On 02/26/2010 04:10 PM, Mattias Gaertner wrote:
'
There are several tools in Lazarus for this:
- click compile, fpc will give identifier not found, right click on
the message - popup menu - search identifier. This will search all
units. On first time it may take a minute to scan
the
On 02/26/2010 10:21 AM, Mattias Gaertner wrote:
PostMessage is threadsafe, dispatch is not.
Not only thread-save, but thread traversing, which is the proper
function of the message delivering library service.
Seemingly the function names are wisely chose (regarding the work of a
parcel
Hi,
All these are very interesting options I was not aware of, but
unfortunately no search for identifiers.
You must first select the error saying identifier not found and then right
click on it.
I tested it with some broken code and it gave no feedback at all. I think it
should always give
On Mon, 01 Mar 2010 10:14:50 +0100
Michael Schnell mschn...@lumino.de wrote:
On 02/26/2010 04:10 PM, Mattias Gaertner wrote:
'
There are several tools in Lazarus for this:
- click compile, fpc will give identifier not found, right click on
the message - popup menu - search identifier.
On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 11:43:23 +0200
Juha Manninen juha.manni...@phnet.fi wrote:
Hi,
All these are very interesting options I was not aware of, but
unfortunately no search for identifiers.
You must first select the error saying identifier not found and then right
click on it.
I tested
Hi,
What gave no feedback?
Ok, I tested again with a non-typical situation.
I worked with lazarus.lpi and built Lazarus from tools - Configure Build
Lazarus. The error messages show up just like when compiling a normal
project but search identifier does nothing.
Now I tested with a normal
On 03/01/2010 10:43 AM, Juha Manninen wrote:
You must first select the error saying identifier not found and then right
click on it.
I only can select a complete line in the message window.
-Michael
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Zitat von Juha Manninen juha.manni...@phnet.fi:
Hi,
What gave no feedback?
Ok, I tested again with a non-typical situation.
I worked with lazarus.lpi and built Lazarus from tools - Configure Build
Lazarus. The error messages show up just like when compiling a normal
project but search
Zitat von Michael Schnell mschn...@lumino.de:
On 03/01/2010 10:36 AM, Mattias Gaertner wrote:
You need lazarus 0.9.29.
I might try to get this running some day soon
Try that on PostMessage.
I get a method in unit InterfaceBase and a procedure in unit LCLIntf.
Obviously you want
On 02/25/2010 06:59 PM, Mattias Gärtner wrote:
Maybe if you provide a more complete example, some Linux users can
help you.
Sorry, but an example how procedure ... message can be used in Linux
is what I am requesting.
A working example in Windows is trivial. Here it works exactly as in
Delphi
On 02/25/2010 07:47 PM, David W Noon wrote:
for a couple of years. Provided you are using Lazarus classes, it
works just like Windows: the PostMessage() and SendMessage() functions
in the LCLIntf unit provide closely analogous functionality to their
Win32 API namesakes. [In all the
OK, Thisa does take me one step further.
1) procedure...message does wok in Linux
2) it can be triggered by Dispatch.
This is good news, as FPC/Lazarus is confirmed to work as expected. :)
This is bad news as now I need to consider procedure...message when
doing the NoGUIApplication package. ;)
Michael Schnell wrote:
1) procedure...message does wok in Linux
2) it can be triggered by Dispatch.
And this is what I have been telling you since the start! :-)
Regards,
- Graeme -
--
fpGUI Toolkit - a cross-platform GUI toolkit using Free Pascal
http://opensoft.homeip.net/fpgui/
On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 09:41:15 +0100
Michael Schnell mschn...@lumino.de wrote:
On 02/25/2010 07:47 PM, David W Noon wrote:
for a couple of years. Provided you are using Lazarus classes, it
works just like Windows: the PostMessage() and SendMessage() functions
in the LCLIntf unit provide
On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 09:53:44 +0100
Michael Schnell mschn...@lumino.de wrote:
OK, Thisa does take me one step further.
1) procedure...message does wok in Linux
2) it can be triggered by Dispatch.
This is good news, as FPC/Lazarus is confirmed to work as expected. :)
This is bad news as
On 02/26/2010 10:03 AM, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
Michael Schnell wrote:
1) procedure...message does wok in Linux
2) it can be triggered by Dispatch.
And this is what I have been telling you since the start! :-)
I did not see the relevance, as I did not suppose that Dispatch is
On 02/26/2010 10:21 AM, Mattias Gaertner wrote:
PostMessage is threadsafe, dispatch is not.
This is what I did suppose.
Now I need to find out how to call PostMessage (as uses Classes does
not make it visible).
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On 02/26/2010 10:19 AM, Mattias Gaertner wrote:
SendMessage is defined in unit LCLIntf and implemented in the
LCL interfaces.
Great ! This is the info I needed.
with uses LCLIntf it gets compiled.
Thanks,
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On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 10:46:09 +0100
Michael Schnell mschn...@lumino.de wrote:
On 02/26/2010 10:19 AM, Mattias Gaertner wrote:
SendMessage is defined in unit LCLIntf and implemented in the
LCL interfaces.
Great ! This is the info I needed.
with uses LCLIntf it gets compiled.
Zitat von Michael Schnell mschn...@lumino.de:
Can't anyone answer the question if in Linux the legal and compilable
construct
procedure... message;
either
is not supposed to be working
or
how I can have such a procedure be executed (e.g. by posting a message
from a thread or another
25.02.2010 19:59, Michael Schnell:
Can't anyone answer the question if in Linux the legal and compilable
construct
procedure... message;
either
is not supposed to be working
Is is working fine on linux, see my example below.
or
how I can have such a procedure be executed (e.g. by posting
So about a week ago I setup a .htaccess in the
opensoft.homeip.net root website to block some of those domains.
Is your domain listed in any of these?
---
# Deny hosts or spam domains
RewriteCond %{REMOTE_HOST} sputnikmedia.net [NC,OR]
RewriteCond %{REMOTE_HOST}
P.S.:
I found out that homeip,net is banned here in the company's network, as
in the past, there have been some frauds using this.
-Michael
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On 02/18/2010 10:16 PM, Nikolai Zhubr wrote:
... if you are going to make this messaging work to some degree in
non-main thread on windows, you'll probably need to take care of some
things manually.
Of course you are right that the Delphi / Windows paradigm only allows
for a single message
I suppose it's a glitch of our office's ID.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
Thanks,
-Michael
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On 02/18/2010 10:26 PM, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
Just thought of something else. Not sure if this is a solution,
Thanks a lot for your support, but in fact I am not seeking for a
solution, but the question is if the compilable FPC construct procedure
... message works at all in (Lazarus /)
Michael Schnell wrote:
On 02/18/2010 05:35 PM, Michael Schnell wrote:
I'll try at home
It works at home, No idea why it is blocked here. Is this a kind of
spam-prone server ?
In this last month I was bombarded with web crawlers even though I have a
robots.txt file setup. So about a
I hope I understand your question correctly...
Michael Schnell wrote:
What messages does it capture ?
Anything that fits into 'var message' parameter. fpGUI uses the following
base structure for the event queue.
TfpgMessageRec = record
MsgCode: integer;
Sender: TObject;
Dest:
On 02/17/2010 05:46 PM, Marco van de Voort wrote:
Afaik it is nothing more than a table that says for msg with value xxx call
method yyy. IOW it is abstract.
In Windows obviously an msg is a Windows message. But what is a msg
in Linux ?
-Michael
Thanks for your valuable hints !
On 02/18/2010 09:21 AM, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
You can obviously use other custom communications methods too.
Of course I do know this, my current goal is to explore if/how I need to
support procedure...message with the upcoming NoGUIApplication package.
On 02/18/2010 09:21 AM, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
How to send a message from another process ?
On example would be to use IPC as defined in the SimpleIPC unit - part of
FCL. SimpleIPC documentation can be found at:
http://www.freepascal.org/docs-html/fcl/simpleipc/index.html
On 02/18/2010 09:21 AM, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
fpGUI has an internal event queue which later gets dispatched to the target
using TObject.Dispatch(). fpGUI v0.4 and earlier used a Object based even
system and had it's own distribution functions. Later version of fpGUI uses
Record based
Michael Schnell wrote:
Yep. Here you need to do a server and a client and it does not seem to
use procedure message. But In Delphi/Windows you don't need to
create a server. Just using procedure message is enough o receive
a message from another process.
Things are more complicated
On 18 Feb 2010, at 14:41, Michael Schnell wrote:
Lazarus does have a directory /lazarus/lcl/interfaces/fpgui/ but it
does
not contain a file fpg_main.* and fpgPostMessage is not mentioned in
any
file :(.
http://www.google.com/search?q=fpgui
Jonas
On 02/18/2010 02:48 PM, Sergei Gorelkin wrote:If this is possible with
FPC/Linux, I
should make sure that it's still possible with the NoGUIApplication
package.
Windows has a built-in transport for the messages, Linux doesn't. Of
course there
are libraries providing similar or even better
On 02/18/2010 02:49 PM, Jonas Maebe wrote:
http://www.google.com/search?q=fpgui
Of course I did try this, but the project seems to be abandoned:
http://opensoft.homeip.net/fpgui/
ERROR
The requested URL could not be retrieved
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On 18 Feb 2010, at 16:44, Michael Schnell wrote:
Of course I did try this, but the project seems to be abandoned:
http://opensoft.homeip.net/fpgui/
ERROR
The requested URL could not be retrieved
It works fine here.
Jonas
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Michael Schnell wrote:
On 02/18/2010 02:48 PM, Sergei Gorelkin wrote:If this is possible with
FPC/Linux, I
should make sure that it's still possible with the NoGUIApplication
package.
