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Hi all:
I have nine Chapter Titles that feed the TOC.
The format of the title is [Variable] [Chapter Title Name] and the
whole thing is tagged Chapter Title.
Two chapter titles have a bold T in front of the variable. Neither
the variable nor the chapter title is cross-referenced in the rest of
And in my TOC, the Chapter Titles all have the outline box in front of
them, and the second level headings all have the bold T in front of
them.
I thought the bold T meant cross-reference? I still don't know what
the outlined box means.
Thanks,
Deirdre
On 7/2/08, Deirdre Reagan [EMAIL
Were these templates imported from MS Word, by any chance? That can be
the source of strange characters.
As for the upside down T, that can be any one of several different
kinds of marker. If you have ever cross-referenced something to that
paragraph the marker will remain, even if the
Thanks, Clint.
The outline box is a little box that is appearing before the first
letter of the text. I tried to delete it and it moved to behind the
text.
Thank you for setting my mind at ease about these not affecting the
text. I'm being asked to make changes to these documents and I'm
All,
I'm running FM7.2 on WinXP doing unstructured docs with text insets, using
condition tags to control which insets show in this particular file, in a
single-sourced, multiple-author environment. All the graphics are imported by
reference, and all have callout applied within the anchored
Dear FM Gurus,
Any thoughts on the possibility of creating condition-specific paragraph tags
(eg para_red, para_blue) that would somehow magically set an associated
condition?
Ben
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In Paragraph Designer Default Font, set the color to Red and create a new tag.
That worked for me.
Deirdre
On 7/2/08, Ben Hechter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear FM Gurus,
Any thoughts on the possibility of creating condition-specific paragraph tags
(eg para_red, para_blue) that would
OK, bad example. How about para_chocolate, para_strawberry, para_neapolitan?
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 2:14 PM, Deirdre Reagan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In Paragraph Designer Default Font, set the color to Red and create a new tag.
That worked for me.
Deirdre
On 7/2/08, Ben Hechter [EMAIL
Do you mean if chocolate, strawberry, or neapolitan were color
choices? I know you can create your own color then add it to the
color palette and it shows up in the Paragraph Designer.
Deirdre
On 7/2/08, Ben Hechter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OK, bad example. How about para_chocolate,
Try LaserBengali font from Linguist's Software. I have personally not used the
Bengali font, but I have used their Gurmukhi (for tyesetting Punjabi) and some
other fonts with diacritical marks. It works pretty well. The support fonts for
over 365 languages for Mac and Windows.
Linguist's
Shlomo, Art - thank you for your suggestions.
The problem is that I'm linking to destinations in the same file - so
unchecking Open cross-document links in same window doesn't work.
I've had a quick look at TimeSavers, and it seems the same applies (only
for cross-document links, not
Dear Framers,
It's been a long time since I've lurked into the Framers' list. Hence, I have
no idea
how to search inside the list archives. Can anyone help?
Best regards,
Lutz
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Hi All:
I have developed a FrameMaker manual and an RoboHelp 7 online help system for
the same product using the Tech Com Suite. I need to retroactively turn the
manual and the help into a single source version, which I did not do on initial
development because of time considerations and lack
Dear all,
Does anyone know how to import files created with Ventura? I have loads of
manual files
here that come from various Ventura versions (pre and post Corel). I understand
Framemaker
only imports files from versions 3 and 4? Were these before Corel?
Until now, I was only able to import
Reply to:
Message: 20
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 15:34:38 -0600
From: Linda G. Gallagher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Sort order of entries in an index
What do you mean by a complete index entry? It doesn't seem to have to
match
the complete second level portion of the index entry, so I'm not
You can add this to the wish list for future releases, but FrameMaker
does currently support automatically assigning a condition based on
paragraph (character, table) tags, although it is fairly simple to
automate this via an FDK client or FrameScript.
So I'm a bit confused by Deirdre's
Hi Lester and all.
Ah yes, I misunderstood condition. He wants to apply a condition tag
to a paragraph tag, is that right?
I can change the color in a paragraph tag, and I can change the color
in a condition tag, but to apply a condition tag to a paragraph tag,
that I don't know how to do.
Hi Ben...
If you're trying to make it so when you tag a paragraph with a
particular style, it also applies a named condition to that paragraph,
you'd have to do that with an FDK plugin or FrameScript. It can be done,
but not out of the box.
...scott
Scott Prentice
Leximation, Inc.
Rene Stephenson wrote:
Somehow, one of the container FM files got some setting changed that
made
all the text frames in that one file have sideheads. Now, our
templates for
the container file do have sideheads on the master pages for the body
text
frames, but if that were the source of the
Plueckhahn, Lutz wrote:
It's been a long time since I've lurked into the Framers' list. Hence,
I
have no idea
how to search inside the list archives. Can anyone help?
In a Google search box, type searchstring site:frameusers.com (sans
quotes).
