Re: Text insets : if in same FM document more than once internal x-refs do not update
Stephen.The xref is pointing to a specific ID assigned to it, so each time it
is called it will always link to that xref.To accomplish what you are
attempting I believe you would need three unique insets, each referring to the
respective illustration.If all three are in the same chapter why not insert it
the first time and then reference the section containing the first inset in the
other instances?
Dave Spreadbury
On Sunday, May 24, 2015 10:23 AM, Stephen O'Brien
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Have you seen this? I have a text inset that I insert into the same host
document (chpt 3) three times. It has an internal cross-reference to a figure.
When I update the host document the cross-references in the text insets all
show the same Figure #. Instead of seeing see Fig. 3.1 and later seeFig. 3.2,
they all show see Fig 3.1. The FM knowledgebase does say that a document’s
external cross-references do not update correctly if the document targeted by
the cross-reference is opened by a different user on the network. I still
don’t quite get it. Your comments are appreciated, Stephen O'BRIEN
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Re: Text insets : if in same FM document more than once internal x-refs do not update
Not that this is relevant to Stephen's problem, but did Adobe ever fix that longstanding bug where cross-references in text insets would not work reliably, instead you had to use newlink and gotolink? ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Text insets : if in same FM document more than once internal x-refs do not update
Hi, Have you seen this? I have a text inset that I insert into the same host document (chpt 3) three times. It has an internal cross-reference to a figure. When I update the host document the cross-references in the text insets all show the same Figure #. Instead of seeing see Fig. 3.1 and later see Fig. 3.2, they all show see Fig 3.1. The FM knowledgebase does say that a document's external cross-references do not update correctly if the document targeted by the cross-reference is opened by a different user on the network. I still don't quite get it. Your comments are appreciated, Stephen O'BRIEN Coordonnateur de la qualité documentaire et rédacteur technique senior | Quality Coordinator for Documentation and Senior Technical Writer InnovMetric Logiciels | Software sobr...@innovmetric.commailto:sobr...@innovmetric.com T (1) 418.688.2061 F (1) 418.688.3001 [cid:image001.gif@01D09613.5D56F7B0]http://www.innovmetric.com/ AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALITÉ/CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: Ce message peut contenir des renseignements confidentiels appartenant exclusivement à InnovMetric Logiciels inc. ou à ses filiales. Si vous n'êtes pas le destinataire indiqué dans ce message (ou responsable de livrer ce message à la personne indiquée ou prévue) ou si vous pensez que ce message vous a été adressé par erreur, vous ne pouvez pas utiliser ou reproduire ce message, ni le livrer à quelqu'un d'autre. Dans ce cas, veuillez le retourner à l'expéditeur et le détruire. Proprietary confidential information belonging to InnovMetric Software Inc. and its affiliates may be contained in this message. If you are not a recipient indicated or intended in this message (or responsible for delivering this message to such a person), or you think for any reason that this message may have been addressed to you by mistake, you may not use or copy this message, or deliver it to anyone else. In which case, notify the sender and destroy the e-mail. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Text insets : if in same FM document more than once internal x-refs do not update
The text inset is resolving to a target marker that is the same marker in all cases. FM resolves to the first occurrence of the marker (Figure 3.1). I'm not sure how it could know how to resolved to multiple instances of the same marker other than by doing that since markers are all the same as far as FM knows. Years ago, pasting text (not inserting a text inset) with the same marker, would duplicate the marker. You could link to that duplicate marker and get the second reference to appear in the text, but on generate of a book or an update all xrefs action the xref would revert to the first marker. This gave us fits, so now a paste of a duplicate marker results in it being deleted from the pasted text. If all three xrefs are actually referencing the same figure in different places, I suggest you just include the figure once. Craig From: sobr...@innovmetric.com To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Text insets : if in same FM document more than once internal x-refs do not update Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 15:22:14 + Hi, Have you seen this? I have a text inset that I insert into the same host document (chpt 3) three times. It has an internal cross-reference to a figure. When I update the host document the cross-references in the text insets all show the same Figure #. Instead of seeing see Fig. 3.1 and later see Fig. 3.2, they all show see Fig 3.1. The FM knowledgebase does say that a document’s external cross-references do not update correctly if the document targeted by the cross-reference is opened by a different user on the network. I still don’t quite get it. Your comments are appreciated, Stephen O'BRIEN Coordonnateur de la qualité documentaire et rédacteur technique senior | Quality Coordinator for Documentation and Senior Technical Writer InnovMetric Logiciels | Software sobr...@innovmetric.com T (1) 418.688.2061 F (1) 418.688.3001 AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALITÉ/CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: Ce message peut contenir des renseignements confidentiels appartenant exclusivement à InnovMetric Logiciels inc. ou à ses filiales. Si vous n’êtes pas le destinataire indiqué dans ce message (ou responsable de livrer ce message à la personne indiquée ou prévue) ou si vous pensez que ce message vous a été adressé par erreur, vous ne pouvez pas utiliser ou reproduire ce message, ni le livrer à quelqu’un d’autre. Dans ce cas, veuillez le retourner à l’expéditeur et le détruire. Proprietary confidential information belonging to InnovMetric Software Inc. and its affiliates may be contained in this message. If you are not a recipient indicated or intended in this message (or responsible for delivering this message to such a person), or you think for any reason that this message may have been addressed to you by mistake, you may not use or copy this message, or deliver it to anyone else. In which case, notify the sender and destroy the e-mail. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as craig...@hotmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/craigede%40hotmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Text insets : if in same FM document more than once internal x-refs do not update
