increment more than one $chapnum in a file?

2011-01-12 Thread Baruch Brodersen
Hi Leigh,
The $chapnum variable is a file level marker. You can only have one chapter
per file.

Baruch Brodersen

On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 9:51 PM, LW White  wrote:

>
> I'm converting some Word files to unstructured FM9. These files have a
> numbered section as the top level. At the second level, they have one or
> more numbered chapters. When a file contains more than one numbered chapter,
> I can't get Frame to recognize that chapter as part of the $chapnum
> auto-increment. So instead of:
>
> Section I
>   Chapter 1
>   Chapter 2
>
> Section II
>   Chapter 3
>
> Section III
>   Chapter 4
>
> I get:
>
> Section I
>   Chapter 1
>   Chapter 1
>
> Section II
>   Chapter 2
>
> Section III
>   Chapter 3
>
> If I don't use $chapnum, and just use one of the regular counters instead
> () then the number doesn't increment across files. I seem to be stuck
> between a rock and a hard place here. Is there any way to make $chapnum
> increment more than once per file? Or some other solution?
>
> Thanks,
> Leigh
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increment more than one $chapnum in a file?

2011-01-12 Thread LW White

I'm converting some Word files to unstructured FM9. These files have a numbered 
section as the top level. At the second level, they have one or more numbered 
chapters. When a file contains more than one numbered chapter, I can't get 
Frame to recognize that chapter as part of the $chapnum auto-increment. So 
instead of:

Section I
   Chapter 1
   Chapter 2

Section II
   Chapter 3

Section III
   Chapter 4

I get:

Section I
   Chapter 1
   Chapter 1

Section II
   Chapter 2

Section III
   Chapter 3

If I don't use $chapnum, and just use one of the regular counters instead 
() then the number doesn't increment across files. I seem to be stuck 
between a rock and a hard place here. Is there any way to make $chapnum 
increment more than once per file? Or some other solution?

Thanks,
Leigh 


RE: increment more than one $chapnum in a file?

2011-01-12 Thread Combs, Richard
LW White wrote:
 
> I'm converting some Word files to unstructured FM9. These files have a
> numbered section as the top level. At the second level, they have one or
> more numbered chapters. When a file contains more than one numbered
> chapter, I can't get Frame to recognize that chapter as part of the
> $chapnum auto-increment. 
> 
> If I don't use $chapnum, and just use one of the regular counters instead
> () then the number doesn't increment across files. I seem to be stuck
> between a rock and a hard place here. Is there any way to make $chapnum
> increment more than once per file? Or some other solution?

Baruch is correct -- you can't increment $chapnum within a file. But there's 
more to be said. And more than one solution to your problem.

You could forgo $chapnum and use a regular counter () in the autonumber of 
the chapter title paragraph as you thought. Incrementing that autonumber 
sequence across files is a piece of cake -- as long as you don't also have 
autonumber sequences that need to restart in each file. 

1) In the book window, select all the files after the one containing Chapter 1. 
2) Select Format > Document > Numbering. 
3) In the Numbering Properties dialog, click the Paragraph tab. 
4) Select Continue Numbering from Previous Paragraph in Book, and click Set. 

You're done. 

Unless you also have autonumber sequences (say, figures and tables) that need 
to restart in each file or chapter. In that case, you'd have to use special 
paragraphs that restart numbering for those autonumber sequences. Or use your 
chapter title paragraph to reset them. Maybe even construct the kind of complex 
multiple-counter autonumber sequences used prior to FM 6. 

The ins, outs, options, and alternatives are a bit much to go into here. A lot 
of this is fairly well explained in the FM manual/help. Here's one good source 
of more autonumber information: 

http://www.infocon.com/files/autonum.pdf  

Other sources can be found by googling "framemaker autonumbering" (sans 
quotes). 

Another solution -- and it may be preferable, in the long run -- is to put each 
chapter into its own file and use the $chapnum variable for the chapter title 
autonumber. Use the $volnum variable for the section title autonumber. In the 
Numbering Properties dialog, Chapter tab, set all the chapters after the first 
to Continue Numbering from Previous File in Book. (For the 1st chapter file, of 
course, set Chapter # explicitly to 1 and Format to Numeric.)

For the files that _don't start a new section, in the Numbering Properties 
dialog, Volume tab, set the $volnum variable to Use Same Number As Previous 
File. For the ones after Section 1, set it to Continue Numbering from Previous 
File in Book. (For the 1st, set it explicitly like the chapter number, using 
ROMAN as the format.) 

HTH!

Richard G. Combs
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increment more than one $chapnum in a file?

2011-01-12 Thread Combs, Richard
LW White wrote:

> I'm converting some Word files to unstructured FM9. These files have a
> numbered section as the top level. At the second level, they have one or
> more numbered chapters. When a file contains more than one numbered
> chapter, I can't get Frame to recognize that chapter as part of the
> $chapnum auto-increment. 
> 
> If I don't use $chapnum, and just use one of the regular counters instead
> () then the number doesn't increment across files. I seem to be stuck
> between a rock and a hard place here. Is there any way to make $chapnum
> increment more than once per file? Or some other solution?

Baruch is correct -- you can't increment $chapnum within a file. But there's 
more to be said. And more than one solution to your problem.

You could forgo $chapnum and use a regular counter () in the autonumber of 
the chapter title paragraph as you thought. Incrementing that autonumber 
sequence across files is a piece of cake -- as long as you don't also have 
autonumber sequences that need to restart in each file. 

1) In the book window, select all the files after the one containing Chapter 1. 
2) Select Format > Document > Numbering. 
3) In the Numbering Properties dialog, click the Paragraph tab. 
4) Select Continue Numbering from Previous Paragraph in Book, and click Set. 

You're done. 

Unless you also have autonumber sequences (say, figures and tables) that need 
to restart in each file or chapter. In that case, you'd have to use special 
paragraphs that restart numbering for those autonumber sequences. Or use your 
chapter title paragraph to reset them. Maybe even construct the kind of complex 
multiple-counter autonumber sequences used prior to FM 6. 

The ins, outs, options, and alternatives are a bit much to go into here. A lot 
of this is fairly well explained in the FM manual/help. Here's one good source 
of more autonumber information: 

http://www.infocon.com/files/autonum.pdf  

Other sources can be found by googling "framemaker autonumbering" (sans 
quotes). 

Another solution -- and it may be preferable, in the long run -- is to put each 
chapter into its own file and use the $chapnum variable for the chapter title 
autonumber. Use the $volnum variable for the section title autonumber. In the 
Numbering Properties dialog, Chapter tab, set all the chapters after the first 
to Continue Numbering from Previous File in Book. (For the 1st chapter file, of 
course, set Chapter # explicitly to 1 and Format to Numeric.)

For the files that _don't start a new section, in the Numbering Properties 
dialog, Volume tab, set the $volnum variable to Use Same Number As Previous 
File. For the ones after Section 1, set it to Continue Numbering from Previous 
File in Book. (For the 1st, set it explicitly like the chapter number, using 
ROMAN as the format.) 

HTH!

Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
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Re: increment more than one $chapnum in a file?

