AW: Setting page size to show bleeds
Hi, It´s no problem to get bookmarks and cropmarks. The only prerequisite is that your paper size is larger than the page size. You can set up the paper size easily in File | Print Setup. Then print to file with any Registration Marks selected and Generate Acrobat Data activated. In Acrobat click on Document | Crop Pages and click on Set to Zero and select the page range. That´s it. You should have bookmarks and crop marks. Best regards Winfried -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Auftrag von Bodvar Bjorgvinsson Gesendet: Dienstag, 28. Februar 2006 10:14 An: Scott White Cc: Framers Betreff: Re: Setting page size to show bleeds I found this out the other day. I feel it is a Distiller Bug. Maybe Adobe feels it is a feature? ;-) Seriously, why shouldn't we be allowed to distill a document with both crop marks AND bookmarks if we really want to? Bodvar On 2/27/06, Scott White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I bet that is it. Didn't know that on the pc. -- Scott White Media Production Manager AlaMark Technologies 210-704-8239 [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 22:16:19 + To: Scott White [EMAIL PROTECTED], Framers framers@FrameUsers.com Subject: Re: Setting page size to show bleeds Is Generate Acrobat Data is turned on in the Print dialog? If it is, you won't get crops or bleeds. Pat Christenson -- Original message -- From: Scott White [EMAIL PROTECTED] Folks I was at a client's site last week and training the clients on our software and framemaker on the PC. When it came to distilling the files and creating pdfs that show bleeds I could not get the pages to cooperate. I went in and changed the print output from letter size to tabloid and I also changed my distiller page size to tabloid. I selected show crop marks. After creating the postscript file and then opening that file in distiller the pdf page format was still letter size which of course showed no bleeds nor crops marks. I use a MAC here and these steps are how I create my printer pdfs on the Mac. I then can show both the bleed tabs and crop marks. I have not done much outputting with a pc version of Frame. IS there something I missed? Client was using Frame 7.1, distiller 7.0. I use frame 7.0 distiller 5.0. -- Scott White Media Production Manager AlaMark Technologies 210-704-8239 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/pxenson%40 comcast.net Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/wreng%40tycoint.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Bulleted list bug when saving as XML in 7.0p579
I have a chapter where page 1 ends with a bulleted list, page 2 then starts with a Heading (Heading1_TOP), which is the counterpart to Heading1 but simply has a Start of 'Top of page'. It looks like so: -- start page 1 Summary Reports Introduction This section describes creating summary reports that summarize information, such as the total value of orders, without printing detailed information from each record. You will see how to create a number of reports. It is recommended that you are familiar with the previous section, as some of the steps to create summary reports are similar and are summarized here. Topics covered include: . categorizing data across and down the page . categorizing data by year and month . hiding row totals showing column totals . displaying totals and record counts . displaying percentages . ranking . drilling down into your report data . creating dynamic sum categories -- end of page 1 -- start of page 2 Creating a Summary Report Using the Report Wizard The steps involved in creating a summary report are similar to creating a list report. -- end of page 2 But the XML generated by FrameMaker looks like this: XML TITLE /TITLE ChapterNo /ChapterNo ChapterHeadSummary Reports/ChapterHead Heading1Introduction/Heading1 BodyThis section describes creating summary reports that summarize information, such as the total value of orders, without printing detailed information from each record. /Body BodyYou will see how to create a number of reports. It is recommended that you are familiar with the previous section, as some of the steps to create summary reports are similar and are summarized here./Body BodyTopics covered include:/Body BulletedList Bulletedcategorizing data across and down the page/Bulleted Bulletedcategorizing data by year and month/Bulleted Bulletedhiding row totals amp; showing column totals/Bulleted Bulleteddisplaying totals and record counts/Bulleted Bulleteddisplaying percentages/Bulleted Bulletedranking/Bulleted Bulleteddrilling down into your report data/Bulleted Bulletedcreating dynamic sum categories/Bulleted Heading1-TOPCreating a Summary Report Using the Report Wizard/Heading1-TOP /BulletedList BodyThe steps involved in creating a summary report are similar to creating a list report./Body Heading2Choosing the Report Type/Heading2 The closing BulletedList tag /BulletedList comes after the Heading1-TOP tag on the next page, which is highly illogical. Does anyone know why and if it's been fixed in 7.1 or 7.2 as that would give me much needed ammo in my quest to upgrade. If I change the Heading tag for page 2 to Heading1 with an override to start at the top of the page then the XML is generated correctly and the /BulletedList tag comes where you'd expect it to. However I want to avoid using paragraph overrides. TIA Karen West Technical Writer Cyberscience Corp http://www.cyberscience.