Great Leap

2008-12-04 Thread Jeff Schweiner
Murray, We upgraded in April 08 and use unstructured FM only. Had a few initial problems with FM8 crashing (once a day). New patches seems to have taken care of that, I don't even remember my last crash. Just make sure you get all the patches. The FM8 User Guide tells you to round trip to mif

FILENAME markers for mid-topic IDs

2008-12-04 Thread Olga Klenner
Hello, Tools: FM 7.0, WWP 2003 We use filename markers in FM to generate context-sensitive help with WWP. How can I create a filename marker for a mid-topic ID? e.g. Help page is About.html = FILENAME marker input is About. This is easy. But: Help page is Options.html#General = what do I

Structured and Standard FM 7.2

2008-12-04 Thread Les Winberg
Hello Framers I recently started a new job, 2 days ago, and I noticed that a document I was given is Standard FM but has Structured FM selected in the Preferences. My boss told me it was OK but I think it could cause a problem. I am too new to push it. We are working on a small book.

Re: Structured and Standard FM 7.2

2008-12-04 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Les, This is no problem whatsoever. If you don't like it, simply change it in the Preferences, restart FrameMaker and away you go. You can always change it back. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com Hello Framers I recently started a new job, 2 days ago,

Re: Structured and Standard FM 7.2

2008-12-04 Thread David Spreadbury
Les, You shouldn't encounter any problems working in an Unstructured (Standard) FM document while FrameMaker is set for Structured.   Obviously, you won't be able to use any of the Structured features while editing an Unstructured document, i.e., Structured View, Element Catalog won't display

IXGen with Structured FrameMaker

2008-12-04 Thread Indira Rimkeit
Hi Jennifer, We also used IXGen for editing indexes before we moved to structure, but found that is doesn't work with structured markers. You could ask the developer, Frank Stearns http://www.fsatools.com/, if he now has plans to support them, but as far as I know, he doesn't. Rick Quatro

RE: Structured and Standard FM 7.2

2008-12-04 Thread Fred Ridder
Les Winberg wrote: I recently started a new job, 2 days ago, and I noticed that a document I was given is Standard FM but has Structured FM selected in the Preferences. My boss told me it was OK but I think it could cause a problem. Note that the Preferences apply on a per-user basis rather

Mif2Go FM template import: flags issue

2008-12-04 Thread Jim Owens
I'm importing a template in a Mif2Go project, with the flags set to 128 to import cross-reference formats only. For the first two chapters of the book, this works fine. FM variable values are not imported from the template, as expected. For the rest of the book, variable values are imported

Re: Structured and Standard FM 7.2

2008-12-04 Thread Klaus Mueller
Les, David, Rick, You shouldn't encounter any problems working in an Unstructured (Standard) FM document while FrameMaker is set for Structured. This is no problem whatsoever. Actually, I regularly encounter an annoying problem when working with unstructured documents while FrameMaker is

Re: IXGen with Structured FrameMaker

2008-12-04 Thread Scott Prentice
Hi... Our plugin MarkerTools, supports structured markers. It is in no way a replacement for IXGen, but it does provide a number of similar features, as well as many other useful features. http://leximation.com/tools/info/markertools.php Cheers, ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc.

Re: Structured and Standard FM 7.2

2008-12-04 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Klaus, Thanks for the information. I wasn't aware of these problems. Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com Les, David, Rick, You shouldn't encounter any problems working in an Unstructured (Standard) FM document while FrameMaker is set for Structured.

Re: Layoffs and Frame 9?