2011-01-12 Thread Baruch Brodersen
Hi Leigh,
The $chapnum variable is a file level marker. You can only have one chapter
per file.

Baruch Brodersen

On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 9:51 PM, LW White  wrote:

>
> I'm converting some Word files to unstructured FM9. These files have a
> numbered section as the top level. At the second level, they have one or
> more numbered chapters. When a file contains more than one numbered chapter,
> I can't get Frame to recognize that chapter as part of the $chapnum
> auto-increment. So instead of:
>
> Section I
>   Chapter 1
>   Chapter 2
>
> Section II
>   Chapter 3
>
> Section III
>   Chapter 4
>
> I get:
>
> Section I
>   Chapter 1
>   Chapter 1
>
> Section II
>   Chapter 2
>
> Section III
>   Chapter 3
>
> If I don't use $chapnum, and just use one of the regular counters instead
> () then the number doesn't increment across files. I seem to be stuck
> between a rock and a hard place here. Is there any way to make $chapnum
> increment more than once per file? Or some other solution?
>
> Thanks,
> Leigh
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increment more than one $chapnum in a file?

2011-01-12 Thread LW White

I'm converting some Word files to unstructured FM9. These files have a numbered 
section as the top level. At the second level, they have one or more numbered 
chapters. When a file contains more than one numbered chapter, I can't get 
Frame to recognize that chapter as part of the $chapnum auto-increment. So 
instead of:

Section I
   Chapter 1
   Chapter 2

Section II
   Chapter 3

Section III
   Chapter 4

I get:

Section I
   Chapter 1
   Chapter 1

Section II
   Chapter 2

Section III
   Chapter 3

If I don't use $chapnum, and just use one of the regular counters instead 
() then the number doesn't increment across files. I seem to be stuck 
between a rock and a hard place here. Is there any way to make $chapnum 
increment more than once per file? Or some other solution?

Thanks,
Leigh 
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Compiling FM into help files (wfp file)

2011-01-12 Thread Anton David

 Hello all,

A client is requesting to recompile FM7 files after translation.
The template file available in the staging directory has .wfp extension.
Opening it in a text editor, I can see "quadralay-wdt-80"
The output files requested are .chm and compiled online help.

Is anybody able to tell me which tool has been used and which version?

Thank you

Anton David
Localisation Project Manager
Xlated ltd




Re: Compiling FM into help files (wfp file)

2011-01-12 Thread Steve Johnson
I believe that's the WebWorks project file and it predates 9.x so it
might be WebWorks Publisher 2003 or something like that, which
Quadralay no longer supports.

If it's the project file, it won't help you anyway. It's in binary
format and all it does is define the output format. It doesn't have
any of the source in it.

http://www.webworks.com/Support/ePublisher/Legacy_Docs/Online_Manuals/ePublisher_Pro/03_ManagingProjects.5.2.shtml

On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Anton David  wrote:
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>  Hello all,
>
> A client is requesting to recompile FM7 files after translation.
> The template file available in the staging directory has .wfp extension.
> Opening it in a text editor, I can see "quadralay-wdt-80"
> The output files requested are .chm and compiled online help.
>
> Is anybody able to tell me which tool has been used and which version?
>
> Thank you
>
> Anton David
> Localisation Project Manager
> Xlated ltd
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RE: Compiling FM into help files (wfp file)

2011-01-12 Thread Jennifer Randel
Hi Anton, 
I believe that Quadralay makes WebWorks...  

Jennifer Randel
Data Processing Technical Writer
Kern High School District


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Subject: Compiling FM into help files (wfp file)

 
 Hello all,

A client is requesting to recompile FM7 files after translation.
The template file available in the staging directory has .wfp extension.
Opening it in a text editor, I can see "quadralay-wdt-80"
The output files requested are .chm and compiled online help.

Is anybody able to tell me which tool has been used and which version?

Thank you

Anton David
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So Frustrated... Frame Drawing objects -> .mif conversion with r/w rules

2011-01-12 Thread Margaret Lee
It has been a long time since I have spent this much time trying to
figure out a function in FrameMaker.



Here is what I expect to happen.

I have an .xml file that I can open in FrameMaker and edit the
graphics using the frame graphic tools.

Upon save, it would save the anchored frame as .mif using the entity
name only with no counting.

I can reopen the xml file, make a change and upon save, the graphics
are still named the same.



Errors

- entity names continue to number.

- I can save the xml file successfully but I can not read back into FrameMaker.

(VERY CURIOUS ERROR. When I try to read it back into FrameMaker it
will not open and gives no error but at this point FrameMaker is
completely crashed. Any file I try to open is a white sheet.)

Below are the details of my application. If anyone has time to pick
through these details and me find a solution, it is greatly
appreciated.

Margaret



FM9.0p255
XP Service Pack3
I open and save to test my application using a .xml file, not .fm
I have a structured file with anchored frames with frame drawings.



XML Declaration*

















XML Graphic Element







structapps.fm*

In the structapps.fm file I have also defined (with same definitions
as above) Entities in the XMLApplication Entities -> Entity ->
EntityName & FileName





template for xml application

On the reference page I have filled out the Entity Declarations, List
of Processing Instructions(PI)

mif is the Notation declaration and I have the Name, Type, System, and
Notation filled out in the Entity Declaration.



*r/w rules*

element "GRAPHIC" {
  is fm graphic element;
   writer anchored frame export to file "$(entity).mif"
    as "MIF";
}
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Release notes for Frame 10?

2011-01-12 Thread Roger Shuttleworth
Hello All

Does anyone know if there are Release Notes for Frame 10, RoboHelp 9, and/or 
TCS3? I've looked on the Adobe web site but don't see any. I'm interested to 
know whether any of the manifold bugs, annoyances, and crashes found in Frame 9 
and the FM-RH "integration" have been addressed. (In other words, whether we 
should be looking at creating online output using something that works.)

Thanks,
Roger

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Re: Frame 9 and 10

2011-01-12 Thread Steve Johnson
http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/try.html

On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 8:46 AM, Mike Wickham  wrote:
>
>
> On 1/11/2011 3:09 PM, Alison Craig wrote:
>>
>> Having only ever used Frame 9, I wonder if anyone can tell me the protocol
>> for installing a trial of Frame 10 on the same machine as Frame 9 - without
>> wiping out or affecting the Frame 9 installation?
>>
> In one of the publicity pages I read for FM10, I believe it referred to the
> trial as being an online application, rather than a download.
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OmniHelp with Google Chrome

2011-01-12 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 14:26:54 -0500, Jeff Coatsworth 
 wrote:

>There is workaround, but it involves the user setting a 
>command line instruction to allow opening of local Webhelp 
>files. See the Adobe forum for the instruction. 

I checked the forum, and it turns out that Snippet 130 
on Peter Grainge's site has the answer:
  http://www.grainge.org/pages/snippets/snippets.htm

In brief, you must start Chrome with the added switch
  --allow-file-access-from-files
which you can put in your shortcut at the end of the
Target field in its Properties | Shortcut tab (after 
a space).  

This is a change all your users would need to make; 
you can't change anything in the WebHelp or OmniHelp 
to allow that, for obvious security reasons.

HTH!

