu have had support for a while, debian have 
been a bit slower on the uptake) something called multiarch. The idea of 
multiarch is that one system will be able to have packages from a mix* of 
architectures installed at the same time. This is not something specific to 
armhf (though armhf does of course have a multiarch triplet).


As a result of this many libraries (including crt*.o)  are now located 
in /usr/lib/ (or lib/). See 
debian bug http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=636802 for 
previous discussion of this. Debian currently handles this through an 
entry in the default config file (though the entry they are using right 
now is likelt to be problematic on a multiarch system with both armel 
and armhf since it will match the lib directories for both).


A key thing about the way multiarch works is that libraries that are 
packaged to support multiarch will be located in multiarch directories 
even if the system they are installed on only has packages from one 
architecture installed.


Multiarch is a debian/ubuntu creation. I believe someone is attempting 
to push support to upstream gcc. I'm not aware of any distros outside 
the debian family that are currently using it,


I am quite happy to prepare a patch that adds the multiarch locations 
for each architecture to the hardcoded default search paths if you 
believe that is an appropriate thing to do.


* A multiarch triplet represents an ABI. They are based on GNU triplets 
but not nessacerally identical to them because sometimes one GNU triplet 
can convert multiple ABIs and sometimes there can be more than one GNU 
triplet in use for the same ABI. http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/Tuples
** in practice most multiatch systems will probally be combinations like 
i386/amd64 or ppc/ppc64 or maybe armel/armhf but in principle any 
combination is possible as long as you can find a way (e.g. binfmt-misc 
with qemu) to make the biniaries run


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Re: [fpc-devel] passing options for the build process.

2012-03-21 Thread Jonas Maebe

On 20 Mar 2012, at 23:42, peter green wrote:

> The buildfaq claims that OPT= will add parameters to every compiler 
> commandline. Unfortunately it doesn't seem to actually do that. The options 
> are added when building the compiler and RTL but it seems they aren't added 
> when building fpmake.
> 
> This is a problem for me as to successfully build fpmake on a multiarch arm 
> system I need to tell it where to find crti.o (it seems freepascal can 
> successfully build stuff linked against c libraries without finding crti.o on 
> some architectures but not others).

The compiler should find the crt*.o files on its own, especially if you create 
a special compiler binary for the hard float ABI (there is no point in creating 
a special binary if you still need to separately specify a bunch of additional 
options to get the correct behaviour). Or are they in distribution-specific 
directories for the hard float ABI?


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Re: [fpc-devel] passing options for the build process.

2012-03-21 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, peter green said:
> The buildfaq claims that OPT= will add parameters to every compiler 
> commandline. Unfortunately it doesn't seem to actually do that. The 
> options are added when building the compiler and RTL but it seems they 
> aren't added when building fpmake.
> 
> This is a problem for me as to successfully build fpmake on a multiarch 
> arm system I need to tell it where to find crti.o (it seems freepascal 
> can successfully build stuff linked against c libraries without finding 
> crti.o on some architectures but not others).
> 
> For now i've created a symlink at /usr/lib/crti.o to 
> /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/crti.o to make things work but i'd rather 
> not have to mess with my system in that way. Is there some way of 
> specifying options so that they actually get passed to ALL compiler 
> invocations in the build process?

Sounds like a fpmake bug. Please file a bugreport if you haven't done so.
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Re: [fpc-devel] passing options for the build process.

2012-03-21 Thread Henry Vermaak
On 20 March 2012 22:42, peter green  wrote:
> The buildfaq claims that OPT= will add parameters to every compiler
> commandline. Unfortunately it doesn't seem to actually do that. The options
> are added when building the compiler and RTL but it seems they aren't added
> when building fpmake.
>
> This is a problem for me as to successfully build fpmake on a multiarch arm
> system I need to tell it where to find crti.o (it seems freepascal can
> successfully build stuff linked against c libraries without finding crti.o
> on some architectures but not others).
>
> For now i've created a symlink at /usr/lib/crti.o to
> /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/crti.o to make things work but i'd rather not
> have to mess with my system in that way. Is there some way of specifying
> options so that they actually get passed to ALL compiler invocations in the
> build process?

I had to fiddle around like this, too, unfortunately.  Does the
compiler read fpc.cfg when it's building?  It may work when adding it
there.  Reading /etc/ld.so.conf needs to be fixed, too.  At the moment
the Makefile adds the contents to -Fl, which doesn't work when there
are wildcards.

Henry
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[fpc-devel] passing options for the build process.

2012-03-20 Thread peter green
The buildfaq claims that OPT= will add parameters to every compiler 
commandline. Unfortunately it doesn't seem to actually do that. The 
options are added when building the compiler and RTL but it seems they 
aren't added when building fpmake.


This is a problem for me as to successfully build fpmake on a multiarch 
arm system I need to tell it where to find crti.o (it seems freepascal 
can successfully build stuff linked against c libraries without finding 
crti.o on some architectures but not others).


For now i've created a symlink at /usr/lib/crti.o to 
/usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/crti.o to make things work but i'd rather 
not have to mess with my system in that way. Is there some way of 
specifying options so that they actually get passed to ALL compiler 
invocations in the build process?

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