Re: bugs in FM 9's conditional build expressions

2011-05-26 Thread Joseph Lorenzini
Hi Baruch,

Here is the information you requested.

Operating System:

Windows 7 Enterprise
4 GB Memory
64-bit
Intel Core 2 Duo CPU

FrameMaker:

Version: 9
Patch: 255

Sincerely,
Joseph Lorenzini

On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 2:51 AM, Baruch Brodersen bar...@technitext.comwrote:

 Hi Joseph,

 Please provide Frame version, patches, and operating system details.
 Best,
 Baruch


 On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:04 PM, Joseph Lorenzini jalo...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi all,

 Recently my company has decided to release several different editions of
 the product we sell. This has forced me to create several conditional tags.
 The complexity of the conditional tags and how its applied in the document
 makes the use of build expressions highly desirable. However, it seems like
 this functionality is kinda buggy.

 Has anyone noticed the following:

 -you cannot import build expressions from one document to another. that's
 a killer. Is there some way around this aside from hand editing mif files?
 -deleting unused build expressions requires me to save the FM file as a
 MIF file, open the MIF file in  a text editor, delete the conditional build
 expressions, and then save the MIF back to FM format. Is it honestly the
 case that Adobe didn't provide a delete button and this is the only way to
 get rid of expressions?
 -when i use a build expression, my condition indicators don't seem to
 work. Anyone have an idea why?

 Sincerely,
 Joseph Lorenzini

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ANN: Adobe ExtendScript eSeminar Today

2011-05-26 Thread Rick Quatro
Hello Framers,

Just a reminder of my Adobe ExtendScript eSeminar today at 1:00 pm Eastern
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RE: Adobe ExtendScript eSeminar Today

2011-05-26 Thread Rick Quatro
Here is a shortened link for the seminar:

http://goo.gl/GhSSb


Subject: ANN: Adobe ExtendScript eSeminar Today

Hello Framers,

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RE: Adobe ExtendScript eSeminar Today

2011-05-26 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Hi, Rick.

Unfortunately, I will not be free at that time ... do you know if it will be 
taped recorded for later viewing in any way?

Z


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Just a reminder of my Adobe ExtendScript eSeminar today at 1:00 pm Eastern 
Time. If you want to see FrameMaker 10's new ExtendScript implementation, this 
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Thank you very much.

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RE: Adobe ExtendScript eSeminar Today

2011-05-26 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Syed,

Yes, the seminar will be recorded and made available for later viewing.

Rick

Hi, Rick.

Unfortunately, I will not be free at that time ... do you know if it will be
taped recorded for later viewing in any way?

Z


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RE: Adobe ExtendScript eSeminar Today

2011-05-26 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Fantastic ... thanks much!

Z

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Hi Syed,

Yes, the seminar will be recorded and made available for later viewing.

Rick

Hi, Rick.

Unfortunately, I will not be free at that time ... do you know if it will be 
taped recorded for later viewing in any way?

Z


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RE: Adobe ExtendScript eSeminar Today

2011-05-26 Thread Anthony Davey
Me too. Six pm British Summer Time, I'll be travelling home from the office.

Regards,
Ant

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Hi, Rick.

Unfortunately, I will not be free at that time ... do you know if it will be 
taped recorded for later viewing in any way?

Z


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Just a reminder of my Adobe ExtendScript eSeminar today at 1:00 pm Eastern 
Time. If you want to see FrameMaker 10's new ExtendScript implementation, this 
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Thank you very much.

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Index Entry Formatting

2011-05-26 Thread Brad Anderson
Framers,

I'm trying to get an index to format entries in a special manner.   I can get a 
page number to bold in a list of entries without a problem.   However, I also 
want to bold the entry itself.   When I do this, I get 2 separate entries in 
the index. 

