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Test, please excuse intrusion... -pc --- On Sat, 5/10/08, Fred Ridder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Fred Ridder [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Newbie Question, Book Template To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, May 10, 2008, 2:20 AM Well, all I can tell you at thsi point is that your attempted re-send with the Subject line Book Template (basic) also showed up on the list as an empty message. About a half dozen list members have had the problem and all were apparently able to resolve it by setting their client for text-only messages. -FR Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 16:20:31 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: RE: Newbie Question, Book TemplateTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I checked the Yahoo Mail Handler and text only is checked as suggested...Haven't experienced this before ???-pc--- On Fri, 5/9/08, Fred Ridder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Fred Ridder [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: Newbie Question, Book TemplateTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Friday, May 9, 2008, 6:53 PM Your posting appeared on the list as an empty message. Make sure yourmail client is set up to send mail in plain text format only. The Yahoo client defaults to HTML mode with the message inside a table cell, and if the Techwr-l server passes on HTML at all (which it does not always do) itis certain to strip out any tables which makes your content disappear. Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 15:18:32 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Newbie Question, Book Template To: framers@lists.frameusers.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/docudoc%40hotmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. Windows Live SkyDrive lets you share files with faraway friends. Start sharing. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. _ Windows Live SkyDrive lets you share files with faraway friends. http://www.windowslive.com/skydrive/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_skydrive_052008 Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Questions about look and feel.
Thank you for the info. Very informative. Now I know why my eyes burn at the end of the day..its those damned rays! Where does credibility, authority and believability fit in with all of this? Which font? I want a font that, when viewed, reeks of leadership! Frank -Original Message- From: Kelly McDaniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 9:21 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Questions about look and feel. OK, you've worn down my resistance and I must register my observations. Reading on the computer screen is different from reading a printed page. Reading on an LDC or TFT display is slightly different than reading on a CRT. (A CRT oscillates at, or very, very near the frequency of the electric supply current. LCD and TFT displays do not oscillate, or at least they display a more intense image persistance.) The printed page depends on reflected light. The background of the page reflects all wavelengths (rendered white...most of the time, anyway) and the print on the page blocks all wavelengths (rendered black...same proviso as background) of light. On the printed page, serifs serve the purpose of making the outline of each printed character distinct from the background by creating a longer border between the printed character and the background. This provides the eye more information whereby it can decode the character. Once again, the printed page depends on reflected light, and how well the characters block the reflection (render resolution.) There is a spanner (disturbance variable) in the works, however, and the spanner is this: The publisher has no control over the quality, color, or amount of light. Serifs help resolve this issue. Reading glasses help even more. Reading on a computer display differs from reading the printed page in this respect: The light is direct, in contrast to reflected light. Light emanates from the display. The characters and the background both block all wavelengths of light that are not contained in their respective colors. This difference is an important consideration when deciding to use serif or sans serif fonts. Reflection, refraction, and ocular persistence come into play. In general, serif fonts are better for printed works. Sans serif fonts are better for screen displays, but, I could be wrong...regards, Kelly. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stuart Rogers Sent: 2008-05-09 10:40 To: Mike Wickham Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Questions about look and feel. Mike Wickham wrote: 2. Do people think that a Sans Serif font improves legibility for body text? Using a sans serif font for body text greatly reduces reader comprehension. Obtain a copy of Colin Wheildon's _Type and Layout: Are You Communicating or Just Making Pretty Shapes?_ The book contains actual studies showing the effects on readability and comprehension of serif vs. sans serif fonts, color type, bold and italic type, justified paragraphs, etc. It's a fantastic book: http://www.amazon.com/Type-Layout-Communicating-Making-Pretty/dp/1875750 223 After reading both the positive and (very) negative reviews on Amazon, I put a hold on a copy from the library rather than rush to buy. Sounds like it could be either a well-researched factual treatment, or an opinion piece supported by dubious methodology. Also sounds like it is geared to advertising rather than book-length text, and I very much doubt that what's good for the former applies uniformly to the latter. But I shall reserve judgement until I've actually read the thing! Thanks for the reference, Mike, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com A man's screech should exceed his rasp, or what's a violin for? --another Rogers Original ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/kmcdaniel%40pavtech. com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/frank.j.dodd%40boein g.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit
RE: Framemaker Uses
I've used FM to write training documents for my union. I can't do it as much as I'd like to because, of course, not many folks have FM and they wouldn't be able to maintain the docs. But the union has a group of tech writer members, so when I write for them, I can use it. - Mike Bradley www.techpubs.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
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Test, please excuse intrusion... -pc --- On Sat, 5/10/08, Fred Ridder wrote: > From: Fred Ridder > Subject: RE: Newbie Question, Book Template > To: neat_gent at yahoo.com > Date: Saturday, May 10, 2008, 2:20 AM > Well, all I can tell you at thsi point is that your > attempted re-send with > the Subject line "Book Template (basic)" also > showed up on the list as > an empty message. About a half dozen list members have had > the > problem and all were apparently able to resolve it by > setting their > client for text-only messages. -FR > > > Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 16:20:31 -0700From: > neat_gent at yahoo.comSubject: RE: Newbie Question, Book > TemplateTo: docudoc at hotmail.com > > > > I checked the Yahoo Mail Handler and "text only" > is checked as suggested...Haven't experienced this > before ???-pc--- On Fri, 5/9/08, Fred Ridder > wrote: > From: Fred Ridder Subject: RE: > Newbie Question, Book TemplateTo: neat_gent at yahoo.comDate: > Friday, May 9, 2008, 6:53 PM > > > Your posting appeared on the list as an empty message. Make > sure yourmail client is set up to send mail in plain text > format only. The Yahoo client defaults to HTML mode with > the message inside a table cell, and if the Techwr-l server > passes on HTML at all (which it does not always do) itis > certain to strip out any tables which makes your content > disappear.> Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 15:18:32 -0700> > From: neat_gent at yahoo.com> Subject: Newbie Question, > Book Template> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com> > > > ___> > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as > DocuDoc at hotmail.com.> > Send list messages to > framers at lists.frameusers.com.> > To unsubscribe send > a blank email to > > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com> or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/docudoc%40hotmail.com> > > Send administrative questions to > listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit> > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > Windows Live SkyDrive lets you share files with faraway > friends. Start sharing. > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! > Mobile. Try it now. > _ > Windows Live SkyDrive lets you share files with faraway > friends. > http://www.windowslive.com/skydrive/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_skydrive_052008 Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
