Re: [Framers] Frame2017 slow on network??
Our intent network is heavily protected because our company deals with consumer financial information. As a result we have both high volume of traffic on the network and a great deal of behind the scenes security software. FrameMaker is slow in our network due to the latency built in because of those factors. I tell my people to work from their local drives and archive and share on network drives only when required. And don’t get me started on how Windows 10 screws things up. > On Aug 17, 2018, at 14:58, Doug wrote: > > I dunno...that sounds kinda subversive to me. :D > > On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 3:50 PM, Robert Lauriston > wrote: > >> Best practice is to use Subversion or some other source control system >> with file locks (i.e., not Git). >> >> Keeping source in shared directories on a file server is about as out >> of date as single-user installed software that runs only on Windows. >> >>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 12:36 PM, wrote: >>> I've had that problem as well. As I understand it, it has to do with >>> handshaking protocols and packet prioritization. >>> >>> The best answer I have found is to work on the files locally, and then >>> save them back up to the network drive. Suboptimal, but faster. >> ___ >> >> This message is from the Framers mailing list >> >> Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com >> Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com >> Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/ >> framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ >> Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/ >> listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com >> Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com >> > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Frame2017 slow on network??
I dunno...that sounds kinda subversive to me. :D On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 3:50 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote: > Best practice is to use Subversion or some other source control system > with file locks (i.e., not Git). > > Keeping source in shared directories on a file server is about as out > of date as single-user installed software that runs only on Windows. > > On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 12:36 PM, wrote: > >I've had that problem as well. As I understand it, it has to do with > >handshaking protocols and packet prioritization. > > > >The best answer I have found is to work on the files locally, and then > >save them back up to the network drive. Suboptimal, but faster. > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/ > framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/ > listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Frame2017 slow on network??
Best practice is to use Subversion or some other source control system with file locks (i.e., not Git). Keeping source in shared directories on a file server is about as out of date as single-user installed software that runs only on Windows. On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 12:36 PM, wrote: >I've had that problem as well. As I understand it, it has to do with >handshaking protocols and packet prioritization. > >The best answer I have found is to work on the files locally, and then >save them back up to the network drive. Suboptimal, but faster. ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Frame2017 slow on network??
I've had that problem as well. As I understand it, it has to do with handshaking protocols and packet prioritization. The best answer I have found is to work on the files locally, and then save them back up to the network drive. Suboptimal, but faster. Grant On August 17, 2018 at 12:20 PM Bernard Aschwanden <[1]bern...@publishingsmarter.com> wrote: If it is slow on the network I don't know if it's fair to blame FrameMaker specifically. It *might* be, but my best guess is the network may be the issue. I've worked with files on a slow and a fast network (or at slow and fast times at client sites) and it can make a HUGE impact on the content. I find that if the traffic is high and the network isn't supporting it (or if it's on a CCMS that is remotely hosted) the result is "slow FM" but the cause is outside of Adobe's sphere of control. Bernard -Original Message- From: Framers [mailto:[2]framers-bounces+bernard=publishingsmarter.com@lists.frame users.com] On Behalf Of Jules Harrell Sent: Friday, August 17, 2018 2:16 PM To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. Subject: SPAM -> Re: [Framers] Frame2017 slow on network?? I had the same problem. Seems like the old FrameMaker I once knew and loved is no longer in existence. Jules On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 10:29 AM, Caroline Tabach <[3]caroline.tab...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Our purchase of Frame went through. I am working on Frame 2017, with my files on the network In the past I always worked locally. FrameMaker seems a bit slow to me. Is this owing to working from the network? > > -- Caroline Tabach Technical/Marcom Writer e-mail: [4]caroline.tab...@gmail.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to [5]framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at [6]http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at [7]http://www.mail-archive.com/ framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at [8]http://lists.frameusers.com/ listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to [9]listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to [10]framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at [11]http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at [12]http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at [13]http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to [14]listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to [15]framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at [16]http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at [17]http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at [18]http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to [19]listad...@frameusers.com References 1. mailto:bern...@publishingsmarter.com 2. mailto:framers-bounces+bernard=publishingsmarter@lists.frameusers.com 3. mailto:caroline.tab...@gmail.com 4. mailto:caroline.tab...@gmail.com 5. mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com 6. http://www.frameusers.com/ 7. http://www.mail-archive.com/ 8. http://lists.frameusers.com/ 9. mailto:listad...@frameusers.com 10. mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com 11. http://www.frameusers.com/ 12. http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ 13. http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com 14. mailto:listad...@frameusers.com 15. mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com 16. http://www.frameusers.com/ 17. http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ 18. http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com 19. mailto:listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Paragraph numbering with embedded return?
