Usage of WebWorks (ePublisher)

2009-04-19 Thread st...@siliconprairiesoftware.com
I can't resist either. I must bring closure to part of this thread, just in case somebody has a time machine accident or stumbles into a worm-hole and finds themself back in 1986. :-) There were several ways to eject a disk on a Mac. 1) Select the disk icon and choose Put Away. 2) Select the disk

RE: Usage of WebWorks (ePublisher)

2009-04-18 Thread Richard Melanson
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McDaniel Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 5:54 AM To: Jeremy H. Griffith; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Usage of WebWorks (ePublisher) If the client is merely trying to save money by using a free tool, we'll *give* her a copy of Mif2Go

Re: Usage of WebWorks (ePublisher)

2009-04-18 Thread steve
I can't resist either. I must bring closure to part of this thread, just in case somebody has a time machine accident or stumbles into a worm-hole and finds themself back in 1986. :-) There were several ways to eject a disk on a Mac. 1) Select the disk icon and choose Put Away. 2) Select the disk

RE: Usage of WebWorks (ePublisher)

2009-04-17 Thread Kelly McDaniel
Sent: Thu 4/16/2009 6:46 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Usage of WebWorks (ePublisher) On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 11:13:06 -0400, Jim Owens jow...@magma.ca wrote: Nancy mentioned that her client insists on Webworks 7, so all other options are moot. Without knowing anything about

Re: Re: Usage of WebWorks (ePublisher)

2009-04-17 Thread Nancy Allison
Jeremy wrote: I just checked in the FM7 book Sarah O'Keefe wrote, and it appears Webworks *Standard*, the one Nancy was required to use, does not even support HTML Help at all. You'd have to use the regular HTML output, then create the index, toc, project file, alias and map files by hand,

Re: Re: Usage of WebWorks (ePublisher)

2009-04-17 Thread Lin Sims
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Nancy Allison ma...@verizon.net wrote: I see so many things I could make so much better if I had the time and the right tools, but alas, it is not to be. But wait! Jeremy wrote: If the client is merely trying to save money by using a free tool, we'll

Re: Re: Usage of WebWorks (ePublisher)

2009-04-17 Thread Yves Barbion
Just charge them the time you spend (waste) on doing the job without the right tools. I'm sure you will come up with a figure which is a multiple of the price of MIF2Go (or even WebWorks ePublisher). Both MIF2Go and WebWorks ePublisher are GREAT value for money. There is no such thing as a free

Re: Usage of WebWorks (ePublisher)

2009-04-17 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 08:37:06 -0500 (CDT), Nancy Allison ma...@verizon.net wrote: Jeremy, do you really mean it? I would be thrilled. Of course I mean it! The next two posts will contain the password and download instructions. (But we won't CC the list with those, sorry folks! If you're an

RE: Usage of WebWorks (ePublisher)

2009-04-17 Thread David Spreadbury
Patrick, My opinion, and experience, with Mif2Go is just the opposite. I have been using Mif2Go for several years and have learned how to use the User's Guide. Yes, it takes a while to find things, sometimes, but this is because Mif2Go can do a lot. If you install Mif2Go and just take the

Re: Usage of WebWorks (ePublisher)

2009-04-17 Thread Art Campbell
I'd second David's opinion and experience. And as a beneficiary of one of Jeremy's free licenses during the last tech crunch, it gave me a new tool and skill set and resulted in a steady string of license purchases from companies that I've worked for since then. Good product, great support, and

Re: Usage of WebWorks (ePublisher)

2009-04-17 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 10:32:12 -0600, Patrick Fortino pxfo...@gmail.com wrote: But imagine it's 1986 and you are in a computer store looking at computers. I can't resist. ;-) In 1986, I was working at a company that had pretty much standardized on Macs. People loved them. I had one of the

Re: Usage of WebWorks (ePublisher)