For example, here's my desired output:

Adams, Geoffrey 3, 5

Here's how FrameMaker formats the index:

Adams, Geoffrey 5
Adams, Geoffrey 3


My entries look as follows:

Adams, Geoffrey[Adams, Jeff]Bold

BoldAdams, Geoffrey[Adams, Jeff]/BoldBold



I've tried several variations of these.  I can get the page number entry to 
bold using the first method.  However, if I try to bold the entry itself, it'll 
end up as 2 entries in the index from the other entries that are not bolded.   
I can make the bolding with a FrameScript, just thought I'd check to see if 
someone's got this to work.

Thanks,

Brad



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RE: Index Entry Formatting

2011-05-26 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
It's not clear from my e-mail client if you're trying to bold the index entry, 
and just 1 of the page refs or both of them. I'd suspect that the marker text 
would have to be identical to consolidate the entries and bold them, but I have 
no idea how you would bold the page refs within the marker - I'd be more 
inclined to attack it from the IX ref page itself.


From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Brad Anderson
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 12:03 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Index Entry Formatting

Framers,

I'm trying to get an index to format entries in a special manner.   I can get a 
page number to bold in a list of entries without a problem.   However, I also 
want to bold the entry itself.   When I do this, I get 2 separate entries in 
the index.

For example, here's my desired output:

Adams, Geoffrey 3, 5

Here's how FrameMaker formats the index:

Adams, Geoffrey 5
Adams, Geoffrey 3


My entries look as follows:

Adams, Geoffrey[Adams, Jeff]Bold

BoldAdams, Geoffrey[Adams, Jeff]/BoldBold



I've tried several variations of these.  I can get the page number entry to 
bold using the first method.  However, if I try to bold the entry itself, it'll 
end up as 2 entries in the index from the other entries that are not bolded.   
I can make the bolding with a FrameScript, just thought I'd check to see if 
someone's got this to work.

Thanks,

Brad



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Index Troubles: No Openable Nongenerated Files?

2011-05-26 Thread Karen Robbins

Hello Framers,

I cannot generate an index from my book file. The book error log 
reads Couldn't update this book, because it contains no openable 
nongenerated files. It doesn't name a document file that caused the 
problem, only the book file itself.


I am certain that the 13 files in my book are openable and 
nongenerated, as I've been working on them for days. In the Update 
Book dialog, I uncheck the first four boxes because I am not yet at 
the final pagination stage--this is just a test index to catch marker 
errors and so forth and updating would be pointless. I check the 
generate Table of Contents, Lists, and Indexes box. A default index 
file name appears in the Generate: box. I have tried making a new 
book more than once, with the same result.


I *can* generate a stand-alone index from each of the individual files.

I'm using FM 9 on Windows 7 through Parallels 6. The problem existed 
with p237; updated to p250 but same result. Apparently I can't update 
any further, as I get a cannot overwrite file error in the Adobe 
Updater.


These same files gave me no trouble on a different machine with the 
same configurations several days ago. Any idea what might have gone 
wrong?


Thanks for your wisdom,

Karen Robbins
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RE: Index Troubles: No Openable Nongenerated Files?

2011-05-26 Thread Combs, Richard
Karen Robbins wrote:
 
 I cannot generate an index from my book file. The book error log
 reads Couldn't update this book, because it contains no openable
 nongenerated files. It doesn't name a document file that caused the
 problem, only the book file itself.
 
 I am certain that the 13 files in my book are openable and
 nongenerated, as I've been working on them for days. snip

So, did you try opening them all and then generating the index? (From the book 
window, hold the Shift key and go to File  Open All Files in Book.) 

Do you have unresolved cross-references, missing fonts, etc.? To 
update/generate, FM has to open and scan all the files in the background. It 
sounds like some error condition prevents it from doing this in the background 
(without being able to prompt you for what to do about the error condition). 

HTH!
Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
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RE: Index Troubles: No Openable Nongenerated Files?

2011-05-26 Thread Karen Robbins

Richard,

Yay! Opening all the files at once worked. You hit it on the head, 
something is causing FrameMaker to not be able to open all the files 
in the background. Where would I start looking?


thanks for the workaround,
Karen

At 4:12 PM -0700 5/26/11, Combs, Richard wrote:

So, did you try opening them all and then generating the index? 
(From the book window, hold the Shift key and go to File  Open All 
Files in Book.)