Hi Lin, If you have to use two paragraph formats, use an "invisible" number on the Chapter Title paragraph format that picks up the number from the Section paragraph format. So if Section is then Chapter Title is . That way you only have to build a cross reference to the Chapter Title. There are various ways to make an autonumber invisible. If you need specific help, send me an email and I can give you some suggestions. Thanks. Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. r...@frameexpert.com 585-729-6746 NEW! -Original Message- From: Framers On Behalf Of Lin Sims Sent: Friday, August 17, 2018 2:31 PM To: Frame Users Subject: [Framers] Paragraph numbering with embedded return? The house style here is that each chapter starts with the following: Section Chapter Title (These are the only heading-type paragraphs with numbers.) I am getting mortally tired of having to use two separate cross-references when referring to a chapter. If I could figure out how to embed a return in the autonumbering, I could drop a paragraph tag, add an xref tag, and go on my merry way. I've already tried using \r in the Autonumber builder, but Frame doesn't like that. Is this even possible, or am I to remain woeful? -- Lin Sims ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
[Framers] Paragraph numbering with embedded return?
The house style here is that each chapter starts with the following: Section Chapter Title (These are the only heading-type paragraphs with numbers.) I am getting mortally tired of having to use two separate cross-references when referring to a chapter. If I could figure out how to embed a return in the autonumbering, I could drop a paragraph tag, add an xref tag, and go on my merry way. I've already tried using \r in the Autonumber builder, but Frame doesn't like that. Is this even possible, or am I to remain woeful? -- Lin Sims ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Frame2017 slow on network??
If it is slow on the network I don't know if it's fair to blame FrameMaker specifically. It *might* be, but my best guess is the network may be the issue. I've worked with files on a slow and a fast network (or at slow and fast times at client sites) and it can make a HUGE impact on the content. I find that if the traffic is high and the network isn't supporting it (or if it's on a CCMS that is remotely hosted) the result is "slow FM" but the cause is outside of Adobe's sphere of control. Bernard -Original Message- From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+bernard=publishingsmarter@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jules Harrell Sent: Friday, August 17, 2018 2:16 PM To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. Subject: SPAM -> Re: [Framers] Frame2017 slow on network?? I had the same problem. Seems like the old FrameMaker I once knew and loved is no longer in existence. Jules On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 10:29 AM, Caroline Tabach wrote: > Hi, > > Our purchase of Frame went through. > > I am working on Frame 2017, with my files on the network > > In the past I always worked locally. > > FrameMaker seems a bit slow to me. > > Is this owing to working from the network? > > > > -- > Caroline Tabach > Technical/Marcom Writer > e-mail: caroline.tab...@gmail.com > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/ > framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/ > listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Frame2017 slow on network??
I had the same problem. Seems like the old FrameMaker I once knew and loved is no longer in existence. Jules On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 10:29 AM, Caroline Tabach wrote: > Hi, > > Our purchase of Frame went through. > > I am working on Frame 2017, with my files on the network > > In the past I always worked locally. > > FrameMaker seems a bit slow to me. > > Is this owing to working from the network? > > > > -- > Caroline Tabach > Technical/Marcom Writer > e-mail: caroline.tab...@gmail.com > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/ > framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/ > listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