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Setting page size to show bleeds
I think it's a feature, instead of a bug. You need to have the full Acrobat product to make it work properly, though. The full page is being printed, but Acrobat hides the cropped area unless you want it shown. After you distill, open the document in Acrobat. Change the crop settings. In Acrobat 6.0, it's DocumentPagesCrop. I think they've moved it for Acrobat 7, but the option should still be available. HTH, Ian Bodvar Bjorgvinsson wrote: I found this out the other day. I feel it is a Distiller Bug. Maybe Adobe feels it is a feature? ;-) Seriously, why shouldn't we be allowed to distill a document with both crop marks AND bookmarks if we really want to? ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Setting page size to show bleeds and crops -- when page is reduced
This is an aside, but perhaps will save someone some work (and closely relates to the topic being discussed). I have a client who in final pages ask us to reduce the page size by 10% to increase white space. Easy to scale to 90%, but that also reduces your trim marks. To print at 90% and have trim marks for the full page you need to do the following: (1) print with trim marks off (2) in Acrobat (7) go to tools/print production/crop pages and crop page to final trim size (3) use tools/print production/add printer marks to add printer marks. Click through the warning dialog. You won't be able to see them yet, but they are there. (4) use tools/print production/crop pages to remove the original crop marks and extend the page size. Now the (larger) page size shows the reduced text and the proper trim marks for the trim size at 100%. -bob Robert Kern President, TIPS Technical Publishing, Inc. 108 E. Main Street, Suite 4 Carrboro, NC 27510 www.technicalpublishing.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] 919-933-2629 phone and fax Ian Hawkins wrote: I think it's a feature, instead of a bug. You need to have the full Acrobat product to make it work properly, though. The full page is being printed, but Acrobat hides the cropped area unless you want it shown. After you distill, open the document in Acrobat. Change the crop settings. In Acrobat 6.0, it's DocumentPagesCrop. I think they've moved it for Acrobat 7, but the option should still be available. HTH, Ian Bodvar Bjorgvinsson wrote: I found this out the other day. I feel it is a Distiller Bug. Maybe Adobe feels it is a feature? ;-) Seriously, why shouldn't we be allowed to distill a document with both crop marks AND bookmarks if we really want to? ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bob%40technicalpublishing.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Bulleted list bug when saving as XML in 7.0p579
Peter Gold wrote: Just a guess: is it possible that the hyphen in Heading1-TOP is the problem? Try renaming it with underscore. It is indeed, but it's the other way around. In Frame my tag is called Heading1_TOP which translates in XML to Heading1-TOP. If I change it to Heading1-TOP in Frame then the problem is resolved, so it's the underscore that is causing the problem. Doesn't XML like underscores? Thanks for your help Peter. Karen ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Bulleted list bug when saving as XML in 7.0p579
You're welcome, Karen! I don't know enough to be certain, but I suspect that you might benefit from those FM-XML behaviors that were improved in version 7.1 and 7.2. At 2:19 PM + 2/28/06, Karen West wrote: Peter Gold wrote: Just a guess: is it possible that the hyphen in Heading1-TOP is the problem? Try renaming it with underscore. It is indeed, but it's the other way around. In Frame my tag is called Heading1_TOP which translates in XML to Heading1-TOP. If I change it to Heading1-TOP in Frame then the problem is resolved, so it's the underscore that is causing the problem. Doesn't XML like underscores? Thanks for your help Peter. Karen -- Regards, Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Conditions for paragraph tags?
