Re: FrameMaker Bug: inability to add a table after a table footnote.
To reproduce:
1. In an existing table, put your cursor in one of the cells.2. Click Special
-- Footnote. The table footnote appears right after the table.3. Create a new
line and apply the Body pgf style to this line.4. Try to insert a new table...
Regards,Roman
On Thursday, May 14, 2015 3:52 PM, Roman Banks banks_ro...@yahoo.com
wrote:
Hi Rick,
Thank you for your response!
I think you misunderstood me. I wasn't going to add a table to a footnote. I
was going to add a table after a *table footnote* that appears right under the
preceding table.So even if I apply the Body pgf tag to the new line, I can't
add a table on this line.
Regards,Roman
On Thursday, May 14, 2015 3:39 PM, Rick Quatro r...@rickquatro.com wrote:
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{}#yiv4505705626 Hi Roman, Footnotes have their own flow and you can't add a
table to footnotes, but you can add a table to the main flow after the
footnote. I just tried it with FM 12. Rick Rick QuatroCarmen Publishing
inc.585-366-4017r...@frameexpert.com From:
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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Roman Banks
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 7:28 AM
To: Framers
Subject: FrameMaker Bug: inability to add a table after a table footnote.
Hello fellows, I've just reproduced this issue both in FM10 and in FM12. The
Insert Table option under the Table menu is grayed out if you try to add a
table on a new line after a table footnote. Have you ever encountered this
issue? Regards,Roman
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Re: FrameMaker Bug: inability to add a table after a table footnote.
Roman, it still sounds like you're trying to insert a table into a footnote. Is your cursor still in the footnote when you insert the new line and apply Body to it? If so, you're still in the table footnote even though it doesn't look like it. You have to put your cursor on the same line as the table anchor and then create the new line. On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 8:59 AM, Roman Banks banks_ro...@yahoo.com wrote: To reproduce: 1. In an existing table, put your cursor in one of the cells. 2. Click Special -- Footnote. The table footnote appears right after the table. 3. Create a new line and apply the Body pgf style to this line. 4. Try to insert a new table... Regards, Roman On Thursday, May 14, 2015 3:52 PM, Roman Banks banks_ro...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Rick, Thank you for your response! I think you misunderstood me. I wasn't going to add a table to a footnote. I was going to add a table after a *table footnote* that appears right under the preceding table. So even if I apply the Body pgf tag to the new line, I can't add a table on this line. Regards, Roman On Thursday, May 14, 2015 3:39 PM, Rick Quatro r...@rickquatro.com wrote: Hi Roman, Footnotes have their own flow and you can't add a table to footnotes, but you can add a table to the main flow after the footnote. I just tried it with FM 12. Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-366-4017 r...@frameexpert.com *From:* framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Roman Banks *Sent:* Thursday, May 14, 2015 7:28 AM *To:* Framers *Subject:* FrameMaker Bug: inability to add a table after a table footnote. Hello fellows, I've just reproduced this issue both in FM10 and in FM12. The Insert Table option under the Table menu is grayed out if you try to add a table on a new line after a table footnote. Have you ever encountered this issue? Regards, Roman ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FrameMaker Bug: inability to add a table after a table footnote.
I am unable to reproduce the error as described. Is it possible you're actually trying to insert the table into a new line in the footnote, rather than the line after the table anchor? On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 7:27 AM, Roman Banks banks_ro...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello fellows, I've just reproduced this issue both in FM10 and in FM12. The Insert Table option under the Table menu is grayed out if you try to add a table on a new line after a table footnote. Have you ever encountered this issue? Regards, Roman ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FrameMaker Bug: inability to add a table after a table footnote.
Rick, We have to stop meeting like this. laughing On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 9:25 AM, Lin Sims ljsims...@gmail.com wrote: Roman, it still sounds like you're trying to insert a table into a footnote. Is your cursor still in the footnote when you insert the new line and apply Body to it? If so, you're still in the table footnote even though it doesn't look like it. You have to put your cursor on the same line as the table anchor and then create the new line. On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 8:59 AM, Roman Banks banks_ro...@yahoo.com wrote: To reproduce: 1. In an existing table, put your cursor in one of the cells. 2. Click Special -- Footnote. The table footnote appears right after the table. 3. Create a new line and apply the Body pgf style to this line. 4. Try to insert a new table... Regards, Roman On Thursday, May 14, 2015 3:52 PM, Roman Banks banks_ro...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Rick, Thank you for your response! I think you misunderstood me. I wasn't going to add a table to a footnote. I was going to add a table after a *table footnote* that appears right under the preceding table. So even if I apply the Body pgf tag to the new line, I can't add a table on this line. Regards, Roman On Thursday, May 14, 2015 3:39 PM, Rick Quatro r...@rickquatro.com wrote: Hi Roman, Footnotes have their own flow and you can't add a table to footnotes, but you can add a table to the main flow after the footnote. I just tried it with FM 12. Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-366-4017 r...@frameexpert.com *From:* framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Roman Banks *Sent:* Thursday, May 14, 2015 7:28 AM *To:* Framers *Subject:* FrameMaker Bug: inability to add a table after a table footnote. Hello fellows, I've just reproduced this issue both in FM10 and in FM12. The Insert Table option under the Table menu is grayed out if you try to add a table on a new line after a table footnote. Have you ever encountered this issue? Regards, Roman ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Lin Sims -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: FrameMaker Bug: inability to add a table after a table footnote.
