Murray,
We upgraded in April 08 and use unstructured FM only. Had a few initial
problems with FM8 crashing (once a day). New patches seems to have
taken care of that, I don't even remember my last crash. Just make sure
you get all the patches.
The FM8 User Guide tells you to round trip to mif
Hello,
Tools: FM 7.0, WWP 2003
We use filename markers in FM to generate context-sensitive help with
WWP.
How can I create a filename marker for a mid-topic ID?
e.g.
Help page is About.html = FILENAME marker input is About. This is
easy.
But: Help page is Options.html#General = what do I
Hello Framers
I recently started a new job, 2 days ago, and I noticed that a document I
was given is Standard FM but has Structured FM selected in the Preferences.
My boss told me it was OK but I think it could cause a problem.
I am too new to push it. We are working on a small book.
Hi Les,
This is no problem whatsoever. If you don't like it, simply change it in the
Preferences, restart FrameMaker and away you go. You can always change it
back.
Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com
Hello Framers
I recently started a new job, 2 days ago,
Les,
You shouldn't encounter any problems working in an Unstructured (Standard) FM
document while FrameMaker is set for Structured.
Obviously, you won't be able to use any of the Structured features while
editing an Unstructured document, i.e., Structured View, Element Catalog won't
display
Hi Jennifer,
We also used IXGen for editing indexes before we moved to structure, but found
that is doesn't work with structured markers. You could ask the developer,
Frank Stearns http://www.fsatools.com/, if he now has plans to support them,
but as far as I know, he doesn't.
Rick Quatro
Les Winberg wrote: I recently started a new job, 2 days ago, and I noticed
that a document I
was given is Standard FM but has Structured FM selected in the Preferences.
My boss told me it was OK but I think it could cause a problem.
Note that the Preferences apply on a per-user basis rather
I'm importing a template in a Mif2Go project, with the flags set to 128
to import cross-reference formats only.
For the first two chapters of the book, this works fine. FM variable
values are not imported from the template, as expected. For the rest of
the book, variable values are imported
Les, David, Rick,
You shouldn't encounter any problems working in an
Unstructured (Standard) FM document while FrameMaker
is set for Structured.
This is no problem whatsoever.
Actually, I regularly encounter an annoying problem when
working with unstructured documents while FrameMaker is
Hi...
Our plugin MarkerTools, supports structured markers. It is in no way a
replacement for IXGen, but it does provide a number of similar features,
as well as many other useful features.
http://leximation.com/tools/info/markertools.php
Cheers,
...scott
Scott Prentice
Leximation, Inc.
Hi Klaus,
Thanks for the information. I wasn't aware of these problems.
Rick
Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com
Les, David, Rick,
You shouldn't encounter any problems working in an
Unstructured (Standard) FM document while FrameMaker
is set for Structured.
This morning I spoke with Adobe's Group Product Manager for the
Technical Communication Suite, FrameMaker, and Robohelp. With his
permission, I can say that the development teams for these products were
not affected by yesterday's Adobe announcement.
Adobe's historical release cycle of
This probably isn't the kind of advice that you're hoping to get, but
the way that you're setting stuff up is so far from the standard way
that FM and RH work that you're way off the edge.
As you probably know, the normal way to work, and the way the programs
work best, is to build a book in FM
Klaus,
Like Rick, I was not aware of these issues. Very good information. Thanks for
the heads-up on these issues.
--- On Thu, 12/4/08, Rick Quatro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Rick Quatro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Structured and Standard FM 7.2
To: Klaus Mueller [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Hi everyone,
We create PDFs from Frame sources and include PDF bookmarks for chapter
titles and headings. We also include a book mark for the TOC. The
problem I am seeing (and have seen before but can't remember how I fixed
it) is that the Contents book mark is expandable. It includes all of
Olga Klenner wrote:
We use filename markers in FM to generate context-sensitive help with
WWP.
How can I create a filename marker for a mid-topic ID?
e.g.
Help page is About.html = FILENAME marker input is About. This
is
easy.
But: Help page is Options.html#General = what do I have to
Hello Framers,
Maybe someone of the FM9 beta participants could check
this issue with the current version?
(FM8 Structured does also write those structured book
component information into unstructured MIF documents.)
Thanks,
Klaus
--- Original Message ---
From: Rick Quatro
Date: 04.12.2008
What version FM and Acrobat are you using?