Hi all, We'd like to add a condition marker to certain numbered paragraph tags, for instance, to be able to show tables with or without the table title. With the NoTitle condition on, the table title would not show; with the NoTitle off, the table title would be shown. Is is possible to type the condition marker to the numering properties in the Paragrah Designer for the table title paragraph tag? If yes, how is it done? Many thanks in advance, Annu Annu Rantamäki, Technical Writer Varian Medical Systems Finland Paciuksenkatu 21, 00270 Helsinki Tel. +358 9 43077240, Fax +358 9 4554585 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Be happy while y'er leevin', for y'er a lang time deid. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Conditions for paragraph tags?
Annu Rantamäki wrote on 02/28/2006 09:05:26 AM: We'd like to add a condition marker to certain numbered paragraph tags, Not possible to do automatically, but you can do it in a Find/Replace. Apply the desired conditions to one paragraph, copy specialconditional format, and then search for the paragraph tag with replace by pasting selected. HTH, Eric L. Dunn Senior Technical Writer ___ This e-mail communication (and any attachment/s) may contain confidential or privileged information and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and to others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by reply e-mail, and delete the e-mail subsequently. Thank you. _ Ce message (ainsi que le(s) fichier/s), transmis par courriel, peut contenir des renseignements confidentiels ou protégés et est destiné à l?usage exclusif du destinataire ci-dessus. Toute autre personne est par les présentes avisée qu?il est strictement interdit de le diffuser, le distribuer ou le reproduire. Si vous l?avez reçu par inadvertance, veuillez nous en aviser et détruire ce message. Merci. _ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Conditions for paragraph tags?
Hi Annu... I know of no way to do this other than through a plugin or FrameScript. It would be a fairly simple plugin to develop .. if you're interested, contact me (or any other plugin developer) off list. Regards, Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 Annu Rantamaki wrote: Hi all, We'd like to add a condition marker to certain numbered paragraph tags, for instance, to be able to show tables with or without the table title. With the NoTitle condition on, the table title would not show; with the NoTitle off, the table title would be shown. Is is possible to type the condition marker to the numering properties in the Paragrah Designer for the table title paragraph tag? If yes, how is it done? Many thanks in advance, Annu Annu Rantamäki, Technical Writer Varian Medical Systems Finland Paciuksenkatu 21, 00270 Helsinki Tel. +358 9 43077240, Fax +358 9 4554585 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Be happy while y'er leevin', for y'er a lang time deid. ___ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Conditions for paragraph tags?
At 06:05 AM 2/28/2006, Annu Rantamaki wrote: We'd like to add a condition marker to certain numbered paragraph tags, for instance, to be able to show tables with or without the table title. With the NoTitle condition on, the table title would not show; with the NoTitle off, the table title would be shown. Annu, As others have explained, you cannot make paragraph tags conditional. Since what you want to do, however, is to show or hide table titles, there are at least a couple of techniques you can try: 1) Move the table titles into heading rows that straddle all columns. You can make a table row conditional. 2) Edit the document with table titles showing. You can delete the table titles by changing the Title Position property in the table format to No Title. If you want to change only some table titles, you can set this property only for tables with a particular table tag, or for tables with a tag containing a specified string. Just make sure not to save this version of the file unless you give it a new name; the table titles really will be gone. --Lynne Lynne A. Price Text Structure Consulting, Inc. Specializing in structured FrameMaker consulting, application development, and training [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.txstruct.com voice/fax: (510) 583-1505 cell phone: (510) 421-2284 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: TOC Formatting Problem
Hi all, I am new to FrameMaker (6.0). Could anyone describe how we can set / update / create / modify styles in 1. a book 2. its individual fms Thank you, Shall Close, Regards, David Flynn Technical Writer Tel: +91 11 26222890/1/2 Extn: 220 Fiorano Software www.fiorano.com _ Fiorano announces the availability of it's next generation platform - Fiorano SOAT 2006 Platform Learn more at http://www.fiorano.com/products/ Cut your SOA implementation time and cost by 80% today. Download and try Fiorano SOAT 2006 Platform at www.fiorano.com/downloads/ _ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Karen L. Zorn Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 11:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; framers@frameusers.com Subject: RE: TOC Formatting Problem John, As much as I've tried, the $chapnum variable just doesn't want to insert on the reference page. You have to type it once, then you can copy/paste. I've copied a chapter title line from one of my reference pages, works every time. I removed the character that separated the chapter number and the text. You can use what ever your style guide calls for. Chapter $paranumonly $paratext You don't need to specify the paragraph tag since you set that up when you first generate the TOC. Karen L. Zorn Zorn Technologies, Inc. Mesa, AZ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/davidaflynn%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
TOC Formatting Problem
FM7.0 p576 on Win XP The ?Chapter () TOC? para in my TOC has the tag ?Chapter <$paranum[Se ctTitle]> <$elemtextonly>?, which produces the text ?Overview and Specifications ?, whereas I want it to read ?Chapter 1 Overview and Specifications?. I thought that having the word ?Chapter? at the beginning of the tag wo uld have at least guaranteed that the word ?Chapter? would appear as I wanted it to, but no. I tried changing ?<$paranum[SectTitle]>? to ?<$paranum>? and to ?<$chapnum>? but this had no effect: any ideas why and how I can get what I want, please ? John Bevan This message was sent using MyMail
TOC Formatting Problem
I sent the following earlier today but didn't explain my self quite correct ly so I'll re-state the problem: FM7.0 p576 on Win XP The ?Chapter () TOC? para in my TOC has the tag ?Chapter <$paranum[Se ctTitle]> <$elemtextonly>?, which produces the text ?Overview and Specifications ? in my PDF file, whereas I want it to read ?Chapter 1 Overview and Specificatio ns?. The formatting is the way I want it in the FM TOC file itself, but it loses the "Chapter X" when printing to PDF. I thought that having the word ?Chapter? at the beginning of the tag wo uld have at least guaranteed that the word ?Chapter? would appear as I wanted it to, but no. I tried changing ?<$paranum[SectTitle]>? to ?<$paranum>? and to ?<$chapnum>? but this had no effect: ant ideas why? Karen Zorn since wrote that I needed <$paranum[SectTitle]><$paratext[SectTitle]> but this didn't work either. Th anks anyway, Karen. One other thing I noticed is that when I went to the reference page and tri ed to insert the ChapNum variable, the action only resulted in inserting the lett er 'a' ?that didn't work, either! (Other variables inserted as you'd expect) . John Bevan This message was sent using MyMail
Setting page size to show bleeds
I found this out the other day. I feel it is a Distiller Bug. Maybe Adobe feels it is a feature? ;-) Seriously, why shouldn't we be allowed to distill a document with both crop marks AND bookmarks if we really want to? Bodvar On 2/27/06, Scott White wrote: > I bet that is it. Didn't know that on the pc. > -- > Scott White > Media Production Manager > AlaMark Technologies > 210-704-8239 > swhite at alamark.com > > > > From: > > Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 22:16:19 + > > To: Scott White , Framers > > Subject: Re: Setting page size to show bleeds > > > > Is Generate Acrobat Data is turned on in the Print dialog? If it is, you > > won't > > get crops or bleeds. > > > > Pat Christenson > > -- Original message -- > > From: Scott White > >> Folks > >> I was at a client's site last week and training the clients on our software > >> and framemaker on the PC. > >> When it came to distilling the files and creating pdfs that show bleeds I > >> could not get the pages to cooperate. I went in and changed the print > >> output > >> from letter size to tabloid and I also changed my distiller page size to > >> tabloid. I selected show crop marks. > >> After creating the postscript file and then opening that file in distiller > >> the pdf page format was still letter size which of course showed no bleeds > >> nor crops marks. > >> I use a MAC here and these steps are how I create my printer pdfs on the > >> Mac. I then can show both the bleed tabs and crop marks. I have not done > >> much outputting with a pc version of Frame. IS there something I missed? > >> Client was using Frame 7.1, distiller 7.0. > >> I use frame 7.0 distiller 5.0. > >> -- > >> Scott White > >> Media Production Manager > >> AlaMark Technologies > >> 210-704-8239 > >> swhite at alamark.com > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> > >> > >> You are currently subscribed to Framers as pxenson at comcast.net. > >> > >> Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > >> > >> To unsubscribe send a blank email to > >> framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > >> or visit > >> http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/pxenson%40comcast.net > >> > >> Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit > >> http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > > > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as bodvar at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
