Installing FrameMaker 7.0, 7.1 or 7.2 on Windows 7

2011-02-14 Thread Brad Anderson
Framers,

Since I've seen a lot of questions about installing older versions of 
FrameMaker in Vista and Windows 7, I posted a how-to at both FrameUsers.com 
and my website (http://www.beyondprint.com).

Best Regards,

Brad
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RE: Registration marks missing

2011-02-14 Thread Harding, Dan
No problems here using Save As PDF to generate a PDF with crops.

FrameMaker 9.0p250 (unstructured) running under Windows 7 Professional (64-bit).

I'm running the SetPrint plugin which automatically makes Adobe PDF the default 
printer whenever FM is launched (not sure if that has anything at all to do 
with it; mentioned simply as another variable in the process).

Document is 8.5x11 trim with bleeds on facing edge only. I output onto an 11x17 
sheet with crop  registration marks.

File  Save As PDF

Select output location.

Settings:

PDF Job Options: Standard
View Generated PDF in Acrobat: checked
Generate PDF for review only: not checked
Registration Marks: Western
Page Size: Width: 11in Height: 17in
Page Range: All
Convert CMYK Colors to RGB: I get crops either way, although not having it 
wreaks havocs with screens, even though it's a black-only document.

Bookmarks: Generate PDF Bookmarks
(no other options selected)

Tags: Nothing selected

Links: Nothing selected

That's it. Works like a charm here. I've used this method when creating output 
files for our printer's prepress department for years now (although for actual 
press output I have a custom Press Quality profile that doesn't downsample any 
images). They dump the PDF into their imposition software and away we go.

Dan Harding
Technical Specialist  Web Developer
University of Illinois Tax School
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Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 8:12 AM
To: Jacob Schäffer; Brad Anderson
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Registration marks missing

Good points from all.

The bottom line though, is anyone on here getting registration marks to appear 
when using save as pdf instead of print to pdf? If so, can I get a step by step 
to see if I am missing something in my settings?

Thanks in advance.

Scott White
Manager - Content and Print Media
Belmont, NC - 704-398-5752


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Subject: SV: Registration marks missing

Scott,

This is likely a PDF /CropBox understanding issue, which mean that everything 
might be OK afterall. Unfortunately, the term CropBox might bring confusion 
although the concept is clear.

/CropBox defines the *visible* page size in a viewer. CropBox has effectively 
NOTHING to do with trimming according to crop marks - although the name says 
so.

/MediaBox defines the RAW print paper size, ie. when you print a letter
size on legal or A3 paper, you'll see the cut marks and use a hand-held 
knife to cut :-)

/ArtBox is of absolutely no use if you wish a reference to a fixed region (I've 
NEVER understood the significant value of the ArtBox EXCEPT when placing PDF as 
substitute for EPS -- in which case it's totally meaningless to apply crop 
marks (because they will become art))

/TrimBox, which defines the true cutting edges in real-world production anno 
2011.

In many cases ignorant designers and quite a few software packages sets both 
TrimBox and CropBox *wrong* and in some cases with reversed meaning -- adding 
huge to overall confusion.

Personally, I discarded the Save As PDF in Frame 9 a long time ago. I did 
that when I discovered it was based on more than 10 years old PostScript Level 
1 code stolen from antediluvian Unix versions of Framemaker.

So, printing to PDF from Frame is *still* ultimately the best bet *IF* and
*ONLY* if you work with RGB bitmap art (TIFF, BMP, JPG) and avoid spot colours 
like the plague.

If you use CMYK TIFF, don't go to print at all *unless* you can
*successfully* use Save As PDF *or* persuade your printer to accept 
pre-separated PostScript or PDF for print. And -- in this case -- don't say 
go without a final proof.

