Re: [fpc-pascal] VASM upgrade to 1.9 breaks cross compiler build

[Karoly Balogh via fpc-pascal]

Hi,

On Sat, 22 Apr 2023, Derek via fpc-pascal wrote:

> I downloaded the updated version of vasm v1.9d and compiled and installed as
> per Norman's document.

Just as a final update to this thread, Frank informed me, that the
official vasm 1.9d release is now out, so all users should upgrade to that
instead of using the daily snapshot. Just in case.

Charlie
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Re: [fpc-pascal] VASM upgrade to 1.9 breaks cross compiler build

[Derek via fpc-pascal]

Hi,

I downloaded the updated version of vasm v1.9d and compiled and 
installed as per Norman's document.


The cross compiler compiled with no errors and I was able to compile a 
'Hello World' program and execute the compiled program in a QL Emulator.


Regards,
Derek

On 21/04/2023 18:56, Norman Dunbar via fpc-pascal wrote:
I'm away from my QL until next week, but I'll check it then. I'll post a 
note on the QL Forum and see if some other affected users can test quicker.


Many thanks.


Cheers,
Norm.


On 21 April 2023 13:19:30 BST, Karoly Balogh via fpc-pascal 
 wrote:


Hi,

On Wed, 19 Apr 2023, Norman Dunbar via fpc-pascal wrote:

Thanks Charlie, I will be staying on 1.9 until further notice.


I was in touch with Frank Wille, and he confirmed the issue was
indeed in
vasm, and he provided a fix. You can try to download the "Daily
Snapshot",
from the vasm site, and try it:

http://sun.hasenbraten.de/vasm/index.php?view=source


Note that this is just what it says on the tin - a daily source
sanpshot,
and he'll release 1.9d officially later. Can you confirm that this fixes
your issue?

Charlie

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Re: [fpc-pascal] VASM upgrade to 1.9 breaks cross compiler build

[Norman Dunbar via fpc-pascal]

I have posted details on the QLb Forum and I've had a response that it all 
works fine now.

Please convey our thanks to Frank.


Cheers,
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Re: [fpc-pascal] VASM upgrade to 1.9 breaks cross compiler build

[Norman Dunbar via fpc-pascal]

Much obliged, thank you.

Cheers,
Norm.
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Re: [fpc-pascal] VASM upgrade to 1.9 breaks cross compiler build

[Pierre Muller via fpc-pascal]

  I tested it for m68k-sinclairql trunk target,
and the rtl and packages completed successfully with this
daily snapshot.

  Great!

Pierre

Le 21/04/2023 à 14:19, Karoly Balogh via fpc-pascal a écrit :

Hi,

On Wed, 19 Apr 2023, Norman Dunbar via fpc-pascal wrote:


Thanks Charlie, I will be staying on 1.9 until further notice.


I was in touch with Frank Wille, and he confirmed the issue was indeed in
vasm, and he provided a fix. You can try to download the "Daily Snapshot",
from the vasm site, and try it:

http://sun.hasenbraten.de/vasm/index.php?view=source

Note that this is just what it says on the tin - a daily source sanpshot,
and he'll release 1.9d officially later. Can you confirm that this fixes
your issue?

Charlie
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Re: [fpc-pascal] VASM upgrade to 1.9 breaks cross compiler build

[Norman Dunbar via fpc-pascal]

I'm away from my QL until next week, but I'll check it then. I'll post a note 
on the QL Forum and see if some other affected users can test quicker.

Many thanks.


Cheers,
Norm.

On 21 April 2023 13:19:30 BST, Karoly Balogh via fpc-pascal 
 wrote:
>Hi,
>
>On Wed, 19 Apr 2023, Norman Dunbar via fpc-pascal wrote:
>
>> Thanks Charlie, I will be staying on 1.9 until further notice.
>
>I was in touch with Frank Wille, and he confirmed the issue was indeed in
>vasm, and he provided a fix. You can try to download the "Daily Snapshot",
>from the vasm site, and try it:
>
>http://sun.hasenbraten.de/vasm/index.php?view=source
>
>Note that this is just what it says on the tin - a daily source sanpshot,
>and he'll release 1.9d officially later. Can you confirm that this fixes
>your issue?
>
>Charlie
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Re: [fpc-pascal] VASM upgrade to 1.9 breaks cross compiler build

[Karoly Balogh via fpc-pascal]

Hi,

On Wed, 19 Apr 2023, Norman Dunbar via fpc-pascal wrote:

> Thanks Charlie, I will be staying on 1.9 until further notice.