2009-04-17 Thread Writer
Tell us another story from the old days, Grandpa. Nadine, who also could not resist ;-) Jeremy H. Griffith wrote: On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 10:32:12 -0600, Patrick Fortino pxfo...@gmail.com wrote: But imagine it's 1986 and you are in a computer store looking at computers. I can't

Re: Usage of WebWorks (ePublisher)

2009-04-17 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 20:15:42 -0400, Writer generic...@yahoo.ca wrote: Tell us another story from the old days, Grandpa. Nadine, who also could not resist ;-) LOL! Actually, I may get to be a great-grandpa soon, if my grandson gets married as young as I did... vbg And you *don't* want to get

Re: Usage of WebWorks (ePublisher)

2009-04-17 Thread Writer
True. At least not until I get a bag of marshmallows and a pointed stick. =D *scampers off* Nadine And you *don't* want to get me started... ;-) -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc. jer...@omsys.com http://www.omsys.com/ ___ You

Usage of WebWorks (ePublisher)

2009-04-17 Thread Kelly McDaniel
n behalf of Jeremy H. Griffith Sent: Thu 4/16/2009 6:46 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Usage of WebWorks (ePublisher) On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 11:13:06 -0400, Jim Owens wrote: >Nancy mentioned that her client insists on Webworks 7, so all other >options are moot. > &g

Usage of WebWorks (ePublisher)

2009-04-17 Thread Nancy Allison
Jeremy wrote: > I just checked in the FM7 book Sarah O'Keefe wrote, and it > appears Webworks *Standard*, the one Nancy was "required" > to use, does not even support HTML Help at all. You'd have > to use the regular HTML output, then create the index, toc, > project file, alias and map files

Usage of WebWorks (ePublisher)

2009-04-17 Thread Lin Sims
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Nancy Allison wrote: > I see so many things I could make so much better if I had the time and the > right tools, but alas, it is not to be. > > But wait! Jeremy wrote: > >> If the client is merely trying to save money by using a >> "free" tool, we'll *give* her

Usage of WebWorks (ePublisher)

2009-04-17 Thread Yves Barbion
Just charge "them" the time you spend (waste) on doing the job without the right tools. I'm sure you will come up with a figure which is a multiple of the price of MIF2Go (or even WebWorks ePublisher). Both MIF2Go and WebWorks ePublisher are GREAT value for money. There is no such thing as a free

Usage of WebWorks (ePublisher)

2009-04-17 Thread Patrick Fortino
Opinions are like... noses. Everyone has one, but some are bigger than others. I respectfully disagree with SOME of the webworks bashing. - It's true that Webworks has the worst support...on the planet. In fact, I wouldn't even call it support. Example, if you have trouble installing

Usage of WebWorks (ePublisher)

2009-04-17 Thread Writer
I'm surprised with your install comments. I had no problem installing the last version of ePub, and I had two versions of FM on my computer. Do you mean updates or fresh installation? I've never had to call about support, but WW is pretty responsive to questions on the Yahoo wwp user group.

Usage of WebWorks (ePublisher)

2009-04-17 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 08:37:06 -0500 (CDT), Nancy Allison wrote: >Jeremy, do you really mean it? I would be thrilled. Of course I mean it! The next two posts will contain the password and download instructions. (But we won't CC the list with those, sorry folks! If you're an unemployed TW,

Usage of WebWorks (ePublisher)

2009-04-17 Thread David Spreadbury
Patrick, My opinion, and experience, with Mif2Go is just the opposite. I have been using Mif2Go for several years and have learned how to use the User's Guide. Yes, it takes a while to find things, sometimes, but this is because Mif2Go can do a lot. If you install Mif2Go and just take the

Usage of WebWorks (ePublisher)

2009-04-17 Thread Art Campbell
I'd second David's opinion and experience. And as a beneficiary of one of Jeremy's free licenses during the last tech crunch, it gave me a new tool and skill set and resulted in a steady string of license purchases from companies that I've worked for since then. Good product, great support, and

Usage of WebWorks (ePublisher)