Do you have unresolved cross-references, missing fonts, etc.? To 
update/generate, FM has to open and scan all the files in the 
background. It sounds like some error condition prevents it from 
doing this in the background (without being able to prompt you for 
what to do about the error condition).


HTH!
Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
--
rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
303-903-6372
--
Karen Robbins wrote:


 I cannot generate an index from my book file. The book error log
 reads Couldn't update this book, because it contains no openable
 nongenerated files. It doesn't name a document file that caused the
 problem, only the book file itself.

 I am certain that the 13 files in my book are openable and
 nongenerated, as I've been working on them for days. snip




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RE: Index Troubles: No Openable Nongenerated Files?

2011-05-26 Thread Combs, Richard
Karen Robbins wrote:
 
 Richard,
 
 Yay! Opening all the files at once worked. You hit it on the head,
 something is causing FrameMaker to not be able to open all the files
 in the background. Where would I start looking?

When you open a file with an error condition, FM should display a dialog box 
informing you of the problem. For instance, if the file contains unresolved 
cross-references, a dialog tells you so and directs you to the manual/help for 
information on locating them. If the file uses unavailable fonts, FM tells you 
so and asks if you want to reformat it using available fonts. 

If you're not seeing any such error reporting dialogs when you open the files, 
I'm not sure what's going on. I know you can suppress them programmatically 
(e.g., via FrameScript), but I didn't think there was any way to turn them off 
for manual file opening via the interface. 

Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
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Re: Index Entry Formatting

2011-05-26 Thread Grant Hogarth

Try the following:
Adams, Geoffrey[Adams, Jeff]Bold

BoldAdams, Geoffrey/Bold[Adams, Jeff]Bold


Jeff Coatsworth wrote:
It's not clear from my e-mail client if you're trying to bold the 
index entry, and just 1 of the page refs or both of them. I'd suspect 
that the marker text would have to be identical to consolidate the 
entries and bold them, but I have no idea how you would bold the page 
refs within the marker - I'd be more inclined to attack it from the IX 
ref page itself.



*From:* framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Brad Anderson

*Sent:* Thursday, May 26, 2011 12:03 PM
*To:* framers@lists.frameusers.com
*Subject:* Index Entry Formatting

Framers,

I'm trying to get an index to format entries in a special manner.   I 
can get a page number to bold in a list of entries without a problem. 
  However, I also want to bold the entry itself.   When I do this, I 
get 2 separate entries in the index.


For example, here's my desired output:

*Adams, Geoffrey* 3, *5*

Here's how FrameMaker formats the index:

*Adams, Geoffrey* 5
Adams, Geoffrey* 3*
*
*

My entries look as follows:

Adams, Geoffrey[Adams, Jeff]Bold

BoldAdams, Geoffrey[Adams, Jeff]/BoldBold



I've tried several variations of these.  I can get the page number 
entry to bold using the first method.  However, if I try to bold the 
entry itself, it'll end up as 2 entries in the index from the other 
entries that are not bolded.   I can make the bolding with a 
FrameScript, just thought I'd check to see if someone's got this to work.


Thanks,

Brad




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RE: Index Troubles: No Openable Nongenerated Files?

2011-05-26 Thread Karen Robbins
Every file generates a missing font message! But if that were the 
cause of the index problem, wouldn't Frame stop 
background-file-opening at the first flawed file it encountered in 
the book? Instead, Frame goes through several files before the error 
message appears and the operation stops. And missing fonts aren't 
cited in the book error report.


I have painstakingly migrated from Type 1 fonts to Open Type fonts, 
and equally carefully installed the new fonts on several machines. We 
have long dealt with false missing font errors. Of course I'll make a 
final pass for font irregularities, but there has never been one 
foolproof cure to that problem.