And... where did the list of included headings come from? Did you copy
it from the Book's PDF Setup Window, or somewhere else?
Art
Art Campbell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
Don't include the *TOC tags in your generation of PDFs. You can
choose which ones during your setup for PDF markers to include or
exclude.
Scott
At 1:54 PM -0500 12/4/08, Duncan, Gary wrote:
Hi everyone,
We create PDFs from Frame sources and include PDF bookmarks for chapter
titles and
Hi Art,
I am using Frame version 7.1p116, and Acrobat version 7.0.5.
I selected the bookmarks in PDF Setup from the Frame Print Document
dialog. I have triple-checked that I did not include the tags appended
with TOC that are created in the Frame TOC.
Gary
-Original Message-
From: Art
Well,
I'd venture the minority opinion that I'd rather have the warning
messages display, even if they're a false warning... If I'm opening a
new document, I'd much rather know that I may be blowing away
structured info (the warning appears when you're opening a correctly
structured doc too, as
Gary,
Was the PDF Setup Bookmark window you used from the Print Book File,
or from the TOC's? The Book File should rule, but it may be worth
checking both of them, to ensure that the correct settings aren't
being corrupted somehow.
If the settings match, one quick thing you could try... create
Gary Duncan wrote:
I selected the bookmarks in PDF Setup from the Frame Print Document
dialog. I have triple-checked that I did not include the tags appended
with TOC that are created in the Frame TOC.
An undocumented feature is that the PDF Setup paragraph lists are additive.
The
Hello Art,
I totally agree: When opening structured documents with
unstructured FrameMaker, a warning message should appear.
The only problem is that Structured FrameMaker does
unnecessarily and counterproductively write structure
information in unstructured documents when creating
MIF files
Hello,
I was wonder if this problem can be solved.
I have a large amount of cross-references in my documents. I am using 2
formatting instructions
1. BlueItalic$paratextDefault ¶ Font
2. BlueItalicAppendix $paranum[Chapter Num],
Italic$paratextDefault ¶ Font
This cross-ref formats are used
Venkatesh,
You wrote:
I have a large amount of cross-references in my documents. I am using 2
formatting instructions
1. BlueItalic$paratextDefault ¶ Font
2. BlueItalicAppendix $paranum[Chapter Num],
Italic$paratextDefault ¶ Font
This cross-ref formats are used predominantly through the
As I gaze deep into my crystal ball I see that Adobe's plans to release Frame
9 on the current planned date will not be met and the extension of time is
required to ensure quality is maintained. I see that some fixes to bugs found
in current and previous versions will be applied and called
See http://www.grafikhuset.net/publipdf/whitepaper_difficult_pdf_documents.html
for an explanation.
Best regards / Med venlig hilsen
Jacob Sch?ffer | Chief Developer
Paradis All? 22, Raml?se
DK-3200 Helsinge, Denmark
Phone: +45 4439 4400
Email: js at grafikhuset.dk
Web: www.grafikhuset.net
Hi Les,
This is no problem whatsoever. If you don't like it, simply change it in the
Preferences, restart FrameMaker and away you go. You can always change it
back.
Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com
> Hello Framers
>
>
>
> I recently started a new job, 2 days
Les,
You shouldn't encounter any problems working in an Unstructured (Standard) FM
document while FrameMaker is set for Structured.
?
Obviously, you won't be able to use any of the Structured features while
editing an Unstructured document, i.e., Structured View, Element Catalog won't
display
Hi Jennifer,
We also used IXGen for editing indexes before we moved to structure, but found
that is doesn't work with structured markers. You could ask the developer,
Frank Stearns http://www.fsatools.com/, if he now has plans to support them,
but as far as I know, he doesn't.
Rick Quatro
Les Winberg wrote:> I recently started a new job, 2 days ago, and I noticed
that a document I
> was given is Standard FM but has Structured FM selected in the Preferences.
> My boss told me it was OK but I think it could cause a problem.
Note that the Preferences apply on a per-user basis
I'm importing a template in a Mif2Go project, with the flags set to 128
to import cross-reference formats only.
For the first two chapters of the book, this works fine. FM variable
values are not imported from the template, as expected. For the rest of
the book, variable values are imported
Can you explain what you mean by "structured" markers? I thought markers
were the same regardless of whether or not you are using structure.
