Glad you're working with Miramo on a solution. Always best to take on
these weirdnesses as far up the chain as possible, wherever that may
lead you. Good luck!
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Jakob Fix jakob@gmail.com wrote:
I would just like to thank everybody on the list who chimed in
That should work. These are the book settings, correct? The FM file
settings are irrelevent in a book setting unless the book is set to
inherit the properties from the files.
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 9:33 AM, Jakob Fix jakob@gmail.com wrote:
These are our settings:
- next available page is
Next Available Page isn't the only setting to check in the book.
Make sure that you aren't requiring that chapters open on Right pages --
that's the most common setting and it'll force the preceding chapter to add
a page so the current chapter hits the Right page.
Art Campbell
To clarify this... if you're opening a component file outside the book
environment, the file's settings are used, so if you want consistent
behavior, the file pagination settings need to match the book's.
The book pagination only applies if the book environment is present. So if
you're also
While very true (you can't have a piece of paper with only one face,
at least not without applying a hefty dose of quantum physics) this
shouldn't affect the book from chapter to chapter IF the book file has
its own settings and is not inheriting pagination from the files.
Double check the book
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] De la part de Bill Swallow
Envoyé : 16 décembre 2009 09:54
À : Art Campbell
Cc : Framers List
Objet : Re: how to prevent empty pages in a book? (part xxviii)
While very true (you can't have a piece of paper with only one face,
at least not without
Richard, I should have said this in my initial message, but yes I
checked this and found the Pagination Start: Anywhere for the first
paragraph (which is actually the table itself).
On the second page the only thing that's visible (if text symbols is
toggled on) is the § sign. Another
The Section symbol is a paragraph. So if it's on the second page... you have
content there even if there's no textual content.
Art Campbell
art.campb...@gmail.com
... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a
redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson
There are two settings that affect pagination:
- The Before Saving Printing setting
- The 1st Page Side setting (in the following chapter)
Both of these are found in two locations: the Pagination settings in
each chapter and the Pagination settings in the book file. The
Pagination settings in
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 17:07, Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com wrote:
The Section symbol is a paragraph. So if it's on the second page... you have
content there even if there's no textual content.
So this means that Frame doesn't consider it an empty page and doesn't
delete it. Which makes
Also, I just ran Miramo again to regenerate the FrameMaker files and
it turns out that I was wrong, and the initial documents are already
two-page documents with the second page containing simply an empty
paragraph. Mea culpa!
Aha! And yes, just because it's empty doesn't mean it's not there.
Jakob Fix wrote:
So this means that Frame doesn't consider it an empty page and doesn't
delete it. Which makes perfect sense.
Also, I just ran Miramo again to regenerate the FrameMaker files and
it turns out that I was wrong, and the initial documents are already
two-page documents with
You're all right of course, the best thing would be to fix the file
generation by Miramo. Barring that, FrameScript seems like an
acceptable fall-back solution.
Thanks for everybody's replies and help, it's been most helpful to
understand a problem we're fighting with for a quite long time!
Hi Jakob,
You can tell that it's a disconnected page by choosing View Text Symbols
and looking at the page. You can see the section symbol on the second page,
so you know that it is not connected to the page the contains your table.
The first thing I would check it to find out why Miramo is
Rick Quatro wrote:
You can tell that it's a disconnected page by choosing View Text
Symbols
and looking at the page. You can see the section symbol on the second
page,
so you know that it is not connected to the page the contains your
table.
Hmm, I'd forgotten to consider the possibility
Jakob Fix wrote:
Richard, I should have said this in my initial message, but yes I
checked this and found the Pagination Start: Anywhere for the first
paragraph (which is actually the table itself).
The table itself, the Table Title pgf, or the pgf containing the table
anchor? All three
Please find a screenshot of the section break/discontinued page here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jfix/4190175063/sizes/o/
Page eight is the first page, page nine the last page of the document.
Although Rick explained it to me, I still have problems recognizing
that this is a disconnected page
Hi Jakob,
Click in the paragraph on the second page. Now press your up arrow key
several times. If this was a connected page, the cursor would move up to
page one, but it never will because the page is disconnected.
Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-659-8267
r...@frameexpert.com
Rick Quatro wrote:
Click in the paragraph on the second page. Now press your up arrow key
several times. If this was a connected page, the cursor would move up
to
page one, but it never will because the page is disconnected.
Since the screenshot shows the table ending near the bottom of the
I don't have FrameMaker available now, but IIRC, there's a setting
under Edit Update that can turn off automatic checking of links when
a file is opened. I can't remember if it's book-wide, document-wide,
or application-wide, depending on the active context when you set it.
Regards,
Peter
Rick Quatro wrote:
Hi Jakob,
Click in the paragraph on the second page. Now press your up arrow key
several times. If this was a connected page, the cursor would move up to
page one, but it never will because the page is disconnected.
Or select the entire table (Ctrl-triple-click) and
Peter Gold wrote:
I don't have FrameMaker available now, but IIRC, there's a setting
under Edit Update that can turn off automatic checking of links when
a file is opened. I can't remember if it's book-wide, document-wide,
or application-wide, depending on the active context when you set
Thanks Stuart, all very useful information. It's been some time that I
haven't used FrameMaker in-depth ...
Jakob.
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 18:24, Stuart Rogers
srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com wrote:
Jakob Fix wrote:
Richard, I should have said this in my initial message, but yes I
checked
I would just like to thank everybody on the list who chimed in with
ideas, comments and help for their replies. Initially, I thought the
fact that we generate the files with Miramo was secondary, but thanks
to the list I was proven wrong. I've learned a lot today, and it was a
pleasure doing so.
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