AW: Setting page size to show bleeds
Hi, It?s no problem to get bookmarks and cropmarks. The only prerequisite is that your paper size is larger than the page size. You can set up the paper size easily in "File | Print Setup". Then print to file with any "Registration Marks" selected and "Generate Acrobat Data" activated. In Acrobat click on "Document | Crop Pages" and click on "Set to Zero" and select the page range. That?s it. You should have bookmarks and crop marks. Best regards Winfried > -Urspr?ngliche Nachricht- > Von: framers-bounces+wreng=tycoint.com at lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-bounces+wreng=tycoint.com at lists.frameusers.com]Im > Auftrag von Bodvar Bjorgvinsson > Gesendet: Dienstag, 28. Februar 2006 10:14 > An: Scott White > Cc: Framers > Betreff: Re: Setting page size to show bleeds > > > I found this out the other day. I feel it is a Distiller Bug. Maybe > Adobe feels it is a feature? ;-) > > Seriously, why shouldn't we be allowed to distill a document with both > crop marks AND bookmarks if we really want to? > > Bodvar > > On 2/27/06, Scott White wrote: > > I bet that is it. Didn't know that on the pc. > > -- > > Scott White > > Media Production Manager > > AlaMark Technologies > > 210-704-8239 > > swhite at alamark.com > > > > > > > From: > > > Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 22:16:19 + > > > To: Scott White , Framers > > > > Subject: Re: Setting page size to show bleeds > > > > > > Is Generate Acrobat Data is turned on in the Print > dialog? If it is, you won't > > > get crops or bleeds. > > > > > > Pat Christenson > > > -- Original message -- > > > From: Scott White > > >> Folks > > >> I was at a client's site last week and training the > clients on our software > > >> and framemaker on the PC. > > >> When it came to distilling the files and creating pdfs > that show bleeds I > > >> could not get the pages to cooperate. I went in and > changed the print output > > >> from letter size to tabloid and I also changed my > distiller page size to > > >> tabloid. I selected show crop marks. > > >> After creating the postscript file and then opening that > file in distiller > > >> the pdf page format was still letter size which of > course showed no bleeds > > >> nor crops marks. > > >> I use a MAC here and these steps are how I create my > printer pdfs on the > > >> Mac. I then can show both the bleed tabs and crop marks. > I have not done > > >> much outputting with a pc version of Frame. IS there > something I missed? > > >> Client was using Frame 7.1, distiller 7.0. > > >> I use frame 7.0 distiller 5.0. > > >> -- > > >> Scott White > > >> Media Production Manager > > >> AlaMark Technologies > > >> 210-704-8239 > > >> swhite at alamark.com > > >> > > >> > > >> ___ > > >> > > >> > > >> You are currently subscribed to Framers as pxenson at comcast.net. > > >> > > >> Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > >> > > >> To unsubscribe send a blank email to > > >> framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > > >> or visit > > >> > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/pxenson%40 comcast.net > >> > >> Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit > >> http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > > > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as bodvar at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as wreng at tycoint.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/wreng%40tycoint.com Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Bulleted list bug when saving as XML in 7.0p579
