Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Jonas Maebe wrote:
Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
I've already got both in the fpc.cfg file:
# path to the gcclib
-Fl/usr/lib/gcc/arm-linux-gnueabi/4.6.3
-Fl/usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabi
"make all" in the top level directory ignores your fpc.cfg (by de
Jonas Maebe wrote:
Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
I've already got both in the fpc.cfg file:
# path to the gcclib
-Fl/usr/lib/gcc/arm-linux-gnueabi/4.6.3
-Fl/usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabi
"make all" in the top level directory ignores your fpc.cfg (by design).
[Slaps forehead] I'
Jonas Maebe wrote:
Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
/usr/local/src/fpc/fixes_3_0/rtl/units/arm-linux/cprt0.o: In function
`_haltproc_eabi':
(.text+0x88): undefined reference to `_fini'
/usr/local/src/fpc/fixes_3_0/rtl/units/arm-linux/cprt0.o: In function
`_haltproc_eabi':
(.text+0
Jonas Maebe wrote:
On 30/08/15 17:36, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
[Requesting program interpreter: /lib/ld-linux.so.3]
..
$ ls -l /lib/ld-linux.so.3
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 28 Oct 16 2014 /lib/ld-linux.so.3 ->
arm-linux-gnueabi/ld-2.13.so
$ ls -l /lib/arm-linux-gnueabi/ld-2.13.so
-rwxr
Jonas Maebe wrote:
On 30/08/15 15:35, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
..
[Requesting program interpreter: /lib/ld-linux-armhf.so.3]
..
That file's missing, something's obviously badly wrong with the Rpi
filesystem etc.: I strongly suspect that somebody did an incautious
update/up
Jonas Maebe wrote:
On 29/08/15 17:57, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
./fpmake compile --localunitdir=.. --os=linux --cpu=arm -o -Ur -o -Xs -o
-O2 -o -n -o -Fu/usr/local/src/fpc/fixes_3_0/rtl/units/arm-linux -o
-V3.0.1 -o -O- -o -gl -o -Xs- -o -vt -o -darm -o -dRELEASE
--compiler=/usr/local/src/fpc
Martin Schreiber wrote:
On Saturday 29 August 2015 15:38:35 Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Martin, what would be really useful is knowing /exactly/ what sources
you used to build your binary at
http://sourceforge.net/projects/mseide-msegui/files/fpcarm/
"
svn info
Path: .
Working Copy Root
="-dFPC_ARMHF" to get an armhf
compiler (even if you already start with an armhf compiler). I haven't
updated the compiler readme yet, but I've at least mentioned this in the
mean time at
http://wiki.freepascal.org/FPC_New_Features_3.0#Support_for_the_armhf_EABI
Thanks,
Martin Schreiber wrote:
On Wednesday 26 August 2015 20:14:09 Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Is there a native ARM version compatible with the Raspberry Pi?
Here:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/mseide-msegui/files/fpcarm/
Please run eabihf/lib/fpc/3.0.1/samplecfg in order to create a default
Martin Schreiber wrote:
On Wednesday 26 August 2015 20:14:09 Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Is there a native ARM version compatible with the Raspberry Pi?
Here:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/mseide-msegui/files/fpcarm/
Please run eabihf/lib/fpc/3.0.1/samplecfg in order to create a default
/beta/3.0.0-rc1
Is there a native ARM version compatible with the Raspberry Pi?
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x27;s
basically restricted to passing/returning strings as procedure
parameters/results.
Delphi has "Runtime Packages" for this. But those are not (yet)
implemented in fpc (which would need to do that for all OSes)
So you need to do "flat" library calls: no objects, no stri
Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
On Wed, 19 Aug 2015, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Michael Schnell wrote:
On 08/18/2015 10:03 PM, Chris Moody wrote:
Having issues getting cross compiling to work, so here's another idea:
What files would I need to move from Lazarus on my computer to the
Pi,
Michael Schnell wrote:
On 08/19/2015 10:11 AM, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
A (physically) headless system can run Lazarus etc. without any
problems, provided that you can login using X11 (XDMCP), VNC, or SSH.
Additionally you need a GUI Libray (QT or whatever)
I do know that, but running an X
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Michael Schnell wrote:
On 08/14/2015 04:38 PM, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
It seeds itself with "entropy" from the intervals between LAN packets,
intervals between typed characters and so on.
