Re: Typicla auto numbering problem, Frame10 Unstructured

2012-12-28 Thread Lin Sims
Can you send your numbering properties for all the numbered tags? I'm
not sure without looking at them, but I have a feeling that you're
using the same counter position/building block for both the figures
and some of your section numbers.

If you look at this page, Adobe has a nice table about halfway down
the page showing how to set the building blocks up.

http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WSF176D8C8-8133-4860-88E3-AF69262623F0.html

On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 4:22 PM,  ani...@comcast.net wrote:
 Framers,

 Back on Frame after several years of being forced to use inferior products.
 The hang of it is returning, but I have a strange auto numbering issue. Hope
 you can help.

 The figure numbering for the chapter breaks when I add auto numbered figures
 and tables.

 Several files in the book. Each file is actually its own manual, and I want
 the book to see each as a volume (Vol 1, 2, 3, etc.). That's working OK. I
 want each file to start with chapter t after the preliminary pages (Title
 page and TOC). The Book is set up as follows:
 1st file :
 Volume: #1
 Chapter: #1  (If I make this Read from File it doesn't change anything)

 All other files:
 Volume: Continue numbering from previous file in book.
 Chapter: Read from File

 Headings are H:Heading1, H:Heading2, etc.

 If figure format is H:Figuresectionnum\tn+, I get:

 2 Heading
 2.1 Heading
 Figure 1-5
 Figure 1-6
 1.6 Heading
 Figure 1-7
 really messed up

 If figure format is F:Figuren\tn+, I get:
 It does not recognize Heading 1 as n but Heading numbers are not
 influenced by inserting numbers, but the figures do not adopt the section
 number:

 2.3 heading
 Figure 1-3
 Figure 1-4
 2.3.1 Heading
 Figure 1-6

 If figure format is H:Figuren\tn+.\t (as suggested by a post from some
 sight), I get:

 1 Heading
 Figure 0-1
 Figure 0-2
 2 Heading
 Figure 0-3
 2.3 Heading
 Figure 0-4
 2.3.1 Heading
 Figure 0-5

 What should I do to get:

 1 Heading
 Figure 1-1
 1.1 Heading
 Figure 1-2
 2 Heading
 Figure 2-1
 Figure 2-2
 2.1 Heading
 Figure 2-3
 2.1.1 Heading
 Figure 2-4
 and so forth

 Thank you!
 A

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RE: OT: Adobe's Creative Cloud subscription

2012-12-28 Thread David Creamer
I have both the TCS4 and the Adobe Creative Cloud. The Cloud offers so many
features (way beyond the Master Suite) it is hard to say no (of course, that
is Adobe's hope...). 

There are two program that overlap (Acrobat and Illustrator), but I would
use the Cloud versions to get as-they-are-released updates. Watch out for
installing Acrobat XI if you use LiveCycle Designer for forms--it is no
longer included with Acrobat. You can keep Acrobat X installed from the TCS
(you always have the option of not upgrading software from the Cloud).

Unfortunately, the TCS subscription is $69 per month if signing up for the
year; definitely not as good as bargain as the Cloud. I wish Adobe would
offer ALL the programs in the Cloud (but I guess Mac users would be upset
over not being able to use Frame and RoboHelp). I recommend getting the
maintenance plan for the TCS if your purchase method allows it. My plan
covers two years of updates--there will surely be 4.5 and 5 versions. 

David Creamer
IDEAS Training
http://www.ideastraining.com
Adobe Authorized Instructor  Certified Expert since 1995
Authorized QuarkXPress Instructor and Certified Expert since 1988




Fellow Framers, I know that many of  you use other Adobe products in 
addition to Framemaker and I'd like to know your experience if you 
are using Adobe's Creative Cloud subscription for them. I will be 
upgrading from TechCommSuite 2 to TCS4, so the programs that come 
with TCS4 will be taken care of. However, I also use InDesign, 
Freehand, and Photoshop. For $50/month to subscribe to the annual 
plan for Adobe's Creative Cloud, it seems like a bargain to be able 
to maintain current updates to all three of those products plus a 
whole slew of others that I don't currently use. Perhaps I'm 
misunderstanding what they are offering; let me know. And I'm also 
concerned about gotchas that might make me wish I'd never committed 
to a year-long plan that covers so many of the tools that my business 
relies on. What if something goes wrong with one of them?

