[fpc-pascal] Corba Interfaces and IInterface query

2010-11-14 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Hi, Below is an example of two interfaces I declared. Trying to implement them on a TObject subclass, I got a compiler error that IUnkown was not implemented in my subclass. In all units I defined {$interfaces corba} Eventually I found out that I had to remove the (IInterface) heritage from my

Re: [fpc-pascal] Corba Interfaces and IInterface query

2010-11-14 Thread Sven Barth
On 14.11.2010 11:52, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: Hi, Below is an example of two interfaces I declared. Trying to implement them on a TObject subclass, I got a compiler error that IUnkown was not implemented in my subclass. In all units I defined {$interfaces corba} Eventually I found out that I

Re: [fpc-pascal] Corba Interfaces and IInterface query

2010-11-14 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 14 November 2010 13:03, Sven Barth pascaldra...@googlemail.com wrote: It's Delphi compatible: http://docwiki.embarcadero.com/VCL/XE/en/System.IInterface So yes, it seems to be a COM interface even in Delphi 7+ (I don't know about Kylix though). I don't know that the latest Embarcadero

[fpc-pascal] Is it posible to implement more than one interface in a class defination?

2010-11-14 Thread yu ping
For example if there are two Interface : IinterfaceA,IinterfaceB can I implement these two interface in one class? Thanks pingyu ___ fpc-pascal maillist -

Re: [fpc-pascal] Corba Interfaces and IInterface query

2010-11-14 Thread Sven Barth
On 14.11.2010 13:03, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: On 14 November 2010 13:03, Sven Barthpascaldra...@googlemail.com wrote: It's Delphi compatible: http://docwiki.embarcadero.com/VCL/XE/en/System.IInterface So yes, it seems to be a COM interface even in Delphi 7+ (I don't know about Kylix though).

Re: [fpc-pascal] Is it posible to implement more than one interface in a class defination?

2010-11-14 Thread Sven Barth
On 14.11.2010 13:08, yu ping wrote: For example if there are two Interface : IinterfaceA,IinterfaceB can I implement these two interface in one class? Yes, you can. Take the following example: type IInterfaceA = interface procedure A; end; IInterfaceB = interface procedure

Re: [fpc-pascal] Corba Interfaces and IInterface query

2010-11-14 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 14 November 2010 14:18, Sven Barth wrote: IInterface and IUnknown are the same in Delphi 7 as well as they are in FPC (although they are aliased the other way round, but that doesn't matter). So then comes the big question — why have IInterface then, if it is exactly the same as IUnknown,

Re: [fpc-pascal] Is it posible to implement more than one interface in a class defination?

2010-11-14 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 14 November 2010 14:08, yu ping wrote:  For example if there are two Interface : IinterfaceA,IinterfaceB  can I implement these two interface in one class? Yes you can, but be warned, Interfaces doesn't seem to be a high priority feature in FPC - I don't think many here use Interfaces. There

Re: [fpc-pascal] Corba Interfaces and IInterface query

2010-11-14 Thread Sven Barth
On 14.11.2010 14:16, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: On 14 November 2010 14:18, Sven Barth wrote: IInterface and IUnknown are the same in Delphi 7 as well as they are in FPC (although they are aliased the other way round, but that doesn't matter). So then comes the big question — why have

Re: [fpc-pascal] MSEide+MSEgui rev.2.4

2010-11-14 Thread Paul Breneman
Martin Schreiber wrote: Hi, MSEide+MSEgui version 2.4 for FPC 2.4.2 has been released: https://developer.berlios.de/project/showfiles.php?group_id=11520 Questions and bug reports please to mailing list: https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk NNTP gateway:

Re: [fpc-pascal] Corba Interfaces and IInterface query

2010-11-14 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 14 November 2010 15:36, Sven Barth pascaldra...@googlemail.com wrote: Ask Borland why they decided to do it that way... perhaps they wanted a common ancestor for they case they ever decide to use non COM interfaces... (I can only guess here) This is exactly what I am saying IInterface is a

Re: [fpc-pascal] MSEide+MSEgui rev.2.4

2010-11-14 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Paul Breneman said: This is a new page with FPC 2.4.2 and fpGUI: http://www.turbocontrol.com/easyfpgui.htm I'd like to set up a similar page for MSEgui (and maybe for MSEide as well). Please contact me off-list about this. Btw, you might want to scrap the

