Re: [fpc-pascal] Hello, new Pascal programmer. had a question!

2021-09-03 Thread Peter via fpc-pascal
Sorry, my bad. I hadn't got Thunderbird configured right. All mail from this list just showed the list address in the 'From' field. Now fixed it.  Edit > Preferences > Advanced > "Show only display name for people in my address book" which was checked. Cheers, Pete

Re: [fpc-pascal] Hello, new Pascal programmer. had a question!

2021-09-02 Thread geneb via fpc-pascal
On Thu, 2 Sep 2021, Peter via fpc-pascal wrote: https://castle-engine.io/modern_pascal_introduction.html You can also download it as a single PDF. g. Thanks Dennis. Very useful refresher! You're welcome! (My name is Gene. :D ) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com

Re: [fpc-pascal] Hello, new Pascal programmer. had a question!

2021-09-02 Thread Peter via fpc-pascal
https://castle-engine.io/modern_pascal_introduction.html You can also download it as a single PDF. g. Thanks Dennis. Very useful refresher! Cheers, Pete ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org

Re: [fpc-pascal] Hello, new Pascal programmer. had a question!

2021-09-01 Thread James Richters via fpc-pascal
>I guess I should just use lazarus and learn the GUI Tools. I was having a >problem when i was following the one of the books on the FP book wiki > , where i went to compile my program, and the IDE threw an error about an .o > file not found. As others have mentioned, you can write console

Re: [fpc-pascal] Hello, new Pascal programmer. had a question!

2021-08-31 Thread Ralf Quint via fpc-pascal
On 8/31/2021 10:40 AM, joseph turco via fpc-pascal wrote: I guess I should just use lazarus and learn the GUI Tools. Using Lazarus doesn't mean you HAVE TO write GUI programs. Just use it as an IDE. And by and large, any book/resource about Object Pascal/Delphi will do just fine to learn the

Re: [fpc-pascal] Hello, new Pascal programmer. had a question!

2021-08-31 Thread Travis Siegel via fpc-pascal
Although not likely in this case, I am visually impaired, use a screen reader, and find the Lazarius IDE nearly unusable.  Of course, I've not touched it in years, because my first attempt at using it failed miserably, so for me, I simply use notpad, pico, nano, or text edit (depending on what

Re: [fpc-pascal] Hello, new Pascal programmer. had a question!

2021-08-31 Thread joseph turco via fpc-pascal
I guess I should just use lazarus and learn the GUI Tools. I was having a problem when i was following the one of the books on the FP book wiki , where i went to compile my program, and the IDE threw an error about an .o file not found. On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 1:21 PM Bart via fpc-pascal <

Re: [fpc-pascal] Hello, new Pascal programmer. had a question!

2021-08-31 Thread Bart via fpc-pascal
On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 12:23 PM Liam Proven via fpc-pascal wrote: > I've got Lazarus running here and it's more of the same. But I > discovered that I have `fpc` in the terminal and I had a "Hello world" > program running in 30 seconds there... something that took hours in > Delphi.

Re: [fpc-pascal] Hello, new Pascal programmer. had a question!

2021-08-31 Thread geneb via fpc-pascal
On Tue, 31 Aug 2021, Liam Proven via fpc-pascal wrote: For those of us who don't, though, docs that focus on doing that aren't much help. Agreed! I am only really interested in FPC for one thing -- targeting Ultibo, a bare-metal runtime for the Raspberry Pi. I'm interested in trying to

Re: [fpc-pascal] Hello, new Pascal programmer. had a question!

2021-08-31 Thread Liam Proven via fpc-pascal
On Tue, 31 Aug 2021 at 15:53, geneb wrote: > > Liam, I think you're mixing the language with the framework. > > I'll be the first person to agree with you that doing a gui application in > Delphi (and realistically, any RAD environment) can be intimidating if you > don't know that you're looking

Re: [fpc-pascal] Hello, new Pascal programmer. had a question!

2021-08-31 Thread geneb via fpc-pascal
On Tue, 31 Aug 2021, Liam Proven via fpc-pascal wrote: Plain old FreePascal is approachable. Object Pascal is deeply intimidating, and I'm not sure it's worth the entry price. Liam, I think you're mixing the language with the framework. I'll be the first person to agree with you that doing

Re: [fpc-pascal] Hello, new Pascal programmer. had a question!

2021-08-31 Thread Liam Proven via fpc-pascal
On Sun, 29 Aug 2021 at 15:26, Bart via fpc-pascal wrote: > > So, if you're on Windows, *nix or a Mac, my advice is to use Lazarus > as your IDE of choice. I see where you are coming from, I think, but I can relate to the OP. I played with Pascal at university, and in my first job -- I wrote a

Re: [fpc-pascal] Hello, new Pascal programmer. had a question!

2021-08-30 Thread geneb via fpc-pascal
On Mon, 30 Aug 2021, wkitty42--- via fpc-pascal wrote: On 8/30/21 8:52 AM, geneb via fpc-pascal wrote: [*] For those not aware of him, Jeff Duntemann was a huge figure "back in the day" in Turbo/Borland Pascal circles.  His books are phenomenal. i have and still use several of his books...

Re: [fpc-pascal] Hello, new Pascal programmer. had a question!

