Re: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

2010-06-03 Thread Steve Johnson
Where do you want to start? If you want professional documentation do not use Word, do not even think about it. Word cannot handle cross-references, there are various anomalies when converting Word to PDF. Word has had a bug since 2.0 such that if you put a hard page break directly in front of a

Re: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

2010-06-03 Thread Steve Johnson
... and lest I forget, numbered lists are a NIGHTMARE in Word, effortless in Frame. On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Steve Johnson chinask...@gmail.com wrote: Where do you want to start? If you want professional documentation do not use Word, do not even think about it. Word cannot handle

Re: Active Areas from Frame-Generated Index(es)

2010-06-03 Thread Berny Gagne
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that the default behaviour for Index pages? Who wants the link to be active for the text as well when you have several pages for the same text entry? The idea is to have only the page number active as a link. Berny Gagne On 1 Jun 2010, at 9:43 PM, Eduardo F.

Is it possible to Save As PDF from FrameMaker 9 using Acrobat 7 on Windows7?

2010-06-03 Thread Ursula McCloy
Hi, We have recently upgraded to Windows7, 64-bit, and were also able to upgrade to FrameMaker9. We have not yet committed to upgrading our Acrobat 7 licenses (bundled with CS2; to upgrade that is ~$700 - a tad steep for our tastes). While we are pleased with our FM9 upgrade in general, we are

Re: Acrobat 9 Frustrations...

2010-06-03 Thread Steve Johnson
I have PDFd books using Frame 8 and Acrobat 9 on Windows 7. On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Chris Despopoulos despopoulos_chr...@yahoo.com wrote: Yet again. I know this has been discussed, but I can't seem to find it in my searches. I have FrameMaker 8 and Acrobat 9 Pro.  I'm trying to move

Re: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

2010-06-03 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
As far as: Word has had a bug since 2.0 such that if you put a hard page break directly in front of a heading and then cross-reference to that heading, Word inserts a hard page break in front of the cross-reference. In Word, a cross-reference refers to a bookmark. A bookmark is a selection of

Re: Is it possible to Save As PDF from FrameMaker 9 using Acrobat 7 on Windows7?

2010-06-03 Thread Art Campbell
A couple of answers, cut in below. Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply.

Re: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

2010-06-03 Thread Writer
Most of the Frame deficiencies listed here seem rather minor to me (probably because I don't need word count, reading level, outline, etc) compared to its strengths, especially stability. I don't want to start another I hate Word debate, but I don't like to use Word for any document that is

RE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

2010-06-03 Thread Lea Rush
Well, I wouldn't call them effortless, but I do call them rock-solid. Frame doesn't try to guess what you want, and Word's numbering system broke my 50 - 60 page documents at least twice a year, requiring a week's repair time. The day spent setting up my elaborate numbering system has saved me at

RE: Acrobat 9 Frustrations...

2010-06-03 Thread Dov Isaacs
Whatever problem you are experiencing has nothing to do with Windows 7 or Acrobat 9, but probably relates to problems with FrameMaker 8. For the record, the hotfix is for Windows XP and Vista only. Windows 7 already is fixed for the issues for which the hotfix applied. Furthermore, the issue

Re: Is it possible to Save As PDF from FrameMaker 9 using Acrobat 7 on Windows7?

2010-06-03 Thread Art Campbell
OK, if you run the installation program in Windows XP compatibility mode, it doesn't have anything at all to do with what the Acrobat program actually does or what it works with when it's running. The installation program just installs. Period. It doesn't control what can or cannot use the virtual

RE: Is it possible to Save As PDF from FrameMaker 9 using Acrobat 7 on Windows7?

2010-06-03 Thread Alison Craig
A quick look at Adobe's site yields the following - so I wouldn't waste my time on the phone with Adobe. As I have Adobe CS2 (Acrobat 7) I have yet another reason to resist the change to Windows 7. Yeah! Alison What about older versions of Acrobat and Windows 7? If you own Acrobat 6,

RE: Is it possible to Save As PDF from FrameMaker 9 using Acrobat 7 on Windows7?

2010-06-03 Thread Dov Isaacs
Acrobat 7 does not support any version of Windows beyond Windows XP and certainly NOT any 64-bit version of Windows. With all due respect, if you are considering upgrades of operating system and hardware (such as more memory than can be supported by a 32-bit OS), you should consider the FULL cost

Setting PDF Custom Properties from Structured FrameMaker

2010-06-03 Thread Graham, Jasmine S
Fellow Framers, My setup is TCS1 on Windows XP (Frame 8.0, structured, with Adobe 9.0 Pro Extended). I need to set up custom properties in the PDF (Document Properties Custom Tab). I want to create these properties as attributes in the Frame book file so that I can automatically write them

paragraph tag report?