Richard
Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical
Plueckhahn, Lutz wrote:
Does anyone know how to import files created with Ventura? I have
loads of
manual files
here that come from various Ventura versions (pre and post Corel). I
understand Framemaker
only imports files from versions 3 and 4? Were these before Corel?
Waaay before (and
Clint:
Nope, no tab or space in the autonumber box.
The boxes don't effect the printed output at all. As far as I've been
able to determine, they are markers that point to the file I used to
create these files.
The first file, the one with the T, I renamed to a new name. The T
marker points to
Ben Hechter wrote:
Any thoughts on the possibility of creating condition-specific
paragraph
tags (eg para_red, para_blue) that would somehow magically set an
associated condition?
Others have pointed out that such magic requires a script or plug-in.
But unless you need to do this _a lot_,
Hi, Dierdre:
The T characters before your chapter headings are markers that are
created if you check Create Hypertext Links in the Table of Contents
dialog box. These markers enable the ability to jump from a TOC entry
to its source by clicking it in a PDF. In FM, you can use the
combination
Have you tried to copy an example of the condition to the clipboard
with Edit Copy Special, then Find a paragraph format and Replace by
Pasting, with Replace All enabled?
HTH
Regards,
Peter
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KnowHow ProServices
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You
If Richard's solution doesn't fix, try verifying your Master Page frames
have Sideheads off as well (all of 'em)
If that doesn't fix it, you might want to investigate your Text Inset files,
though I doubt it's that deep.
-Matt Sullivan
GRAFIX Training, Inc.
An Adobe Authorized Training
Thanks for responding, Richard!
Sorry about the rather circular description. It's definitely one of those 1
picture vs. 1000 words scenarios. You'd get it at a glance if you could see
what I see.
I thought about that, but the Flow Tag A is set to .5 sideheads, and the
sideheads in these text
Thanks, Peter, an interesting idea to check out.
My main motivation is to make conditions more visible, to avoid later
confusion/errors due to conditions being a hidden attribute.
Ben
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OK, Steve solved it. The key was the length of the numeric strings that I
wanted it sort on. I had to have the same number of digits in the [ ] for
sorting, and I'd been inconsistent; some where three digits and some were
four. My bad!
So, my sort needed to be one of these:
[0070 mm]
[0090 mm]
Hi, Ben:
From your comment below, I'm not sure if you're aware of condition
indicators. You can create them with text attributes like overline,
underline, and strikethrough, plus a color - either one of the default
FM colors, or a custom color you create. You can opt to show or hide
these
This is what I would be inclined to do, what Martin suggested. It
strikes me as pointless having more master pages than the final
document page count, when instead you can simply type the date the
page was edited.
From your post I think you want any edits on the page to be reflected
in
Deirdre,
Just because the text is in the position of a footer on a page does
not mean it therefore has to be on a master page.
Cheers
Alan
On 2/07/2008, at 9:55 AM, Deirdre Reagan wrote:
> Thanks all for these responses.
>
> The solution for my specific issue is to have multiple master
Front Runner's September course lineup is set to be Advanced level seminars
and courses in FrameMaker and Acrobat. Have a look to see what we're
offering...
Framescript is a tool that allows you to automate many of the manual tasks
in FrameMaker publishing that normally consumes hours every day.
Hi all:
I have nine Chapter Titles that feed the TOC.
The format of the title is [Variable] [Chapter Title Name] and the
whole thing is tagged Chapter Title.
Two chapter titles have a bold T in front of the variable. Neither
the variable nor the chapter title is cross-referenced in the rest of
And in my TOC, the Chapter Titles all have the outline box in front of
them, and the second level headings all have the bold T in front of
them.
I thought the bold T meant cross-reference? I still don't know what
the outlined box means.
Thanks,
Deirdre
On 7/2/08, Deirdre Reagan wrote:
> Hi
Were these templates imported from MS Word, by any chance? That can be
the source of strange characters.
As for the upside down "T", that can be any one of several different
kinds of marker. If you have ever cross-referenced something to that
paragraph the marker will remain, even if the
Thanks, Clint.
The outline box is a little box that is appearing before the first
letter of the text. I tried to delete it and it moved to behind the
text.
Thank you for setting my mind at ease about these not affecting the
text. I'm being asked to make changes to these documents and I'm
All,
I'm running FM7.2 on WinXP doing unstructured docs with text insets, using
condition tags to control which insets show in this particular file, in a
single-sourced, multiple-author environment. All the graphics are imported by
reference, and all have callout applied within the anchored
Dear FM Gurus,
Any thoughts on the possibility of creating condition-specific paragraph tags
(eg para_red, para_blue) that would somehow magically set an associated
condition?
Ben
In Paragraph Designer > Default Font, set the color to Red and create a new tag.
That worked for me.
Deirdre
On 7/2/08, Ben Hechter wrote:
> Dear FM Gurus,
>
> Any thoughts on the possibility of creating condition-specific paragraph tags
> (eg para_red, para_blue) that would somehow magically
OK, bad example. How about para_chocolate, para_strawberry, para_neapolitan?