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
http://www.omsys.com/


OmniHelp with Google Chrome

2011-01-12 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
There is workaround, but it involves the user setting a command line 
instruction to allow opening of local Webhelp files. See the Adobe forum for 
the instruction. 

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Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 12:06 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Cc: Martha Lee
Subject: Re: OmniHelp with Google Chrome

On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 10:21:06 -0500, "Martha Lee"  
wrote:

>Our Mif2Go OmniHelp files fail to load in Google Chrome. I realize that we
>need an ohct_.css file for Google Chrome. Anyone know if that file is
>available? And would I need any other updated file to open OmniHelp in
>Chrome?

Currently, *no* form of WebHelp loads from a local
copy in Chrome, because of a restriction Chrome
(and only Chrome) imposes on JavaScript.  The CSS
has nothing to do with it.

However, OmniHelp *will* load when run from a
server, or the Web.  To see that, try:
  http://www.omsys.com/dcl/ohusergd/
which opens in a new window.  Chrome is very slow 
loading, but it gets there eventually.  Use Firefox 
if at all possible, or IE, Opera, Safari, or Linux
Konqueror.  All work with both local and network 
copies, as do many more.

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Flare vs Frame

2011-01-12 Thread Veronica Kutt
Here are answers to the software purchasing questions... Front Runner is
also an Adobe Software Reseller...

To answer Jim Pinkham's question...
If your company purchased a Maintenance package with FrameMaker you would
get updates/upgrades as they become available, provided the Maintenance is
current.


To answer Steve Johnson's question...
If a customer wants to do backward licensing, they order the current version
volume license of the product and the old ESD (Electronic Software Download
- one version back). Then they call Adobe Customer Care at 800-443-8158 to
request a serial number that matches the ESD.  They will need to provide the
Adobe order number for the current version order. Also, if they purchased an
upgrade license (for example, CS3 to CS5), they will also need to provide
the serial number of the original product they are upgrading from. It takes
a few days to get the old serial number.

This is a much easier process for someone who already has some volume
licenses of the product they want to install and just needs to buy more of
them. They don?t need to buy the old ESD unless they don?t already have the
old media. And they don?t need to call for a serial number; they just use
the old serial number they already have to install on additional
workstations.


If anyone is looking to purchase software let us know at Front Runner. We
can provide you pricing for the software and when you purchase the software
from us you get discounts on the training!

Thanks

Sincerely,

Veronica K?tt
President
Front Runner Training, a Div. of Front Runner Publishing Solutions Inc.
416-515-0155
Call Toll free: 1-877-999-0155
veronica at front-runner.com

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Subject: Re: Flare vs Frame

You can still buy Frame 8 using a special kind of licensing I can't
think of now, maybe volume licensing.

Search the Adobe Forum; you'll find it.

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Writer  wrote:
>> >I believe that I can go from Frame to .chm.
>>
>> No, you can't.? You could use Mif2Go (our product,
>> for $295), or ePublisher (for way more) 
>
> WebWorks ePublisher can also process Word files, if you decide to stick
with Word. It can also process a mix of Word, FM, and XML files.
>
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Compiling FM into help files (wfp file)

2011-01-12 Thread Stuart Rogers
On 12/01/2011 12:41 PM, Anton David wrote:
>
>   Hello all,
>
> A client is requesting to recompile FM7 files after translation.
> The template file available in the staging directory has .wfp extension.
> Opening it in a text editor, I can see "quadralay-wdt-80"
> The output files requested are .chm and compiled online help.
>
> Is anybody able to tell me which tool has been used and which version?
>

Quadralay WebWorks Publisher (likely, given the FM7 timeframe) or 
ePublisher (latest).  Sorry I can't help with version number.

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FrameMaker search

2011-01-12 Thread Baruch Brodersen
Ragnar has some very good suggestions. 10 quick search and replaces might be
the best bet.
The MIF to Word to MIF round trip also works well. If you do that, search
and replace in Word using these wildcards:

Find: ([0-9][0-9])([a-z][a-z])
Replace with: \1 \2

Note that there is an empty space between "\1" and "\2"

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On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 2:25 AM, Ragnar Hanas wrote:

> You can do 10 quick searches: 1in, 2in, 3in etc, and then replace by 1 in,
> 2
> in, 3 in.
> I have done so on several occasions, and it doesn?t take much extra time
> compared to one major search.
> The other option would be to save as MIF, then open in Word.  However, when
> searching in Word as you describe, can you insert the space correctly and
> proceed by just clicking "enter" or do you need to do it manually?
> Ragnar Hanas
> Uddevalla Hospital, Sweden
>
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Nancy Allison
> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:45 PM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: FrameMaker search
>
>
> Hi, all.
>
> I need to correct the measurements, in inches, in which the space has been
> omitted between the number and the unit.
>
> In other words:
>
> Height: 17in
> Depth: 21in
> Width: 10in
>
> Or:
>
> The unit is 17in deep.
>
> In Word, I could specify that a numerical value precedes the alpha
> characters "in" and perform a search.
>
> In FrameMaker, is there a way to make a search that specific?
>
> As it is, I believe I have to search for every instance of "in," which
> turns
> up every word that contains the two letters "in" including, well,
> **including**.
>
> It's rare that I long for Word, but this is one of those instances. I can
> save the whole thing to RTF and do the search in Word, but I'd like to find
> out first if Frame has the capability.
>
> --Nancy
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Compiling FM into help files (wfp file)

2011-01-12 Thread Steve Johnson
I believe that's the WebWorks project file and it predates 9.x so it
might be WebWorks Publisher 2003 or something like that, which
Quadralay no longer supports.

If it's the project file, it won't help you anyway. It's in binary
format and all it does is define the output format. It doesn't have
any of the source in it.

http://www.webworks.com/Support/ePublisher/Legacy_Docs/Online_Manuals/ePublisher_Pro/03_ManagingProjects.5.2.shtml

On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Anton David  wrote:
>
> ?Hello all,
>
> A client is requesting to recompile FM7 files after translation.
> The template file available in the staging directory has .wfp extension.
> Opening it in a text editor, I can see "quadralay-wdt-80"
> The output files requested are .chm and compiled online help.
>
> Is anybody able to tell me which tool has been used and which version?
>
> Thank you
>
> Anton David
> Localisation Project Manager
> Xlated ltd
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Re: OmniHelp with Google Chrome

2011-01-12 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 14:26:54 -0500, Jeff Coatsworth 
 wrote:

>There is workaround, but it involves the user setting a 
>command line instruction to allow opening of local Webhelp 
>files. See the Adobe forum for the instruction. 

I checked the forum, and it turns out that Snippet 130 
on Peter Grainge's site has the answer:
  http://www.grainge.org/pages/snippets/snippets.htm

In brief, you must start Chrome with the added switch
  --allow-file-access-from-files
which you can put in your shortcut at the end of the
Target field in its Properties | Shortcut tab (after 
a space).  

This is a change all your users would need to make; 
you can't change anything in the WebHelp or OmniHelp 
to allow that, for obvious security reasons.

HTH!

