Re: [fpc-pascal] Forum merger

2009-12-30 Thread Marc Weustink
dmitry boyarintsev wrote: I'm not sure if forums are to be merged or not, but why not to start an FPC specific thread on Lazarus forum? For example there're a lot of RTL/FCL specific subject, like this one: http://forum.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php/topic,8272.msg39707/topicseen.html#new

Re: [fpc-pascal] Forum merger

2009-12-30 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Marc Weustink said: General or Using FreePascal - General (or more specific - Bugs / Patches) I see no problem in adding Freepascal / Compiler General Rtl Packages (and maybe move databases) Textmode ide ? :-)

Re: [fpc-pascal] Forum merger

2009-12-29 Thread dmitry boyarintsev
I'm not sure if forums are to be merged or not, but why not to start an FPC specific thread on Lazarus forum? For example there're a lot of RTL/FCL specific subject, like this one: http://forum.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php/topic,8272.msg39707/topicseen.html#new The subject is not LCL related

Re: [fpc-pascal] Forum merger

2009-12-22 Thread Florian Klaempfl
Paul Nicholls schrieb: For me, i like to see Pascal generate good web application, especially if it had Right To Left support :) What is right to left support? Bidi support as e.g. semitic languages require. ___ fpc-pascal maillist -

[fpc-pascal] Forum merger 2

2009-12-22 Thread Osvaldo Filho
(google translate) Why not start? We did not start because it is not interesting or because can not be done? After all, is it possible to do a good job for the web in Pascal? Why not start a project for a Forum in Pascal, without specifying anything in the project, once registered as

Re: [fpc-pascal] Forum merger 2

2009-12-22 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Osvaldo Filho wrote: anything in the project, once registered as participants, with a schedule public, voting technologies: svn, git, googlegroups, OPF, db, other frameworks, etc. I say it again. Just register the project and start coding. You being the first developer, you have the honour of

Re: [fpc-pascal] Forum merger

2009-12-22 Thread Lee Jenkins
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: Bee Jay wrote: Yes, and it would take forever if no one dare to start it. ;) So Bee, register a project on SourceForge or GitHub and start coding. Maybe somebody will contribute at some stage. Like they said in some old movie: Build it and they will come. Was Field

Re: [fpc-pascal] Forum merger

2009-12-22 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Lee Jenkins wrote: Was Field of Dreams that long ago? Thanks Graeme, I don't think I felt quite as old before this. :-) Yeah, that was the movie I was referring too. :-) I just celebrated my 35 birthday, so now I feel very old (the downhill part is getting closer). But clearly your

Re: [fpc-pascal] Forum merger

2009-12-22 Thread Osvaldo Filho
http://groups.google.com/group/forpas/about 2009/12/18 Graeme Geldenhuys graemeg.li...@gmail.com: Vincent Snijders wrote: The most important thing now is that (at least) one person actually starts *coding* and making his source available. Where is not that important. I agree 100%.

Re: [fpc-pascal] Forum merger

2009-12-21 Thread Zaher Dirkey
Are you discussing about build Forum or CMS using fpWeb/pascal? It is need use also CSS and JavaScript and Database. This kind of projects take a long time with many security bugs need to fix it immediately, it is not like a local desktop application, and after that what the real profits? For

Re: [fpc-pascal] Forum merger

2009-12-21 Thread Paul Nicholls
- Original Message - From: Zaher Dirkey parm...@gmail.com To: FPC-Pascal users discussions fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 10:47 AM Subject: Re: [fpc-pascal] Forum merger Are you discussing about build Forum or CMS using fpWeb/pascal? It is need use

Re: [fpc-pascal] Forum merger

2009-12-21 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Zaher Dirkey wrote: Are you discussing about build Forum or CMS using fpWeb/pascal? I thought this message thread was about a Forum app implemented in fpWeb. Regards, - Graeme - -- fpGUI Toolkit - a cross-platform GUI toolkit using Free Pascal http://opensoft.homeip.net/fpgui/

Re: [fpc-pascal] Forum merger

2009-12-18 Thread Vincent Snijders
Graeme Geldenhuys schreef: I really don't care where projects are created - I think SourceForge or GitHub are more visible and accessible by all. So that would be my first choice anyway. I really don't care either. The most important thing now is that (at least) one person actually starts

Re: [fpc-pascal] Forum merger

2009-12-18 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Vincent Snijders wrote: The most important thing now is that (at least) one person actually starts *coding* and making his source available. Where is not that important. I agree 100%. Regards, - Graeme - -- fpGUI Toolkit - a cross-platform GUI toolkit using Free Pascal

Re: [fpc-pascal] Forum merger

2009-12-17 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Wed, 16 Dec 2009, Andreas Berger wrote: If I made one, then I'll make it using Powtils (fully CGI) or ExtPascal (fully Ajax) because that's what I know and have been experience with. I myself prefer to use fpWeb since it's provided by FPC's FCL. No third party dependency is good for