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 2:14 PM, Deirdre Reagan
wrote:
In Paragraph Designer > Default Font, set the color to Red and create a new tag.
That worked for me.
Deirdre
On 7/2/08, Ben Hechter wrote:
> Dear FM
Do you mean if chocolate, strawberry, or neapolitan were color
choices? I know you can create your own color then add it to the
color palette and it shows up in the Paragraph Designer.
Deirdre
On 7/2/08, Ben Hechter wrote:
>
> OK, bad example. How about para_chocolate, para_strawberry,
Dear all,
Does anyone know how to import files created with Ventura? I have loads of
manual files
here that come from various Ventura versions (pre and post Corel). I understand
Framemaker
only imports files from versions 3 and 4? Were these before Corel?
Until now, I was only able to import
Reply to:
Message: 20
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 15:34:38 -0600
From: "Linda G. Gallagher"
Subject: RE: Sort order of entries in an index
What do you mean by a complete index entry? It doesn't seem to have to
match
the complete second level portion of the index entry, so I'm
You can add this to the "wish list" for future releases, but FrameMaker
does currently support automatically assigning a condition based on
paragraph (character, table) tags, although it is fairly simple to
automate this via an FDK client or FrameScript.
So I'm a bit confused by Deirdre's
Hi Lester and all.
Ah yes, I misunderstood condition. He wants to apply a condition tag
to a paragraph tag, is that right?
I can change the color in a paragraph tag, and I can change the color
in a condition tag, but to apply a condition tag to a paragraph tag,
that I don't know how to do.
Hi Ben...
If you're trying to make it so when you tag a paragraph with a
particular style, it also applies a named condition to that paragraph,
you'd have to do that with an FDK plugin or FrameScript. It can be done,
but not out of the box.
...scott
Scott Prentice
Leximation, Inc.
Rene Stephenson wrote:
> Somehow, one of the container FM files got some setting changed that
made
> all the text frames in that one file have sideheads. Now, our
templates for
> the container file do have sideheads on the master pages for the body
text
> frames, but if that were the source of
Hi Lutz:
Weird, this message just appeared in my mail box, but it says it was
sent three days ago.
I search the Framer's list by googling "search term site:lists.framusers.com"
For instance, if I google "deirdre site:lists.frameusers.com I get an
embarrasingly large number of hits.
HTH
Plueckhahn, Lutz wrote:
> It's been a long time since I've lurked into the Framers' list. Hence,
I
> have no idea
> how to search inside the list archives. Can anyone help?
In a Google search box, type " site:frameusers.com" (sans
quotes).
Richard
Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Plueckhahn, Lutz wrote:
> Does anyone know how to import files created with Ventura? I have
loads of
> manual files
> here that come from various Ventura versions (pre and post Corel). I
> understand Framemaker
> only imports files from versions 3 and 4? Were these before Corel?
Waaay before
Clint:
Nope, no tab or space in the autonumber box.
The boxes don't effect the printed output at all. As far as I've been
able to determine, they are markers that point to the file I used to
create these files.
The first file, the one with the T, I renamed to a new name. The T
marker points to
Ben Hechter wrote:
> Any thoughts on the possibility of creating condition-specific
paragraph
> tags (eg para_red, para_blue) that would somehow magically set an
> associated condition?
Others have pointed out that such "magic" requires a script or plug-in.
But unless you need to do this _a
Hi, Dierdre:
The "T" characters before your chapter headings are markers that are
created if you check "Create Hypertext Links" in the Table of Contents
dialog box. These markers enable the ability to jump from a TOC entry
to its source by clicking it in a PDF. In FM, you can use the
combination
Have you tried to copy an example of the condition to the clipboard
with Edit > Copy Special, then Find a paragraph format and Replace by
Pasting, with Replace All enabled?
HTH
Regards,
Peter
__
Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices
If Richard's solution doesn't fix, try verifying your Master Page frames
have Sideheads off as well (all of 'em)
If that doesn't fix it, you might want to investigate your Text Inset files,
though I doubt it's that deep.
-Matt Sullivan
GRAFIX Training, Inc.
An Adobe Authorized Training
Thanks for responding, Richard!
Sorry about the rather circular description. It's definitely one of those 1
picture vs. 1000 words scenarios. You'd get it at a glance if you could see
what I see.
I thought about that, but the Flow Tag A is set to .5" sideheads, and the
sideheads in these text
Thanks, Peter, an interesting idea to check out.
My main motivation is to make conditions more "visible", to avoid later
confusion/errors due to conditions being a "hidden" attribute.
Ben
OK, Steve solved it. The key was the length of the numeric strings that I
wanted it sort on. I had to have the same number of digits in the [ ] for
sorting, and I'd been inconsistent; some where three digits and some were
four. My bad!
So, my sort needed to be one of these:
[0070 mm]
[0090 mm]
Hi, Ben:
>From your comment below, I'm not sure if you're aware of condition
indicators. You can create them with text attributes like overline,
underline, and strikethrough, plus a color - either one of the default
FM colors, or a custom color you create. You can opt to show or hide
these
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