2010-06-03 Thread Lidington, Ellen L
Is there a way to generate a report that lists paragraph tags and their definitions? If no, has anyone come up with a way to get this information? My team is using version 7.1 on Windows. Thanks. Ellen Ellen Lidington Documentation Lead Ingenix 950 Winter Street, Suite 3800,

Re: Is it possible to Save As PDF from FrameMaker 9 using Acrobat 7 on Windows7?

2010-06-03 Thread Ursula McCloy
Thanks, Art :). While I thought I was explaining myself clearly, your questions made me realize that in fact I did not! Ah, the value of a peer review... 1) I have a brand-spanking-new machine with Windows7 64-bit on it. 2) We installed our new FM9 license. All works well. 3)

ARE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

2010-06-03 Thread Tim J. Slager
Frame is clunky; Word is quirky. I have to agree numbered lists are Word's Achilles heal, although I can (usually) get them to work. I worked for 10 years at a company where we used Word to create professional documentation with page counts reaching into the thousands with very consistent

extra pages

2010-06-03 Thread Layton, Debbie
I've been using FM for nearly ten years, but recently had to relearn it after a couple of years away from it. We are using Frame 7. One of my documents has several extra pages at the end that I can't get rid of. There seems to be an extra end-of-flow symbol floating near the end. There is only

RE: paragraph tag report?

2010-06-03 Thread Spectrum Writing
http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/ The Paragraph tools plugin. works like a charm and gives you exactly what you're asking for in your email. TVB Tammy Van Boening Owner/Principal Spectrum Writing, LLC www.spectrumwritingllc.com i...@spectrumwritingllc.com -Original Message- From:

Re: ARE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

2010-06-03 Thread Alan T Litchfield
On 4/06/2010, at 5:35 AM, Tim J. Slager wrote: I worked for 10 years at a company where we used Word to create professional documentation with page counts reaching into the thousands with very consistent template styles and rare file corruption. We had the advantage of a developer who

RE: ARE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

2010-06-03 Thread Fred Ridder
Alan T Litchfield wrote: On 4/06/2010, at 5:35 AM, Tim J. Slager wrote: I worked for 10 years at a company where we used Word to create professional documentation with page counts reaching into the thousands with very consistent template styles and rare file corruption. We had

Re: paragraph tag report?

2010-06-03 Thread Stuart Rogers
On 03/06/2010 10:29 AM, Lidington, Ellen L wrote: Is there a way to generate a report that lists paragraph tags and their definitions? If no, has anyone come up with a way to get this information? My team is using version 7.1 on Windows. MIF Muncher: http://www.stc-carolina.org/MIF+Muncher

RE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

2010-06-03 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Tim, As Fred pointed out, there are tons of things you can do with FrameScript or the FDK. I am partial to FrameScript because I make my living writing them, but you can really make FrameMaker fly with FrameScript automation. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-659-8267

Re: paragraph tag report?

2010-06-03 Thread Mike Wickham
The Format List plugin, part of the Squidds Toolbox is the best at this. Unlike the other suggestions, it puts the results in a table, so that you can look at all your paragraph formats in a glance. Scanning a row will tell you the definition of a given tag. Scanning a column will compare the

RE: ARE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

2010-06-03 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Alan Litchfield wrote: On 4/06/2010, at 5:35 AM, Tim J. Slager wrote: I worked for 10 years at a company where we used Word to create professional documentation with page counts reaching into the thousands with very consistent template styles and rare file corruption. We had the

Thank you for the help!

2010-06-03 Thread Layton, Debbie
Thanks for the responses to my blank pages quandary. I received several responses, and got the problem fixed. And ran into several people I already knew, too! Debbie Layton Technical Writer Customer Publications 503.582.6822 debbie.lay...@xerox.com

RE: Setting PDF Custom Properties from Structured FrameMaker

2010-06-03 Thread Michael Pearson
Hi Jasmine, You can do this with a Postscript Code text frame containing a pdfmark operator. A Postscript Code text frame is just a regular text frame that has the Postscript Code property set from the Object Properties dialog. When that checkbox is selected, any text in the frame is

RE: Setting PDF Custom Properties from Structured FrameMaker

2010-06-03 Thread Rick Quatro
Yes, and with FrameScript, you can automate the process of getting the correct values from the document's structure and creating the PostScript text frame. You can have the script run automatically whenever you save the document or book as PDF. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-659-8267