Unfortunately I can't offer a bullet-proof work-around. However, my Publi PDF 
software has made 

RE: Need Advice on Upgrade Strategies for FM and Acrobat

2011-02-14 Thread Orly Zimmerman
Hello Jasmine,
Our SME/Engineers are routinely given FM to draft documents.
We have set up a template for them to use (unstructured FM) and if they are so 
inclined to help, this usually works very nicely.
The template is firstly setup with the types of headings and some sort of 
general statement of how to populate the heading - eg - 1- unit name - 2- 
overview- 3 features  4- signal descriptions 5 theory of operation 6 
programming 7 limitations  - etc.
Secondly, the FM template is setup for ease of use.

One thing we do - is use para tag names that the engineers will understand  - 
for example - BodyBeforeList which is exactly what it implies. And while this 
is an unstructured file, the next para is defined as a Bullet tag - so that 
they actually can get a bulleted list (should they need a numbered list, then 
we would explain to them to change that tag to Numbered1  whereby Numbered is 
the next tag - and so on.

Now, if I were creating the template for FM Tech Writers, the tag name would be 
 BBL or b4list or some shortened version whereby I could use shortcut keys - to 
format, but, from experience, I can tell you that the engineers don't like to 
remember keyboard shortcuts. F8/F9 are hard enough to get them to remember.

Tables are already setup in the template. There was some special table we used 
that already had some cells straddled with different para tags in the relevant 
places, so that we put on the reference page - they can copy from the ref page.

If you use conditional text, the other - very important thing I would make sure 
they know and understand, is to always work with **all** conditions showing - 
and give them a lengthy explanation on how to use conditions.

I could go on and on...

In other words, if you set up the template for easy use, it makes their and 
your job easier.

As far as upgrades and Acrobat - you'll probably have to get the latest FM for 
the engineers -they most likely don't need the TCS. In the past, I think that 
single FM licenses came with Acrobat Distiller installed, then the SMEs can 
create PDFs which is basically all they need from Acrobat. I don't know how 
Adobe sells the packs now.

Best of Luck,
Orly.

Orly Zimmerman, Marvell Israel - Technical Communicator
Park Azorim, Kyriat Arie
Petah Tikva, 49527, Israel
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Re: Show/Hide, Condition indicators inconsistent

2011-02-14 Thread Bill Swallow
Apply book level conditional show/hide settings and make sure all files are
using them. You can always open one file and import conditional text
settings into all other files just to be certain they are all using the same
rules.

On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Brian Chan cha...@yahoo.com wrote:

 When I generate the book file, I get the following messages:

 C:\AB450\AB450_UGTOC.fm

 Show/Hide setting for ChapterNumber is inconsistent.
 Condition indicator for Comment is inconsistent.

 How do I fix the TOC so I won't see these error messages again?

 Thanks,
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OT: PDF Compare

2011-02-14 Thread Pat Christenson
I have a client who's not happy with the reports they're getting the  
doc compare function in Acrobat. Among other problems, It marks  
unchanged links/xrefs as changes and is limited to 250 page documents.


Does anyone have any experience running other PDF compare tools or  
know of any I can research for this client?


Because this is off-topic, you may want to respond to me and not the  
list.


Thanks.

Pat Christenson
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Re: OT: PDF Compare

2011-02-14 Thread Writer
Not completely OT. I'd like to see the responses, too.

Nadine

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 Subject: OT: PDF Compare
 To: Framers Users framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Date: Monday, February 14, 2011, 1:54 PM
 I have a client who's not happy with
 the reports they're getting the doc compare function in
 Acrobat. Among other problems, It marks unchanged
 links/xrefs as changes and is limited to 250 page
 documents.
 
 Does anyone have any experience running other PDF compare
 tools or know of any I can research for this client?
 
 Because this is off-topic, you may want to respond to me
 and not the list.
 
 Thanks.
 
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RE: OT: PDF Compare

2011-02-14 Thread Flato, Gillian
Since I use compare documents all the time, I'd like to see the responses as 
well.

Thank you,
 

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Subject: Re: OT: PDF Compare

Not completely OT. I'd like to see the responses, too.