Thx Dave – the cloud has lifted! Have a good day! Stephen O'BRIEN Coordonnateur de la qualité documentaire et rédacteur technique senior | Quality Coordinator for Documentation and Senior Technical Writer InnovMetric Logiciels | Software T (1) 418.688.2061 De : David Spreadbury [mailto:dspre...@yahoo.com] Envoyé : Sunday, May 24, 2015 11:45 AM À : Stephen O'Brien; Frame Users (framers@lists.frameusers.com) Objet : Re: Text insets : if in same FM document more than once internal x-refs do not update Stephen. The xref is pointing to a specific ID assigned to it, so each time it is called it will always link to that xref. To accomplish what you are attempting I believe you would need three unique insets, each referring to the respective illustration. If all three are in the same chapter why not insert it the first time and then reference the section containing the first inset in the other instances? Dave Spreadbury On Sunday, May 24, 2015 10:23 AM, Stephen O'Brien sobr...@innovmetric.commailto:sobr...@innovmetric.com wrote: Hi, Have you seen this? I have a text inset that I insert into the same host document (chpt 3) three times. It has an internal cross-reference to a figure. When I update the host document the cross-references in the text insets all show the same Figure #. Instead of seeing see Fig. 3.1 and later see Fig. 3.2, they all show see Fig 3.1. The FM knowledgebase does say that a document’s external cross-references do not update correctly if the document targeted by the cross-reference is opened by a different user on the network. I still don’t quite get it. Your comments are appreciated, Stephen O'BRIEN Coordonnateur de la qualité documentaire et rédacteur technique senior | Quality Coordinator for Documentation and Senior Technical Writer InnovMetric Logiciels | Software sobr...@innovmetric.commailto:sobr...@innovmetric.com T (1) 418.688.2061 F (1) 418.688.3001 [cid:image001.gif@01D09621.5D25A620]http://www.innovmetric.com/ AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALITÉ/CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: Ce message peut contenir des renseignements confidentiels appartenant exclusivement à InnovMetric Logiciels inc. ou à ses filiales. Si vous n’êtes pas le destinataire indiqué dans ce message (ou responsable de livrer ce message à la personne indiquée ou prévue) ou si vous pensez que ce message vous a été adressé par erreur, vous ne pouvez pas utiliser ou reproduire ce message, ni le livrer à quelqu’un d’autre. Dans ce cas, veuillez le retourner à l’expéditeur et le détruire. Proprietary confidential information belonging to InnovMetric Software Inc. and its affiliates may be contained in this message. If you are not a recipient indicated or intended in this message (or responsible for delivering this message to such a person), or you think for any reason that this message may have been addressed to you by mistake, you may not use or copy this message, or deliver it to anyone else. In which case, notify the sender and destroy the e-mail. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as dspre...@yahoo.com.mailto:dspre...@yahoo.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com.mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dspreadb%40yahoo.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com.mailto:listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Text insets : if in same FM document more than once internal x-refs do not update
Craog's suggestion is also valid if each inset is referencing the same
illustration imported three times.I would either insert the text inset once, as
I mentioned earlier, or if Craig is correct, then import the illustration just
one time.
On Sunday, May 24, 2015 12:16 PM, Stephen O'Brien
sobr...@innovmetric.com wrote:
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{}#yiv1053685084 Thx Dave – the cloud has lifted! Have a good day!
Stephen O'BRIEN
Coordonnateur de la qualité documentaire et rédacteur technique senior |
Quality Coordinator for Documentation and Senior Technical Writer
InnovMetric Logiciels | Software
T (1) 418.688.2061 De : David Spreadbury [mailto:dspre...@yahoo.com]
Envoyé : Sunday, May 24, 2015 11:45 AM
À : Stephen O'Brien; Frame Users (framers@lists.frameusers.com)
Objet : Re: Text insets : if in same FM document more than once internal x-refs
do not update Stephen. The xref is pointing to a specific ID assigned to it,
so each time it is called it will always link to that xref. To accomplish what
you are attempting I believe you would need three unique insets, each referring
to the respective illustration. If all three are in the same chapter why not
insert it the first time and then reference the section containing the first
inset in the other instances?
Dave Spreadbury On Sunday, May 24, 2015 10:23 AM, Stephen O'Brien
sobr...@innovmetric.com wrote: Hi, Have you seen this? I have a text
inset that I insert into the same host document (chpt 3) three times. It has an
internal cross-reference to a figure. When I update the host document the
cross-references in the text insets all show the same Figure #. Instead of
seeingsee Fig. 3.1 and later seeFig. 3.2, they all showsee Fig 3.1. The FM
knowledgebase does say that a document’s external cross-references do not
update correctly if the document targeted by the cross-reference is opened by a
different user on the network. I still don’t quite get it. Your comments
are appreciated, Stephen O'BRIEN
Coordonnateur de la qualité documentaire et rédacteur technique senior |
Quality Coordinator for Documentation and Senior Technical Writer
InnovMetric Logiciels | Software
sobr...@innovmetric.com
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F (1) 418.688.3001
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