Re: [fpc-other] [fpc-pascal] Google Code closing down

2015-03-16 Thread Martin Frb
On 16/03/2015 14:18, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: Hello Martin, On 2015-03-16 13:17, Martin Frb wrote: Local commits (commit, without push) can be a huge advantage. Ah yes, but they loved the idea shortly afterwards. As I said they *can* be a huge advantage. svn up is roughly equal to:

Re: [fpc-other] [fpc-pascal] Google Code closing down

2015-03-16 Thread Nikolay Nikolov
On 16.3.2015 г. 14:24, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: I can also add that SubVersion has *no* concept of Tags. To SubVersion there is no difference between a Tag and a Branch. Why do I say that? Simply because you can create a Tag in the repository, and then start adding commits to it just mind

Re: [fpc-other] [fpc-pascal] Google Code closing down

2015-03-16 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Hello Martin, On 2015-03-16 13:17, Martin Frb wrote: Local commits (commit, without push) can be a huge advantage. Ah yes, but they loved the idea shortly afterwards. Then weeks later when I mentioned the rebase command to neaten up local commits before you make it public - that was another

Re: [fpc-other] [fpc-pascal] Google Code closing down

2015-03-16 Thread Nikolay Nikolov
On 03/16/2015 11:34 AM, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: But again, use whatever fits you best. I did deep evaluations of many systems, then made my choice. So far, I'm very happy with my choice and outcome. Yes, we *know*. You have made us well aware of this fact. :) Nikolay

Re: [fpc-other] [fpc-pascal] Google Code closing down

2015-03-16 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Hello Martin, On 2015-03-16 12:35, Martin Frb wrote: better product, simply means: Compared to others it scores better on more use cases. Agreed. :-) Different people learn in different ways. There will be a fair share of people for whom taking their first steps into using a repository

Re: [fpc-other] [fpc-pascal] Google Code closing down

2015-03-16 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: If you want facts, then do a Google search. See the exponential growth of projects migrating from SubVersion (or other systems) to Git. Qt, KDE, Linux Kernel etc - they are massive projects and must have had very good reason to move to Git. The Linux developers moved

Re: [fpc-other] [fpc-pascal] Google Code closing down

2015-03-16 Thread vfclists .
On 16 March 2015 at 11:50, Mark Morgan Lloyd markmll.fpc-ot...@telemetry.co.uk wrote: Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: If you want facts, then do a Google search. See the exponential growth of projects migrating from SubVersion (or other systems) to Git. Qt, KDE, Linux Kernel etc - they are

Re: [fpc-other] [fpc-pascal] Google Code closing down

2015-03-16 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Hello Frank, On 2015-03-16 12:08, vfclists . wrote: have there been any good surveys supporting that conclusion? Yes, mine. :-P G. ___ fpc-other maillist - fpc-other@lists.freepascal.org

Re: [fpc-other] [fpc-pascal] Google Code closing down

2015-03-16 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Graeme Geldenhuys said: A better metric might be finding somebody who offers a selection of VCS protocols (possibly with a common backend- I believe such things exist?) and then looking at the relative use for checkouts etc. You can start by looking at the

Re: [fpc-other] [fpc-pascal] Google Code closing down

2015-03-16 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Hello Mark, On 2015-03-16 11:50, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: details perhaps they'd explain them, after all /somebody/ has to give Graeme something concrete on which to build his argument :-) hehehe... Just watch Linus's Google Tech Talk on YouTube. ;-) I can also add that SubVersion has *no*

Re: [fpc-other] [fpc-pascal] Google Code closing down

2015-03-16 Thread Martin Frb
On 16/03/2015 09:23, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: As the majority of developers would tell you, Git is simply the better product at this stage. That I can live with. There is a 2nd potential point of confusion to it. better product, simply means: Compared to others it scores better on more use

Re: [fpc-other] [fpc-pascal] Google Code closing down

2015-03-16 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Hello Martin, On 2015-03-16 14:35, Martin Frb wrote: A simple git alias can do that for you all in one command. ;-) And in a GUI? The only GUI on windows that was to my taste, is Tortoise. And exactly why I don't bother with 3rd party GUI frontends. They *all* lack git features. I found

Re: [fpc-other] [fpc-pascal] Google Code closing down

2015-03-16 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Hello Florian, On 2015-03-16 19:51, Florian Klämpfl wrote: But why do you use Pascal then? Sadly, I'm slowly moving to Java. Go where the work is. Regards, Graeme ___ fpc-other maillist - fpc-other@lists.freepascal.org

Re: [fpc-other] [fpc-pascal] Google Code closing down

2015-03-16 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: Hello Mark, On 2015-03-16 11:50, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: details perhaps they'd explain them, after all /somebody/ has to give Graeme something concrete on which to build his argument :-) hehehe... Just watch Linus's Google Tech Talk on YouTube. ;-) I can also add

Re: [fpc-other] [fpc-pascal] Google Code closing down

2015-03-16 Thread Florian Klämpfl
Am 16.03.2015 um 13:53 schrieb Graeme Geldenhuys: Hello Martin, On 2015-03-16 12:35, Martin Frb wrote: better product, simply means: Compared to others it scores better on more use cases. Agreed. :-) Different people learn in different ways. There will be a fair share of people

Re: [fpc-other] [fpc-pascal] Google Code closing down

2015-03-16 Thread Florian Klämpfl
Am 16.03.2015 um 10:23 schrieb Graeme Geldenhuys: As the majority of developers would tell you, Git is simply the better product at this stage. If you want facts, then do a Google search. See the exponential growth of projects migrating from SubVersion (or other systems) to Git. Qt, KDE,

Re: [fpc-other] [fpc-pascal] Google Code closing down

2015-03-16 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Hello Martin, On 2015-03-15 20:32, Martin Frb wrote: But that does not change, that there are developers who store their projects in GIT, but who do not use the features at all. For such a developer it can be said, that even CVS has more feature, than the set of features they use in GIT.

Re: [fpc-other] [fpc-pascal] Google Code closing down

2015-03-16 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Hello Martin, On 2015-03-15 20:49, Martin Frb wrote: I did judge your statement on it, that /As 99% of developers would tell you, Git is simply// the better product./ My apologies if there has been some confusion. Probably down to a language barrier issue. In the context the usage of 99%