Nadine

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 Subject: OT: PDF Compare
 To: Framers Users framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Date: Monday, February 14, 2011, 1:54 PM
 I have a client who's not happy with
 the reports they're getting the doc compare function in
 Acrobat. Among other problems, It marks unchanged
 links/xrefs as changes and is limited to 250 page
 documents.
 
 Does anyone have any experience running other PDF compare
 tools or know of any I can research for this client?
 
 Because this is off-topic, you may want to respond to me
 and not the list.
 
 Thanks.
 
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Function key for page break

2011-02-14 Thread Roy Lewis
Frame 8 on Win XP.
Can anyone tell me if there is a function key that brings up the page break 
dialog box?
The keyboard shortcut Esc s p b works well, I was just hoping for some way of 
getting to the dialog with  fewer keystrokes.
Thanks,
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Re: Function key for page break

2011-02-14 Thread Stuart Rogers

On 14/02/2011 3:44 PM, Roy Lewis wrote:

Frame 8 on Win XP.
Can anyone tell me if there is a function key that brings up the page
break dialog box?
The keyboard shortcut Esc s p b works well, I was just hoping for some
way of getting to the dialog with fewer keystrokes.
Thanks,
Roy Lewis



In FM7, it's on the Special Menu, so Alt + s, then b will do it.

YMMV.

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$volnum needs one numbering format in heading and different format in page number

2011-02-14 Thread LW White

I'm working with a template that uses $volnum in section headings, where it 
is capital Roman (I, I, III...). $volnum is also used in page numbers in the 
footer, where it needs to be Arabic (1, 2, 3...). I'm pretty sure it is not 
possible to assign the same variable different numbering formats within a 
document. The only workaround that comes to mind is to use another variable in 
the page numbers, such as $chapnum and format it Arabic. Then instruct users 
that they must always ensure $volnum and $chapnum are in sync. Is there any 
other approach I'm simply not thinking of?

Thanks,
Leigh
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Re: $volnum needs one numbering format in heading and different format in page number

2011-02-14 Thread Michael Lewis
I question the rationale behind such a design. If the same information is
represented differently in two different settings, you are surely going to
create confusion rather than communication.

Michael Lewis
Department of Linguistics
Macquarie University


 I'm working with a template that uses $volnum in section headings, where
it is capital Roman (I, I, III...). $volnum is also used in page numbers in
the footer, where it needs to be Arabic (1, 2, 3...). I'm pretty sure it is
not possible to assign the same variable different numbering formats within a
document. The only workaround that comes to mind is to use another variable in
the page numbers, such as $chapnum and format it Arabic. Then instruct users
that they must always ensure $volnum and $chapnum are in sync. Is there
any other approach I'm simply not thinking of?
 
 Thanks,
 Leigh



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RE: $volnum needs one numbering format in heading and different format in page number

2011-02-14 Thread LW White

Michael,

I completely agree. I would not like to have to represent the same information 
with two variables. However, if Frame does not allow for $volnum to have two 
different number formats, then my choices are limited. This template is not of 
my design and must adhere to the existing standard; otherwise, I would 
certainly advise the same numbering format in both the headings and the page 
numbers. But we work with what we have, not what we would wish.

Leigh

 From: mle...@brandle.com.au
 To: lwwhi...@hotmail.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 12:39:34 +1000
 Subject: Re: $volnum needs one numbering format in heading and different
 format in page number
 
 I question the rationale behind such a design. If the same information is
 represented differently in two different settings, you are surely going to
 create confusion rather than communication.
 
 Michael Lewis
 Department of Linguistics
 Macquarie University
 
 
  I'm working with a template that uses $volnum in section headings, where
 it is capital Roman (I, I, III...). $volnum is also used in page numbers in
 the footer, where it needs to be Arabic (1, 2, 3...). I'm pretty sure it is
 not possible to assign the same variable different numbering formats within a
 document. The only workaround that comes to mind is to use another variable in
 the page numbers, such as $chapnum and format it Arabic. Then instruct users
 that they must always ensure $volnum and $chapnum are in sync. Is there
 any other approach I'm simply not thinking of?
  