Frame used to provide useful error messages--condition problem, 
missing fonts, color inconsistencies, etc. Now I'm lucky if I get 
book is inconsistent. :-(


Hey, if I can get an index, I'll do whatever it takes. :-)

Thanks,
Karen

At 7:00 PM -0700 5/26/11, Combs, Richard wrote:


When you open a file with an error condition, FM should display a 
dialog box informing you of the problem. For instance, if the file 
contains unresolved cross-references, a dialog tells you so and 
directs you to the manual/help for information on locating them. If 
the file uses unavailable fonts, FM tells you so and asks if you 
want to reformat it using available fonts.


If you're not seeing any such error reporting dialogs when you open 
the files, I'm not sure what's going on. I know you can suppress 
them programmatically (e.g., via FrameScript), but I didn't think 
there was any way to turn them off for manual file opening via the 
interface.


Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
--
rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
303-903-6372
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Karen Robbins wrote:


 Richard,

 Yay! Opening all the files at once worked. You hit it on the head,
 something is causing FrameMaker to not be able to open all the files
 in the background. Where would I start looking?


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RE: Index Troubles: No Openable Nongenerated Files?

2011-05-26 Thread Combs, Richard
Karen Robbins wrote:
 
 I have painstakingly migrated from Type 1 fonts to Open Type fonts,
 and equally carefully installed the new fonts on several machines. We
 have long dealt with false missing font errors. Of course I'll make a
 final pass for font irregularities, but there has never been one
 foolproof cure to that problem.

Yeah, old fonts can hide in unexpected, hard-to-root-out places -- like in the 
default paragraphs for a table format that you're not even using. 

There's a permanent solution if you're certain that: 

-- All the fonts you really want are there. 
-- Nothing visible is using anything else. 
-- Or at least, the fonts FM is substituting for the missing ones (listed in 
the Console window after you open a file) are acceptable replacements. 

But you may want to make backups first in case you're wrong. :-) 

1) Close all your files. 
2) Go to File  Preferences  General, turn off Remember Missing Font Names, 
and click Set. 
3) Open a file with missing fonts. When prompted if you want to permanently 
replace the missing fonts with available ones, click OK. 
4) Save the file, making the font substitution permanent. 
5) Repeat for each file with missing fonts. 

This permanently replaces each missing font with the one FM chose to 
substitute. You can even control what gets substituted by editing the [Fonts] 
section of your maker.ini file. It's not exactly intuitive or simple (getting 
the font names right is the problem), but if you're interested, check out the 
Customizing Frame Products PDF in the Online Manuals folder inside your FM 
installation directory. 


Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
--
rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
303-903-6372
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Index Troubles: No Openable Nongenerated Files?

2011-05-26 Thread Combs, Richard
Karen Robbins wrote:

> I have painstakingly migrated from Type 1 fonts to Open Type fonts,
> and equally carefully installed the new fonts on several machines. We
> have long dealt with false missing font errors. Of course I'll make a
> final pass for font irregularities, but there has never been one
> foolproof cure to that problem.

Yeah, old fonts can hide in unexpected, hard-to-root-out places -- like in the 
default paragraphs for a table format that you're not even using. 

There's a permanent solution if you're certain that: 

-- All the fonts you really want are there. 
-- Nothing visible is using anything else. 
-- Or at least, the fonts FM is substituting for the missing ones (listed in 
the Console window after you open a file) are acceptable replacements. 

But you may want to make backups first in case you're wrong. :-) 

1) Close all your files. 
2) Go to File > Preferences > General, turn off Remember Missing Font Names, 
and click Set. 
3) Open a file with missing fonts. When prompted if you want to permanently 
replace the missing fonts with available ones, click OK. 
4) Save the file, making the font substitution permanent. 
5) Repeat for each file with missing fonts. 

This permanently replaces each missing font with the one FM chose to 
substitute. You can even control what gets substituted by editing the [Fonts] 
section of your maker.ini file. It's not exactly intuitive or simple (getting 
the font names right is the problem), but if you're interested, check out the 
Customizing Frame Products PDF in the Online Manuals folder inside your FM 
installation directory. 


Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
--
rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
303-903-6372
--