On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 08:50:06 +0200
Graeme Geldenhuys graemeg.li...@gmail.com wrote:
Borland and Embarcadero jumps off
the cliff - FPC must now also jump off the cliff. :)
Hello, Graeme!
I'm surprised of this, fpc still systematically trying to follow Delphi, after
so many years. I can
Op 2010-06-04 12:54, spir het geskryf:
(including choices of non-implementation), so why not having already
made the step of declaring fpc a (object) Pascal dialect of its own?
I agree 100%. It was all good and well (in the beginning) to try and be a
Delphi clone, but now it makes no real
On Fri, 4 Jun 2010, spir wrote:
On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 08:50:06 +0200
Graeme Geldenhuys graemeg.li...@gmail.com wrote:
Borland and Embarcadero jumps off
the cliff - FPC must now also jump off the cliff. :)
Hello, Graeme!
I'm surprised of this, fpc still systematically trying to follow
On Fri, 4 Jun 2010 13:21:09 +0200 (CEST)
Michael Van Canneyt mich...@freepascal.org wrote:
And to be honest, I think we do a very good job of it. Yes, we don't have
100% compatibility. But no, it's never 100%. But it is certainly good
enough to satisfy most people that need it.
Hello,
In our previous episode, Michael Van Canneyt said:
To many people inside and outside the FPC team, a high degree of Delphi
compatibility is a must. For a simple reason: reuse of existing Delphi
code, of which there is infinitely more than FPC code.
(see e.g. also the number of Delphi
On Fri, 4 Jun 2010, spir wrote:
On Fri, 4 Jun 2010 13:21:09 +0200 (CEST)
Michael Van Canneyt mich...@freepascal.org wrote:
And to be honest, I think we do a very good job of it. Yes, we don't have
100% compatibility. But no, it's never 100%. But it is certainly good
enough to satisfy most
On 4 June 2010 13:53, Marco van de Voort wrote:
And porting 3rd party delphi code.
I've already ported OS/2 Pascal, C#, Java and C/C++ code to Free
Pascal. It's not that hard at all, so even if FPC is not very Delphi
compatible, porting will still be much easier than porting from other
Op 2010-06-04 14:09, Michael Van Canneyt het geskryf:
Personally, I fail to understand what people are complaining about.
I make my programs with the tools available, and they work damn well.
Michael, the thing is that sometimes somebody will come up with a better
idea for something - yes we
On Fri, 4 Jun 2010, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
On 4 June 2010 13:53, Marco van de Voort wrote:
And porting 3rd party delphi code.
I've already ported OS/2 Pascal, C#, Java and C/C++ code to Free
Pascal. It's not that hard at all, so even if FPC is not very Delphi
compatible, porting will
On Fri, 4 Jun 2010, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
Op 2010-06-04 14:09, Michael Van Canneyt het geskryf:
Personally, I fail to understand what people are complaining about.
I make my programs with the tools available, and they work damn well.
Michael, the thing is that sometimes somebody will
The other problem with Delphi Compatibility is that not even the FPC
team knows which version of Delphi we are supposed to be Delphi
compatible with.
Of course we know: given infinite time, we would support all. Given the
limited time we have, we support the stuff we think being important.
Op 2010-06-04 14:58, Michael Van Canneyt het geskryf:
And as for 'improve quickly':
- Where are the donations ?
- Where are the developers ?
As soon as someone pays me my salary to work full-time on FPC:
there will be REAL quick improvement; I guarantee it.
I have many things I would like
In our previous episode, Graeme Geldenhuys said:
And porting 3rd party delphi code.
I've already ported OS/2 Pascal, C#, Java and C/C++ code to Free
Pascal. It's not that hard at all, so even if FPC is not very Delphi
compatible, porting will still be much easier than porting from other
In our previous episode, Graeme Geldenhuys said:
And if it is just a
hobby to the core developers, why then so damn strict with accepting
improvements (patches, alternative designs etc)?
Hobby doesn't mean we don't care. And it doesn't eliminate a decade (and
longer) experience in
Op 2010-06-04 15:45, Florian Klaempfl het geskryf:
of stuff. Of course, a patch breaking existing stuff will be accepted
less likely.
And yet Embarcadero is ok with breaking compatibility - if it means
improving the product. Yet core developers from FPC and its hobby project
can't get over
In our previous episode, Graeme Geldenhuys said:
Op 2010-06-04 15:45, Florian Klaempfl het geskryf:
of stuff. Of course, a patch breaking existing stuff will be accepted
less likely.
And yet Embarcadero is ok with breaking compatibility - if it means
improving the product. Yet core
On Fri, 4 Jun 2010, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
Op 2010-06-04 14:58, Michael Van Canneyt het geskryf:
And as for 'improve quickly':
- Where are the donations ?
- Where are the developers ?
As soon as someone pays me my salary to work full-time on FPC:
there will be REAL quick improvement; I
Graeme Geldenhuys schrieb:
Op 2010-06-04 15:45, Florian Klaempfl het geskryf:
of stuff. Of course, a patch breaking existing stuff will be accepted
less likely.
And yet Embarcadero is ok with breaking compatibility - if it means
improving the product. Yet core developers from FPC and its
On Fri, 4 Jun 2010, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
Op 2010-06-04 15:45, Florian Klaempfl het geskryf:
of stuff. Of course, a patch breaking existing stuff will be accepted
less likely.
And yet Embarcadero is ok with breaking compatibility - if it means
improving the product.
That is also the
Hello,
This discussion is interesting, but it's a meta-discussion that is
overwhelming this list due to its sheer volume. So let's please move
it to the fpc-other list.
Thanks,
Jonas
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