Re: [fpc-other] Re: fpc-other Digest, Vol 10, Issue 3

2007-10-31 Thread Marco van de Voort
> > No. The trouble of crosscompiling to *nix doesn't lie in ELF, but in the way > > of shared linking that requires (in the current form) libraries on the host. > Yes, but the bottom line is: > > -it is easier to create an ELF on a unix like system. Because? The base problem of having to have l

[fpc-other] Re: fpc-other Digest, Vol 10, Issue 3

2007-10-31 Thread L
> No. The trouble of crosscompiling to *nix doesn't lie in ELF, but in the way > of shared linking that requires (in the current form) libraries on the host. > Yes, but the bottom line is: -it is easier to create an ELF on a unix like system. Creating the elf includes linking the elf. So essent

Re: [fpc-other] Re: fpc-other Digest, Vol 10, Issue 3

2007-10-31 Thread Marco van de Voort
> > Cross compiling on a Mac is no more difficult than cross-compiling on > > BSD or Linux. The only thing to keep in mind is that if you need to > > generate i386 programs, the host compiler has to be an i386 binary as > > well currently. > > Which Mac compilers/computers not capable of producing

[fpc-other] Re: fpc-other Digest, Vol 10, Issue 3

2007-10-31 Thread L
> Cross compiling on a Mac is no more difficult than cross-compiling on > BSD or Linux. The only thing to keep in mind is that if you need to > generate i386 programs, the host compiler has to be an i386 binary as > well currently. Which Mac compilers/computers not capable of producing i386? Take

Re: [fpc-other] Re: [fpc-pascal] Speed

2007-10-31 Thread Vinzent Höfler
L wrote: I assumed that airplanes did not use GNU and that they used some other Ada compiler designed for performance and reliability. Well, AdaCore's compiler is not exactly GNU, although basically they maintain the code base for a couple of years now. ;) I assume that airplanes require m

Re: [fpc-other] Re: [fpc-pascal] Speed

2007-10-31 Thread Vinzent Höfler
L wrote: Is the GNU ada compiler certified? Not officially, no, but AFAIR it should at least pass the ACATS test suite, otherwise it wouldn't be allowed to be called an Ada compiler. ;) But certification, especially in the avionics business, is a different matter anyway, because it always

[fpc-other] Re: [fpc-pascal] Speed

2007-10-31 Thread L
> > For example, what do Airplanes use? GNU? > Ada compilers must be certified, so if you are developing software for > avionics *you have* to write your software with a compiler certified for > avionics development. > JK Interesting.. Is the GNU ada compiler certified? L505 ___

[fpc-other] Re: [fpc-pascal] Speed

2007-10-31 Thread L
> >> I hear the Intel C compilers and Fortran compilers and Ada compilers are > >> better > >> optimized for certain things since FPC/delphi are generally desinged for > >> GUI > >> programming. ;-) > > > > C/Fortran yes, Ada no; there exists no Intel Ada compiler. > > False. There's no speed penal