Re: [fpc-pascal] Corba Interfaces and IInterface query

2010-11-14 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Graeme Geldenhuys said: This is exactly what I am saying IInterface is a non-COM interface in Kylix Please leave IInterface alone. It took me a week of work to let the current IInterface=IUnknown alias propagate properly in fpdoc's internal structures :-)

[fpc-pascal] Re: MSEide+MSEgui rev.2.4

2010-11-14 Thread Martin Schreiber
Paul Breneman wrote: I'd like to set up a similar page for MSEgui (and maybe for MSEide as well). Please contact me off-list about this. Done. Martin ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org

Re: [fpc-pascal] MSEide+MSEgui rev.2.4

2010-11-14 Thread Paul Breneman
Marco van de Voort wrote: In our previous episode, Paul Breneman said: This is a new page with FPC 2.4.2 and fpGUI: http://www.turbocontrol.com/easyfpgui.htm I'd like to set up a similar page for MSEgui (and maybe for MSEide as well). Please contact me off-list about this. Btw, you

Re: [fpc-pascal] Corba Interfaces and IInterface query

2010-11-14 Thread Sven Barth
On 14.11.2010 14:58, Marco van de Voort wrote: In our previous episode, Graeme Geldenhuys said: This is exactly what I am saying IInterface is a non-COM interface in Kylix Please leave IInterface alone. It took me a week of work to let the current IInterface=IUnknown alias propagate properly

[fpc-pascal] When do I need a component rather than a plain object?

2010-11-14 Thread Frank Church
Does TObject have all the capabilities of TComponent apart from things like streaming and being used from the IDE component palette? I want to create an object which has all the capabilities like getting and setting properties, and I want to know whether I need to inherit from TObject or from

Re: [fpc-pascal] Corba Interfaces and IInterface query

2010-11-14 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 14 November 2010 15:58, Marco van de Voort mar...@stack.nl wrote: Please leave IInterface alone. It took me a week of work to let the current IInterface=IUnknown alias propagate properly in fpdoc's internal structures :-) :-) I can't say I saw that one coming. -- Regards,   - Graeme -

Re: [fpc-pascal] Corba Interfaces and IInterface query

2010-11-14 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 14 November 2010 17:25, Sven Barth wrote: Besides think about the following: Let's say IInterface would be changed to be the base ancestor type for Corba interfaces. What about existing classes that implement IInterface (which currently declares QueryInterface, AddRef and Release, cause

Re: [fpc-pascal] Corba Interfaces and IInterface query

2010-11-14 Thread Florian Klaempfl
Graeme Geldenhuys schrieb: FPC's designs should stay logical and clean, and it's up to the developers to maintain their application code and fixe such bad/broken code. ... and as soon as we do such a logical decision, you start whining, whining about the bad fpc developers destroying your

Re: [fpc-pascal] Is it posible to implement more than one interface in a class defination?

2010-11-14 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Hi Everybody, On 14 November 2010 16:31, Jonas Maebe wrote: Please don't spread FUD. There are several projects that make heavy use of interfaces that work fine with FPC (e.g. Zeoslib). Yes, interface delegation is not finished (other than that, interfaces work fine afaik) Let me just

Re: [fpc-pascal] Corba Interfaces and IInterface query

2010-11-14 Thread Sven Barth
On 14.11.2010 17:30, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: On 14 November 2010 17:25, Sven Barth wrote: Besides think about the following: Let's say IInterface would be changed to be the base ancestor type for Corba interfaces. What about existing classes that implement IInterface (which currently declares

Re: [fpc-pascal] Corba Interfaces and IInterface query

2010-11-14 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 14 November 2010 18:44, Florian Klaempfl wrote: ... and as soon as we do such a logical decision, you start whining, whining about the bad fpc developers destroying your business plans. Bo hoo... It's called being able to maintain code in the long run. Keep adding one hack after the next

Re: [fpc-pascal] Corba Interfaces and IInterface query

2010-11-14 Thread Florian Klaempfl
Graeme Geldenhuys schrieb: On 14 November 2010 18:44, Florian Klaempfl wrote: ... and as soon as we do such a logical decision, you start whining, whining about the bad fpc developers destroying your business plans. Bo hoo... It's called being able to maintain code in the long run. Oh, I

Re: [fpc-pascal] Is it posible to implement more than one interface in a class defination?