Hi Roman, Footnotes have their own flow and you can't add a table to footnotes, but you can add a table to the main flow after the footnote. I just tried it with FM 12. Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-366-4017 r...@frameexpert.com From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Roman Banks Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 7:28 AM To: Framers Subject: FrameMaker Bug: inability to add a table after a table footnote. Hello fellows, I've just reproduced this issue both in FM10 and in FM12. The Insert Table option under the Table menu is grayed out if you try to add a table on a new line after a table footnote. Have you ever encountered this issue? Regards, Roman ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FrameMaker Bug: inability to add a table after a table footnote.
Hi Rick,
Thank you for your response!
I think you misunderstood me. I wasn't going to add a table to a footnote. I
was going to add a table after a *table footnote* that appears right under the
preceding table.So even if I apply the Body pgf tag to the new line, I can't
add a table on this line.
Regards,Roman
On Thursday, May 14, 2015 3:39 PM, Rick Quatro r...@rickquatro.com wrote:
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table to footnotes, but you can add a table to the main flow after the
footnote. I just tried it with FM 12. Rick Rick QuatroCarmen Publishing
inc.585-366-4017r...@frameexpert.com From:
framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Roman Banks
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 7:28 AM
To: Framers
Subject: FrameMaker Bug: inability to add a table after a table footnote.
Hello fellows, I've just reproduced this issue both in FM10 and in FM12. The
Insert Table option under the Table menu is grayed out if you try to add a
table on a new line after a table footnote. Have you ever encountered this
issue? Regards,Roman
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RE: FrameMaker Bug: inability to add a table after a table footnote.
Hi Roman, When you create a new line, you are still in the footnote flow. You have to click after the table anchor and create a new paragraph. Your cursor will be below the table footnote and you can add another table. Rick From: Roman Banks [mailto:banks_ro...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 8:59 AM To: Rick Quatro; 'Framers' Subject: Re: FrameMaker Bug: inability to add a table after a table footnote. To reproduce: 1. In an existing table, put your cursor in one of the cells. 2. Click Special -- Footnote. The table footnote appears right after the table. 3. Create a new line and apply the Body pgf style to this line. 4. Try to insert a new table... Regards, Roman On Thursday, May 14, 2015 3:52 PM, Roman Banks banks_ro...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Rick, Thank you for your response! I think you misunderstood me. I wasn't going to add a table to a footnote. I was going to add a table after a *table footnote* that appears right under the preceding table. So even if I apply the Body pgf tag to the new line, I can't add a table on this line. Regards, Roman On Thursday, May 14, 2015 3:39 PM, Rick Quatro r...@rickquatro.com wrote: Hi Roman, Footnotes have their own flow and you can't add a table to footnotes, but you can add a table to the main flow after the footnote. I just tried it with FM 12. Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-366-4017 r...@frameexpert.com From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Roman Banks Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 7:28 AM To: Framers Subject: FrameMaker Bug: inability to add a table after a table footnote. Hello fellows, I've just reproduced this issue both in FM10 and in FM12. The Insert Table option under the Table menu is grayed out if you try to add a table on a new line after a table footnote. Have you ever encountered this issue? Regards, Roman ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FrameMaker Bug: inability to add a table after a table footnote.
Hi Rick,
That works, you are right. I was sure that if I apply the Body pgf tag to the
new line I will exit the footnote flow. And it looked like so -- I added a
regular Body text line. I still think that FM should exit the footnote flow
automatically if you apply the Body tag to the new line. :-)
Thanks again,Roman
On Thursday, May 14, 2015 4:16 PM, Rick Quatro r...@rickquatro.com wrote:
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When you create a new line, you are still in the footnote flow. You have to
click after the table anchor and create a new paragraph. Your cursor will be
below the table footnote and you can add another table. Rick From: Roman
Banks [mailto:banks_ro...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 8:59 AM
To: Rick Quatro; 'Framers'
Subject: Re: FrameMaker Bug: inability to add a table after a table footnote.
To reproduce: 1. In an existing table, put your cursor in one of the cells.2.
Click Special -- Footnote. The table footnote appears right after the table.3.
Create a new line and apply the Body pgf style to this line.4. Try to insert a
new table... Regards,Roman On Thursday, May 14, 2015 3:52 PM, Roman Banks
banks_ro...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Rick, Thank you for your response! I think
you misunderstood me. I wasn't going to add a table to a footnote. I was going
to add a table after a *table footnote* that appears right under the preceding
table.So even if I apply the Body pgf tag to the new line, I can't add a table
on this line. Regards,Roman On Thursday, May 14, 2015 3:39 PM, Rick Quatro
r...@rickquatro.com wrote: Hi Roman, Footnotes have their own flow and you
can't add a table to footnotes, but you can add a table to the main flow after
the footnote. I just tried it with FM 12. Rick Rick QuatroCarmen Publishing
inc.585-366-4017r...@frameexpert.com From:
framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Roman Banks
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 7:28 AM
To: Framers
Subject: FrameMaker Bug: inability to add a table after a table footnote. Hello
fellows, I've just reproduced this issue both in FM10 and in FM12. The Insert
Table option under the Table menu is grayed out if you try to add a table on
a new line after a table footnote. Have you ever encountered this issue?