  Thanks,
  Leigh
 
 
 
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Installing FrameMaker 7.0, 7.1 or 7.2 on Windows 7

2011-02-14 Thread Brad Anderson
Framers,

Since I've seen a lot of questions about installing older versions of 
FrameMaker in Vista and Windows 7, I posted a "how-to" at both FrameUsers.com 
and my website (http://www.beyondprint.com).

Best Regards,

Brad


Registration marks missing

2011-02-14 Thread Harding, Dan
No problems here using "Save As PDF" to generate a PDF with crops.

FrameMaker 9.0p250 (unstructured) running under Windows 7 Professional (64-bit).

I'm running the SetPrint plugin which automatically makes Adobe PDF the default 
printer whenever FM is launched (not sure if that has anything at all to do 
with it; mentioned simply as another variable in the process).

Document is 8.5x11 trim with bleeds on facing edge only. I output onto an 11x17 
sheet with crop & registration marks.

File > Save As PDF

Select output location.

Settings:

PDF Job Options: Standard
View Generated PDF in Acrobat: checked
Generate PDF for review only: not checked
Registration Marks: Western
Page Size: Width: 11in Height: 17in
Page Range: All
Convert CMYK Colors to RGB: I get crops either way, although not having it 
wreaks havocs with screens, even though it's a black-only document.

Bookmarks: Generate PDF Bookmarks
(no other options selected)

Tags: Nothing selected

Links: Nothing selected

That's it. Works like a charm here. I've used this method when creating output 
files for our printer's prepress department for years now (although for actual 
press output I have a custom Press Quality profile that doesn't downsample any 
images). They dump the PDF into their imposition software and away we go.

Dan Harding
Technical Specialist & Web Developer
University of Illinois Tax School
339 Mumford Hall
1301 West Gregory Drive
Urbana, IL 61801
217-333-0935


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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of White, Scott
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 8:12 AM
To: Jacob Sch?ffer; Brad Anderson
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Registration marks missing

Good points from all.

The bottom line though, is anyone on here getting registration marks to appear 
when using save as pdf instead of print to pdf? If so, can I get a step by step 
to see if I am missing something in my settings?

Thanks in advance.

Scott White
Manager - Content and Print Media
Belmont, NC - 704-398-5752


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Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 5:16 PM
To: White, Scott; 'Brad Anderson'
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: SV: Registration marks missing

Scott,

This is likely a PDF /CropBox "understanding" issue, which mean that everything 
might be OK afterall. Unfortunately, the term "CropBox" might bring confusion 
although the concept is clear.

/CropBox defines the *visible* page size in a viewer. CropBox has effectively 
NOTHING to do with "trimming" according to crop marks - although the name says 
so.

/MediaBox defines the RAW "print" paper size, ie. when you print a "letter"
size on "legal" or "A3" paper, you'll see the cut marks and use a hand-held 
knife to "cut" :-)

/ArtBox is of absolutely no use if you wish a reference to a fixed region (I've 
NEVER understood the significant value of the ArtBox EXCEPT when placing PDF as 
substitute for EPS -- in which case it's totally meaningless to apply crop 
marks (because they will become "art"))

/TrimBox, which defines the true "cutting" edges in real-world production anno 
2011.

In many cases ignorant designers and quite a few software packages sets both 
TrimBox and CropBox *wrong* and in some cases with reversed meaning -- adding 
huge to overall confusion.

Personally, I discarded the "Save As PDF" in Frame 9 a long time ago. I did 
that when I discovered it was based on more than 10 years old PostScript Level 
1 code stolen from antediluvian Unix versions of Framemaker.