Re: [fpc-pascal] Forum merger

2009-12-17 Thread Bee Jay
So I would recommend going with something closer to home (part of FPC) - like fpWeb. This gives much better certainty that it will be continuously maintained - even if that only means no new feature but at least compilable with latest FPC. Yes, that's also the main reason of mine to build

Re: [fpc-pascal] Forum merger

2009-12-17 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Michael Van Canneyt wrote: The advantage of fpweb is that it doesn't matter whether you want to use an apache module, plain cgi or fastcgi, or in a standalone server. It works with all 4 types. That's good news! Can you explain more about what you mean by standalone server? One of our

Re: [fpc-pascal] Forum merger

2009-12-17 Thread Osvaldo Filho
Well, fpWeb is winner, yes? Bee can create a sourceforge project? 2009/12/17 Graeme Geldenhuys graemeg.li...@gmail.com: Michael Van Canneyt wrote: The advantage of fpweb is that it doesn't matter whether you want to use an apache module, plain cgi or fastcgi, or in a standalone server. It

Re: [fpc-pascal] Forum merger

2009-12-17 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: Michael Van Canneyt wrote: The advantage of fpweb is that it doesn't matter whether you want to use an apache module, plain cgi or fastcgi, or in a standalone server. It works with all 4 types. That's good news! Can you explain more about

Re: [fpc-pascal] Forum merger

2009-12-17 Thread Bee Jay
Well, fpWeb is winner, yes? Bee can create a sourceforge project? If it would use fpWeb then I refuse to be the project owner because I almost know nothing about fpWeb. I even intend to study fpWeb from this project. The project owner should be someone who knows how to build (at least)

Re: [fpc-pascal] Forum merger

2009-12-17 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009, Bee Jay wrote: Well, fpWeb is winner, yes? Bee can create a sourceforge project? If it would use fpWeb then I refuse to be the project owner because I almost know nothing about fpWeb. I even intend to study fpWeb from this project. The project owner should be someone

Re: [fpc-pascal] Forum merger

2009-12-17 Thread Matthias Klumpp
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:23:08 +0100 (CET), Michael Van Canneyt mich...@freepascal.org wrote: On Thu, 17 Dec 2009, Bee Jay wrote: Well, fpWeb is winner, yes? Bee can create a sourceforge project? If it would use fpWeb then I refuse to be the project owner because I almost know nothing about

Re: [fpc-pascal] Forum merger

2009-12-17 Thread Bee Jay
The advantage of fpweb is that it doesn't matter whether you want to use an apache module, plain cgi or fastcgi, or in a standalone server. It works with all 4 types. Is there any demo or documentation about them, especially the FCGI? I only saw CGI demos and very lack of documentation

Re: [fpc-pascal] Forum merger

2009-12-17 Thread Vincent Snijders
Matthias Klumpp schreef: server, this is not really a problem. Why don't use Git this time? A. Because there no Git Server on the FPC SVN server. It's making code review and code merging from other sources a lot easier. I don't understand what you mean here. Vincent

Re: [fpc-pascal] Forum merger

2009-12-17 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Vincent Snijders wrote: A. Because there no Git Server on the FPC SVN server. Git doesn't need a server/daemon app to work on a server - anyway, git includes everything needed. Anyway, SourceForge and GitHub etc all support Git repositories with no problems - so we don't need to disturb the

Re: [fpc-pascal] Forum merger

2009-12-17 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Bee Jay wrote: If it would use fpWeb then I refuse to be the project owner because I almost know nothing about fpWeb. Well if you don't use it, you will never learn it. There seems to be 4 or so developers interested in this. ANYBODY, just create a damn repository and start coding - no

Re: [fpc-pascal] Forum merger

2009-12-17 Thread Vincent Snijders
Graeme Geldenhuys schreef: I agree with Mattias. I didn't think Mattias commented on this thread. Do you mean Matthias, who suggested to use Git on the FPC svn server? Vincent ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org

Re: [fpc-pascal] Forum merger

2009-12-17 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Vincent Snijders wrote: I didn't think Mattias commented on this thread. Do you mean Matthias, ah, spelling mistake from my side. Yes, I was agreeing with what Matthias Klumpp said. who suggested to use Git on the FPC svn server? Then we can't call it a FPC SVN server any more. :-) I

Re: [fpc-pascal] Forum merger

2009-12-16 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Wed, 16 Dec 2009, Bee Jay wrote: So Bee, register a project on SourceForge or GitHub and start coding. Maybe somebody will contribute at some stage. Like they said in some old movie: Build it and they will come. If I made one, then I'll make it using Powtils (fully CGI) or ExtPascal