Regards,Roman
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RE: Help Creation Flow and Upgrading from version 7.2 to the
You probably don't get much of a discount with a jump that big, but contact Adobe to find out. From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Caroline Tabach Sent: May-14-15 2:14 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: : Help Creation Flow and Upgrading from version 7.2 to the Thanks for the good ideas. I am sure I need the full version of Acrobat on my system for commenting etc. and working in other applications. However, I wonder how much it will cost in my region. From Frame 7.2 you can upgrade to TC5? As from what I recollect I cannot upgrade FrameMaker itself for so many versions Message: 7 Date: Tue, 12 May 2015 17:11:09 -0700 From: Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.commailto:rob...@lauriston.com To: framers Subject: Re: Help Creation Flow and Upgrading from version 7.2 to the latest version Message-ID: CAN3Yy4DtAUHDd=Fj3uLEzqNAf0aONSB8ijykxBt17K6czBSd=a...@mail.gmail.commailto:CAN3Yy4DtAUHDd=Fj3uLEzqNAf0aONSB8ijykxBt17K6czBSd=a...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 There's no upgrade pricing from 7.2 to FrameMaker 12, but there is for TCS 5. So the price difference is only $200. Caroline Tabach Technical/Marcom Writer Tel: +972-077-7745-042| carol...@radcom.commailto:carol...@radcom.com | www.radcom.comhttp://www.radcom.com/ [RADCOM_Logo_Radically_email]http://www.radcom.com/ ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
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In the US, upgrades to FM12 are from 10 or 11 only. Could be different in other countries. On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 11:14 PM, Caroline Tabach carol...@radcom.com wrote: As from what I recollect I cannot upgrade FrameMaker itself for so many versions ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: : Help Creation Flow and Upgrading from version 7.2 to the
I was remiss in saying that the FM 7.2 upgrade to FM12 was $800. I had forgotten that in comparing the prices back when TCS5 was first released that I had a FM 10 license that I could upgrade as well as a FM 7.0 license. So the only upgrade path was for FM 7.x was to get TCS 5 for $1200. Worth it, I think. Craig ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: FrameMaker Bug: inability to add a table after a table footnote.
This is a good reason for making your Table footnote format have a smaller format, so that the user realizes the s/he is in a footnote flow. I had an example at work today where two table footnotes were at the bottom of a table that spanned multiple pages. One was at that bottom of the last page of the table, the second was at the top of the following page. That page was the last page of the document. Two paragraphs were to follow the table, but one was inserted into the same flow with the second footnote. The other was in the main flow just past the footnote. The end of flow marker at the end of the footnote flow was the only thing that let you know that something was amiss since the fonts were the same size for both the body text in the main flow and the text in the footnotes. The table was just wide enough to make the indent for the footnote line up with the body text indent. I expect that at some point in the life of this document, the footnote was at the end of the document with the end of the main text flow just above the table (5 pages back) on the paragraph where the table was anchored. Seeing the end of flow in the footnote or having turned off Text Symbols, the person adding the not just clicked at the end of the text, hit Return and formatted the next paragraph with a Body paratag (of course, it didn't line up, since its indent was now coming from a point related to the edge of the table and not the left side of the text box on the master page. So they just overrode the format to make it line up as it should. So the next problem is, what do you do when the page fills up with the footnote and it can't wrap all that text to the next page? Craig ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FrameMaker Bug: inability to add a table after a table footnote.
Hello fellows, I've just reproduced this issue both in FM10 and in FM12. The Insert Table option under the Table menu is grayed out if you try to add a table on a new line after a table footnote. Have you ever encountered this issue? Regards,Roman___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
: Help Creation Flow and Upgrading from version 7.2 to the
Thanks for the good ideas. I am sure I need the full version of Acrobat on my system for commenting etc. and working in other applications. However, I wonder how much it will cost in my region. From Frame 7.2 you can upgrade to TC5? As from what I recollect I cannot upgrade FrameMaker itself for so many versions Message: 7 Date: Tue, 12 May 2015 17:11:09 -0700 From: Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com To: framers Subject: Re: Help Creation Flow and Upgrading from version 7.2 to the latest version Message-ID: CAN3Yy4DtAUHDd=Fj3uLEzqNAf0aONSB8ijykxBt17K6czBSd=a...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 There's no upgrade pricing from 7.2 to FrameMaker 12, but there is for TCS 5. So the price difference is only $200. Caroline Tabach Technical/Marcom Writer Tel: +972-077-7745-042| carol...@radcom.com mailto:carol...@radcom.com | www.radcom.com http://www.radcom.com/ http://www.radcom.com/ ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
