Re: [fpc-pascal] Pascal Lexical Diagrams

On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 10:19 AM, Graeme Geldenhuys < mailingli...@geldenhuys.co.uk> wrote: > On 2016-02-01 14:59, Dmitry Boyarintsev wrote: > > > > Could you please categorize any page as "outdated"? > > Is there a "outdated" category? If not, I don't know how to add new > categories. > The catego

Re: [fpc-pascal] Pascal Lexical Diagrams

On 2016-02-01 14:59, Dmitry Boyarintsev wrote: > > Could you please categorize any page as "outdated"? Is there a "outdated" category? If not, I don't know how to add new categories. > So later any page within the category could be considered for either update > or removal. The problem is that

Re: [fpc-pascal] Pascal Lexical Diagrams

On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 4:32 AM, Graeme Geldenhuys < mailingli...@geldenhuys.co.uk> wrote: > On 2016-01-30 19:12, Michael Van Canneyt wrote: > > Wikimedia is NOT documentation. It is a knowledgebase. > > +1000 > > The Lazarus project just doesn't seem to get that. The Lazarus wiki has > so much bro

Re: [fpc-pascal] Pascal Lexical Diagrams

On 2016-02-01 16:13, Peter wrote: > Would this be of any interest? (Rather than reinvent the wheel.) > http://www.bottlecaps.de/rr/ui Very nice, thanks for sharing. Regards, - Graeme - ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org ht

Re: [fpc-pascal] Pascal Lexical Diagrams

On 30/01/16 09:45, Anthony Walter wrote: > I've been working on writing Javascript to generate lexical language > diagrams Would this be of any interest? (Rather than reinvent the wheel.) http://www.bottlecaps.de/rr/ui Peter ___ fpc-pascal maillist

Re: [fpc-pascal] Pascal Lexical Diagrams

Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: On 2016-01-30 12:26, Jürgen Hestermann wrote:> The look of the diagrams is very good. Call me old-fashioned, but what is wrong with the EBNF (ExtendedBackus-Naur Form) which is also an ISO standard. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_Backus%E2%80%93Naur_Form I th

Re: [fpc-pascal] Pascal Lexical Diagrams

On 2016-01-30 12:26, Jürgen Hestermann wrote: > The look of the diagrams is very good. Call me old-fashioned, but what is wrong with the EBNF (Extended Backus-Naur Form) which is also an ISO standard. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_Backus%E2%80%93Naur_Form I think the EBNF syntax is c

Re: [fpc-pascal] Pascal Lexical Diagrams

Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: So hopefully we can drop the nasty "railroad" Americanism, since it wasn't the original name. And hopefully we can use "syntax" in the name, since that's what they describe. Hence "syntax chart", "syntax diagram" or something similar. Please :-) Where I live, "synta

Re: [fpc-pascal] Pascal Lexical Diagrams

On 2016-01-30 19:34, Ewald wrote: > So I am > trying to convince you to collaborate to the existing documentation > instead of writing your own. Because your own documentation will also be > a one-man project, +1 And he will be 15+ years behind Michael van Canneyt's efforts. Regards, - Graeme

Re: [fpc-pascal] Pascal Lexical Diagrams

On 2016-01-30 19:12, Michael Van Canneyt wrote: > Wikimedia is NOT documentation. It is a knowledgebase. +1000 The Lazarus project just doesn't seem to get that. The Lazarus wiki has so much broken or outdated information, no offline support, no documentation per Lazarus release. The list off "br

Re: [fpc-pascal] Pascal Lexical Diagrams

Michael Van Canneyt wrote: Found . Sorry for ask! ^^' Nice. Added to my bookmarks :-) I may actually use this to redo the official ones as PNG images. Without wanting to go too far OT, I wonder whether I could make a couple of observations.

Re: [fpc-pascal] Pascal Lexical Diagrams

On Sat, 30 Jan 2016, silvioprog wrote: On Sat, Anthony Walter wrote: [...] With my script I'm able to render these diagrams which will be appear under the Free Pascal language Lexical topic: http://cache.getlazarus.org/images/lexical-diagrams.png On Sat, silvioprog wrote: Which tool do y

Re: [fpc-pascal] Pascal Lexical Diagrams

On Sat, Anthony Walter wrote: [...] > With my script I'm able to render these diagrams which will be appear > under the Free Pascal language Lexical topic: > > http://cache.getlazarus.org/images/lexical-diagrams.png > >> On Sat, silvioprog wrote: >> Which tool do you use to make these charts? :-)

Re: [fpc-pascal] Pascal Lexical Diagrams

On Sat, 30 Jan 2016, Ewald wrote: On 01/30/2016 08:22 PM, Anthony Walter wrote: Ewald, Maybe you should go to the forums and enlighten everyone. I provided the link in my last reply. You missed the point. It is not my intention to shove my opinion down anyone's throat. I do however think

Re: [fpc-pascal] Pascal Lexical Diagrams

Ewald, Maybe you should go to the forums and enlighten everyone. I provided the link in my last reply. ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal

Re: [fpc-pascal] Pascal Lexical Diagrams

On Sat, 30 Jan 2016, Anthony Walter wrote: Mattias, Noted. Thank you. Ewald, There was/is a big discussion on the forums about the terrible state of the documentation. Instead of discussing, the time would be better spent on reporting issues about the documentation. I always respond very

Re: [fpc-pascal] Pascal Lexical Diagrams

Ewald, If you read the threads on the Lazarus forums you'll see the points people are making while complaining about the documentation, tutorials, and application developer guides, including complaints from some of the top contributors. In a nutshell it has been said that the wikimedia engine is b

Re: [fpc-pascal] Pascal Lexical Diagrams

On Sat, 30 Jan 2016, Ewald wrote: On 01/30/2016 07:21 PM, Anthony Walter wrote: There was/is a big discussion on the forums about the terrible state of the documentation. Two things: - I don't think the state of the documentation is terrible. It has in fact improved vastly over the year

Re: [fpc-pascal] Pascal Lexical Diagrams

On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 5:23 PM, Michael Van Canneyt wrote: > On Sat, 30 Jan 2016, silvioprog wrote: > >> On Sat, Anthony Walter wrote: >> [...] >> >>> With my script I'm able to render these diagrams which will be appear >>> under the Free Pascal language Lexical topic: >>> >>> http://cache.get

Re: [fpc-pascal] Pascal Lexical Diagrams

On 01/30/2016 08:22 PM, Anthony Walter wrote: > Ewald, > > Maybe you should go to the forums and enlighten everyone. I provided > the link in my last reply. You missed the point. It is not my intention to shove my opinion down anyone's throat. I do however think that reinventing documentation (wi

Re: [fpc-pascal] Pascal Lexical Diagrams

Michael, My portal is titled 'Learning Center'. Regarding the label Documenation, I am following along with this topic: Documentation / tutorials need improvement (was: Object Pascal decline?) http://forum.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php/topic,31272.0.html Where most people are referencing the

Re: [fpc-pascal] Pascal Lexical Diagrams

On 01/30/2016 08:09 PM, Anthony Walter wrote: > Ewald, > > If you read the threads on the Lazarus forums I'm not subscribed to that forum as I do not use lazarus. I use freepascal without an IDE. So by all means: enlighten me :-) > you'll see the points people are making while complaining about t

Re: [fpc-pascal] Pascal Lexical Diagrams

On Sat, 30 Jan 2016, Anthony Walter wrote: Ewald, If you read the threads on the Lazarus forums you'll see the points people are making while complaining about the documentation, tutorials, and application developer guides, including complaints from some of the top contributors. In a nutshell

Re: [fpc-pascal] Pascal Lexical Diagrams

On 01/30/2016 07:21 PM, Anthony Walter wrote: > > There was/is a big discussion on the forums about the terrible state > of the documentation. Two things: - I don't think the state of the documentation is terrible. It has in fact improved vastly over the years. - By creating a secondary se

Re: [fpc-pascal] Pascal Lexical Diagrams

Mattias, Noted. Thank you. Ewald, There was/is a big discussion on the forums about the terrible state of the documentation. I already am hosting easy to setup bundles (for example my OSX bundle installed CodeTools and offers you the choice between Homebrew and Macports) which include Free Pasca

Re: [fpc-pascal] Pascal Lexical Diagrams

On 01/30/2016 10:45 AM, Anthony Walter wrote: > I've been working on writing Javascript to generate lexical language > diagrams for the getlazarus.org learning > center portal. > > With my script I'm able to render these diagrams which will be appear > under the Free Pascal

Re: [fpc-pascal] Pascal Lexical Diagrams

On Sat, 30 Jan 2016 04:45:27 -0500 Anthony Walter wrote: > I've been working on writing Javascript to generate lexical language > diagrams for the getlazarus.org learning center portal. > > With my script I'm able to render these diagrams which will be appear under > the Free Pascal language Lex

Re: [fpc-pascal] Pascal Lexical Diagrams

On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 6:45 AM, Anthony Walter wrote: > I've been working on writing Javascript to generate lexical language > diagrams for the getlazarus.org learning center portal. > > With my script I'm able to render these diagrams which will be appear > under the Free Pascal language Lexica

Re: [fpc-pascal] Pascal Lexical Diagrams

I'll consider arrow heads, though I'm unlikely to add them. My layout design is based on the JSON http://json.org/ style with which I believe plenty of people are familiar. Here's an updated diagram with some of the changes you've noted including some new additions and thinner lines and fonts. ht

Re: [fpc-pascal] Pascal Lexical Diagrams

Am 2016-01-30 um 10:45 schrieb Anthony Walter: > I've been working on writing Javascript to generate lexical language diagrams for the getlazarus.org learning center portal. > With my script I'm able to render these diagrams which will be appear under the Free Pascal language Lexical topic: > ht