Re: [fpc-pascal] Forum merger

2009-12-16 Thread Osvaldo Filho
Powtils + FreeSpider ? 2009/12/16 Michael Van Canneyt mich...@freepascal.org: On Wed, 16 Dec 2009, Bee Jay wrote: So Bee, register a project on SourceForge or GitHub and start coding. Maybe somebody will contribute at some stage. Like they said in some old movie: Build it and they will

Re: [fpc-pascal] Forum merger

2009-12-16 Thread Osvaldo Filho
FreeSpider http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php?topic=7439.0 Powtils http://code.google.com/p/powtils/ 2009/12/16 Osvaldo Filho arquivos...@gmail.com: Powtils + FreeSpider ? 2009/12/16 Michael Van Canneyt mich...@freepascal.org: On Wed, 16 Dec 2009, Bee Jay wrote: So Bee,

Re: [fpc-pascal] Forum merger

2009-12-16 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Wed, 16 Dec 2009, Osvaldo Filho wrote: Powtils + FreeSpider ? What do those have that fpWeb does not have ? To my knowledge, PowTils is not even OOP... Michael. 2009/12/16 Michael Van Canneyt mich...@freepascal.org: On Wed, 16 Dec 2009, Bee Jay wrote: So Bee, register a project

Re: [fpc-pascal] Forum merger

2009-12-16 Thread Andreas Berger
If I made one, then I'll make it using Powtils (fully CGI) or ExtPascal (fully Ajax) because that's what I know and have been experience with. I myself prefer to use fpWeb since it's provided by FPC's FCL. No third party dependency is good for new comers, and it's also better FPC/Lazarus

Re: [fpc-pascal] Forum merger

2009-12-16 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Osvaldo Filho wrote: Powtils + FreeSpider ? I'm currently using Powtils for our company CGI projects, but thinking of moving over to fpWeb in the new year, simply because I like to reduce 3rd Party dependencies, and Powtils seems rather abandonded. I'm still stuck on a locally modified 1.6.0.2

Re: [fpc-pascal] Forum merger

2009-12-15 Thread Osvaldo Filho
I like the idea! When I see MonoDevelop and compare with Lazarus, I see that we need more ideas to the market. I see no problem in being more attractive to the market. I see no problem in bringing new fans to Lazarus. The tool is good. The FPC is mature. We need things that with a larger community

Re: [fpc-pascal] Forum merger

2009-12-15 Thread Matthias Klumpp
On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 11:18:54 -0300, Osvaldo Filho arquivos...@gmail.com wrote: I like the idea! When I see MonoDevelop and compare with Lazarus, I see that we need more ideas to the market. I see no problem in being more attractive to the market. I see no problem in bringing new fans to

Re: [fpc-pascal] Forum merger

2009-12-15 Thread Andreas Berger
Yes, this is it. I don't have any experience in building web-applications with Pascal, but if someone registers a new project at Gitorious or somewhere else I would like to help as far as I can. As would I. I will soon need to write a CGI program, and this would be a great way.

Re: [fpc-pascal] Forum merger

2009-12-15 Thread Bee Jay
So Bee, register a project on SourceForge or GitHub and start coding. Maybe somebody will contribute at some stage. Like they said in some old movie: Build it and they will come. If I made one, then I'll make it using Powtils (fully CGI) or ExtPascal (fully Ajax) because that's what I

Re: [fpc-pascal] Forum merger

2009-12-14 Thread Marc Weustink
Bee Jay wrote: We have already merged the wikis, what about merging the forums? I would propose merging into the Lazarus forum. Why don't we make our own forum application using fpWeb (or Powtils or ExtPascal)? Specially dedicated for FPC and Lazarus users. It can be a showcase that pascal

Re: [fpc-pascal] Forum merger

2009-12-14 Thread Bee Jay
When we planned to move the lazarus forum the same discussion was started. It took months without result. Because not many people know how to build a web application using pascal. That's why I propose some of us who have experience with that to build one. This project can be used to

Re: [fpc-pascal] Forum merger

2009-12-14 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Bee Jay wrote: Yes, and it would take forever if no one dare to start it. ;) So Bee, register a project on SourceForge or GitHub and start coding. Maybe somebody will contribute at some stage. Like they said in some old movie: Build it and they will come. Regards, - Graeme - -- fpGUI

Re: [fpc-pascal] Forum merger

2009-12-13 Thread Florian Klaempfl
Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho schrieb: Hello, I've noticed that few people use the FPC Forum and questions often stay months without answer. I would answer more questions, but monitoring 2 forums is too much work. We have already merged the wikis, what about merging the forums? I would

Re: [fpc-pascal] Forum merger

2009-12-13 Thread Paul Ishenin
Florian Klaempfl wrote: Fine with me but is there a tool to merge the community site into the forum software used by lazarus? How the community site is built? Does it uses own made engine or some well known? Best regards, Paul Ishenin. ___