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Frame 9 and 10

2011-01-12 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Tue, 11 Jan 2011 13:09:16 -0800, Alison Craig 
 wrote:

>Having only ever used Frame 9, I wonder if anyone can 
>tell me the protocol for installing a trial of Frame 10 
>on the same machine as Frame 9 - without wiping out or 
>affecting the Frame 9 installation?

Simple.  Don't do it.  Install the FM10 or TCS3 trial
on a non-production machine only.  You may find that
any previous Frame version stops working, if not when
you install the demo, then when you remove the demo or 
it expires.  It may be sufficient to install it in its
own virtual machine, but I wouldn't risk a system on
which my livelihood depended...

Just my opinion.  ;-)

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OmniHelp with Google Chrome

2011-01-12 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 10:21:06 -0500, "Martha Lee"  
wrote:

>Our Mif2Go OmniHelp files fail to load in Google Chrome. I realize that we
>need an ohct_.css file for Google Chrome. Anyone know if that file is
>available? And would I need any other updated file to open OmniHelp in
>Chrome?

Currently, *no* form of WebHelp loads from a local
copy in Chrome, because of a restriction Chrome
(and only Chrome) imposes on JavaScript.  The CSS
has nothing to do with it.

However, OmniHelp *will* load when run from a
server, or the Web.  To see that, try:
  http://www.omsys.com/dcl/ohusergd/
which opens in a new window.  Chrome is very slow 
loading, but it gets there eventually.  Use Firefox 
if at all possible, or IE, Opera, Safari, or Linux
Konqueror.  All work with both local and network 
copies, as do many more.

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
http://www.omsys.com/


Flare vs Frame

2011-01-12 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
Flare is a full-blown single sourcing program, something like Structured 
Frame, and includes online help output. It's more complicated to use, 
but might be more powerful. I never used it.

You have to take into account that the downside to using more complex 
and less popular programs is that the company you are working for would 
be stuck with getting writers that know that particular tool.

Frame is a nice compromise of a relatively easy tool to learn, very 
popular and very powerful.

Just my 2 cents.

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On 1/11/2011 3:18 PM, Paul Carr wrote:
> Folks,
>
> At my new contract, they have Word (och!) and want to output to compiled html 
> (by which I assume they mean .chm).  They think.
>
> My audience is support folks for internal software.
>
> They think that they want to stay with Word for the source files because, 
> down the road, anyone will be able to maintain the source files, since 
> everyone knows Word.
>
> I would like to convince them to switch to Flare or Frame 8.
>
> I think that they might agree to switch if I can show them that it would be 
> worth it.
>
> I told them that Frame would make the development of the .chm-friendly 
> content much easier than Word, because of Frame's advanced x-ref options, for 
> one thing. I believe that I can go from Frame to .chm. Never did it before.
>
> I am not familiar with Flare, so I could not "sell" Flare per se.
>
> Also, a key selling point would be writing software that would provide an 
> online review environment in which the SMEs could make tracked changes to my 
> document, and I could then accept or change or ignore their changes at my 
> leisure.
>
> I do not see that Flare provides an online review environment for SMEs.
> Framemaker 8 did not provide this. I am not familiar with Frame 9.
>
> Could anyone offer any guidance on this?
>
> Thanks.
>
> best,
> Paul
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RE: OmniHelp with Google Chrome

2011-01-12 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
There is workaround, but it involves the user setting a command line 
instruction to allow opening of local Webhelp files. See the Adobe forum for 
the instruction. 

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy H. Griffith
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 12:06 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Cc: Martha Lee
Subject: Re: OmniHelp with Google Chrome

On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 10:21:06 -0500, "Martha Lee"  
wrote:

>Our Mif2Go OmniHelp files fail to load in Google Chrome. I realize that we
>need an ohct_.css file for Google Chrome. Anyone know if that file is
>available? And would I need any other updated file to open OmniHelp in
>Chrome?

Currently, *no* form of WebHelp loads from a local
copy in Chrome, because of a restriction Chrome
(and only Chrome) imposes on JavaScript.  The CSS
has nothing to do with it.

However, OmniHelp *will* load when run from a
server, or the Web.  To see that, try:
  http://www.omsys.com/dcl/ohusergd/
which opens in a new window.  Chrome is very slow 
loading, but it gets there eventually.  Use Firefox 
if at all possible, or IE, Opera, Safari, or Linux
Konqueror.  All work with both local and network 
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FM10 released

2011-01-12 Thread Art Campbell
In the past, Adobe's allowed a 60-90-120 day update window, but the
exact length and deal has varied But I haven't heard anything
about the 9/10 situation yet.
May want to ping RJ Jacquez at Adobe  and ask.

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On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Pinkham, Jim  wrote:
> We purchased FM 9 on Nov. 10 or 11. Anyone know if there's a window of
> free upgrade, such as MS has on new versions of Office?
>
> I know...I know. But one can **hope** :)
>
> Jim
>
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tim J. Slager
> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 3:51 PM
> To: John Sgammato; framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: RE: FM10 released
>
> Oh great! Since it was right around the corner, I was waiting for FM 10
> before upgrading from 7.2. Now I get to pay full price. Hope I can still
> buy ver. 9.
>
> tims
>
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of John Sgammato
> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 1:34 PM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com; Jeremy H. Griffith
> Subject: FM10 released
>
> Framemaker 10, TCS 3 and RoboHelp 9 were just launched.
> http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/2011/01/framemaker10-and-framemaker-serv
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Release notes for Frame 10?

2011-01-12 Thread Roger Shuttleworth
Hello All

Does anyone know if there are Release Notes for Frame 10, RoboHelp 9, and/or 
TCS3? I've looked on the Adobe web site but don't see any. I'm interested to 
know whether any of the manifold bugs, annoyances, and crashes found in Frame 9 
and the FM-RH "integration" have been addressed. (In other words, whether we 
should be looking at creating online output using something that works.)

Thanks,
Roger

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Re: FrameMaker search

2011-01-12 Thread Baruch Brodersen
Ragnar has some very good suggestions. 10 quick search and replaces might be
the best bet.
The MIF to Word to MIF round trip also works well. If you do that, search
and replace in Word using these wildcards:

Find: ([0-9][0-9])([a-z][a-z])
Replace with: \1 \2

Note that there is an empty space between "\1" and "\2"

Baruch Brodersen


On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 2:25 AM, Ragnar Hanas wrote:

> You can do 10 quick searches: 1in, 2in, 3in etc, and then replace by 1 in,
> 2
> in, 3 in.
> I have done so on several occasions, and it doesn´t take much extra time
> compared to one major search.
> The other option would be to save as MIF, then open in Word.  However, when
> searching in Word as you describe, can you insert the space correctly and
> proceed by just clicking "enter" or do you need to do it manually?
> Ragnar Hanas
> Uddevalla Hospital, Sweden
>
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Nancy Allison
> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:45 PM
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: FrameMaker search
>
>
> Hi, all.
>
> I need to correct the measurements, in inches, in which the space has been
> omitted between the number and the unit.
>
> In other words:
>
> Height: 17in
> Depth: 21in
> Width: 10in
>
> Or:
>
> The unit is 17in deep.
>
> In Word, I could specify that a numerical value precedes the alpha
> characters "in" and perform a search.
>
> In FrameMaker, is there a way to make a search that specific?
>
> As it is, I believe I have to search for every instance of "in," which
> turns
> up every word that contains the two letters "in" including, well,
> **including**.
>
> It's rare that I long for Word, but this is one of those instances. I can
> save the whole thing to RTF and do the search in Word, but I'd like to find
> out first if Frame has the capability.
>
> --Nancy
>
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Re: Compiling FM into help files (wfp file)

2011-01-12 Thread Writer
Some version of (Quadralay) WebWorks Publisher or ePublisher (www.webworks.com).

