Re: [fpc-other] OS/2 support and text colors

2017-07-20 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys

On 2017-07-20 12:46, Tomas Hajny wrote:

However, I'd like to remind you that standard OS/2 dialogues may
be modified using the Font Palette, Color Palette, etc., using drag and
drop


And and awesome feature it is - which I used frequently when still used 
OS/2. The drag-n-drop ability of most (if not all) OS/2 applications 
were just awesome! No other OS came close.


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Re: [fpc-other] OS/2 support and text colors

2017-07-20 Thread wkitty42

On 07/20/2017 07:46 AM, Tomas Hajny wrote:

However, I'd like to remind you that standard OS/2 dialogues may be modified
using the Font Palette, Color Palette, etc., using drag and drop, and thus
this pattern may change easily - that part may be actually more important
than the default setup if you intend to provide OS/2 native behaviour to your
fpGUI port.


i'd like to re-enforce this statement about the colorings... on all our OS/2 
systems, one of the first things we do is to change the color text of "original" 
icons to RED so that they stand out and it is patently signaled that removing 
this one means trouble to recreate it if needed in the future... "clones" of 
icons have their text GREEN so signal that they can be removed if desired and 
that they can easily be "re-cloned" in the future if needed... that's probably 
the main coloration changes we make... aside from that, users can set whatever 
they desire, for the most part...



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Re: [fpc-other] OS/2 support and text colors

2017-07-20 Thread Tomas Hajny
On Thu, July 20, 2017 12:00, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:


Hi Graeme,

> Not strictly FPC related, but I know here are some OS/2 software
> developers around - and I have no idea where else to ask.
>
> I'm working on supporting OS/2 in fpGUI Toolkit and creating OS/2
> themes.  Looking at some of the OS/2 screenshots I have collected, I
> noticed that in the same dialog you sometimes have blue text and
> sometimes black text. Anybody know why, and what is the difference
> between the two (other than the color alone)?
>
> Here is an example:
>
>http://geldenhuys.co.uk/~graemeg/os2_screenshot.png
>
>
> The only pattern I can see is that "static text" (eg: labels and
> groupbox captions) use the blue text, but Checkboxes, Buttons, Menu
> Items etc use the black text. I still don't understand IBM's reasoning
> behind this though - but would like to know out of curiosity.

I'm on holiday at the moment and thus nowhere close to my OS/2 machine (or
any other PC, in fact). Moreover, I haven't studied the IBM GUI
recommendations, nor analyzed the implementation from this point of view.
Your observation looks correct to me (descriptions in blue and values in
black). However, I'd like to remind you that standard OS/2 dialogues may
be modified using the Font Palette, Color Palette, etc., using drag and
drop, and thus this pattern may change easily - that part may be actually
more important than the default setup if you intend to provide OS/2 native
behaviour to your fpGUI port.

Tomas



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[fpc-other] OS/2 support and text colors

2017-07-20 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys

Hi,

Not strictly FPC related, but I know here are some OS/2 software 
developers around - and I have no idea where else to ask.


I'm working on supporting OS/2 in fpGUI Toolkit and creating OS/2 
themes.  Looking at some of the OS/2 screenshots I have collected, I 
noticed that in the same dialog you sometimes have blue text and 
sometimes black text. Anybody know why, and what is the difference 
between the two (other than the color alone)?


Here is an example:

  http://geldenhuys.co.uk/~graemeg/os2_screenshot.png


The only pattern I can see is that "static text" (eg: labels and 
groupbox captions) use the blue text, but Checkboxes, Buttons, Menu 
Items etc use the black text. I still don't understand IBM's reasoning 
behind this though - but would like to know out of curiosity.


Regards,
  Graeme

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