> We also used IXGen for editing indexes before we moved to structure,
but found that is doesn't work with structured markers.
This e-mail, and any
Les, David, Rick,
> You shouldn't encounter any problems working in an
> Unstructured (Standard) FM document while FrameMaker
> is set for Structured.
> This is no problem whatsoever.
Actually, I regularly encounter an annoying problem when
working with unstructured documents while FrameMaker
Hi...
Our plugin MarkerTools, supports structured markers. It is in no way a
replacement for IXGen, but it does provide a number of similar features,
as well as many other useful features.
http://leximation.com/tools/info/markertools.php
Cheers,
...scott
Scott Prentice
Leximation, Inc.
Hi Klaus,
Thanks for the information. I wasn't aware of these problems.
Rick
Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com
Les, David, Rick,
> You shouldn't encounter any problems working in an
> Unstructured (Standard) FM document while FrameMaker
> is set for
This morning I spoke with Adobe's Group Product Manager for the
Technical Communication Suite, FrameMaker, and Robohelp. With his
permission, I can say that the development teams for these products were
not affected by yesterday's Adobe announcement.
Adobe's historical release cycle of
This probably isn't the kind of advice that you're hoping to get, but
the way that you're setting stuff up is so far from the standard way
that FM and RH work that you're way off the edge.
As you probably know, the normal way to work, and the way the programs
work best, is to build a book in FM
Klaus,
?
Like Rick, I was not aware of these issues. Very good information. Thanks for
the heads-up on these issues.
--- On Thu, 12/4/08, Rick Quatro wrote:
From: Rick Quatro
Subject: Re: Structured and Standard FM 7.2
To: "Klaus Mueller" , "Framers List"
Date:
Hi everyone,
We create PDFs from Frame sources and include PDF bookmarks for chapter
titles and headings. We also include a book mark for the TOC. The
problem I am seeing (and have seen before but can't remember how I fixed
it) is that the "Contents" book mark is expandable. It includes all of
Olga Klenner wrote:
> We use filename markers in FM to generate context-sensitive help with
> WWP.
> How can I create a filename marker for a mid-topic ID?
>
> e.g.
> Help page is "About.html" => FILENAME marker input is "About". This
is
> easy.
> But: Help page is "Options.html#General" =>
Hello Framers,
Maybe someone of the FM9 beta participants could check
this issue with the current version?
(FM8 Structured does also write those structured book
component information into unstructured MIF documents.)
Thanks,
Klaus
--- Original Message ---
From: Rick Quatro
Date: 04.12.2008
What version FM and Acrobat are you using?
And... where did the list of included headings come from? Did you copy
it from the Book's PDF Setup Window, or somewhere else?
Art
Art Campbell
art.campbell at gmail.com
"... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world
Don't include the *TOC tags in your generation of PDFs. You can
choose which ones during your setup for PDF markers to include or
exclude.
Scott
At 1:54 PM -0500 12/4/08, Duncan, Gary wrote:
>Hi everyone,
>
>
>
>We create PDFs from Frame sources and include PDF bookmarks for chapter
>titles
Hi Art,
I am using Frame version 7.1p116, and Acrobat version 7.0.5.
I selected the bookmarks in "PDF Setup" from the Frame Print Document
dialog. I have triple-checked that I did not include the tags appended
with "TOC" that are created in the Frame TOC.
Gary
-Original Message-
From:
Well,
I'd venture the minority opinion that I'd rather have the warning
messages display, even if they're a false warning... If I'm opening a
new document, I'd much rather know that I may be blowing away
structured info (the warning appears when you're opening a correctly
structured doc too, as
Gary,
Was the PDF Setup Bookmark window you used from the Print > Book File,
or from the TOC's? The Book File should rule, but it may be worth
checking both of them, to ensure that the correct settings aren't
being corrupted somehow.
If the settings match, one quick thing you could try... create
Gary Duncan wrote:
> I selected the bookmarks in "PDF Setup" from the Frame Print Document
> dialog. I have triple-checked that I did not include the tags appended
> with "TOC" that are created in the Frame TOC.
An undocumented feature is that the PDF Setup paragraph lists are additive.
The
Hello Art,
I totally agree: When opening structured documents with
unstructured FrameMaker, a warning message should appear.
The only problem is that Structured FrameMaker does
unnecessarily and counterproductively write structure
information in unstructured documents when creating
MIF files
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