I have a chapter where page 1 ends with a bulleted list, page 2 then starts with a Heading (Heading1_TOP), which is the counterpart to Heading1 but simply has a Start of 'Top of page'. It looks like so: -- start page 1 Summary Reports Introduction This section describes creating summary reports that summarize information, such as the total value of orders, without printing detailed information from each record. You will see how to create a number of reports. It is recommended that you are familiar with the previous section, as some of the steps to create summary reports are similar and are summarized here. Topics covered include: . categorizing data across and down the page . categorizing data by year and month . hiding row totals & showing column totals . displaying totals and record counts . displaying percentages . ranking . drilling down into your report data . creating dynamic sum categories -- end of page 1 -- start of page 2 Creating a Summary Report Using the Report Wizard The steps involved in creating a summary report are similar to creating a list report. -- end of page 2 But the XML generated by FrameMaker looks like this: Summary Reports Introduction This section describes creating summary reports that summarize information, such as the total value of orders, without printing detailed information from each record. You will see how to create a number of reports. It is recommended that you are familiar with the previous section, as some of the steps to create summary reports are similar and are summarized here. Topics covered include: categorizing data across and down the page categorizing data by year and month hiding row totals showing column totals displaying totals and record counts displaying percentages ranking drilling down into your report data creating dynamic sum categories Creating a Summary Report Using the Report Wizard The steps involved in creating a summary report are similar to creating a list report. Choosing the Report Type The closing BulletedList tag comes after the tag on the next page, which is highly illogical. Does anyone know why and if it's been fixed in 7.1 or 7.2 as that would give me much needed ammo in my quest to upgrade. If I change the Heading tag for page 2 to Heading1 with an override to start at the top of the page then the XML is generated correctly and the tag comes where you'd expect it to. However I want to avoid using paragraph overrides. TIA Karen West Technical Writer Cyberscience Corp http://www.cyberscience.com
Setting page size to show bleeds
I think it's a feature, instead of a bug. You need to have the full Acrobat product to make it work properly, though. The full page is being printed, but Acrobat hides the cropped area unless you want it shown. After you distill, open the document in Acrobat. Change the crop settings. In Acrobat 6.0, it's Document>Pages>Crop. I think they've moved it for Acrobat 7, but the option should still be available. HTH, Ian Bodvar Bjorgvinsson wrote: >I found this out the other day. I feel it is a Distiller Bug. Maybe >Adobe feels it is a feature? ;-) > >Seriously, why shouldn't we be allowed to distill a document with both >crop marks AND bookmarks if we really want to? > >
Setting page size to show bleeds and crops -- when page is reduced
This is an aside, but perhaps will save someone some work (and closely relates to the topic being discussed). I have a client who in final pages ask us to reduce the page size by 10% to increase white space. Easy to scale to 90%, but that also reduces your trim marks. To print at 90% and have trim marks for the full page you need to do the following: (1) print with trim marks off (2) in Acrobat (7) go to tools/print production/crop pages and crop page to final trim size (3) use tools/print production/add printer marks to add printer marks. Click through the warning dialog. You won't be able to see them yet, but they are there. (4) use tools/print production/crop pages to remove the original crop marks and extend the page size. Now the (larger) page size shows the reduced text and the proper trim marks for the trim size at 100%. -bob Robert Kern President, TIPS Technical Publishing, Inc. 108 E. Main Street, Suite 4 Carrboro, NC 27510 www.technicalpublishing.com bob at technicalpublishing.com 919-933-2629 phone and fax Ian Hawkins wrote: > I think it's a feature, instead of a bug. You need to have the full > Acrobat product to make it work properly, though. The full page is > being printed, but Acrobat hides the cropped area unless you want it > shown. > > After you distill, open the document in Acrobat. Change the crop > settings. In Acrobat 6.0, it's Document>Pages>Crop. I think they've > moved it for Acrobat 7, but the option should still be available. > > HTH, > Ian > > Bodvar Bjorgvinsson wrote: > >> I found this out the other day. I feel it is a Distiller Bug. Maybe >> Adobe feels it is a feature? ;-) >> >> Seriously, why shouldn't we be allowed to distill a document with both >> crop marks AND bookmarks if we really want to? >> >> > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as bob at technicalpublishing.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bob%40technicalpublishing.com > > > > Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
Bulleted list bug when saving as XML in 7.0p579