2008-12-04 Thread Alan Houser
This morning I spoke with Adobe's Group Product Manager for the Technical Communication Suite, FrameMaker, and Robohelp. With his permission, I can say that the development teams for these products were not affected by yesterday's Adobe announcement. Adobe's historical release cycle of

Re: Merged project

2008-12-04 Thread Art Campbell
This probably isn't the kind of advice that you're hoping to get, but the way that you're setting stuff up is so far from the standard way that FM and RH work that you're way off the edge. As you probably know, the normal way to work, and the way the programs work best, is to build a book in FM

Re: Structured and Standard FM 7.2

2008-12-04 Thread David Spreadbury
Klaus,   Like Rick, I was not aware of these issues. Very good information. Thanks for the heads-up on these issues. --- On Thu, 12/4/08, Rick Quatro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Rick Quatro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Structured and Standard FM 7.2 To: Klaus Mueller [EMAIL PROTECTED],

PDF Bookmarks from Frame Source

2008-12-04 Thread Duncan, Gary
Hi everyone, We create PDFs from Frame sources and include PDF bookmarks for chapter titles and headings. We also include a book mark for the TOC. The problem I am seeing (and have seen before but can't remember how I fixed it) is that the Contents book mark is expandable. It includes all of

RE: FILENAME markers for mid-topic IDs

2008-12-04 Thread Combs, Richard
Olga Klenner wrote: We use filename markers in FM to generate context-sensitive help with WWP. How can I create a filename marker for a mid-topic ID? e.g. Help page is About.html = FILENAME marker input is About. This is easy. But: Help page is Options.html#General = what do I have to

Re: Structured and Standard FM 7.2

2008-12-04 Thread Klaus Mueller
Hello Framers, Maybe someone of the FM9 beta participants could check this issue with the current version? (FM8 Structured does also write those structured book component information into unstructured MIF documents.) Thanks, Klaus --- Original Message --- From: Rick Quatro Date: 04.12.2008

Re: PDF Bookmarks from Frame Source

2008-12-04 Thread Art Campbell
What version FM and Acrobat are you using? And... where did the list of included headings come from? Did you copy it from the Book's PDF Setup Window, or somewhere else? Art Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52

Re: PDF Bookmarks from Frame Source

2008-12-04 Thread quills
Don't include the *TOC tags in your generation of PDFs. You can choose which ones during your setup for PDF markers to include or exclude. Scott At 1:54 PM -0500 12/4/08, Duncan, Gary wrote: Hi everyone, We create PDFs from Frame sources and include PDF bookmarks for chapter titles and

RE: PDF Bookmarks from Frame Source

2008-12-04 Thread Duncan, Gary
Hi Art, I am using Frame version 7.1p116, and Acrobat version 7.0.5. I selected the bookmarks in PDF Setup from the Frame Print Document dialog. I have triple-checked that I did not include the tags appended with TOC that are created in the Frame TOC. Gary -Original Message- From: Art

Re: Structured and Standard FM 7.2

2008-12-04 Thread Art Campbell
Well, I'd venture the minority opinion that I'd rather have the warning messages display, even if they're a false warning... If I'm opening a new document, I'd much rather know that I may be blowing away structured info (the warning appears when you're opening a correctly structured doc too, as

Re: PDF Bookmarks from Frame Source

2008-12-04 Thread Art Campbell
Gary, Was the PDF Setup Bookmark window you used from the Print Book File, or from the TOC's? The Book File should rule, but it may be worth checking both of them, to ensure that the correct settings aren't being corrupted somehow. If the settings match, one quick thing you could try... create

RE: PDF Bookmarks from Frame Source

2008-12-04 Thread Fred Ridder
Gary Duncan wrote: I selected the bookmarks in PDF Setup from the Frame Print Document dialog. I have triple-checked that I did not include the tags appended with TOC that are created in the Frame TOC. An undocumented feature is that the PDF Setup paragraph lists are additive. The

Re: Structured and Standard FM 7.2

2008-12-04 Thread Klaus Mueller
Hello Art, I totally agree: When opening structured documents with unstructured FrameMaker, a warning message should appear. The only problem is that Structured FrameMaker does unnecessarily and counterproductively write structure information in unstructured documents when creating MIF files

Cross reference links - Loss of color formatting

2008-12-04 Thread Venkat
Hello, I was wonder if this problem can be solved. I have a large amount of cross-references in my documents. I am using 2 formatting instructions 1. BlueItalic$paratextDefault ¶ Font 2. BlueItalicAppendix $paranum[Chapter Num], Italic$paratextDefault ¶ Font This cross-ref formats are used

Re: Cross reference links - Loss of color formatting

2008-12-04 Thread Shlomo Perets
Venkatesh, You wrote: I have a large amount of cross-references in my documents. I am using 2 formatting instructions 1. BlueItalic$paratextDefault ¶ Font 2. BlueItalicAppendix $paranum[Chapter Num], Italic$paratextDefault ¶ Font This cross-ref formats are used predominantly through the

Layoffs and Frame 9?

