RE: Adobe Acrobat Reader 8.0

[Steve Rickaby]

At 00:37 -0700 5/11/06, Graeme Forbes wrote:

you can easily set a default. I run Acro5, full version, and Acro7 Pro 
(default), on the same machines, but the solution to having them cohabit 
peacefully may be that Acro5 is set to open as a classic application.

Ditto here with Acrobat 5 and 6, the former in Classic.

-- 
Steve
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Acrobatlateral thinking : Implement simultaneous multiple releases [was RE: Adobe Acrobat Reader 8.0]

[hedley . finger]

Dov and all:

 This is a good time, though, to
 repeat my warning that you should not attempt to have
 either multiple versions of Acrobat, multiple versions
 of Reader, and/or mixtures of Acrobat and Reader installed
 on a given system. Although it is possible to coerce the
 installers to do that, it is neither endorsed nor
 supported by Adobe. Many, many problems that we hear
 about with regards to anything PDF ultimately get traced
 to attempts to have anything more than one version of
 Acrobat or of Reader installed on one system. In some
 cases problems occur as the result of not fully uninstalling
 previous versions or following the explicit directions of
 the uninstaller to reboot as part of the uninstall procedure.

Dov repeats the by now familiar warning about installing and 
using multiple releases of Acrobat.  This has been going on for 
a long time now, so evidently a good number of people have 
good reasons for wanting to retain multiple versions of Acrobat.

Instead of making this the customer's problem (maintaining two 
different releases on different computers and other workarounds)
why not fix it?  If Adobe is in the business of satisfying customer needs, 

it appears that a significant number of customers want this to be 
implemented.

And don't anybody say it can't be done.  We need to go no further than 
our old mate FrameMaker.  I have FrameMaker v. 7.0, 7.1 and 7.2 installed 
on my computer and they all co-exist quite happily.  They are there so I 
can 
troubleshoot problems that my colleagues may be having with the particular 

version of FM on their computers.  So, not only can I run all three 
versions 
simultaneously, but when I impatiently double-click the destop icon too 
enthusiastically, I can have multiple launches of the ONE release 
running.

Regards,
Hedley

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Training Content Developer and Tools Specialist
MYOB Australia Pty Ltd http://myob.com/au
P.O. box 371   Blackburn VIC 3130   Australia
12 Wesley Court   Tally Ho Business Park   East Burwood VIC 3151 Australia
mailto:hedleyDOTfingerATmyobDOTcom
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RE: Acrobatlateral thinking : Implement simultaneous multiple releases [was RE: Adobe Acrobat Reader 8.0]

[hedley . finger]

Tina:

 I would think it would be very difficult to get multiple
 version working together that do not interfere with each other.

Difficult, but not impossible.  Software manufacturers should not blame 
their customers and put problems on their shoulders that can easily (or 
difficultly) be solved by the manufacturer.  And difficult is relative: 
when 
you have a near-monopoly of the graphics arts market and are earning 
hundreds of millions of dollars, difficult is both easy and cheap.

For a start, when I double-click on 
an FM file, FM 7.2 always opens.  So there is no reason why Acrobat 
versions cannot do the same -- the last installed has all the registry 
pointers directed to this version.  As for toobars and plug-ins, they 
could all be installed by the latest installation.

If you wanted to use an older version with a file you would have to launch 

it and use File  Open, just as I do with FrameMaker 7.0.

Regards,
Hedleyu

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Training Content Developer and Tools Specialist
MYOB Australia Pty Ltd http://myob.com/au
P.O. box 371   Blackburn VIC 3130   Australia
12 Wesley Court   Tally Ho Business Park   East Burwood VIC 3151 Australia
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Adobe Acrobat Reader 8.0

[Graeme Forbes]

Dov wrote:

"The problems that I mention are more prevalent under Windows
than on Mac"

which sounds about right. But although

"even the Mac has issues with such parallel
installations. Some program must respond to double clicks
to open/process files from the user interface"

you can easily set a default. I run Acro5, full version, and Acro7 
Pro (default), on the same machines, but the solution to having them 
cohabit peacefully may be that Acro5 is set to open as a classic 
application.

Graeme Forbes

Adobe Acrobat Reader 8.0

[Steve Rickaby]

At 00:37 -0700 5/11/06, Graeme Forbes wrote:

>you can easily set a default. I run Acro5, full version, and Acro7 Pro 
>(default), on the same machines, but the solution to having them cohabit 
>peacefully may be that Acro5 is set to open as a classic application.

Ditto here with Acrobat 5 and 6, the former in Classic.

-- 
Steve

Acrobatlateral thinking : Implement simultaneous multiple releases [was "RE: Adobe Acrobat Reader 8.0"]

[Tina Poole]

I would think it would be very difficult to get multiple
version working together that do not interfere with each other.

FrameMaker doesn't not 'touch' other applications. Acrobat
has to work with MS Word, Excel, plus a multitude of other
non-Microsoft and Adobe products. And not only work with it
but be able to plug-in to those applications, e.g. buttons
on toolbars in Word.

We have the same issues with our product which needs to
interface with five or six other applications and any small
change in those applications that we don't know about and
everything it's tears alround...



tina


Tina Poole
MineStar
Information Products and Solutions Division
Caterpillar

PO Box 10606
Adelaide Street
Brisbane Australia

Telephone: +61 7 3329 8134
Fax: +61 7 3329 8101
Email: Poole_Tina_L at cat.com

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Subject: Acrobatlateral thinking : Implement simultaneous multiple
releases [was "RE: Adobe Acrobat Reader 8.0"]


Dov and all:

> This is a good time, though, to
> repeat my warning that you should not attempt to have
> either multiple versions of Acrobat, multiple versions
> of Reader, and/or mixtures of Acrobat and Reader installed
> on a given system. Although it is possible to coerce the
> installers to do that, it is neither endorsed nor
> supported by Adobe. Many, many problems that we hear
> about with regards to anything PDF ultimately get traced
> to attempts to have anything more than one version of
> Acrobat or of Reader installed on one system. In some
> cases problems occur as the result of not fully uninstalling
> previous versions or following the explicit directions of
> the uninstaller to reboot as part of the uninstall procedure.

Dov repeats the by now familiar warning about installing and
using multiple releases of Acrobat.  This has been going on for
a long time now, so evidently a good number of people have
good reasons for wanting to retain multiple versions of Acrobat.

Instead of making this the customer's problem (maintaining two
different releases on different computers and other workarounds)
why not fix it?  If Adobe is in the business of satisfying customer needs,

it appears that a significant number of customers want this to be
implemented.

And don't anybody say it can't be done.  We need to go no further than
our old mate FrameMaker.  I have FrameMaker v. 7.0, 7.1 and 7.2 installed
on my computer and they all co-exist quite happily.  They are there so I
can
troubleshoot problems that my colleagues may be having with the particular

version of FM on their computers.  So, not only can I run all three
versions
simultaneously, but when I impatiently double-click the destop icon too
enthusiastically, I can have multiple launches of the ONE release
running.

Regards,
Hedley

--
Hedley Finger
Training Content Developer and Tools Specialist
MYOB Australia Pty Ltd 
P.O. box 371   Blackburn VIC 3130   Australia
12 Wesley Court   Tally Ho Business Park   East Burwood VIC 3151 Australia

Tel. +61 3 9222 9992 x 7421,   Mob. (cell) +61 412 461 558

? MYOB Technology Pty Ltd 2006
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