Unfortunately "Randomize" (in Linux in "System") just does
randseed
Or they've got broken
security, which probably describes the majority.
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I seem to have a tablet with Android 5.0 based on an Intel Atom CPU
(Z3735F) here.
I've got rather a lot of stuff on my plate so I'm putting off playing
with this as long as I can, but can anybody comment on where FPC (and
possibly Lazarus) are with this sort of device?
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on things
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Marco van de Voort wrote:
In our previous episode, Mark Morgan Lloyd said:
I think that the one thing I'd suggest to everybody is that it would be
highly desirable if the dangling else fix were guaranteed to break
Pascal syntax. As such end if; etc. might be a better choice
If you st
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x86 and x86-64 Jessie, my experience so
far is that GTK2 doesn't work and that Qt is the only viable option.
GOK what it's like on other platforms that might not have such a
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Gour wrote:
Mark Morgan Lloyd
writes:
The first option would be a pure Pascal one, driving either a
graphical or a text-based (curses etc.) UI.
Here you mean fpGUI & MSEgui?
No, more than anything I mean going directly to the relevant APIs. Using
fpGUI etc. is a potentially-us
I has pretty much the same learning curve I think.
Graeme, could you update us on the extent to which Lazarus or an
equivalent IDE supports form design etc. for fpGUI these days?
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ly do require careful choice of
compiler version and- if using Lazarus- widget set.
fpGUI and MSEgui definitely have their good points, they're lean and are
only mean in self-defence :-)
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Lukasz Sokol wrote:
On 31/07/15 16:41, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Lukasz Sokol wrote:
On 31/07/15 14:46, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Lukasz Sokol wrote:
Hi,
I tried piecing something like in $topic together,
intended as an 'interactive' command interpreter for my program. (which wil
Lukasz Sokol wrote:
On 31/07/15 14:46, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Lukasz Sokol wrote:
Hi,
I tried piecing something like in $topic together,
intended as an 'interactive' command interpreter for my program.
(which will in time grow an 'embedded' web server and intended t
rded most of my attempts, it might be worth looking at
if you're trying to process lines rather than characters.
I think this was discussed a few months ago, and consensus was that
there wasn't an adequate terminal emulator component. See below.
http://free-pascal-lazarus.989080.n3.
Lukasz Sokol wrote:
On 24/07/15 12:12, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
It turns out that there's a more-or-less off-the-shelf solution in
SpanDSP http://www.soft-switch.org/ which is one of the libraries
that underlies IAXmodem. It provides a function to process a block of
samples, hence a cal
Coyo wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 15:47:52 +
Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jul 2015, Coyo wrote:
I have read on the wiki and documentation that FreePascal does not
have any native support for socket handling, and that you need an
external third party
d by almost everybody but aren't packaged with FPC because
their developers prefer to stay independent.
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Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
On Fri, 24 Jul 2015, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
When writing something like a parser, does FPC have anything that
exposes the properties of each Unicode codepoint?
I'm thinking in particular of Unicode properties like BidiMirroring,
which Perl6 uses to d
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Lukasz Sokol wrote:
On 20/07/15 17:32, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Lukasz Sokol wrote:
It's been years since I had anything to do with DSP, unfortunately,
but with the FFT running on the sliding 26-sample-long window, and
a /reverse/ FFT to produce the 26-long sample from just having a
byte
Lukasz Sokol wrote:
On 20/07/15 10:49, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Lukasz Sokol wrote:
Hi Mark,
On 18/07/15 17:43, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Has anybody used FPC to decode (and generate) FSK modem tones on
a VOIP connection? Strictly V.21, don't need the complexity of
QAM etc.
i haven
Lukasz Sokol wrote:
Hi Mark,
On 18/07/15 17:43, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Has anybody used FPC to decode (and generate) FSK modem tones on a
VOIP connection? Strictly V.21, don't need the complexity of QAM
etc.
i haven't ;) but it's interesting: are you just assembling/dec
Has anybody used FPC to decode (and generate) FSK modem tones on a VOIP
connection? Strictly V.21, don't need the complexity of QAM etc.
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stuff between the two to e.g. merge menu structures: it takes work but
isn't particularly painful.
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pc an option like -k-T/some_path_here/ldscripts/elf32_sparc.x
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memory.
Before trying anything like this, I suggest that it would be worth
finding under what circumstances appropriate symlinks etc. are set up.