2008-12-04 Thread Alan Litchfield
As I gaze deep into my crystal ball I see that Adobe's plans to release Frame 9 on the current planned date will not be met and the extension of time is required to ensure quality is maintained. I see that some fixes to bugs found in current and previous versions will be applied and called

RGB Color Definitions

2008-12-04 Thread Jacob Schäffer
See http://www.grafikhuset.net/publipdf/whitepaper_difficult_pdf_documents.html for an explanation. Best regards / Med venlig hilsen Jacob Sch?ffer | Chief Developer Paradis All? 22, Raml?se DK-3200 Helsinge, Denmark Phone: +45 4439 4400 Email: js at grafikhuset.dk Web: www.grafikhuset.net

Structured and Standard FM 7.2

2008-12-04 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Les, This is no problem whatsoever. If you don't like it, simply change it in the Preferences, restart FrameMaker and away you go. You can always change it back. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com > Hello Framers > > > > I recently started a new job, 2 days

Structured and Standard FM 7.2

2008-12-04 Thread David Spreadbury
Les, You shouldn't encounter any problems working in an Unstructured (Standard) FM document while FrameMaker is set for Structured. ? Obviously, you won't be able to use any of the Structured features while editing an Unstructured document, i.e., Structured View, Element Catalog won't display

IXGen with Structured FrameMaker

2008-12-04 Thread Indira Rimkeit
Hi Jennifer, We also used IXGen for editing indexes before we moved to structure, but found that is doesn't work with structured markers. You could ask the developer, Frank Stearns http://www.fsatools.com/, if he now has plans to support them, but as far as I know, he doesn't. Rick Quatro

Structured and Standard FM 7.2

2008-12-04 Thread Fred Ridder
Les Winberg wrote:> I recently started a new job, 2 days ago, and I noticed that a document I > was given is Standard FM but has Structured FM selected in the Preferences. > My boss told me it was OK but I think it could cause a problem. Note that the Preferences apply on a per-user basis

Mif2Go FM template import: flags issue

2008-12-04 Thread Jim Owens
I'm importing a template in a Mif2Go project, with the flags set to 128 to import cross-reference formats only. For the first two chapters of the book, this works fine. FM variable values are not imported from the template, as expected. For the rest of the book, variable values are imported

IXGen with Structured FrameMaker

2008-12-04 Thread Etzel, Gary
Can you explain what you mean by "structured" markers? I thought markers were the same regardless of whether or not you are using structure. > We also used IXGen for editing indexes before we moved to structure, but found that is doesn't work with structured markers. This e-mail, and any

Structured and Standard FM 7.2

2008-12-04 Thread Klaus Mueller
Les, David, Rick, > You shouldn't encounter any problems working in an > Unstructured (Standard) FM document while FrameMaker > is set for Structured. > This is no problem whatsoever. Actually, I regularly encounter an annoying problem when working with unstructured documents while FrameMaker

IXGen with Structured FrameMaker

2008-12-04 Thread Scott Prentice
Hi... Our plugin MarkerTools, supports structured markers. It is in no way a replacement for IXGen, but it does provide a number of similar features, as well as many other useful features. http://leximation.com/tools/info/markertools.php Cheers, ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc.

Structured and Standard FM 7.2

2008-12-04 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Klaus, Thanks for the information. I wasn't aware of these problems. Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com Les, David, Rick, > You shouldn't encounter any problems working in an > Unstructured (Standard) FM document while FrameMaker > is set for

Layoffs and Frame 9?