Hi, Karen: Just a guess: is it possible that the hyphen in is the problem? Try renaming it with underscore. >I have a chapter where page 1 ends with a bulleted list, page 2 then starts >with a Heading (Heading1_TOP), which is the counterpart to Heading1 but >simply has a Start of 'Top of page'. It looks like so: [snipped] >The closing BulletedList tag comes after the >tag on the next page, which is highly illogical. Does anyone know why and if >it's been fixed in 7.1 or 7.2 as that would give me much needed ammo in my >quest to upgrade. > >If I change the Heading tag for page 2 to Heading1 with an override to start >at the top of the page then the XML is generated correctly and the > tag comes where you'd expect it to. However I want to avoid >using paragraph overrides. -- Regards, Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices
Bulleted list bug when saving as XML in 7.0p579
Peter Gold wrote: > Just a guess: is it possible that the hyphen in is the > problem? Try renaming it with underscore. It is indeed, but it's the other way around. In Frame my tag is called Heading1_TOP which translates in XML to Heading1-TOP. If I change it to Heading1-TOP in Frame then the problem is resolved, so it's the underscore that is causing the problem. Doesn't XML like underscores? Thanks for your help Peter. Karen
Bulleted list bug when saving as XML in 7.0p579
You're welcome, Karen! I don't know enough to be certain, but I suspect that you might benefit from those FM-XML behaviors that were improved in version 7.1 and 7.2. At 2:19 PM + 2/28/06, Karen West wrote: >Peter Gold wrote: > >> Just a guess: is it possible that the hyphen in is the >> problem? Try renaming it with underscore. > >It is indeed, but it's the other way around. In Frame my tag is called >Heading1_TOP which translates in XML to Heading1-TOP. If I change it to >Heading1-TOP in Frame then the problem is resolved, so it's the underscore >that is causing the problem. Doesn't XML like underscores? > >Thanks for your help Peter. > >Karen -- Regards, Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices
Conditions for paragraph tags?
Hi all, We'd like to add a condition marker to certain numbered paragraph tags, for instance, to be able to show tables with or without the table title. With the NoTitle condition on, the table title would not show; with the NoTitle off, the table title would be shown. Is is possible to type the condition marker to the numering properties in the Paragrah Designer for the table title paragraph tag? If yes, how is it done? Many thanks in advance, Annu Annu Rantam?ki, Technical Writer Varian Medical Systems Finland Paciuksenkatu 21, 00270 Helsinki Tel. +358 9 43077240, Fax +358 9 4554585 annu.rantamaki at varian.com Be happy while y'er leevin', for y'er a lang time deid.
Conditions for paragraph tags?
Annu Rantam?ki wrote on 02/28/2006 09:05:26 AM: > We'd like to add a condition marker to certain numbered paragraph > tags, Not possible to do automatically, but you can do it in a Find/Replace. Apply the desired conditions to one paragraph, copy special>conditional format, and then search for the paragraph tag with replace by pasting selected. HTH, Eric L. Dunn Senior Technical Writer ___ This e-mail communication (and any attachment/s) may contain confidential or privileged information and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and to others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by reply e-mail, and delete the e-mail subsequently. Thank you. _ Ce message (ainsi que le(s) fichier/s), transmis par courriel, peut contenir des renseignements confidentiels ou prot?g?s et est destin? ? l?usage exclusif du destinataire ci-dessus. Toute autre personne est par les pr?sentes avis?e qu?il est strictement interdit de le diffuser, le distribuer ou le reproduire. Si vous l?avez re?u par inadvertance, veuillez nous en aviser et d?truire ce message. Merci. _
Conditions for paragraph tags?
Hi Annu... I know of no way to do this other than through a plugin or FrameScript. It would be a fairly simple plugin to develop .. if you're interested, contact me (or any other plugin developer) off list. Regards, Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 Annu Rantamaki wrote: >Hi all, > >We'd like to add a condition marker to certain numbered paragraph tags, for >instance, to be able to show tables with or without the table title. With the >NoTitle condition on, the table title would not show; with the NoTitle off, >the table title would be shown. > >Is is possible to type the condition marker to the numering properties in the >Paragrah Designer for the table title paragraph tag? If yes, how is it done? > >Many thanks in advance, >Annu > > > >Annu Rantam?ki, Technical Writer >Varian Medical Systems Finland >Paciuksenkatu 21, 00270 Helsinki >Tel. +358 9 43077240, Fax +358 9 4554585 >annu.rantamaki at varian.com > >Be happy while y'er leevin', for y'er a lang time deid. >___ > > > >
Conditions for paragraph tags?