2010-11-14 Thread Sven Barth
On 14.11.2010 17:49, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: * incomplete delegation (non existent in FPC 2.4.2) I haven't used this for quite a long time, so I can't test it just now... what are you missing? * No name resolution (function aliases) of conflicting interfaces Ehhh... the

Re: [fpc-pascal] Is it posible to implement more than one interface in a class defination?

2010-11-14 Thread Florian Klaempfl
Sven Barth schrieb: * No name resolution (function aliases) of conflicting interfaces Ehhh... the following code compiles with 2.4.2 and even 2.4.0: Typical FUD tactics: mix something people know being true with something wrong and they believe you the wrong statement. var t:

Re: [fpc-pascal] Is it posible to implement more than one interface in a class defination?

2010-11-14 Thread Sven Barth
On 14.11.2010 18:17, Florian Klaempfl wrote: var t: TMyInterfacedObject; i: IMyInterface; begin t := TMyInterfacedObject.Create; try i := t; t.Foo; i.Foo; finally t.Free; end; end. source end Output is: output begin Foo Bar An unhandled exception occurred at $08056B71 :

Re: [fpc-pascal] Corba Interfaces and IInterface query

2010-11-14 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Sunday, 14. November 2010 17.30:13 Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: Under all other OSes, (which don't have COM), FPC should default to CORBA style interfaces, where IInterface is non-COM - same as what was done in Kylix. What's the point of have COM style interface on non-Windows platforms

Re: [fpc-pascal] Corba Interfaces and IInterface query

2010-11-14 Thread Matt Emson
On 14 Nov 2010, at 13:16, Graeme Geldenhuys graemeg.li...@gmail.com wrote: On 14 November 2010 14:18, Sven Barth wrote: IInterface and IUnknown are the same in Delphi 7 as well as they are in FPC (although they are aliased the other way round, but that doesn't matter). So then comes the

Re: [fpc-pascal] Is it posible to implement more than one interface in a class defination?

2010-11-14 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 14 November 2010 19:11, Sven Barth pascaldra...@googlemail.com wrote:    * No name resolution (function aliases) of conflicting interfaces Ehhh... the following code compiles with 2.4.2 and even 2.4.0: My apologies then, I must not have seen the announcement. I also looked in my ref.pdf

Re: [fpc-pascal] Corba Interfaces and IInterface query

2010-11-14 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 14 November 2010 19:49, Martin Schreiber mse00...@gmail.com wrote: Reference counted interfaces need compiler magic AFAIK. Indeed, you are correct. -- Regards,   - Graeme - ___ fpGUI - a cross-platform Free Pascal GUI toolkit

Re: [fpc-pascal] Corba Interfaces and IInterface query

2010-11-14 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 14 November 2010 19:45, Matt Emson memson.li...@googlemail.com wrote: methods. We used them much as one would with in .Net these days. More about light public interfaces, encapsulation and delegation rather than ref counting and such. This is how I use interfaces too. I never to COM

Re: [fpc-pascal] When do I need a component rather than a plain object?

2010-11-14 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Sun, 14 Nov 2010, Frank Church wrote: Does TObject have all the capabilities of TComponent apart from things like streaming and being used from the IDE component palette? I want to create an object which has all the capabilities like getting and setting properties, and I want to know

Re: [fpc-pascal] Is it posible to implement more than one interface in a class defination?

2010-11-14 Thread Andrew Hall
I suspect the reason is that the object still has a refCount of 1 when you free it and this code raises the exception: procedure TInterfacedObject.BeforeDestruction; begin if frefcount0 then HandleError(204); end; You should never free an interfaced object

[fpc-pascal] Re: [admin] List moderation (was: Is it posible to implement more than one interface in a class defination?)

2010-11-14 Thread Jonas Maebe
On 14 Nov 2010, at 17:49, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: By all means, if it will make you feel better/happier, then why not simply unsubscribe or band my from all FPC and Lazarus related mailing lists while you are at it. It has nothing to do with with how I feel, although I can't say that I

Re: [fpc-pascal] Is it posible to implement more than one interface in a class defination?

2010-11-14 Thread Andrew Hall
FWIW, both interface delegation (implements) and method aliasing have been supported in FPC for at least 2 years (we first tested/used them in January 2009 with FPC 2.2.2 which was released in August 2008). * We have used method aliasing extensively - it appears to behave the same as