Re: [fpc-pascal] AppImage

2018-01-16 Thread Sven Barth via fpc-pascal
Am 16.01.2018 22:58 schrieb "Rainer Stratmann" : Am Dienstag, 16. Januar 2018, 22:41:34 schrieb Sven Barth via fpc-pascal: > This won't work in the more diverse > Linux world where users are more free to decide. But if you take a closer look at this (diverse) that

Re: [fpc-pascal] AppImage

2018-01-16 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 2018-01-16 22:00, Rainer Stratmann wrote: Instead of they are fighting against each other who has the better window manager. And that is what I love, and why we have such great Linux desktop environments. Competition drives innovation. Just compare it to the cr*p Windows 10 interface or

Re: [fpc-pascal] AppImage

2018-01-16 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 2018-01-16 21:41, Sven Barth via fpc-pascal wrote: Because here Apple simply enforced it. This won't work in the more diverse Linux world where users are more free to decide. I fully agree. And explains why all previous attempts and such "app bundles" have not succeeded in the Linux space.

Re: [fpc-pascal] AppImage

2018-01-16 Thread Rainer Stratmann
Am Dienstag, 16. Januar 2018, 22:41:34 schrieb Sven Barth via fpc-pascal: > This won't work in the more diverse > Linux world where users are more free to decide. But if you take a closer look at this (diverse) that is some kind of pseudo free and decide. It would be technical no such problem

Re: [fpc-pascal] AppImage

2018-01-16 Thread Sven Barth via fpc-pascal
Am 16.01.2018 20:41 schrieb "Graeme Geldenhuys" < mailingli...@geldenhuys.co.uk>: On 2018-01-16 06:51, Sven Barth via fpc-pascal wrote: > So, yeah, I'm definitely skeptical about such approaches. > All valid points. But if it was such a big concern, then why was Apple happy to go with it. Maybe

Re: [fpc-pascal] AppImage

2018-01-16 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 2018-01-16 20:08, Rainer Stratmann wrote: And the key is to try to generate as less dependencies as possible. Yup! Welcome to my world [see fpGUI Toolkit]. ;-) Regards, Graeme -- fpGUI Toolkit - a cross-platform GUI toolkit using Free Pascal http://fpgui.sourceforge.net/ My public

Re: [fpc-pascal] AppImage

2018-01-16 Thread Rainer Stratmann
Am Dienstag, 16. Januar 2018, 19:41:38 schrieb Graeme Geldenhuys: > On 2018-01-16 06:51, Sven Barth via fpc-pascal wrote: > > So, yeah, I'm definitely skeptical about such approaches. > > All valid points. But if it was such a big concern, then why was Apple > happy to go with it. Maybe the

Re: [fpc-pascal] AppImage

2018-01-16 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Tue, 16 Jan 2018, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: On 2018-01-16 06:51, Sven Barth via fpc-pascal wrote: So, yeah, I'm definitely skeptical about such approaches. All valid points. But if it was such a big concern, then why was Apple happy to go with it. I think because Apple's base system

Re: [fpc-pascal] AppImage

2018-01-16 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 2018-01-16 06:51, Sven Barth via fpc-pascal wrote: So, yeah, I'm definitely skeptical about such approaches. All valid points. But if it was such a big concern, then why was Apple happy to go with it. Maybe the concern is not so bad. As for bigger apps (due to bundled dependencies)

Re: [fpc-pascal] AppImage

2018-01-16 Thread Rainer Stratmann
Am Dienstag, 16. Januar 2018, 07:51:27 schrieb Sven Barth via fpc-pascal: > Maybe because each app will have its own dependencies, thus duplicating > code. > Also if you have different versions of dependencies they might access > shared global configuration in incompatible ways. > Not to mention

Re: [fpc-pascal] AppImage

2018-01-15 Thread Sven Barth via fpc-pascal
Am 16.01.2018 00:50 schrieb "Graeme Geldenhuys" < mailingli...@geldenhuys.co.uk>: On 2018-01-15 20:54, Michael Van Canneyt wrote: > It's nothing but a zip with the needed dependencies. > More precisely, they use a standard ISO image that gets loop mounted. Simply rename any *.AppImage

Re: [fpc-pascal] AppImage

2018-01-15 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 2018-01-15 20:54, Michael Van Canneyt wrote: It's nothing but a zip with the needed dependencies. More precisely, they use a standard ISO image that gets loop mounted. Simply rename any *.AppImage application with a .iso extension and you can examine the directory structure and content.

Re: [fpc-pascal] AppImage

2018-01-15 Thread Darius Blaszyk
> Take a look at > > https://appimage.org/ > > Is this possible for Freepascal and Lazarus? Though I'm not able to help you, it seems to be similar to https://www.docker.com/. Though docker apps can run on other platforms like windows and mac as well. Rgds,

Re: [fpc-pascal] AppImage

2018-01-15 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Mon, 15 Jan 2018, Rainer Stratmann wrote: Take a look at https://appimage.org/ Is this possible for Freepascal and Lazarus? Yes, of course. It's even quite easy for vanilla FPC apps. It's nothing but a zip with the needed dependencies. A vanilla FPC app doesn't need any libraries

[fpc-pascal] AppImage

2018-01-15 Thread Rainer Stratmann
Take a look at https://appimage.org/ Is this possible for Freepascal and Lazarus? ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal