RE: Translation question

2007-03-17 Thread Ann Zdunczyk 
It was a song by Ozzie Nelson. 


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Behalf Of John Sgammato
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 7:39 PM
To: Gillian Flato; framers@FrameUsers.com
Subject: RE: Translation question

unbidden from some dark corner of my mind, the memory I'm looking for a man
who plays alto and baritone, doubles on  the clarinet, and wears a size 37
suit.
I have no idea where I remember that from. 
But whoever said it may be related to your VP...



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf
of Gillian Flato
Sent: Fri 3/16/2007 6:19 PM
To: framers@FrameUsers.com
Subject: Translation question



Guys,

A VP at my company wants to hire a person whose main job functions are the
following:

Translate technical writing docs to Korean Train the Korean FSE's on the
procedures in the docs.

He also wants the same position for Japanese.

Any idea the type of salary this person would command? Know anyone who
qualifies?

He thinks this would be cheaper than using a translation house since we have
thousands of procedures that need translation and more efficient since the
person would also be a trainer.


Thank you,



mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Gillian Flato

Technical Writer (Software)

nanometrics

1550 Buckeye Dr.

Milpitas, CA. 95035

(408.435.9600 x 316

7  408.232.5911

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anticipating a move to Structrued Frame

2007-03-17 Thread mc...@allette.com.au 
Fred said:

> But the point remains that the best way to prepare depends greatly on
> what your goals and objectives are.

... and went on to make several other excellent points.

John said:

> I think the single biggest obstacle to my adoption of Structured
> FrameMaker has been exactly this sort of discussion. I have searched
> and searched and failed to find a straightforward high-level doc that
> tells me what the project is based on my business needs.

That's because structure is a toolbox, not a product. If it was a product
it would be fair to ask "how do I use it?", but it's not fair to decry a
toolbox because it has no manual describing what it can fix. If you don't
understand what you're trying to fix, then get a mechanic. (Okay, I've
worn out the metaphor.)

I recommend that people get a consultant for this stuff not only because
I'm occasionally a consultant, but because in 15 years of SGML and XML
projects, I've seen endless heartbreaking failures.

> All I need is an article that introduces the various concepts and tells
> me which structure concepts belong in my project and which I can safely
> ignore for now:

In order to establish which concepts belong in your project, you need
first to evaluate the requirements and capabilities of your organisation,
for example:

 o the capability of current staff, as well as the will to replace them
   if required,
 o the long-term requirements for data handling and use,
 o migration strategies from current systems,
 o ROI,
 o evaluation of emerging technical directions in data management,

These are corporate decisions - once you get them sorted out, you could
start looking at which concepts belong in your project, but as I'm sure
you'd appreciate, the value of the advice is diluting quickly based on the
corporate uncertainty.

> Structured authoring can do many things. Here are some case studies.
>
> Alice needs A; here is an effective solution for A, using DITA.

If it was that easy to decide on a strategy, then we wouldn't be having
this discussion. The reason that these articles don't exist is that anyone
with sufficient experience to write one knows that it would be
irresponsible to do so. It would mislead people.

Here's a real-world case study:

The Australian DoD was in the market for some new helicopters. They
settled on the Tiger from Eurocopter. One attraction was that the
documentation would be delivered in S1000D format - a standard for
SGML/XML data that the Australians are also very keen on. Perfect fit,
right? Pretty much, except that there were a couple of discrepancies in
the data. S1000D provides for modules to be nested at various depths. The
Aussies settled on two depths but the portion of the data that came from
France was nested to three levels, requiring transformation to try to
shoe-horn into two levels. Oh yeah, after they translated all of the text
out of French. Yep, they forgot to agree on the language that it would be
delivered in.

Saying that Dennis used DITA and Doris used DocBook is about as useful as
saying that "today it's sunny in both Honalulu and Antarctica". It's the
details that kill you.


Marcus

anticipating a move to Structrued Frame

2007-03-17 Thread mc...@allette.com.au 

John wrote:

> But all I get are:
>
> * Offerings from vendors claiming to be THE answer for all my needs
even when they don't know what my needs may be.

Yes, that fits the profile of a vendor all right.

> * Endless extensive discussions from knowledgeable folk who tell me
>   all the grand glory of structure, but no answers at all.

Hmmm, sounds like a worldwide conspiracy to keep knowledge from the person
on the street. I feel a bit hurt - those damned knowledgeable folk never
include me in their evil plots... :-)


Marcus

Translation question

2007-03-17 Thread Ann Zdunczyk 
It was a song by "Ozzie Nelson". 


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Ann Zdunczyk
President
a2z Publishing, Inc.
Language Layout & Translation Consulting
Phone: (336)922-1271
Fax:   (336)922-4980
Cell:  (336)456-4493
http://www.a2z-pub.com
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-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+azdunczyk=triad.rr@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+azdunczyk=triad.rr.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of John Sgammato
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 7:39 PM
To: Gillian Flato; framers at FrameUsers.com
Subject: RE: Translation question

unbidden from some dark corner of my mind, the memory "I'm looking for a man
who plays alto and baritone, doubles on  the clarinet, and wears a size 37
suit."
I have no idea where I remember that from. 
But whoever said it may be related to your VP...



From: framers-bounces+jsgammato=imprivata@lists.frameusers.com on behalf
of Gillian Flato
Sent: Fri 3/16/2007 6:19 PM
To: framers at FrameUsers.com
Subject: Translation question



Guys,

A VP at my company wants to hire a person whose main job functions are the
following:

Translate technical writing docs to Korean Train the Korean FSE's on the
procedures in the docs.

He also wants the same position for Japanese.

Any idea the type of salary this person would command? Know anyone who
qualifies?

He thinks this would be cheaper than using a translation house since we have
thousands of procedures that need translation and more efficient since the
person would also be a trainer.


Thank you,





Gillian Flato

Technical Writer (Software)

nanometrics

1550 Buckeye Dr.

Milpitas, CA. 95035

(408.435.9600 x 316

7  408.232.5911

* gflato at nanometrics  .com



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