Re: [Framers] SOLVED: RE: Table Title gets dropped on save as xml

2017-02-15 Thread Alan Houser
For the record, I've been bitten by this several times over the years. It's annoying that FrameMaker makes assumptions about the XML document content model based on element names. Although it's only true in a small number of cases; still, an element name should be just a string. Element typing

[Framers] SOLVED: RE: Table Title gets dropped on save as xml

2017-02-15 Thread Rick Quatro
Thanks to Alan Houser for pointing out these posts by Lynne Price: http://lists.ceph.com/pipermail/framers-frameusers.com/2006-December/005568. html https://forums.adobe.com/thread/632726 I tried renaming tgroup to t-group and it solved the problem; I now get my table title in the XML. Thanks

Re: [Framers] Table Title gets dropped on save as xml

2017-02-15 Thread Scott Prentice
Or is your DTD excluding content there? I assume you're not getting any useful error messages? ...scott On 2/15/17 3:07 PM, Ian Proudfoot wrote: Rick Do you perhaps have non-standard structure API client referenced in your Structapps.fm file? Ian -Original Message- From: Framers

Re: [Framers] Table Title gets dropped on save as xml

2017-02-15 Thread Ian Proudfoot
Rick Do you perhaps have non-standard structure API client referenced in your Structapps.fm file? Ian -Original Message- From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+ian.proudfoot=itp-x.co...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Rick Quatro Sent: 15 February 2017 22:21 To: 'An email list for

Re: [Framers] Table Title gets dropped on save as xml

2017-02-15 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Tino, It doesn't seem to matter what I name the element or whether or not I use RW rules. I don't get the Table Title element or content in the XML. Rick -Original Message- From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tino H. Haida

Re: [Framers] Conditional and Shared Text - Determining Percentages

2017-02-15 Thread Craig, Alison
Thanks guys. I was kind of hoping someone knew of a utility :-((( But with the "hide" suggestion, I can certainly figure how much shared content there is. Alison From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+acraig=bkultrasound@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Lin Sims Sent: Wednesday,

Re: [Framers] Table Title gets dropped on save as xml

2017-02-15 Thread Tino H. Haida
Hi Rick, maybe FM sees "caption" as a reserved element name. What happens if you try with a slightly different name? Why don't you use simply "Title" for the table title (which FM interprets as table title directly without r/w rule). Rick Quatro: > I mocked up a simple structured application

Re: [Framers] Conditional and Shared Text - Determining Percentages

2017-02-15 Thread Scott Prentice
Yeah .. that's where I was trying to go .. even if it wasn't described properly. :-) ...scott On 2/15/17 2:14 PM, Lin Sims wrote: Scott, I don't think that will work as stated. She's trying to figure out how much is the same across files, and this doesn't really tell her if the information

Re: [Framers] Table Title gets dropped on save as xml

2017-02-15 Thread Rick Quatro
I mocked up a simple structured application to try to isolate the problem. I am not using any transform with this one. Whether I use my application or not, whatever element I specify as the Table Title element gets dropped on export to XML. -Original Message- From: Framers

Re: [Framers] Conditional and Shared Text - Determining Percentages

2017-02-15 Thread Lin Sims
Scott, I don't think that will work as stated. She's trying to figure out how much is the same across files, and this doesn't really tell her if the information is the same, just that one has more characters than another. On the other hand, if she adds a step to HIDE all of the text that is

Re: [Framers] Conditional and Shared Text - Determining Percentages

2017-02-15 Thread Scott Prentice
Alison... Since no one else jumped on this with a "good" solution .. here's my hack option. 1) Set the conditional state (hide/show) to show all (or whatever is one state of content you want to measure). 2) Run the .. File > Utilities > Document Reports > Character Count .. command. Note

Re: [Framers] Table Title gets dropped on save as xml

2017-02-15 Thread Scott Prentice
Hmm .. strange. Just a stretch, but is the default for the table's format set to "No Title"? ...scott On 2/15/17 1:32 PM, Rick Quatro wrote: Also, when I save to XML with no application, the table title ( element) still gets dropped from the xml. -Original Message- From: Framers

Re: [Framers] Table Title gets dropped on save as xml

2017-02-15 Thread Rick Quatro
Also, when I save to XML with no application, the table title ( element) still gets dropped from the xml. -Original Message- From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Scott Prentice Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 4:02 PM To:

Re: [Framers] Table Title gets dropped on save as xml

2017-02-15 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Scott, Yes, it is in the right place; it is a "real" table title. For some reason, it is getting dropped on the way to XML. I am using a post transform, but if I run the transform by hand in Oxygen, the survives. Thanks. Rick -Original Message- From: Framers

Re: [Framers] Table Title gets dropped on save as xml

2017-02-15 Thread Scott Prentice
Rick... Is your in a location that makes it a valid "table title" from the FM perspective? That is .. it's actually in the FM table object structure, not like a DITA table where the is outside the table object's structure? I've seen this cause strangeness when you call it a "table title"

[Framers] Table Title gets dropped on save as xml

2017-02-15 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi All, I have a structured application where my table titles are elements. I have set up as a Table Title in my EDD/template and I have this RW rule: element "caption" is fm table title element; When I save as XML using my structured application, the element gets dropped and

[Framers] Conditional and Shared Text - Determining Percentages

2017-02-15 Thread Craig, Alison
- Frame 12 - unstructured - Windows 7 64 bit Does anyone know if there is a way to figure out what percentage of text in a book is shared? Even better would be a way figure out how much text is conditional based on the mix of conditions applied to the text. My conditions are mostly to do