2021-08-30 Thread wkitty42--- via fpc-pascal
On 8/30/21 8:52 AM, geneb via fpc-pascal wrote: [*] For those not aware of him, Jeff Duntemann was a huge figure "back in the day" in Turbo/Borland Pascal circles.  His books are phenomenal. i have and still use several of his books... i think the first one we got was "Complete Turbo Pascal"

Re: [fpc-pascal] Hello, new Pascal programmer. had a question!

2021-08-30 Thread Thomas Young via fpc-pascal
> On Aug 27, 2021, at 4:01 PM, joseph turco via fpc-pascal > wrote: > > I am a new programmer, and I thought I'd learn Pascal. Good day Joseph, Pascal is the language I was taught in 1986. I’m still using it. First question to ask yourself is why and what do you need to program? For

Re: [fpc-pascal] Hello, new Pascal programmer. had a question!

2021-08-30 Thread Jean SUZINEAU via fpc-pascal
I've forgotten to add the link to "Snap!" manual: https://snap.berkeley.edu/snap/help/SnapManual.pdf ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal

Re: [fpc-pascal] Hello, new Pascal programmer. had a question!

2021-08-30 Thread Jean SUZINEAU via fpc-pascal
May be something like "Snap!" ? https://snap.berkeley.edu/snap/snap.html#present:Username=trev1315=plane%202 https://snap.berkeley.edu/project?user=trev1315=plane%202 On my own, I think starting with Lazarus and GUI apps would be far easier. If you create a new app from a template, you can

Re: [fpc-pascal] Hello, new Pascal programmer. had a question!

2021-08-30 Thread geneb via fpc-pascal
Here's a book that's aimed squarely at the non-programmer, and it's written for FreePascal http://www.copperwood.com/pub/FreePascalFromSquareOne.pdf It's written by Jeff Duntemann[*] and is a free download. Give it a look, while "unfinished" it will get you the knowledge you want. g. [*]

Re: [fpc-pascal] Hello, new Pascal programmer. had a question!

2021-08-30 Thread Armin Linder via fpc-pascal
I suggest this: https://castle-engine.io/modern_pascal_introduction.html as far as I remember there isn't a single GUI element used anywhere, it's all console/writeln, and it covers the "old style" (procedural) approach Turbo Pascal had, as well as working with more recent concepts like

Re: [fpc-pascal] Hello, new Pascal programmer. had a question!

2021-08-29 Thread joseph turco via fpc-pascal
Thanks for the response. that book is aimed to experienced programmers. Not for me sadly. On Sun, Aug 29, 2021 at 12:43 PM geneb via fpc-pascal < fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org> wrote: > On Sat, 28 Aug 2021, Dennis Lee Bieber via fpc-pascal wrote: > > > On Fri, 27 Aug 2021 16:01:38 -0400,

Re: [fpc-pascal] Hello, new Pascal programmer. had a question!

2021-08-29 Thread Yann Mérignac via fpc-pascal
http://code.sd/startprog/ Le dim. 29 août 2021 à 18:43, geneb via fpc-pascal < fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org> a écrit : > On Sat, 28 Aug 2021, Dennis Lee Bieber via fpc-pascal wrote: > > > On Fri, 27 Aug 2021 16:01:38 -0400, joseph turco via fpc-pascal > > declaimed > > the following: > > >

Re: [fpc-pascal] Hello, new Pascal programmer. had a question!

2021-08-29 Thread geneb via fpc-pascal
On Sat, 28 Aug 2021, Dennis Lee Bieber via fpc-pascal wrote: On Fri, 27 Aug 2021 16:01:38 -0400, joseph turco via fpc-pascal declaimed the following: question is, id like to use the free pascal IDE, and learn the more modern(?) form of pascal, but i cannot find a resource for beginners that

Re: [fpc-pascal] Hello, new Pascal programmer. had a question!

2021-08-29 Thread Bart via fpc-pascal
On Sat, Aug 28, 2021 at 3:21 PM joseph turco via fpc-pascal wrote: > I am a new programmer, and I thought I'd learn Pascal. You're very welcome. > I saw that with FreePascal, most users are using Lazarus. I don't want to use > this and would rather work in the console, > and use the free

Re: [fpc-pascal] Hello, new Pascal programmer. had a question!

2021-08-29 Thread Guillermo via fpc-pascal
Hi Joseph, Besides all other answers, once you have a (Turbo) Pascal basis you can read "Modern Object Pascal Introduction for Programmers" [https://castle-engine.io/modern_pascal_introduction.html]. It will show you old and new stuff. Regards, Guillermo "Ñuño" Martínez El Fri, 27 Aug 2021

Re: [fpc-pascal] Hello, new Pascal programmer. had a question!

2021-08-29 Thread James Richters via fpc-pascal
I write almost all console programs with FreePascal and also use the Freepascal IDE a lot. It is compatible with Turbo Pascal and that is what I learned to program with … because it was modern at the time  So turbo pascal books are a good way to learn Pascal in general, as I had no problem

Re: [fpc-pascal] Hello, new Pascal programmer. had a question!

2021-08-29 Thread Michael Van Canneyt via fpc-pascal
On Fri, 27 Aug 2021, joseph turco via fpc-pascal wrote: Hello all, I am a new programmer, and I thought I'd learn Pascal. I saw that with FreePascal, most users are using Lazarus. I don't want to use this and would rather work in the console, and use the free pascal IDE. I'm not really