I was in touch with Frank Wille, and he confirmed the issue was indeed in
vasm, and he provided a fix. You can try to download the "Daily Snapshot",
from the vasm site, and try it:

http://sun.hasenbraten.de/vasm/index.php?view=source

Note that this is just what it says on the tin - a daily source sanpshot,
and he'll release 1.9d officially later. Can you confirm that this fixes
your issue?

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Re: [fpc-pascal] VASM upgrade to 1.9 breaks cross compiler build

[Norman Dunbar via fpc-pascal]

Thanks Charlie, I will be staying on 1.9 until further notice.


Cheers,
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Re: [fpc-pascal] VASM upgrade to 1.9 breaks cross compiler build

[Karoly Balogh via fpc-pascal]

Hi,

On Tue, 18 Apr 2023, Norman Dunbar via fpc-pascal wrote:

> I'm wondering where we go from here? The VASM home page doesn't seem to have
> any bug reporting facilities. Is there something that the FPC project can take
> forward, or should I attempt to find a link etc to report bugs in vasm?

I recently also became aware of this issue, as I was setting up my new
build environment on my new laptop. Thanks to this, I was already aware of
this, but I had no time to talk to Frank Wille, the maintainer of VASM
yet, due to other things I was busy with. I have to talk to him anyway
regarding other issues too. For now, it's great that you and Pierre
confirmed the issue.

Please stick to vasm 1.9 until further notice on m68k, and I'll get this
sorted.

Charlie
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Re: [fpc-pascal] VASM upgrade to 1.9 breaks cross compiler build

[Norman Dunbar via fpc-pascal]

On 18/04/2023 17:18, Pierre Muller via fpc-pascal wrote:

> ...> Checking of versions 1_9a and 1_9b confirms that the problem
> appeared in version 1_9a.
I can confirm this. Release 1.9 is indeed working fine, everything more 
recent is failing.


I'm wondering where we go from here? The VASM home page doesn't seem to 
have any bug reporting facilities. Is there something that the FPC 
project can take forward, or should I attempt to find a link etc to 
report bugs in vasm?


Thanks for your help in this.


Cheers,
Norm.



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Re: [fpc-pascal] VASM upgrade to 1.9 breaks cross compiler build

[Pierre Muller via fpc-pascal]

  I tried to update to the latest version 1.9c,
and that one indeed does lead to this error:
Executing "/home/muller/bin/m68k-sinclairql-vasmm68k_std" with command line "-quiet 
-elfregs -gas -Felf -m68000 -o 
/home/muller/pas/gitlab-fpc-source/rtl/units/m68k-sinclairql/system.o  
/home/muller/pas/gitlab-fpc-source/rtl/units/m68k-sinclairql/system.s"

warning 1007 in line 4 of 
"/home/muller/pas/gitlab-fpc-source/rtl/units/m68k-sinclairql/system.s": 
scratch at end of line
>.section .text.n_system_$$_mt_frjob$longint$longint,"awx"

So the regression appeared between versions 1.9 and 1.9c.
Checking of versions 1_9a and 1_9b confirms that the problem
appeared in version 1_9a.

Pierre




Le 18/04/2023 à 16:43, Pierre Muller via fpc-pascal a écrit :

Hi,

I think that my daily tests are using vasm 1.9 for sinclairql,
and I have no problems with them.

could you please be a little more specific about the exact version
of the compiler and the make command line you are using?