Adobe TCS 2 conditional text question

2010-06-03 Thread Bill Swallow
I am at a loss with regard to conditional text handling in TCS 2. My specific project: FM file with multiple conditions FM files are set with the desired show/hide settings applied from book level down. FM files are LINKED in RH (not imported) RH has mirror condition markers created RH has Apply

Re: Adobe TCS 2 conditional text question

2010-06-03 Thread Bill Swallow
I figured it out, finally. Details here: http://techcommdood.com/?p=408 On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 9:29 PM, Bill Swallow techcommd...@gmail.com wrote: I am at a loss with regard to conditional text handling in TCS 2. My specific project: FM file with multiple conditions FM files are set with the

PDF Size Optimization

2010-06-03 Thread Garnier Garnier
Hi Listers,   I am using Framemaker 7.0.   Recently received a two-page FM file – it is a cover page with logo and copyright. The copyright is a text inset. Not sure as to which FM version was used to create this file. The company that sent the file too is not aware of the version used.   After

Re: PDF Size Optimization

2010-06-03 Thread Gary Bankston
If this is urgent, why not just put a hyperlink into the cover page after the pdf is created? On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 8:55 PM, Garnier Garnier garnier_framescr...@yahoo.co.in wrote: Hi Listers, I am using Framemaker 7.0. Recently received a two-page FM file – it is a cover page with logo

Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

2010-06-03 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
As far as: "Word has had a bug since 2.0 such that if you put a hard page break directly in front of a heading and then cross-reference to that heading, Word inserts a hard page break in front of the cross-reference." In Word, a cross-reference refers to a bookmark. A bookmark is a selection of

Is it possible to Save As PDF from FrameMaker 9 using Acrobat 7 on Windows7?

2010-06-03 Thread Art Campbell
A couple of answers, cut in below. Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply.

Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

2010-06-03 Thread Writer
Most of the Frame "deficiencies" listed here seem rather minor to me (probably because I don't need word count, reading level, outline, etc) compared to its strengths, especially stability. I don't want to start another "I hate Word" debate, but I don't like to use Word for any document that is

Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

2010-06-03 Thread Lea Rush
Well, I wouldn't call them effortless, but I do call them rock-solid. Frame doesn't try to guess what you want, and Word's numbering system broke my 50 - 60 page documents at least twice a year, requiring a week's repair time. The day spent setting up my elaborate numbering system has saved me at

Acrobat 9 Frustrations...

2010-06-03 Thread Dov Isaacs
Whatever problem you are experiencing has nothing to do with Windows 7 or Acrobat 9, but probably relates to problems with FrameMaker 8. For the record, the "hotfix" is for Windows XP and Vista only. Windows 7 already is fixed for the issues for which the hotfix applied. Furthermore, the issue

Is it possible to Save As PDF from FrameMaker 9 using Acrobat 7 on Windows7?

2010-06-03 Thread Art Campbell
OK, if you run the installation program in Windows XP compatibility mode, it doesn't have anything at all to do with what the Acrobat program actually does or what it works with when it's running. The installation program just installs. Period. It doesn't control what can or cannot use the virtual

Is it possible to Save As PDF from FrameMaker 9 using Acrobat 7 on Windows7?

2010-06-03 Thread Alison Craig
A quick look at Adobe's site yields the following - so I wouldn't waste my time on the phone with Adobe. As I have Adobe CS2 (Acrobat 7) I have yet another reason to resist the change to Windows 7. Yeah! Alison "What about older versions of Acrobat and Windows 7? If you own Acrobat 6,

Is it possible to Save As PDF from FrameMaker 9 using Acrobat 7 on Windows7?

2010-06-03 Thread Dov Isaacs
Acrobat 7 does not support any version of Windows beyond Windows XP and certainly NOT any 64-bit version of Windows. With all due respect, if you are considering upgrades of operating system and hardware (such as more memory than can be supported by a 32-bit OS), you should consider the FULL cost

paragraph tag report?

2010-06-03 Thread Lidington, Ellen L
Is there a way to generate a report that lists paragraph tags and their definitions? If no, has anyone come up with a way to get this information? My team is using version 7.1 on Windows. Thanks. Ellen Ellen Lidington Documentation Lead Ingenix 950 Winter Street, Suite 3800, Waltham,

Is it possible to Save As PDF from FrameMaker 9 using Acrobat 7 on Windows7?

