Re: [Framers] Nostalgia - was Re: FrameMaker 2015
Oh my Lin...what a list! Some I remember and used, others I don't. Now I know why you've always been so quick to pick up the techie stuff! J On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 1:46 PM Lin Sims wrote: > I started out as a temp, not a tech writer, which meant I got to work on a > whole LOT of systems. My agencies used to send me when someone called in > with a program they'd never heard of, because they figured I either knew it > or could figure it out very quickly. Alphabetically, they were, > > DECmate (?) > FrameMaker > MASS-11 > Multimate > Office Writer > PC-Write > Philips Micom > Volkswriter > Wang > WordPerfect > WordStar > XyWrite > emacs (VERY LITTLE) > vi (even less) > > On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 12:32 PM L Larson wrote: > > > Wow, this brings up SO many memories... > > > > Does anyone remember Micom, where an 8" floppy could hold as much as 100 > > pages of straight text? How about Displaywriter, one of the first to move > > from a dedicated system to a PC? > > > > Later, I remember having to choose between Word Perfect, WordStar, and > > Word for a PC, and chose Word Perfect because it favored keyboard > commands > > over Word's menu commands and a cleaner look than WordStar. > > > > Those were the days when Wang and Interleaf were used by companies like > > General Motors. > > > > Finally, in the early 90s, I was able to move to an early version of FM > > for large document sets. What a joy it was then! > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Framers > > > On Behalf Of Jerilynne Knight > > Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 6:56 AM > > To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. < > > framers@lists.frameusers.com> > > Subject: Re: [Framers] Nostalgia - was Re: FrameMaker 2015 > > > > Hey there Peter, I totally forgot about WordStar! I'm still a keyboard > > shortcuts person and grumble heartily when they're not available. I can > do > > things so much more quickly with the keyboard! > > > > J > > 317.593.5551 > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 10:11 PM Peter Gold > > wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 7:31 PM Robert Lauriston > > > wrote: > > > > > > > I used FullWrite on an SE/30 in the late 80s. I think it was my > > > > preferred word processor for a while. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage > > at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at > > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > > ___ > > > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > > Archives located at > > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > > > > > -- > Lin Sims > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Nostalgia - was Re: FrameMaker 2015
Wowser Robert, talk about a background! Which makes me laugh at a recent comment by a young man of 34 when I said something about technology in the late 70s and early 80s. The comment: "They had technology back then?" This story definitely proves that yes, grasshopper, they did! Ouch, lol! On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 2:00 PM Robert Lauriston wrote: > In the late 70s and 80s I made my living typing, mostly at law firms, > so I saw the whole evolution firsthand. When I started it was > typewriters with carbon paper and Wite-Out. Then came IBM Correcting > Selectric ball typewriters and Xerox machines, then IBM Mag Card or > occasionally the MT/ST tape version, then came the DisplayWriter or at > bigger places Wang minicomputers with terminals. Somewhere in the > mid-80s I started seeing laser printers at big places. > > > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Nostalgia - was Re: FrameMaker 2015
Hi Bjorn...I didn't follow Ventura that far into present time, although I loved it when I learned it a Xerox. Once Corel took it over, I though I was the only one who was both disappointed and disgusted with the poor job they were doing! On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 5:00 PM Studio Smalbro wrote: > I followed Ventura all the way from the early versions on floppy disks > to the latest Corel Version 10. ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Nostalgia - was Re: FrameMaker 2015
I got a job with a company who used Ventura on the GEM environment. It allowed me to shoot myself in the foot so easily. But, once I learned how to apply the rules, etc., I was amazed. And this was on DOS-based machines with a 8086 chip and only 640 kb of RAM. But, yes, Corel did not do it justice. On Tue, 7 Apr 2020 at 05:05, Jerilynne Knight wrote: > Hi Bjorn...I didn't follow Ventura that far into present time, although I > loved it when I learned it a Xerox. Once Corel took it over, I though I was > the only one who was both disappointed and disgusted with the poor job they > were doing! > > > > > On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 5:00 PM Studio Smalbro wrote: > > > I followed Ventura all the way from the early versions on floppy disks > > to the latest Corel Version 10. > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Nostalgia - was Re: FrameMaker 2015
Oh wowser Mark...I forgot about the Gem environment! And I remember that DOS-based machine...had one of them! J On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 2:42 PM Mark Soiseth wrote: > I got a job with a company who used Ventura on the GEM environment. It > allowed me to shoot myself in the foot so easily. But, once I learned how > to apply the rules, etc., I was amazed. And this was on DOS-based machines > with a 8086 chip and only 640 kb of RAM. > > > ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Nostalgia - was Re: FrameMaker 2015
Oh lordy Peter, don't even get me started on that topic!!! lol On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 10:01 PM Peter Gold wrote: > Corel's not the first company to have shot itself in the foot. Many of us > have first-have experience. Oooops, should that be "first-foot?" > > > ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Nostalgia - was Re: FrameMaker 2015
Dang autocorrect. Should have been "first-hand" not "first-have." Ok, I won't start your feet moving down that path. ;) On Tue, Apr 7, 2020, 9:13 PM Jerilynne Knight wrote: > Oh lordy Peter, don't even get me started on that topic!!! lol > > > > On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 10:01 PM Peter Gold > wrote: > > > Corel's not the first company to have shot itself in the foot. Many of us > > have first-have experience. Oooops, should that be "first-foot?" > > > > > > > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > > ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Nostalgia - was Re: FrameMaker 2015
Corel's not the first company to have shot itself in the foot. Many of us have first-have experience. Oooops, should that be "first-foot?" On Tue, Apr 7, 2020, 1:41 PM Mark Soiseth wrote: > I got a job with a company who used Ventura on the GEM environment. It > allowed me to shoot myself in the foot so easily. But, once I learned how > to apply the rules, etc., I was amazed. And this was on DOS-based machines > with a 8086 chip and only 640 kb of RAM. > > But, yes, Corel did not do it justice. > > On Tue, 7 Apr 2020 at 05:05, Jerilynne Knight > wrote: > > > Hi Bjorn...I didn't follow Ventura that far into present time, although I > > loved it when I learned it a Xerox. Once Corel took it over, I though I > was > > the only one who was both disappointed and disgusted with the poor job > they > > were doing! > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 5:00 PM Studio Smalbro wrote: > > > > > I followed Ventura all the way from the early versions on floppy disks > > > to the latest Corel Version 10. > > ___ > > > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > > Archives located at > > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > > > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > > ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