I'll be making my decision about this in the next week or so and 
would like to hear as many of your stories and experiences as possible.

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Typicla auto numbering problem, Frame10 Unstructured

2012-12-28 Thread Les Smalley
Hi Anirae!

If I read your message corrrectly, you want to have the figure numbers (and 
possibly also table numbers) increment? from 1 within each major section of the 
chapter containing them, and not interfere with or be altered by possible 
multiple levels of sub-sections.? The major section does reset them to start at 
one again.


For this to work, the figures, tables and headings will have to be in the same 
numbered series (e.g. F: or H:) but you also need to use placeholders - the 
empty building block < > (which does not alter, nor show the value) -  for 
counters that should not be affected.

One suggestion is to create a grid of your numbering needs, so you can more 
easily see where you need to use the various types of numbering building block 
- display only (e.g. ), incrementing (e.g. <n+>) or ignoring (< > and note 
the space between the less-than and greater-than symbols)


Here is how I would setup your formats, assuming only three levels of headings 
(as per your example).? I've added a counter for tables as well, so there are 5 
total numbering positions.

H:<n+>??? 1 Heading (increment 1st level heading, reset all 
lower-level numbers: figures,
 tables and sub-headings)


H:-<n+>< >< >< >?? Figure 1-1 (show current heading #, increment figure #, 
don't change table or
? sub-headings)

H:< >< >.<n+>? 1.1 Heading (display current heading #, don't change 
figure or table #,
?? increment 1st subhead and reset lower 
sub-heading)

H:-<n+>< >< >< >?? Figure 1-2

H:<n+>??? 2 Heading 


H:-<n+>< >< >< >?? Figure 2-1


H:.< ><n+>< >< >?? Table 2.1? (show current heading #, don't change figure 
#, increment table #,
? don't change sub-headings)

H:-<n+>< >< >< >?? Figure 2-2


H:< >< >.<n+>? 2.1 Heading


H:-<n+>< >< >< >?? Figure 2-3


H:< >< >..<n+>? 2.1.1 Heading(display current heading #, don't change 
figure or table,
 show 1st subhead and increment lower 
sub-heading)

H:-<n+>< >< >< >?? Figure 2-4

and so forth.? As I'm not completely clear on how you are using either the 
$VolNum or $ChapNum variables (or corresponding numbering building blocks,) I 
have not shown those, and trust that this example will get you on the right 
path fairly quickly.

? Les




 From: "anirae at comcast.net" 
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 4:22 PM
Subject: Typicla auto numbering problem, Frame10 Unstructured


Framers,

Back on Frame after several years of being forced to use inferior products. The 
hang of it is returning, but I have a strange auto numbering issue. Hope you 
can help. 

The figure numbering for the chapter breaks when I add auto numbered figures 
and tables. 

Several files in the book. Each file is actually its own manual, and I want the 
book to see each as a volume (Vol 1, 2, 3, etc.). That's working OK. I want 
each file to start with chapter t after the preliminary pages (Title page and 
TOC). The Book is set up as follows:
1st file : 
Volume: #1
Chapter: #1? (If I make this Read from File it doesn't change anything)

All other files: 
Volume: Continue numbering from previous file in book.
Chapter: Read from File

Headings are H:Heading1, H:Heading2, etc.

If figure format is H:Figure\t<n+>, I get:

2 Heading 
2.1 Heading 
Figure 1-5
Figure 1-6
1.6 Heading
Figure 1-7
really messed up

If figure format is F:Figure\t<n+>, I get:
It does not recognize Heading 1 as  but Heading numbers are not influenced 
by inserting numbers, but the figures do not adopt the section number:

2.3 heading
Figure 1-3
Figure 1-4
2.3.1 Heading
Figure 1-6

If figure format is H:Figure\t<n+><>.\t (as suggested by a post from some 
sight), I get:

1 Heading
Figure 0-1
Figure 0-2
2 Heading
Figure 0-3
2.3 Heading 
Figure 0-4
2.3.1 Heading
Figure 0-5

What should I do to get:

1 Heading
Figure 1-1
1.1 Heading
Figure 1-2
2 Heading
Figure 2-1
Figure 2-2
2.1 Heading
Figure 2-3
2.1.1 Heading
Figure 2-4
and so forth

Thank you!
A
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Typicla auto numbering problem, Frame10 Unstructured

2012-12-28 Thread Lin Sims
Can you send your numbering properties for all the numbered tags? I'm
not sure without looking at them, but I have a feeling that you're
using the same counter position/building block for both the figures
and some of your section numbers.