2008-12-04 Thread Alan Houser
This morning I spoke with Adobe's Group Product Manager for the Technical Communication Suite, FrameMaker, and Robohelp. With his permission, I can say that the development teams for these products were not affected by yesterday's Adobe announcement. Adobe's historical release cycle of

Merged project

2008-12-04 Thread Art Campbell
This probably isn't the kind of advice that you're hoping to get, but the way that you're setting stuff up is so far from the standard way that FM and RH work that you're way off the edge. As you probably know, the normal way to work, and the way the programs work best, is to build a book in FM

Structured and Standard FM 7.2

2008-12-04 Thread David Spreadbury
Klaus, ? Like Rick, I was not aware of these issues. Very good information. Thanks for the heads-up on these issues. --- On Thu, 12/4/08, Rick Quatro wrote: From: Rick Quatro Subject: Re: Structured and Standard FM 7.2 To: "Klaus Mueller" , "Framers List" Date:

PDF Bookmarks from Frame Source

2008-12-04 Thread Duncan, Gary
Hi everyone, We create PDFs from Frame sources and include PDF bookmarks for chapter titles and headings. We also include a book mark for the TOC. The problem I am seeing (and have seen before but can't remember how I fixed it) is that the "Contents" book mark is expandable. It includes all of

FILENAME markers for mid-topic IDs

2008-12-04 Thread Combs, Richard
Olga Klenner wrote: > We use filename markers in FM to generate context-sensitive help with > WWP. > How can I create a filename marker for a mid-topic ID? > > e.g. > Help page is "About.html" => FILENAME marker input is "About". This is > easy. > But: Help page is "Options.html#General" =>

Structured and Standard FM 7.2

2008-12-04 Thread Klaus Mueller
Hello Framers, Maybe someone of the FM9 beta participants could check this issue with the current version? (FM8 Structured does also write those structured book component information into unstructured MIF documents.) Thanks, Klaus --- Original Message --- From: Rick Quatro Date: 04.12.2008

PDF Bookmarks from Frame Source

2008-12-04 Thread Art Campbell
What version FM and Acrobat are you using? And... where did the list of included headings come from? Did you copy it from the Book's PDF Setup Window, or somewhere else? Art Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world

PDF Bookmarks from Frame Source

2008-12-04 Thread qui...@airmail.net
Don't include the *TOC tags in your generation of PDFs. You can choose which ones during your setup for PDF markers to include or exclude. Scott At 1:54 PM -0500 12/4/08, Duncan, Gary wrote: >Hi everyone, > > > >We create PDFs from Frame sources and include PDF bookmarks for chapter >titles

PDF Bookmarks from Frame Source

2008-12-04 Thread Duncan, Gary
Hi Art, I am using Frame version 7.1p116, and Acrobat version 7.0.5. I selected the bookmarks in "PDF Setup" from the Frame Print Document dialog. I have triple-checked that I did not include the tags appended with "TOC" that are created in the Frame TOC. Gary -Original Message- From:

Structured and Standard FM 7.2

2008-12-04 Thread Art Campbell
Well, I'd venture the minority opinion that I'd rather have the warning messages display, even if they're a false warning... If I'm opening a new document, I'd much rather know that I may be blowing away structured info (the warning appears when you're opening a correctly structured doc too, as

PDF Bookmarks from Frame Source

2008-12-04 Thread Art Campbell
Gary, Was the PDF Setup Bookmark window you used from the Print > Book File, or from the TOC's? The Book File should rule, but it may be worth checking both of them, to ensure that the correct settings aren't being corrupted somehow. If the settings match, one quick thing you could try... create

PDF Bookmarks from Frame Source

2008-12-04 Thread Fred Ridder
Gary Duncan wrote: > I selected the bookmarks in "PDF Setup" from the Frame Print Document > dialog. I have triple-checked that I did not include the tags appended > with "TOC" that are created in the Frame TOC. An undocumented feature is that the PDF Setup paragraph lists are additive. The

Structured and Standard FM 7.2

2008-12-04 Thread Klaus Mueller
Hello Art, I totally agree: When opening structured documents with unstructured FrameMaker, a warning message should appear. The only problem is that Structured FrameMaker does unnecessarily and counterproductively write structure information in unstructured documents when creating MIF files