At 06:05 AM 2/28/2006, Annu Rantamaki wrote: >We'd like to add a condition marker to certain numbered paragraph tags, >for instance, to be able to show tables with or without the table title. >With the NoTitle condition on, the table title would not show; with the >NoTitle off, the table title would be shown. Annu, As others have explained, you cannot make paragraph tags conditional. Since what you want to do, however, is to show or hide table titles, there are at least a couple of techniques you can try: 1) Move the table titles into heading rows that straddle all columns. You can make a table row conditional. 2) Edit the document with table titles showing. You can delete the table titles by changing the Title Position property in the table format to No Title. If you want to change only some table titles, you can set this property only for tables with a particular table tag, or for tables with a tag containing a specified string. Just make sure not to save this version of the file unless you give it a new name; the table titles really will be gone. --Lynne Lynne A. Price Text Structure Consulting, Inc. Specializing in structured FrameMaker consulting, application development, and training lprice at txstruct.comhttp://www.txstruct.com voice/fax: (510) 583-1505 cell phone: (510) 421-2284
Conditions for paragraph tags?
Hi, Annu: (Apologies if this is a duplication. I thought I replied to this post, but didn't see it appear on the list.) One approach is to apply a condition to the table title row, to show/hide the complete title. However, if your intent is to control whether or not the autonumber appears, but always display the table title text, you have these options: * use two paragraph formats for table titles; a run-in format that contains the autonumber, and an "in-column" (normal) format that contains the text. Use Edit > Copy Special to place an example of the condition on the clipboard, then use Find/Replace > By Pasting to find and paste the condition on all instances of the run-in paragraph, in a single file, or across a book of files. Show/Hide the condition to control the appearance of the autonumbers. * import one of two templates to control the appearance of the autonumbers. One template defines the table title paragraph with autonumbering, the other defines it without autonumbering. The template can also have condition settings, to accomplish several actions at one time, either to a single file or a book of files. HTH Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices At 2:05 PM + 2/28/06, Annu Rantamaki wrote: >Hi all, > >We'd like to add a condition marker to certain numbered paragraph >tags, for instance, to be able to show tables with or without the >table title. With the NoTitle condition on, the table title would >not show; with the NoTitle off, the table title would be shown. > >Is is possible to type the condition marker to the numering >properties in the Paragrah Designer for the table title paragraph >tag? If yes, how is it done? > >Many thanks in advance,
Opentype/special characters
Please forgive me if this has been covered a million times... I'm using FrameMaker 7.1 on Windows XP with Opentype fonts, but I'm primarily a Macintosh person. It's my understanding that Opentype expands the Windows character set, but I can't find anything like a Glyphs palette or a keyboard command that will enable me to enter a simple "less than or equal" sign without having to resort to the Symbol font. Is there a way to coax special characters out of Opentype fonts on FrameMaker Win? Many thanks. --Donna Reynolds
Opentype/special characters
Donna, FrameMaker does not directly support the extended character sets available in many OpenType fonts. There are some registry hacks that can be performed to provide a "window" over other parts of the font, but such techniques are not supported or endorsed by Adobe AND can leave you with documents that are incompatible with future versions of FrameMaker! - Dov > -Original Message- > From: D L Reynolds > Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 3:34 PM > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Opentype/special characters > > Please forgive me if this has been covered a million times... > > I'm using FrameMaker 7.1 on Windows XP with Opentype fonts, but I'm > primarily a Macintosh person. It's my understanding that Opentype > expands the Windows character set, but I can't find anything like a > Glyphs palette or a keyboard command that will enable me to enter a > simple "less than or equal" sign without having to resort to the > Symbol font. > > Is there a way to coax special characters out of Opentype fonts on > FrameMaker Win? > > Many thanks. > > --Donna Reynolds