Nadine

--- On Wed, 1/12/11, Anton David  wrote:

> From: Anton David 
> Subject: Compiling FM into help files (wfp file)
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Date: Wednesday, January 12, 2011, 12:41 PM
>  
>  Hello all,
> 
> A client is requesting to recompile FM7 files after
> translation.
> The template file available in the staging directory has
> .wfp extension.
> Opening it in a text editor, I can see "quadralay-wdt-80"
> The output files requested are .chm and compiled online
> help.
> 
> Is anybody able to tell me which tool has been used and
> which version?
> 
> Thank you
> 
> Anton David
> Localisation Project Manager
> Xlated ltd
>  
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Re: Compiling FM into help files (wfp file)

2011-01-12 Thread Stuart Rogers

On 12/01/2011 12:41 PM, Anton David wrote:


  Hello all,

A client is requesting to recompile FM7 files after translation.
The template file available in the staging directory has .wfp extension.
Opening it in a text editor, I can see "quadralay-wdt-80"
The output files requested are .chm and compiled online help.

Is anybody able to tell me which tool has been used and which version?



Quadralay WebWorks Publisher (likely, given the FM7 timeframe) or 
ePublisher (latest).  Sorry I can't help with version number.


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Compiling FM into help files (wfp file)

2011-01-12 Thread Writer
Some version of (Quadralay) WebWorks Publisher or ePublisher (www.webworks.com).

Nadine

--- On Wed, 1/12/11, Anton David  wrote:

> From: Anton David 
> Subject: Compiling FM into help files (wfp file)
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Date: Wednesday, January 12, 2011, 12:41 PM
>  
>  Hello all,
> 
> A client is requesting to recompile FM7 files after
> translation.
> The template file available in the staging directory has
> .wfp extension.
> Opening it in a text editor, I can see "quadralay-wdt-80"
> The output files requested are .chm and compiled online
> help.
> 
> Is anybody able to tell me which tool has been used and
> which version?
> 
> Thank you
> 
> Anton David
> Localisation Project Manager
> Xlated ltd
>  
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So Frustrated... Frame Drawing objects -> .mif conversion with r/w rules

2011-01-12 Thread Margaret Lee
It has been a long time since I have spent this much time trying to
figure out a function in FrameMaker.



Here is what I expect to happen.

I have an .xml file that I can open in FrameMaker and edit the
graphics using the frame graphic tools.

Upon save, it would save the anchored frame as .mif using the entity
name only with no counting.

I can reopen the xml file, make a change and upon save, the graphics
are still named the same.



Errors

- entity names continue to number.

- I can save the xml file successfully but I can not read back into FrameMaker.

(VERY CURIOUS ERROR. When I try to read it back into FrameMaker it
will not open and gives no error but at this point FrameMaker is
completely crashed. Any file I try to open is a white sheet.)

Below are the details of my application. If anyone has time to pick
through these details and me find a solution, it is greatly
appreciated.

Margaret



FM9.0p255
XP Service Pack3
I open and save to test my application using a .xml file, not .fm
I have a structured file with anchored frames with frame drawings.



XML Declaration*

















XML Graphic Element







structapps.fm*

In the structapps.fm file I have also defined (with same definitions
as above) Entities in the XMLApplication Entities -> Entity ->
EntityName & FileName





template for xml application

On the reference page I have filled out the Entity Declarations, List
of Processing Instructions(PI)

mif is the Notation declaration and I have the Name, Type, System, and
Notation filled out in the Entity Declaration.



*r/w rules*

element "GRAPHIC" {
? is fm graphic element;
?? writer anchored frame export to file "$(entity).mif"
??? as "MIF";
}


Compiling FM into help files (wfp file)

2011-01-12 Thread Jennifer Randel
Hi Anton, 
I believe that Quadralay makes WebWorks...  

Jennifer Randel
Data Processing Technical Writer
Kern High School District


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Subject: Compiling FM into help files (wfp file)


 Hello all,

A client is requesting to recompile FM7 files after translation.
The template file available in the staging directory has .wfp extension.
Opening it in a text editor, I can see "quadralay-wdt-80"
The output files requested are .chm and compiled online help.

Is anybody able to tell me which tool has been used and which version?

Thank you

Anton David
Localisation Project Manager
Xlated ltd


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Compiling FM into help files (wfp file)

2011-01-12 Thread Anton David
 
 Hello all,

A client is requesting to recompile FM7 files after translation.
The template file available in the staging directory has .wfp extension.
Opening it in a text editor, I can see "quadralay-wdt-80"
The output files requested are .chm and compiled online help.

Is anybody able to tell me which tool has been used and which version?

Thank you

Anton David
Localisation Project Manager
Xlated ltd
 

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OmniHelp with Google Chrome

2011-01-12 Thread Martha Lee
Hi All,

Our Mif2Go OmniHelp files fail to load in Google Chrome. I realize that we
need an ohct_.css file for Google Chrome. Anyone know if that file is
available? And would I need any other updated file to open OmniHelp in
Chrome?

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Re: Frame 9 and 10

2011-01-12 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Tue, 11 Jan 2011 13:09:16 -0800, Alison Craig 
 wrote:

>Having only ever used Frame 9, I wonder if anyone can 
>tell me the protocol for installing a trial of Frame 10 
>on the same machine as Frame 9 - without wiping out or 
>affecting the Frame 9 installation?

Simple.  Don't do it.  Install the FM10 or TCS3 trial
on a non-production machine only.  You may find that
any previous Frame version stops working, if not when
you install the demo, then when you remove the demo or 
it expires.  It may be sufficient to install it in its
own virtual machine, but I wouldn't risk a system on
which my livelihood depended...

Just my opinion.  ;-)

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http://www.omsys.com/
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Re: OmniHelp with Google Chrome

2011-01-12 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 10:21:06 -0500, "Martha Lee"  
wrote:

>Our Mif2Go OmniHelp files fail to load in Google Chrome. I realize that we
>need an ohct_.css file for Google Chrome. Anyone know if that file is
>available? And would I need any other updated file to open OmniHelp in
>Chrome?

Currently, *no* form of WebHelp loads from a local
copy in Chrome, because of a restriction Chrome
(and only Chrome) imposes on JavaScript.  The CSS
has nothing to do with it.

However, OmniHelp *will* load when run from a
server, or the Web.  To see that, try:
  http://www.omsys.com/dcl/ohusergd/
which opens in a new window.  Chrome is very slow 
loading, but it gets there eventually.  Use Firefox 
if at all possible, or IE, Opera, Safari, or Linux
Konqueror.  All work with both local and network 
copies, as do many more.