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Ewald wrote:
On 05/14/2015 04:17 PM, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
So in effect, both an exit and a raise first execute the innermost
finally, then look for procedure end or exception block repeating as
necessary.
Yes.
These are the only cases where syntax needs to be unwound in this way
Ewald wrote:
On 05/14/2015 12:08 PM, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Is there a single place in the documentation where this sort of
behaviour is described and prioritised,
Your first fragment is documented on
http://www.freepascal.org/docs-html/ref/refse103.html At the bottom of
that page: `Note
Jonas Maebe wrote:
On 14/05/15 13:18, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Except that- as I understand it- when the reference count is decremented
to oblivion, it will be destroyed by "magic" code in the context of the
block it was created in.
At which point exactly they will be destr
Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
On Thu, 14 May 2015, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Starting off with this fragment
begin // Start of procedure/function
try
...
if something then
exit;
...
finally
...
end
end;
My understanding is that exit "magically" transfers contro
ritised, taking into account interfaces etc.?
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FPC installation script was broken,
but otherwise the only time it happens is if I move an fpc.cfg file from
one system to another where the underlying gcc etc. version is different.
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any information about additional options modifying the overall
behaviour.
If anybody works on this please could they link to 24789 on Mantis which
is sitting there unassigned.
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ich under
some circumstances reported the address of an IP4 client formatted as
IP6. It wouldn't be easy for me to get back into that at the moment, but
I reported an ordering problem (Mantis 22605) and had my concerns partly
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Michael Schnell wrote:
On 03/20/2015 11:09 PM, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Efficient implementation of coroutines requires CPU-specific code in
the RTL and possibly the compiler. However
http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/coroutines.html suggests a
way that coroutines can be implemented
Marco van de Voort wrote:
In our previous episode, Mark Morgan Lloyd said:
Efficient implementation of coroutines requires CPU-specific code in the
RTL and possibly the compiler. However
http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/coroutines.html suggests a
way that coroutines can be
hat proper implementation of
coroutines means switching stacks which is highly architecture-specific;
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like import,
commit and update.
I wonder whether libsvn would do what you want. Google suggests that
Dmitry Boyarintsev was looking at this.
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efined type e.g. a record describing the header followed by
an array encompassing the data, however the actual length of the data is
unknown at compilation time which means that hardware-supported bounds
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Coyo Stormcaller wrote:
On 03/19/2015 04:25 AM, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
While it is possible to write a complete stack from scratch in any
reasonably-complete programming language, and while this has been done
for e.g. embedded systems (or by idiots such as myself for
demonstration/testing
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
On 2015-03-19 08:10, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
In any event the output would need to be presented in a reproducible
sequence.
A good point, but thinking about it I don't think it would be that hard.
The text output might be a bit more tricky, but not impossible.
ould be to make
these into enumerations, which would be passed to a function as a parameter.
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netpipes (hose and faucet) utilities.
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CPU's
something to do and maybe complete 2000+ tests in a shorter period. ;-)
Thoughts?
In any event the output would need to be presented in a reproducible
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27;s quote that "A month later, the
[Sourceforge] restrictions were relaxed so that individual projects
could indicate whether or not their software should be blocked." I know
that FPC has users in Cuba, do they still have problems downloading from
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Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
On Sat, 14 Mar 2015, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
If you haven't seen yet, Google announced that they will be closing
down Google Code. My only concern is that some niche projects used it
and that such code could be lost if not migrat
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
On 2015-03-14 10:39, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
looking for an acceptable alternative- preferably one that operates by
European rules rather than American ones.
Google Code was definitely based on American rules.
I know.
Anyway, have a look at GitLab - I just bought
needs migration,
please do so. It is always sad to see open source code (no matter how
old) simply lost.
I was just about to start using it for something. Now I've got to start
looking for an acceptable alternative- preferably one that operates by
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Marco van de Voort wrote:
In our previous episode, Mark Morgan Lloyd said:
Are there any known issues with this sort of thing fpGetTimeOfDay
(@TimeVal, nil) on various platforms? FPC 2.6.4 and 2.7.1 seem to be OK
on x86, but on x64 (and FWIW SPARC, haven't tested others) it appears t
veral seconds between calls.
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blems which /might/ center on the removable SD card.
BeagleBone Black has a lot going for it particularly if you can use its
high-speed supplementary processors. Otherwise the MIPS Creator C120
http://store.imgtec.com/ look interesting, but I don't know whether
anybody has FPC on it yet.
s is from memory) "make cannot find the
command -ijjhgjhgjhg".