Windows has a built-in transport for the messages, Linux doesn't. Of
course there
are libraries providing
On 02/18/2010 05:12 PM, Marc Weustink wrote:
Nope. On non windows widgetrsets, lazarus implements its own
messagequeue which is handled in application.Idle.
I'll try to find out how this works(and how things like Timer and
the waiting for events are done). Maybe it's an alternative to use
On 02/18/2010 04:50 PM, Jonas Maebe wrote:
On 18 Feb 2010, at 16:44, Michael Schnell wrote:
Of course I did try this, but the project seems to be abandoned:
http://opensoft.homeip.net/fpgui/
ERROR
The requested URL could not be retrieved
It works fine here.
I'll try at home
On 18 February 2010 15:41, Michael Schnell mschn...@** wrote:
my fpc sources don't have any fpg* files other than fpglibc* and fpgtk*.
Lazarus does have a directory /lazarus/lcl/interfaces/fpgui/ but it does
not contain a file fpg_main.* and fpgPostMessage is not mentioned in any
file
18.02.2010 16:16, Michael Schnell:
[trim]
use procedure message. But In Delphi/Windows you don't need to
create a server. Just using procedure message is enough o receive
a message from another process.
No. AFAIK even in Delphi, message procedures for non-components are
pretty much
On 17 February 2010 16:47, Michael Schnell mschn...@lumino.de wrote:
What messages does it capture ?
How to send a message from a thread ?
Just thought of something else. Not sure if this is a solution, but it
might head you in the right direction. Have a look at two behavioural
design
In our previous episode, Michael Schnell said:
How to send a message from a thread ?
How to send a message from another process ?
I do know that there are other (supposedly more decent) ways to do
inter-thread and inter-process communication, But as
procedure...message(), does compile in
peter green wrote:
What does the compiler do when translating procedure ... message ?
I need to know this as I want to create a non-GUI workalike of the
TApplication class that can do things like TTimer
TThread.Synchronize, Message events, etc, using Windows messages in
Windows (for testing
Michael Schnell schreef:
peter green wrote:
What does the compiler do when translating procedure ... message ?
I need to know this as I want to create a non-GUI workalike of the
TApplication class that can do things like TTimer
TThread.Synchronize, Message events, etc, using Windows messages
That is the result of what is happening. Most of it is done by the
library (the compiler can't do this by itself), and I am trying to use some
home-brew library functions here.
What I wanted to know is how the compiler does this (or how I can
find out what exactly it
I see you are still a bit lost. Maybe the documentation can help:
http://www.freepascal.org/docs-html/ref/refsu24.html
I in fact am lost (as I still don't dare to try to look into the
compiler's source code).
Unfortunately the docs text does not say what code the compiler
generates to make
What happens is that the compiler creates
an try in the message table of the RTTI for the class. Check out the
implementation of Tobject.Dispatch to see how that is used.
Thanks. That seems to give me a clue. I have no idea what creates a
try means but maybe I'll find out.
Thanks again,
Michael Schnell schreef:
I see you are still a bit lost. Maybe the documentation can help:
http://www.freepascal.org/docs-html/ref/refsu24.html
I in fact am lost (as I still don't dare to try to look into the
compiler's source code).
Unfortunately the docs text does not say what code the
See implementation of dispatch. It gets the message number and looks
for the corresponding method in a table. The compiler generates this
table at compile time.
Thanks. I did try to find it but am lost up till now. regarding
Thorsten's message I assume it is a member function to some class
Michael Schnell wrote:
What happens is that the compiler creates
an try in the message table of the RTTI for the class. Check out the
implementation of Tobject.Dispatch to see how that is used.
Thanks. That seems to give me a clue. I have no idea what creates a
try means but maybe I'll
Thorsten Engler wrote:
Thanks. That seems to give me a clue. I have no idea what
creates a try means but maybe I'll find out.
Should have been an entry
Sorry for not guessing this :-\ .
Now I need to find out what exactly it puts into the RTTI and how to
extract it from there.
Also I
creates an entry most probably.
Right. Thanks.
-Michael (not a native speaker :-( )
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Thanks. I did try to find it but am lost up till now. regarding
Thorsten's message I assume it is a member function to some class
(e.g. TObject), but my usual means to find such functions don't show
it to me.
Sorry.
Found it !
Thanks again.
-Michael
Somewhere user code must call
MyObject.Dispatch(MyMessage);
This looks as if this might be good news. The dispatch mechanism seems
to be completely platform independent and so it seems I just need to
fire the normal (obviously hierarchical) dispatch mechanism when a
message arrives.
What does the compiler do when translating procedure ... message ?
I need to know this as I want to create a non-GUI workalike of the
TApplication class that can do things like TTimer
TThread.Synchronize, Message events, etc, using Windows messages in
Windows (for testing purpose) and
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