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
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RE: Frame 9 and 10 - SOLVED

2011-01-12 Thread Alison Craig
Jeremy:

I've received lots of good advice. Most people say having 2 simultaneous 
versions on the same machine is fine - unless you want to uninstall one. That 
being the case, if the trial is actually a download, I'm going to load it on my 
old (current) machine after I get my new machine next week. 

I'll only get a few days to play with it before they take away the old system, 
but I'm really only looking for any "wow" upgrades that would make my life 200% 
easier. Anything less and I couldn't begin to justify the expense - 
particularly as my new (currently on order) system with software updates 
(excluding a monitor) is about $1900.

Alison

From: Jeremy H. Griffith [jer...@omsys.com]
Sent: January 12, 2011 9:12 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Cc: Alison Craig
Subject: Re: Frame 9 and 10

On Tue, 11 Jan 2011 13:09:16 -0800, Alison Craig
 wrote:

>Having only ever used Frame 9, I wonder if anyone can
>tell me the protocol for installing a trial of Frame 10
>on the same machine as Frame 9 - without wiping out or
>affecting the Frame 9 installation?

Simple.  Don't do it.  Install the FM10 or TCS3 trial
on a non-production machine only.  You may find that
any previous Frame version stops working, if not when
you install the demo, then when you remove the demo or
it expires.  It may be sufficient to install it in its
own virtual machine, but I wouldn't risk a system on
which my livelihood depended...

Just my opinion.  ;-)

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http://www.omsys.com/
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Frame 9 and 10 - SOLVED

2011-01-12 Thread Alison Craig
Jeremy:

I've received lots of good advice. Most people say having 2 simultaneous 
versions on the same machine is fine - unless you want to uninstall one. That 
being the case, if the trial is actually a download, I'm going to load it on my 
old (current) machine after I get my new machine next week. 

I'll only get a few days to play with it before they take away the old system, 
but I'm really only looking for any "wow" upgrades that would make my life 200% 
easier. Anything less and I couldn't begin to justify the expense - 
particularly as my new (currently on order) system with software updates 
(excluding a monitor) is about $1900.

Alison

From: Jeremy H. Griffith [jer...@omsys.com]
Sent: January 12, 2011 9:12 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Cc: Alison Craig
Subject: Re: Frame 9 and 10

On Tue, 11 Jan 2011 13:09:16 -0800, Alison Craig
 wrote:

>Having only ever used Frame 9, I wonder if anyone can
>tell me the protocol for installing a trial of Frame 10
>on the same machine as Frame 9 - without wiping out or
>affecting the Frame 9 installation?

Simple.  Don't do it.  Install the FM10 or TCS3 trial
on a non-production machine only.  You may find that
any previous Frame version stops working, if not when
you install the demo, then when you remove the demo or
it expires.  It may be sufficient to install it in its
own virtual machine, but I wouldn't risk a system on
which my livelihood depended...

Just my opinion.  ;-)

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
http://www.omsys.com/


Frame 9 and 10

2011-01-12 Thread Steve Johnson
http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/try.html

On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 8:46 AM, Mike Wickham  wrote:
>
>
> On 1/11/2011 3:09 PM, Alison Craig wrote:
>>
>> Having only ever used Frame 9, I wonder if anyone can tell me the protocol
>> for installing a trial of Frame 10 on the same machine as Frame 9 - without
>> wiping out or affecting the Frame 9 installation?
>>
> In one of the publicity pages I read for FM10, I believe it referred to the
> trial as being an online application, rather than a download.
>
> Mike Wickham
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Frame 9 and 10

2011-01-12 Thread Mike Wickham


On 1/11/2011 3:09 PM, Alison Craig wrote:
> Having only ever used Frame 9, I wonder if anyone can tell me the protocol 
> for installing a trial of Frame 10 on the same machine as Frame 9 - without 
> wiping out or affecting the Frame 9 installation?
>
In one of the publicity pages I read for FM10, I believe it referred to 
the trial as being an online application, rather than a download.

Mike Wickham



OmniHelp with Google Chrome

2011-01-12 Thread Martha Lee
Hi All,

Our Mif2Go OmniHelp files fail to load in Google Chrome. I realize that we
need an ohct_.css file for Google Chrome. Anyone know if that file is
available? And would I need any other updated file to open OmniHelp in
Chrome?

I'm on digest, so please cc me on any response.

Thanks.

Martha Lee
Documentation Department
Coventor, Inc.
919-854-7500 ext. 120
martha@coventor.com

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FM10 released

2011-01-12 Thread Pinkham, Jim
We purchased FM 9 on Nov. 10 or 11. Anyone know if there's a window of
free upgrade, such as MS has on new versions of Office?

I know...I know. But one can **hope** :)

Jim 

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[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tim J. Slager
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 3:51 PM
To: John Sgammato; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: FM10 released

Oh great! Since it was right around the corner, I was waiting for FM 10
before upgrading from 7.2. Now I get to pay full price. Hope I can still
buy ver. 9.

tims

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To: framers at lists.frameusers.com; Jeremy H. Griffith
Subject: FM10 released

Framemaker 10, TCS 3 and RoboHelp 9 were just launched. 
http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/2011/01/framemaker10-and-framemaker-serv
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Re: FM10 released

2011-01-12 Thread Art Campbell
In the past, Adobe's allowed a 60-90-120 day update window, but the
exact length and deal has varied But I haven't heard anything
about the 9/10 situation yet.
May want to ping RJ Jacquez at Adobe  and ask.

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On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Pinkham, Jim  wrote:
> We purchased FM 9 on Nov. 10 or 11. Anyone know if there's a window of
> free upgrade, such as MS has on new versions of Office?
>
> I know...I know. But one can **hope** :)
>
> Jim
>
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 3:51 PM
> To: John Sgammato; framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: RE: FM10 released
>
> Oh great! Since it was right around the corner, I was waiting for FM 10
> before upgrading from 7.2. Now I get to pay full price. Hope I can still
> buy ver. 9.
>
> tims
>
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 1:34 PM
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com; Jeremy H. Griffith
> Subject: FM10 released
>
> Framemaker 10, TCS 3 and RoboHelp 9 were just launched.
> http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/2011/01/framemaker10-and-framemaker-serv
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FrameMaker search

2011-01-12 Thread Ragnar Hanas
You can do 10 quick searches: 1in, 2in, 3in etc, and then replace by 1 in, 2
in, 3 in.
I have done so on several occasions, and it doesn?t take much extra time
compared to one major search.
The other option would be to save as MIF, then open in Word.  However, when
searching in Word as you describe, can you insert the space correctly and
proceed by just clicking "enter" or do you need to do it manually?
Ragnar Hanas
Uddevalla Hospital, Sweden

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To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: FrameMaker search


Hi, all.

I need to correct the measurements, in inches, in which the space has been
omitted between the number and the unit.

In other words: 

Height: 17in
Depth: 21in
Width: 10in

Or:

The unit is 17in deep.

In Word, I could specify that a numerical value precedes the alpha
characters "in" and perform a search.

In FrameMaker, is there a way to make a search that specific?

As it is, I believe I have to search for every instance of "in," which turns
up every word that contains the two letters "in" including, well,
**including**.