2009-04-17 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 10:32:12 -0600, Patrick Fortino wrote: >But imagine it's 1986 and you are in a computer store looking at >computers. I can't resist. ;-) In 1986, I was working at a company that had pretty much standardized on Macs. People loved them. I had one of the older DOS boxes,

Usage of WebWorks (ePublisher)

2009-04-17 Thread Writer
Tell us another story from the old days, Grandpa. Nadine, who also could not resist ;-) Jeremy H. Griffith wrote: > On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 10:32:12 -0600, Patrick Fortino > wrote: > > >> But imagine it's 1986 and you are in a computer store looking at >> computers. >> > > I can't resist.

Usage of WebWorks (ePublisher)

2009-04-17 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 20:15:42 -0400, Writer wrote: >Tell us another story from the old days, Grandpa. > >Nadine, who also could not resist ;-) LOL! Actually, I may get to be a great-grandpa soon, if my grandson gets married as young as I did... And you *don't* want to get me started... ;-)

Usage of WebWorks (ePublisher)

2009-04-17 Thread Writer
True. At least not until I get a bag of marshmallows and a pointed stick. =D *scampers off* Nadine > And you *don't* want to get me started... ;-) > > -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc. > http://www.omsys.com/ > >

Usage of WebWorks (ePublisher)

2009-04-17 Thread Richard Melanson
lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McDaniel Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 5:54 AM To: Jeremy H. Griffith; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Usage of WebWorks (ePublisher) "If the client is merely trying to save money by using a "free&

Re: Usage of WebWorks (ePublisher)

2009-04-16 Thread Joseph Lorenzini
Hi Nancy, I would recommend purchasing the technical communications suite 2.0 and then using RoboHelp to create your help system. RoboHelp has built-in functionality to import FrameMaker books directly into RoboHelp projects and then generate HTML files from the Frame files in the book. I have

Re: Usage of WebWorks (ePublisher)

2009-04-16 Thread Jim Owens
Nancy mentioned that her client insists on Webworks 7, so all other options are moot. Without knowing anything about the situation, I'd still venture that it's not in her client's interest to use something that's been discontinued. Can they be talked into a more sensible decision? Joseph

Re: Usage of WebWorks (ePublisher)

2009-04-16 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 11:13:06 -0400, Jim Owens jow...@magma.ca wrote: Nancy mentioned that her client insists on Webworks 7, so all other options are moot. Without knowing anything about the situation, I'd still venture that it's not in her client's interest to use something that's been

Usage of WebWorks (ePublisher)

2009-04-16 Thread Joseph Lorenzini
Hi Nancy, I would recommend purchasing the technical communications suite 2.0 and then using RoboHelp to create your help system. RoboHelp has built-in functionality to import FrameMaker books directly into RoboHelp projects and then generate HTML files from the Frame files in the book. I have

Usage of WebWorks (ePublisher)

2009-04-16 Thread Jim Owens
Nancy mentioned that her client insists on Webworks 7, so all other options are moot. Without knowing anything about the situation, I'd still venture that it's not in her client's interest to use something that's been discontinued. Can they be talked into a more sensible decision? Joseph

Usage of WebWorks (ePublisher)

2009-04-16 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 11:13:06 -0400, Jim Owens wrote: >Nancy mentioned that her client insists on Webworks 7, so all other >options are moot. > >Without knowing anything about the situation, I'd still venture that >it's not in her client's interest to use something that's been >discontinued.