If you look at this page, Adobe has a nice table about halfway down
the page showing how to set the building blocks up.

http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WSF176D8C8-8133-4860-88E3-AF69262623F0.html

On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 4:22 PM,   wrote:
> Framers,
>
> Back on Frame after several years of being forced to use inferior products.
> The hang of it is returning, but I have a strange auto numbering issue. Hope
> you can help.
>
> The figure numbering for the chapter breaks when I add auto numbered figures
> and tables.
>
> Several files in the book. Each file is actually its own manual, and I want
> the book to see each as a volume (Vol 1, 2, 3, etc.). That's working OK. I
> want each file to start with chapter t after the preliminary pages (Title
> page and TOC). The Book is set up as follows:
> 1st file :
> Volume: #1
> Chapter: #1  (If I make this Read from File it doesn't change anything)
>
> All other files:
> Volume: Continue numbering from previous file in book.
> Chapter: Read from File
>
> Headings are H:Heading1, H:Heading2, etc.
>
> If figure format is H:Figure\t, I get:
>
> 2 Heading
> 2.1 Heading
> Figure 1-5
> Figure 1-6
> 1.6 Heading
> Figure 1-7
> really messed up
>
> If figure format is F:Figure\t, I get:
> It does not recognize Heading 1 as  but Heading numbers are not
> influenced by inserting numbers, but the figures do not adopt the section
> number:
>
> 2.3 heading
> Figure 1-3
> Figure 1-4
> 2.3.1 Heading
> Figure 1-6
>
> If figure format is H:Figure\t<>.\t (as suggested by a post from some
> sight), I get:
>
> 1 Heading
> Figure 0-1
> Figure 0-2
> 2 Heading
> Figure 0-3
> 2.3 Heading
> Figure 0-4
> 2.3.1 Heading
> Figure 0-5
>
> What should I do to get:
>
> 1 Heading
> Figure 1-1
> 1.1 Heading
> Figure 1-2
> 2 Heading
> Figure 2-1
> Figure 2-2
> 2.1 Heading
> Figure 2-3
> 2.1.1 Heading
> Figure 2-4
> and so forth
>
> Thank you!
> A
>
> ___
>
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OT: Adobe's Creative Cloud subscription

2012-12-28 Thread David Creamer
I have both the TCS4 and the Adobe Creative Cloud. The Cloud offers so many
features (way beyond the Master Suite) it is hard to say no (of course, that
is Adobe's hope...). 

There are two program that overlap (Acrobat and Illustrator), but I would
use the Cloud versions to get as-they-are-released updates. Watch out for
installing Acrobat XI if you use LiveCycle Designer for forms--it is no
longer included with Acrobat. You can keep Acrobat X installed from the TCS
(you always have the option of not upgrading software from the Cloud).

Unfortunately, the TCS subscription is $69 per month if signing up for the
year; definitely not as good as bargain as the Cloud. I wish Adobe would
offer ALL the programs in the Cloud (but I guess Mac users would be upset
over not being able to use Frame and RoboHelp). I recommend getting the
maintenance plan for the TCS if your purchase method allows it. My plan
covers two years of updates--there will surely be 4.5 and 5 versions. 

David Creamer
IDEAS Training
http://www.ideastraining.com
Adobe Authorized Instructor & Certified Expert since 1995
Authorized QuarkXPress Instructor and Certified Expert since 1988




Fellow Framers, I know that many of  you use other Adobe products in 
addition to Framemaker and I'd like to know your experience if you 
are using Adobe's Creative Cloud subscription for them. I will be 
upgrading from TechCommSuite 2 to TCS4, so the programs that come 
with TCS4 will be taken care of. However, I also use InDesign, 
Freehand, and Photoshop. For $50/month to subscribe to the annual 
plan for Adobe's Creative Cloud, it seems like a bargain to be able 
to maintain current updates to all three of those products plus a 
whole slew of others that I don't currently use. Perhaps I'm 
misunderstanding what they are offering; let me know. And I'm also 
concerned about gotchas that might make me wish I'd never committed 
to a year-long plan that covers so many of the tools that my business 
relies on. What if something goes wrong with one of them?

I'll be making my decision about this in the next week or so and 
would like to hear as many of your stories and experiences as possible.