2010-06-03 Thread Ursula McCloy
Thanks, Art :). While I thought I was explaining myself clearly, your questions made me realize that in fact I did not! Ah, the value of a peer review... 1) I have a brand-spanking-new machine with Windows7 64-bit on it. 2) We installed our new FM9 license. All works well. 3)

ARE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

2010-06-03 Thread Tim J. Slager
Frame is clunky; Word is quirky. I have to agree numbered lists are Word's Achilles heal, although I can (usually) get them to work. I worked for 10 years at a company where we used Word to create professional documentation with page counts reaching into the thousands with very consistent

extra pages

2010-06-03 Thread Layton, Debbie
I've been using FM for nearly ten years, but recently had to relearn it after a couple of years away from it. We are using Frame 7. One of my documents has several extra pages at the end that I can't get rid of. There seems to be an extra end-of-flow symbol floating near the end. There is only

paragraph tag report?

2010-06-03 Thread Spectrum Writing
http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/ The Paragraph tools plugin. works like a charm and gives you exactly what you're asking for in your email. TVB Tammy Van Boening Owner/Principal Spectrum Writing, LLC www.spectrumwritingllc.com info at spectrumwritingllc.com -Original Message-

ARE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

2010-06-03 Thread Fred Ridder
Alan T Litchfield wrote: > On 4/06/2010, at 5:35 AM, Tim J. Slager wrote: > > > I worked for 10 years at a company where we used Word to create > > professional documentation with page counts reaching into the > > thousands with very consistent template styles and rare file > > corruption.

paragraph tag report?

2010-06-03 Thread Stuart Rogers
On 03/06/2010 10:29 AM, Lidington, Ellen L wrote: > Is there a way to generate a report that lists paragraph tags and their > definitions? If no, has anyone come up with a way to get this > information? My team is using version 7.1 on Windows. > MIF Muncher:

Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

2010-06-03 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Tim, As Fred pointed out, there are tons of things you can do with FrameScript or the FDK. I am partial to FrameScript because I make my living writing them, but you can really make FrameMaker fly with FrameScript automation. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-659-8267 rick at

paragraph tag report?

2010-06-03 Thread Mike Wickham
The Format List plugin, part of the Squidds Toolbox is the best at this. Unlike the other suggestions, it puts the results in a table, so that you can look at all your paragraph formats in a glance. Scanning a row will tell you the definition of a given tag. Scanning a column will compare the

ARE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

2010-06-03 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Alan Litchfield wrote: > On 4/06/2010, at 5:35 AM, Tim J. Slager wrote: > > I worked for 10 years at a company where we used Word to create > > professional documentation with page counts reaching into the > > thousands with very consistent template styles and rare file > > corruption. We

Thank you for the help!

2010-06-03 Thread Layton, Debbie
Thanks for the responses to my blank pages quandary. I received several responses, and got the problem fixed. And ran into several people I already knew, too! Debbie Layton Technical Writer Customer Publications 503.582.6822 debbie.layton at xerox.com

Setting PDF Custom Properties from Structured FrameMaker

2010-06-03 Thread Michael Pearson
Hi Jasmine, You can do this with a "Postscript Code" text frame containing a pdfmark operator. A "Postscript Code" text frame is just a regular text frame that has the "Postscript Code" property set from the Object Properties dialog. When that checkbox is selected, any text in the frame is

Setting PDF Custom Properties from Structured FrameMaker

2010-06-03 Thread Rick Quatro
Yes, and with FrameScript, you can automate the process of getting the correct values from the document's structure and creating the PostScript text frame. You can have the script run automatically whenever you save the document or book as PDF. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-659-8267 rick

Adobe TCS 2 conditional text question

2010-06-03 Thread Bill Swallow
I am at a loss with regard to conditional text handling in TCS 2. My specific project: FM file with multiple conditions FM files are set with the desired show/hide settings applied from book level down. FM files are LINKED in RH (not imported) RH has mirror condition markers created RH has "Apply

Adobe TCS 2 conditional text question

2010-06-03 Thread Bill Swallow
I figured it out, finally. Details here: http://techcommdood.com/?p=408 On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 9:29 PM, Bill Swallow wrote: > I am at a loss with regard to conditional text handling in TCS 2. My > specific project: > > FM file with multiple conditions > FM files are set with the desired

PDF Size Optimization

2010-06-03 Thread Gary Bankston
If this is urgent, why not just put a hyperlink into the cover page after the pdf is created? On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 8:55 PM, Garnier Garnier < garnier_framescript at yahoo.co.in> wrote: > Hi Listers, > > I am using Framemaker 7.0. > > Recently received a two-page FM file ? it is a cover page