I used current trunk compiler with:
muller@gcc186:~/pas/trunk/fpcsrc$ make crossall CPU_TARGET=m68k OS_TARGET=sinclairql 
OPT="-n -vx"

which uses version 1.9c
muller@gcc186:~/pas/trunk/fpcsrc$ /home/muller/bin/m68k-sinclairql-vasmm68k_std
vasm 1.9 (c) in 2002-2022 Volker Barthelmann

And completes successfully:
make[2]: Leaving directory '/home/muller/pas/gitlab-fpc-source'
/usr/bin/echo Build > build-stamp.m68k-sinclairql
/usr/bin/echo Build > base.build-stamp.m68k-sinclairql
make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/muller/pas/gitlab-fpc-source'

Pierre

Le 18/04/2023 à 16:14, Norman Dunbar via fpc-pascal a écrit :

Good Afternoon.


After a long break, I decided to start work/play on the Sinclair QL FPC
cross compiler.

I noticed that using any release of the vasm assembler, from 1.9
onwards, breaks the "crossall" build. It spits out a number of "warning
1007: scratch at the end of line" errors, then the build fails with 2
errors -- neither of which are displayed.

Reverting back to any of the 1.8 releases, 1.8l (ell) is the latest, and
the build works fine.


I'm pretty sure almost nobody is building the cross compiler for this
particular bit of 1980s hardware, other than myself and a couple of
others, but hopefully this message will be useful to someone. It could
be that the later versions of the assembler are going to break other
M68K systems?

For best results, the 1.8l version of vasm can be obtained from
http://phoenix.owl.de/tags/vasm1_8l.tar.gz and this is the most recent
version of the assembler that will help build the cross compiler.


Cheers,
Norm.



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Re: [fpc-pascal] VASM upgrade to 1.9 breaks cross compiler build

[Norman Dunbar via fpc-pascal]

Hi Pierre,


could you please be a little more specific about the exact version
of the compiler and the make command line you are using?


I'm, on 64 bit Linux Mint 21.1 (Vera) all patches applied.

I'm using the latest Linux x86-64 version of FPC. I have the latest 
source code from gitlab, which appears to be 3.3.1, I run the following 
commands to perform a build:



cd ~/SourceCode/fpc

make clean OS_TARGET=sinclairql CPU_TARGET=m68k

make crossall OS_TARGET=sinclairql CPU_TARGET=m68k


### All on one line!
make crossinstall OS_TARGET=sinclairql CPU_TARGET=m68k 
INSTALL_PREFIX="/home/norman/bin"


I see that you have some options on your make command, which I've never 
had to use in the past when building the compiler. Hang on while I retest...


Nope, still fails.

I rebuilt the assembler with release 1.9c and installed it in the usual 
manner, which has always worked.


When I rebuild the compiler, with a "make clean" followed by a "make 
crossall" as per your command above, it spits out numerous "warning 
1007" messages.


The start of all the problems is this:

make[4]: Entering directory '/data/SourceCode/fpc/rtl/sinclairql'

/usr/bin/mkdir -p /data/SourceCode/fpc/rtl/units/m68k-sinclairql

/data/SourceCode/fpc/compiler/ppcross68k -Ur -Tsinclairql -Pm68k 
-XPm68k-sinclairql- -Ur -Xs -O2 -n -Fi../inc -Fi../m68k -Fim68k -FE. 
-FU/data/SourceCode/fpc/rtl/units/m68k-sinclairql -n -vx -dm68k 
-dRELEASE  -Us -Sg @rtl.cfg system.pp


Executing "/usr/local/bin/m68k-sinclairql-vasmm68k_std" with command 
line "-quiet -elfregs -gas -Felf -m68000 -o 
/data/SourceCode/fpc/rtl/units/m68k-sinclairql/system.o 
/data/SourceCode/fpc/rtl/units/m68k-sinclairql/system.s"


warning 1007 in line 4 of 
"/data/SourceCode/fpc/rtl/units/m68k-sinclairql/system.s": scratch at 
end of line

>.section .text.n_system_$$_mt_frjob$longint$longint,"awx"


... this repeats for aome time up until:


warning 1007 in line 73309 of 
"/data/SourceCode/fpc/rtl/units/m68k-sinclairql/system.s": scratch at 
end of line


>.section .data.n_RTTI_$SYSTEM_$$_QLCONHANDLE,"aw"

system.pp(438) Error: Error while assembling exitcode 1
system.pp(438) Fatal: There were 2 errors compiling module, stopping
Fatal: Compilation aborted

This doesn't happen with the 1.8 releases of vasm. There are no "warning 
1007" messages with that one and everything compiles happily.