So, printing to PDF from Frame is *still* ultimately the best bet *IF* and
*ONLY* if you work with RGB bitmap art (TIFF, BMP, JPG) and avoid spot colours 
like the plague.

If you use CMYK TIFF, don't go to print at all *unless* you can
*successfully* use "Save As PDF" *or* persuade your printer to accept 
pre-separated PostScript or PDF for print. And -- in this case -- don't say 
"go" without a final proof.

Unfortunately I can't offer a bullet-proof work-around. 

Need Advice on Upgrade Strategies for FM and Acrobat

2011-02-14 Thread Orly Zimmerman
Hello Jasmine,
Our SME/Engineers are routinely given FM to draft documents.
We have set up a template for them to use (unstructured FM) and if they are so 
inclined to help, this usually works very nicely.
The template is firstly setup with the types of headings and some sort of 
general statement of how to populate the heading - eg - 1- unit name - 2- 
overview- 3 features  4- signal descriptions 5 theory of operation 6 
programming 7 limitations  - etc.
Secondly, the FM template is setup for ease of use.

One thing we do - is use para tag names that the engineers will understand  - 
for example - BodyBeforeList which is exactly what it implies. And while this 
is an unstructured file, the next para is defined as a Bullet tag - so that 
they actually can get a bulleted list (should they need a numbered list, then 
we would explain to them to change that tag to Numbered1  whereby Numbered is 
the next tag - and so on.

Now, if I were creating the template for FM Tech Writers, the tag name would be 
 BBL or b4list or some shortened version whereby I could use shortcut keys - to 
format, but, from experience, I can tell you that the engineers don't like to 
remember keyboard shortcuts. F8/F9 are hard enough to get them to remember.

Tables are already setup in the template. There was some special table we used 
that already had some cells straddled with different para tags in the relevant 
places, so that we put on the reference page - they can copy from the ref page.

If you use conditional text, the other - very important thing I would make sure 
they know and understand, is to always work with **all** conditions showing - 
and give them a lengthy explanation on how to use conditions.

I could go on and on...

In other words, if you set up the template for easy use, it makes their and 
your job easier.

As far as upgrades and Acrobat - you'll probably have to get the latest FM for 
the engineers -they most likely don't need the TCS. In the past, I think that 
single FM licenses came with Acrobat Distiller installed, then the SMEs can 
create PDFs which is basically all they need from Acrobat. I don't know how 
Adobe sells the packs now.

Best of Luck,
Orly.

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Show/Hide, Condition indicators inconsistent

2011-02-14 Thread Bill Swallow
Apply book level conditional show/hide settings and make sure all files are
using them. You can always open one file and import conditional text
settings into all other files just to be certain they are all using the same
rules.

On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Brian Chan  wrote:

> When I generate the book file, I get the following messages:
>
> C:\AB450\AB450_UGTOC.fm
>
> Show/Hide setting for ChapterNumber is inconsistent.
> Condition indicator for Comment is inconsistent.
>
> How do I fix the TOC so I won't see these error messages again?
>
> Thanks,
> Brian
>

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OT: PDF Compare

2011-02-14 Thread Pat Christenson
I have a client who's not happy with the reports they're getting the  
doc compare function in Acrobat. Among other problems, It marks  
unchanged links/xrefs as changes and is limited to 250 page documents.

Does anyone have any experience running other PDF compare tools or  
know of any I can research for this client?

Because this is off-topic, you may want to respond to me and not the  
list.

Thanks.

Pat Christenson


OT: PDF Compare

2011-02-14 Thread Writer
Not completely OT. I'd like to see the responses, too.

Nadine

--- On Mon, 2/14/11, Pat Christenson  wrote:

> From: Pat Christenson 
> Subject: OT: PDF Compare
> To: "Framers Users" 
> Date: Monday, February 14, 2011, 1:54 PM
> I have a client who's not happy with
> the reports they're getting the doc compare function in
> Acrobat. Among other problems, It marks unchanged
> links/xrefs as changes and is limited to 250 page
> documents.
> 
> Does anyone have any experience running other PDF compare
> tools or know of any I can research for this client?
> 
> Because this is off-topic, you may want to respond to me
> and not the list.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Pat Christenson
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OT: PDF Compare

2011-02-14 Thread Flato, Gillian
Since I use compare documents all the time, I'd like to see the responses as 
well.