It's rare that I long for Word, but this is one of those instances. I can
save the whole thing to RTF and do the search in Word, but I'd like to find
out first if Frame has the capability.

--Nancy



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RE: Frame 9 and 10

2011-01-12 Thread Lea Rush
I'm afraid that you may be on the right track, Alison. I tried the online
trial yesterday, and I found it clunky and non-intuitive. The insult to the
injury is that the example file (which I found eventually) warns you that
it's a Ver9 file. That's just lazy for a demo.

My $0.02 worth as a software tester,
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> I've stopped looking for logic when I'm on the Adobe website :-(((
> 
> Alison
> 
> 
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protocol for
> installing a trial of Frame 10 on the same machine as Frame 9 - without
wiping
> out or affecting the Frame 9 installation?
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> In one of the publicity pages I read for FM10, I believe it referred to
the trial as
> being an online application, rather than a download.
> 
> Mike Wickham
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> Hmmm ... the trial download as nearly 1GB in size. It appears to be a full
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Frame 9 and 10

2011-01-12 Thread Lea Rush
I'm afraid that you may be on the right track, Alison. I tried the online
trial yesterday, and I found it clunky and non-intuitive. The insult to the
injury is that the example file (which I found eventually) warns you that
it's a Ver9 file. That's just lazy for a demo.

My $0.02 worth as a software tester,
Lea


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> 
> I've stopped looking for logic when I'm on the Adobe website :-(((
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> Alison
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> 
> On 1/11/2011 3:09 PM, Alison Craig wrote:
> > Having only ever used Frame 9, I wonder if anyone can tell me the
protocol for
> installing a trial of Frame 10 on the same machine as Frame 9 - without
wiping
> out or affecting the Frame 9 installation?
> >
> In one of the publicity pages I read for FM10, I believe it referred to
the trial as
> being an online application, rather than a download.
> 
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> 
> Hmmm ... the trial download as nearly 1GB in size. It appears to be a full
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RE: Frame 9 and 10

2011-01-12 Thread Alison Craig
I've stopped looking for logic when I'm on the Adobe website :-(((

Alison


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Subject: RE: Frame 9 and 10

On 1/11/2011 3:09 PM, Alison Craig wrote:
> Having only ever used Frame 9, I wonder if anyone can tell me the protocol 
> for installing a trial of Frame 10 on the same machine as Frame 9 - without 
> wiping out or affecting the Frame 9 installation?
>
In one of the publicity pages I read for FM10, I believe it referred to the 
trial as being an online application, rather than a download.

Mike Wickham


Hmmm ... the trial download as nearly 1GB in size. It appears to be a full 
install ...

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Frame 9 and 10

2011-01-12 Thread Alison Craig
I've stopped looking for logic when I'm on the Adobe website :-(((

Alison


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Subject: RE: Frame 9 and 10

On 1/11/2011 3:09 PM, Alison Craig wrote:
> Having only ever used Frame 9, I wonder if anyone can tell me the protocol 
> for installing a trial of Frame 10 on the same machine as Frame 9 - without 
> wiping out or affecting the Frame 9 installation?
>
In one of the publicity pages I read for FM10, I believe it referred to the 
trial as being an online application, rather than a download.

Mike Wickham


Hmmm ... the trial download as nearly 1GB in size. It appears to be a full 
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RE: Frame 9 and 10

2011-01-12 Thread Owen, Clint
FM10 is for sale on Adobe's website and FM9 is not.

For FM9, their trial download was the full install, but it would only
work for 30 days or until you bought the activation code. I assume FM10
is the same.

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On 1/11/2011 3:09 PM, Alison Craig wrote:
> Having only ever used Frame 9, I wonder if anyone can tell me the
protocol for installing a trial of Frame 10 on the same machine as Frame
9 - without wiping out or affecting the Frame 9 installation?
>
In one of the publicity pages I read for FM10, I believe it referred to
the trial as being an online application, rather than a download.

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Hmmm ... the trial download as nearly 1GB in size. It appears to be a
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Frame 9 and 10

2011-01-12 Thread Owen, Clint
FM10 is for sale on Adobe's website and FM9 is not.

For FM9, their trial download was the full install, but it would only
work for 30 days or until you bought the activation code. I assume FM10
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Subject: RE: Frame 9 and 10

On 1/11/2011 3:09 PM, Alison Craig wrote:
> Having only ever used Frame 9, I wonder if anyone can tell me the
protocol for installing a trial of Frame 10 on the same machine as Frame
9 - without wiping out or affecting the Frame 9 installation?
>
In one of the publicity pages I read for FM10, I believe it referred to
the trial as being an online application, rather than a download.

Mike Wickham


Hmmm ... the trial download as nearly 1GB in size. It appears to be a
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RE: Frame 9 and 10

2011-01-12 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
On 1/11/2011 3:09 PM, Alison Craig wrote:
> Having only ever used Frame 9, I wonder if anyone can tell me the protocol 
> for installing a trial of Frame 10 on the same machine as Frame 9 - without 
> wiping out or affecting the Frame 9 installation?
>
In one of the publicity pages I read for FM10, I believe it referred to the 
trial as being an online application, rather than a download.

Mike Wickham


Hmmm ... the trial download as nearly 1GB in size. It appears to be a full 
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Frame 9 and 10

2011-01-12 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
On 1/11/2011 3:09 PM, Alison Craig wrote:
> Having only ever used Frame 9, I wonder if anyone can tell me the protocol 
> for installing a trial of Frame 10 on the same machine as Frame 9 - without 
> wiping out or affecting the Frame 9 installation?
>
In one of the publicity pages I read for FM10, I believe it referred to the 
trial as being an online application, rather than a download.

Mike Wickham


Hmmm ... the trial download as nearly 1GB in size. It appears to be a full 
install ...

Z



Re: Frame 9 and 10

2011-01-12 Thread Mike Wickham



On 1/11/2011 3:09 PM, Alison Craig wrote:

Having only ever used Frame 9, I wonder if anyone can tell me the protocol for 
installing a trial of Frame 10 on the same machine as Frame 9 - without wiping 
out or affecting the Frame 9 installation?

In one of the publicity pages I read for FM10, I believe it referred to 
the trial as being an online application, rather than a download.


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RE: FM10 released

2011-01-12 Thread Pinkham, Jim
We purchased FM 9 on Nov. 10 or 11. Anyone know if there's a window of
free upgrade, such as MS has on new versions of Office?

I know...I know. But one can **hope** :)

Jim 

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Subject: RE: FM10 released

Oh great! Since it was right around the corner, I was waiting for FM 10
before upgrading from 7.2. Now I get to pay full price. Hope I can still
buy ver. 9.

tims

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Framemaker 10, TCS 3 and RoboHelp 9 were just launched. 
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RE: FrameMaker search

2011-01-12 Thread Ragnar Hanas
You can do 10 quick searches: 1in, 2in, 3in etc, and then replace by 1 in, 2
in, 3 in.
I have done so on several occasions, and it doesn´t take much extra time
compared to one major search.
The other option would be to save as MIF, then open in Word.  However, when
searching in Word as you describe, can you insert the space correctly and
proceed by just clicking "enter" or do you need to do it manually?
Ragnar Hanas
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Hi, all.