With the 1.8x releases, I get this instead:

make[4]: Entering directory '/data/SourceCode/fpc/rtl/sinclairql'

/usr/bin/mkdir -p /data/SourceCode/fpc/rtl/units/m68k-sinclairql

/data/SourceCode/fpc/compiler/ppcross68k -Ur -Tsinclairql -Pm68k 
-XPm68k-sinclairql- -Ur -Xs -O2 -n -Fi../inc -Fi../m68k -Fim68k -FE. 
-FU/data/SourceCode/fpc/rtl/units/m68k-sinclairql -n -vx -dm68k 
-dRELEASE  -Us -Sg @rtl.cfg system.pp


Executing "/usr/local/bin/m68k-sinclairql-vasmm68k_std" with command 
line "-quiet -elfregs -gas -Felf -m68000 -o 
/data/SourceCode/fpc/rtl/units/m68k-sinclairql/system.o 
/data/SourceCode/fpc/rtl/units/m68k-sinclairql/system.s"


It then proceeds to compile the remaining "pp" files.


If it helps, I built the vasm assembler as follows:

wget http://sun.hasenbraten.de/vasm/release/vasm.tar.gz

tar -xzf vasm.tar.gz

cd vasm

make clean CPU=m68k SYNTAX=std

make CPU=m68k SYNTAX=std

sudo cp vasmm68k_std /usr/local/bin/

cd /usr/local/bin

sudo ln -s vasmm68k_std m68k-sinclairql-vasmm68k_std



Cheers,
Norm.

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Re: [fpc-pascal] VASM upgrade to 1.9 breaks cross compiler build

[Pierre Muller via fpc-pascal]

Hi,

I think that my daily tests are using vasm 1.9 for sinclairql,
and I have no problems with them.

could you please be a little more specific about the exact version
of the compiler and the make command line you are using?

I used current trunk compiler with:
muller@gcc186:~/pas/trunk/fpcsrc$ make crossall CPU_TARGET=m68k OS_TARGET=sinclairql 
OPT="-n -vx"

which uses version 1.9c
muller@gcc186:~/pas/trunk/fpcsrc$ /home/muller/bin/m68k-sinclairql-vasmm68k_std
vasm 1.9 (c) in 2002-2022 Volker Barthelmann

And completes successfully:
make[2]: Leaving directory '/home/muller/pas/gitlab-fpc-source'
/usr/bin/echo Build > build-stamp.m68k-sinclairql
/usr/bin/echo Build > base.build-stamp.m68k-sinclairql
make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/muller/pas/gitlab-fpc-source'

Pierre

Le 18/04/2023 à 16:14, Norman Dunbar via fpc-pascal a écrit :

Good Afternoon.


After a long break, I decided to start work/play on the Sinclair QL FPC
cross compiler.

I noticed that using any release of the vasm assembler, from 1.9
onwards, breaks the "crossall" build. It spits out a number of "warning
1007: scratch at the end of line" errors, then the build fails with 2
errors -- neither of which are displayed.

Reverting back to any of the 1.8 releases, 1.8l (ell) is the latest, and
the build works fine.


I'm pretty sure almost nobody is building the cross compiler for this
particular bit of 1980s hardware, other than myself and a couple of
others, but hopefully this message will be useful to someone. It could
be that the later versions of the assembler are going to break other
M68K systems?

For best results, the 1.8l version of vasm can be obtained from
http://phoenix.owl.de/tags/vasm1_8l.tar.gz and this is the most recent
version of the assembler that will help build the cross compiler.


Cheers,
Norm.



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