Thank you,
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Not completely OT. I'd like to see the responses, too.

Nadine

--- On Mon, 2/14/11, Pat Christenson  wrote:

> From: Pat Christenson 
> Subject: OT: PDF Compare
> To: "Framers Users" 
> Date: Monday, February 14, 2011, 1:54 PM
> I have a client who's not happy with
> the reports they're getting the doc compare function in
> Acrobat. Among other problems, It marks unchanged
> links/xrefs as changes and is limited to 250 page
> documents.
> 
> Does anyone have any experience running other PDF compare
> tools or know of any I can research for this client?
> 
> Because this is off-topic, you may want to respond to me
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Function key for page break

2011-02-14 Thread Roy Lewis
Frame 8 on Win XP.
Can anyone tell me if there is a function key that brings up the page break 
dialog box?
The keyboard shortcut Esc s p b works well, I was just hoping for some way of 
getting to the dialog with? fewer keystrokes.
Thanks,
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Function key for page break

2011-02-14 Thread Stuart Rogers
On 14/02/2011 3:44 PM, Roy Lewis wrote:
> Frame 8 on Win XP.
> Can anyone tell me if there is a function key that brings up the page
> break dialog box?
> The keyboard shortcut Esc s p b works well, I was just hoping for some
> way of getting to the dialog with fewer keystrokes.
> Thanks,
> Roy Lewis


In FM7, it's on the Special Menu, so Alt + s, then b will do it.

YMMV.

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<$volnum> needs one numbering format in heading and different format in page number

2011-02-14 Thread LW White

I'm working with a template that uses <$volnum> in section headings, where it 
is capital Roman (I, I, III...). <$volnum> is also used in page numbers in the 
footer, where it needs to be Arabic (1, 2, 3...). I'm pretty sure it is not 
possible to assign the same variable different numbering formats within a 
document. The only workaround that comes to mind is to use another variable in 
the page numbers, such as <$chapnum> and format it Arabic. Then instruct users 
that they must always ensure <$volnum> and <$chapnum> are in sync. Is there any 
other approach I'm simply not thinking of?

Thanks,
Leigh

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<$volnum> needs one numbering format in heading and different format in page number

2011-02-14 Thread LW White

Michael,

I completely agree. I would not like to have to represent the same information 
with two variables. However, if Frame does not allow for <$volnum> to have two 
different number formats, then my choices are limited. This template is not of 
my design and must adhere to the existing standard; otherwise, I would 
certainly advise the same numbering format in both the headings and the page 
numbers. But we work with what we have, not what we would wish.

Leigh

> From: mlewis at brandle.com.au
> To: lwwhite5 at hotmail.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 12:39:34 +1000
> Subject: Re: <$volnum> needs one numbering format in heading and different
> format in page number
> 
> I question the rationale behind such a design. If the same information is
> represented differently in two different settings, you are surely going to
> create confusion rather than communication.
> 
> Michael Lewis
> Department of Linguistics
> Macquarie University
> 
> 
> > I'm working with a template that uses <$volnum> in section headings, where
> it is capital Roman (I, I, III...). <$volnum> is also used in page numbers in
> the footer, where it needs to be Arabic (1, 2, 3...). I'm pretty sure it is
> not possible to assign the same variable different numbering formats within a
> document. The only workaround that comes to mind is to use another variable in
> the page numbers, such as <$chapnum> and format it Arabic. Then instruct users
> that they must always ensure <$volnum> and <$chapnum> are in sync. Is there
> any other approach I'm simply not thinking of?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Leigh
> 
> 
> 

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