Apart from that, a valiant attempt :-)
Just my 2d worth.
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Michael Schnell wrote:
On 02/28/2015 08:20 PM, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Looking at
http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Multithreaded_Application_Tutorial#Initialization_and_Finalization
there are dire warnings that TThread.Create() shouldn't be overridden.
???
The Docs say "No
Mattias Gaertner wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2015 19:20:49 +
Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
[...]
Looking at
http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Multithreaded_Application_Tutorial#Initialization_and_Finalization
there are dire warnings that TThread.Create() shouldn't be overridden.
Th
960, which predates its
popularisation by DEC etc. by some years.
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it's a significant issue?
Sorry about the niggles, I'm currently trying to track down a race
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build-id (ELF note NT_GNU_BUILD_ID), if defined? Presumably this uses
bfd.pas, which I notice is GPL rather than LGPL.
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it's lost the ~ (tilde) so 404s.
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you might find http://wiki.freepascal.org/Native_MIPS_Systems useful. I
tweaked that a few days ago since I think a couple of steps were in the
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x27;t install Lazarus, because you don't have a GUI.
A headless system can still map a GUI to a desktop computer using X,
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Björn Schreiber wrote:
Am 26.01.2015 um 21:15 schrieb Mark Morgan Lloyd:
Since nobody else has suggested anything: is the new hardware
susceptible to alignment errors in a way that the old hardware wasn't?
The question is: how can we know? The ARM documentation says only "The
n is that there were
issues on SPARC that might have included alignment problems, and on that
architecture I had to abandon 2.6.4 promptly and move onto trunk. I'm
currently testing Lazarus trunk at about 47318 is OK with FPC 2.7.1
29398 on various CPUs running Linux, can't speak
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Lazarus.
I don't know whether anybody from Imagination is lurking, but I was
discussing FPC etc. with one of their directors a few months ago and he
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irectly where possible or use qemu-user to emulate them where not
possible.
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I know, in this case we could switch to
an external gdb and
get rid of glibc but this proves only the point).
Noting that I asked about something related to this in fpc-devel the
other day, I assure you that I feel your pain.
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owing that he used FPC 2.2.0, is optimisation etc. likely to have
improved enough that somebody could usefully suggest he rerun the test?
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re subtle,
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Ewald wrote:
On 12/11/2014 11:13 PM, Howard Page-Clark wrote:
On 11/12/2014 21:07, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
I've been doing a bulk replace of 'case..else' to 'case..otherwise' to
eliminate possible ambiguities that have bitten me in the past, and have
noticed somethin
tive
otherwise clauses, and I spent enough time with Modula-2 to prefer
enumerating all possibilities).
Is this difference expected, and what is the best workaround?
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Discussion elsewhere has mentioned mORMot as a development framework. It
claims to work with both Delphi and FPC: is anybody actively using it
"in anger", so that I can pass the confirmation back to where I saw this
mentioned?
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om discussion elsewhere I don't believe it
could be added in a compatible way. Some variant of Mark() that took a
parameter suggesting how much memory could be allocated could be useful,
but your focus should be on preventing leaks and runaway rather than
con
acked a wrapper some while ago for my own use, which tries to
preserve the form of the variable (i.e. if it's currently "True" then
"False" is written, but if it's "yes" then "no" is written"). That's
obviously massively problemati
Reinier Olislagers wrote:
On 30/09/2014 22:05, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Marco van de Voort wrote:
In our previous episode, Sven Barth said:
It is indeed true that all units are initialized once the main code
Reinier: did you get as far as looking in Dynlibs for an error message
immediately
uld the RTL have a
flag indicating that initialisation (or finalisation?) blocks were
currently being run, and anything called should assume that facilities
were restricted?
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it was being invoked from
DLL/so initialisation code and raise a "don't try that here" exception?
Reinier: did you get as far as looking in Dynlibs for an error message
immediately after trying to connect to the database?
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it is
called, and when it exits it goes back to the OS (possibly via
finalisation blocks).
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Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
On Tue, 30 Sep 2014, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Reinier Olislagers wrote:
On 29/09/2014 19:30, Reinier Olislagers wrote:
Re bug report: agreed. I'll raise it.
Jonas has already closed it, noting
"http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/ms
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