Re: [fpc-pascal] Forum merger

2009-12-13 Thread Bee Jay
We have already merged the wikis, what about merging the forums? I would propose merging into the Lazarus forum. Why don't we make our own forum application using fpWeb (or Powtils or ExtPascal)? Specially dedicated for FPC and Lazarus users. It can be a showcase that pascal (FPC/Lazarus in

Re: [fpc-pascal] Forum merger

2009-12-13 Thread Rainer Stratmann
Am Sunday 13 December 2009 12:36:10 schrieb Bee Jay: We have already merged the wikis, what about merging the forums? I would propose merging into the Lazarus forum. Why don't we make our own forum application using fpWeb (or Powtils or ExtPascal)? Specially dedicated for FPC and Lazarus

Re: [fpc-pascal] Forum merger

2009-12-13 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Paul Ishenin said: Fine with me but is there a tool to merge the community site into the forum software used by lazarus? How the community site is built? Does it uses own made engine or some well known? Some netscape application server thingy iirc. Daniel

Re: [fpc-pascal] Forum merger

2009-12-13 Thread Bee Jay
Then it would be possible to make a userfriendly forum and to add useful functions. Of course, since we have all the source code that we are fluent at. :D Another thing is... it could also be a test suite for fpWeb both on performance and maintenance which both usually become main

Re: [fpc-pascal] Forum merger

2009-12-13 Thread Rainer Stratmann
Am Sunday 13 December 2009 12:53:03 schrieb Bee Jay: Then it would be possible to make a userfriendly forum and to add useful functions. Of course, since we have all the source code that we are fluent at. :D Another thing is... it could also be a test suite for fpWeb both on performance

Re: [fpc-pascal] Forum merger

2009-12-13 Thread Florian Klaempfl
Bee Jay schrieb: We have already merged the wikis, what about merging the forums? I would propose merging into the Lazarus forum. Why don't we make our own forum application using fpWeb (or Powtils or ExtPascal)? Time? ___ fpc-pascal maillist -

Re: [fpc-pascal] Forum merger

2009-12-13 Thread Rainer Stratmann
Am Sunday 13 December 2009 13:08:08 schrieb Florian Klaempfl: Bee Jay schrieb: We have already merged the wikis, what about merging the forums? I would propose merging into the Lazarus forum. Why don't we make our own forum application using fpWeb (or Powtils or ExtPascal)? Time?

Re: [fpc-pascal] Forum merger

2009-12-13 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Bee Jay bee.ogra...@gmail.com wrote: Why don't we make our own forum application using fpWeb (or Powtils or ExtPascal)? I think this is separate from what I proposed. We can do the merger now into the Lazarus forum, and when this pascal forum becomes as good as

Re: [fpc-pascal] Forum merger

2009-12-13 Thread Paul Ishenin
Florian Klaempfl wrote: Why don't we make our own forum application using fpWeb (or Powtils or ExtPascal)? Time? So not to loose our time we can merge to the lazarus forum first and then if someone appear with the native pascal forum solution we will create a site based on it and merge

Re: [fpc-pascal] Forum merger

2009-12-13 Thread Bee Jay
if someone appear with the native pascal forum solution we will create a site based on it and merge everything there :) Is there someone out there had done this (pascal forum)? AFAIK, I only knew one: Powtils forum (which is now closed). Honestly, I never used fpWeb because I was a Powtils

Re: [fpc-pascal] Forum merger

2009-12-13 Thread Bee Jay
Time? I believe I could make a basic forum application within a few days, in my spare time, using ExtPascal. But I myself don't think ExtPascal would be the correct tool to be used since it creates a non search engine friendly application (because of Ajax). I think fpWeb would be the

Re: [fpc-pascal] Forum merger

2009-12-13 Thread Jonas Maebe
On 13 Dec 2009, at 12:51, Marco van de Voort wrote: I'm all for merging, if only to get the standaard phpbb possibility to get a list of new msgs. FWIW, you can also do that with the current community forum: log in, go to a forum's main page, and click at the bottom on klik hier om een

Re: [fpc-pascal] Forum merger

2009-12-13 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Sun, 13 Dec 2009, Bee Jay wrote: Time? I believe I could make a basic forum application within a few days, in my spare time, using ExtPascal. But I myself don't think ExtPascal would be the correct tool to be used since it creates a non search engine friendly application (because of

[fpc-pascal] Forum merger

2009-12-12 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
Hello, I've noticed that few people use the FPC Forum and questions often stay months without answer. I would answer more questions, but monitoring 2 forums is too much work. We have already merged the wikis, what about merging the forums? I would propose merging into the Lazarus forum. Not to