Usage of WebWorks (ePublisher)

2009-04-15 Thread Nancy Allison
Sorry for sloppy subject line in my previous post. Here it is again, slightly improved: At this late date, I am getting my first chance to use Webworks Standard Edition 7.0 to create HTML Help. Out of curiosity, is WebWorks still in common use? Has it been surpassed by other tools? I'm

Re: Usage of WebWorks (ePublisher)

2009-04-15 Thread Art Campbell
WW hasn't shipped with Frame for two releases; the publishers have changed the name and product significantly with ePublisher. And as far as Standard WW goes, it doesn't support modified templates, so it's of limited usefulness. And I don't think it was ever in common use -- it was a freebie from

RE: Usage of WebWorks (ePublisher)

2009-04-15 Thread John Sgammato
...@frameusers.com Subject: Usage of WebWorks (ePublisher) Sorry for sloppy subject line in my previous post. Here it is again, slightly improved: At this late date, I am getting my first chance to use Webworks Standard Edition 7.0 to create HTML Help. Out of curiosity, is WebWorks still

Re: Usage of WebWorks (ePublisher)

2009-04-15 Thread Zoe Lawson
ePublisher. You can contact me off list if you have other questions. Zoƫ Lawson From: Nancy Allison ma...@verizon.net Cc: fram...@frameusers.com Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 9:38:25 AM Subject: Usage of WebWorks (ePublisher) Sorry for sloppy subject line in my

Re: Usage of WebWorks (ePublisher)

2009-04-15 Thread Writer
(and it meets my expectations of how it should work), we'll eat like kings (*nyuck*). Nadine --- On Wed, 4/15/09, Zoe Lawson messalin...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Zoe Lawson messalin...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Usage of WebWorks (ePublisher) To: Nancy Allison ma...@verizon.net Cc: fram

Re: Usage of WebWorks (ePublisher)

2009-04-15 Thread Jim Owens
I second John's views, and to some extent Zoe's. Mif2GO is a great tool, and it's priced right. If you want to pay a lot more, you could consider ePublisher. People seem to like it, and XML-based publishing is definitely the way of the future. WWP 7 Standard Edition is obsolete. Don't waste

Re: Re: Usage of WebWorks (ePublisher)

2009-04-15 Thread Nancy Allison
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Usage of WebWorks (ePublisher)

2009-04-15 Thread Nancy Allison
Sorry for sloppy subject line in my previous post. Here it is again, slightly improved: At this late date, I am getting my first chance to use Webworks Standard Edition 7.0 to create HTML Help. Out of curiosity, is WebWorks still in common use? Has it been surpassed by other tools? I'm

Usage of WebWorks (ePublisher)

2009-04-15 Thread Art Campbell
WW hasn't shipped with Frame for two releases; the publishers have changed the name and product significantly with ePublisher. And as far as Standard WW goes, it doesn't support modified templates, so it's of limited usefulness. And I don't think it was ever in common use -- it was a freebie from

Usage of WebWorks (ePublisher)

2009-04-15 Thread John Sgammato
at frameusers.com Subject: Usage of WebWorks (ePublisher) Sorry for sloppy subject line in my previous post. Here it is again, slightly improved: At this late date, I am getting my first chance to use Webworks Standard Edition 7.0 to create HTML Help. Out of curiosity, is WebWorks still

Usage of WebWorks (ePublisher)

2009-04-15 Thread Zoe Lawson
ePublisher. You can contact me off list if you have other questions. Zo? Lawson From: Nancy Allison <ma...@verizon.net> Cc: framers at frameusers.com Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 9:38:25 AM Subject: Usage of WebWorks (ePublisher) Sorry for sloppy subjec

Usage of WebWorks (ePublisher)

2009-04-15 Thread Writer
(and it meets my expectations of how it should work), we'll eat like kings (*nyuck*). Nadine --- On Wed, 4/15/09, Zoe Lawson wrote: > From: Zoe Lawson > Subject: Re: Usage of WebWorks (ePublisher) > To: "Nancy Allison" > Cc: framers at frameusers.com > Received: Wednesday

Usage of WebWorks (ePublisher)

2009-04-15 Thread Jim Owens
I second John's views, and to some extent Zoe's. Mif2GO is a great tool, and it's priced right. If you want to pay a lot more, you could consider ePublisher. People seem to like it, and XML-based publishing is definitely the way of the future. WWP 7 Standard Edition is obsolete. Don't waste

Usage of WebWorks (ePublisher)

2009-04-15 Thread Nancy Allison