I need to correct the measurements, in inches, in which the space has been
omitted between the number and the unit.

In other words: 

Height: 17in
Depth: 21in
Width: 10in

Or:

The unit is 17in deep.

In Word, I could specify that a numerical value precedes the alpha
characters "in" and perform a search.

In FrameMaker, is there a way to make a search that specific?

As it is, I believe I have to search for every instance of "in," which turns
up every word that contains the two letters "in" including, well,
**including**.

It's rare that I long for Word, but this is one of those instances. I can
save the whole thing to RTF and do the search in Word, but I'd like to find
out first if Frame has the capability.

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Re: FrameMaker search

2011-01-12 Thread Steve Johnson
This is for Frame 9:

http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/9.0/Using/WSd817046a44e105e21e63e3d11ab7f7862b-7ff6.html

Frame supports wildcard characters in search but it might not do what
you want. You should post this question on the Adobe Frame forum as
well.

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Nancy Allison  wrote:
>
> Hi, all.
>
> I need to correct the measurements, in inches, in which the space has been 
> omitted between the number and the unit.
>
> In other words:
>
> Height: 17in
> Depth: 21in
> Width: 10in
>
> Or:
>
> The unit is 17in deep.
>
> In Word, I could specify that a numerical value precedes the alpha characters 
> "in" and perform a search.
>
> In FrameMaker, is there a way to make a search that specific?
>
> As it is, I believe I have to search for every instance of "in," which turns 
> up every word that contains the two letters "in" including, well, 
> **including**.
>
> It's rare that I long for Word, but this is one of those instances. I can 
> save the whole thing to RTF and do the search in Word, but I'd like to find 
> out first if Frame has the capability.
>
> --Nancy
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RE: FM10 released

2011-01-12 Thread Tim J. Slager
Oh great! Since it was right around the corner, I was waiting for FM 10 before 
upgrading from 7.2. Now I get to pay full price. Hope I can still buy ver. 9.

tims

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Re: Flare vs Frame

2011-01-12 Thread Steve Johnson
You can still buy Frame 8 using a special kind of licensing I can't
think of now, maybe volume licensing.

Search the Adobe Forum; you'll find it.

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Writer  wrote:
>> >I believe that I can go from Frame to .chm.
>>
>> No, you can't.  You could use Mif2Go (our product,
>> for $295), or ePublisher (for way more) 
>
> WebWorks ePublisher can also process Word files, if you decide to stick with 
> Word. It can also process a mix of Word, FM, and XML files.
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RE: framers Digest, Vol 63, Issue 4

2011-01-12 Thread Venkan
Dear All,

The Type 1 Helvetica Font is not activated in FrameMaker 9 Application.
Please help.

Venkan
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   3. Re: Moving FM9 to New Computer - Deciding on OS (Art Campbell)
   4. Movable FM9 Files (Alison Craig)
   5. Re: Movable FM9 Files (Steve Johnson)


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Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 10:52:54 -0800
From: Alison Craig 
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Subject: RE: Moving FM9 to New Computer - Deciding on OS
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Thanks for everyone's feedback.

I'll have to talk to IT and my boss but I think I'd like to go for Windows 7
64 bit - as long as everyone realizes that software upgrades may be in the
cards if "compatibility mode" throws up any roadblocks.

The reading I've done on the web seems split between success and failure in
getting older programs to run reliably.

However, the driver issue in XP 64 bit seems a bigger stumbling block to me.
And I've never been fond of the idea of upgrading to brand new hardware and
using XP Pro 32 bit - sort of like driving a formula one car with a speed
limiter of 50 miles an hour.


Alison

Alison Craig, Technical Writer
Ultrasonix Medical Corporation
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Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 5:29 PM
To: Alison Craig; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Moving FM9 to New Computer - Deciding on OS

I am not knowledgeable of the specific question you asked - about whether FM
9 will work in XP Pro 64 on a new computer (with today's hardware).

But:

Have you considered that the new computer may not work (from a
_hardware_ perspective) with XP Pro 64? You may find that it has new
hardware elements for which there are no XP Pro 64 bit drivers - including
video drivers or disk drivers, etc.

And these possibly _never_ will be provided ... that OS is way too old for
most manufacturers to support now for new hardware. And, this is likely to
be a bigger show-stopper than an old application not running under Windows
7!

Why do you need an extra $1000 in upgrades? In almost all the cases
I know of, the application programs that run under XP Pro should work just
fine in Win 7. I am running very reliably on a new laptop running Windows 7
64-bit on all my old and new applications - absolutely _nothing_ failed to
work!

Also, my son's two systems (one is 5+ years old and now runs Windows
7 32-bit, and the other is a few weeks old and runs Windows 7 64-bit) handle
his old graphics-intensive video games, designed for XP, just fine too!

And, if you do have any problems with any given application in
Windows 7, you can set XP Pro SP3 compatibility mode to the specific
executables that are of concern. Your IT department should know how to do
this easily.

And, finally, there is something new in Win 7 (an add-on from
Microsoft) called "XP Mode" that can run other old apps too, if you have
problems with just setting compatibility mode.

So ... most importantly ... have you tested the specific other apps you are
concerned about, in Windows 7, to see if the upgrades are indeed required? 

Bottom Line (IMHO):

XP Pro is simply too old an OS for many newer applications ... whereas older
applications can generally be tweaked to run fine under Windows 7. In your
shoes, I would move to Windows 7 and figure out how to bring the older apps
along to it. But, without actual testing, I cannot say this with certainty
in your case.

So, my suggestion would be to load the Windows 7 64-bit, load the
applications, see how

Re: Flare vs Frame

2011-01-12 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
Flare is a full-blown single sourcing program, something like Structured 
Frame, and includes online help output. It's more complicated to use, 
but might be more powerful. I never used it.


You have to take into account that the downside to using more complex 
and less popular programs is that the company you are working for would 
be stuck with getting writers that know that particular tool.


Frame is a nice compromise of a relatively easy tool to learn, very 
popular and very powerful.


Just my 2 cents.

Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson
Technical Writer
+972-52-763-7133


On 1/11/2011 3:18 PM, Paul Carr wrote:

Folks,

At my new contract, they have Word (och!) and want to output to compiled html 
(by which I assume they mean .chm).  They think.

My audience is support folks for internal software.

They think that they want to stay with Word for the source files because, down 
the road, anyone will be able to maintain the source files, since everyone 
knows Word.

I would like to convince them to switch to Flare or Frame 8.

I think that they might agree to switch if I can show them that it would be 
worth it.

I told them that Frame would make the development of the .chm-friendly content 
much easier than Word, because of Frame's advanced x-ref options, for one 
thing. I believe that I can go from Frame to .chm. Never did it before.

I am not familiar with Flare, so I could not "sell" Flare per se.

Also, a key selling point would be writing software that would provide an 
online review environment in which the SMEs could make tracked changes to my 
document, and I could then accept or change or ignore their changes at my 
leisure.

I do not see that Flare provides an online review environment for SMEs.
Framemaker 8 did not provide this. I am not familiar with Frame 9.

Could anyone offer any guidance on this?

Thanks.

best,
Paul
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