Re: [Framers] I'm pretty sure the answer is structured content

2016-08-03 Thread Writer
.hsbc@lists.frameusers.com>; Lin Sims <ljsims...@gmail.com>; Pat Christenson <pat.christen...@morningstar.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2016 2:22 PM Subject: Re: [Framers] I'm pretty sure the answer is structured content Sometimes ya fight. Sometimes ya don't John X

Re: [Framers] I'm pretty sure the answer is structured content

2016-08-03 Thread john . x . posada
<ljsims...@gmail.com> Cc: "framers@lists.frameusers.com" <framers@lists.frameusers.com> Date: 08/03/2016 02:20 PM Subject: Re: [Framers] I'm pretty sure the answer is structured content Sent by:"Framers" Yes. No point in being

Re: [Framers] I'm pretty sure the answer is structured content

2016-08-03 Thread Writer
] I'm pretty sure the answer is structured content Thanks for the reminder! From: Lin Sims [mailto:ljsims...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 4:11 PM To: Pat Christenson <pat.christen...@morningstar.com> Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: [Framers] I'm pretty sure the

Re: [Framers] I'm pretty sure the answer is structured content

2016-08-02 Thread Pat Christenson
Thanks for the reminder! From: Lin Sims [mailto:ljsims...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 4:11 PM To: Pat Christenson <pat.christen...@morningstar.com> Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: [Framers] I'm pretty sure the answer is structured content Just don't forget t

Re: [Framers] I'm pretty sure the answer is structured content

2016-08-02 Thread Lin Sims
ly 29, 2016 3:21 PM > To: framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Re: [Framers] I'm pretty sure the answer is structured content > > > Fine, you all can have the last word. I know better than to continue this > debate. I should have known better than to even start it. > > Russ >

Re: [Framers] I'm pretty sure the answer is structured content

2016-08-02 Thread Pat Christenson
Of r...@weststreetconsulting.com Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 3:21 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: [Framers] I'm pretty sure the answer is structured content Fine, you all can have the last word. I know better than to continue this debate. I should have known better than to even

Re: [Framers] I'm pretty sure the answer is structured content

2016-07-29 Thread russ
uot;framers@lists.frameusers.com" Subject: Re: [Framers] I'm pretty sure the answer is structured content Message-ID: <can3yy4a5zr2tzurjgsnbhouxzt6ytpfovsuek3au-cr1a8y...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Structured markup has been around longer than the web, PDFs, online help,

Re: [Framers] I'm pretty sure the answer is structured content

2016-07-29 Thread Pat Christenson
e- From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+pat.christenson=morningstar@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of r...@weststreetconsulting.com Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 3:01 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: [Framers] I'm pretty sure the answer is structured content Pat

Re: [Framers] I'm pretty sure the answer is structured content

2016-07-28 Thread Alan Litchfield
Reiterating what John and Robert said. I too often see people who love their technology and see it as the solution to every problem. When all you have is a hammer, then everything looks like a nail. There are very good reasons for unstructured content, that can just as easily be marked up

Re: [Framers] I'm pretty sure the answer is structured content

2016-07-28 Thread Robert Lauriston
Structured markup has been around longer than the web, PDFs, online help, or personal computers. Since you make your living from structured content, I'm not going to waste time explaining why it's not the best choice for every set of requirements, and why people are still creating interesting and

Re: [Framers] I'm pretty sure the answer is structured content

2016-07-28 Thread john . x . posada
to! From: John X Posada/HBUS/HSBC@HSBC02 To: <r...@weststreetconsulting.com> Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com, Framers Date: 07/28/2016 04:14 PM Subject: Re: [Framers] I'm pretty sure the answer is structured content Sent by:"Framers" I dis

Re: [Framers] I'm pretty sure the answer is structured content

2016-07-28 Thread john . x . posada
only print this if you have to! From: <r...@weststreetconsulting.com> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Date: 07/28/2016 04:01 PM Subject: Re: [Framers] I'm pretty sure the

Re: [Framers] I'm pretty sure the answer is structured content

2016-07-28 Thread Ed Nodland
I guess you are suggesting that "short term solution" is an oxymoron. Short term patch, short term fix, but a solution implies long term. The use of the words patch or fix, communicates to the customer that they need to start thinking long term. On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 1:01 PM,

Re: [Framers] I'm pretty sure the answer is structured content

2016-07-28 Thread russ
Pat, I'd like to assert that structured content is generally THE answer, period. Nothing interesting happens with unstructured content anymore, because the technology is decades old. Any technical writer in a high-demand environment should be using structured content. If you are not, you are now

[Framers] I'm pretty sure the answer is structured content with DITA but I'll ask anyway

2016-07-27 Thread Norton, Michael
I worked in an environment that sounds somewhat similar to your's for a few years. I produced "comprehensive" Release Letters that sometimes reached 300 pages. Each new feature was discussed in its entirety and I was also the lone writer. I argued against that approach, but I did not win that

Re: [Framers] I'm pretty sure the answer is structured content with DITA but I'll ask anyway (LONG)

2016-07-26 Thread Robert Lauriston
Take a look at Paligo. It gives you structured authoring (DocBook), a CMS, and reuse in a single package without having to hire a developer to build a custom system. On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 3:20 PM, Pat Christenson wrote: > I'm the only tech writer in my group.

[Framers] I'm pretty sure the answer is structured content with DITA but I'll ask anyway (LONG)

2016-07-26 Thread Pat Christenson
I'm the only tech writer in my group. Everyone else is a trainer/presenter (although they do quite a bit of writing). Our software has numerous components, each on its own release track. At the end of each month, I post extensive release notes on EVERYTHING from the month (written in