Re: Can not import PDF properties to book files
Hi Klaus, You wrote: I have a strange problem with a book containing 3 files. This happens on both FM-9 and FM-8 (not yet tested with FM-10). File 1 has incorrect PDF settings (wierd book marks) File 2 has correct PDF settings File 3 has incorrect PDF settings All files including the book file have gone through a MIF wash. All files are on local disk. 1) When generating a PDF (via print or via Save as PDF) the settings have to be entered into the set-up dialog at every generation. To avoid this i want to set the properties in files 1 and 3 accordingly. 2) Book file and file 2 is open. In the book file I select all files and import the Document Properties from file 2. = settings in file 1 and 3 are still wrong. 3) All files and the book file are open. In file 1 i import Document Properties from file 2. = settings in file 1 are still wrong. I have put the files on my server: http://daube.ch/z_temp/pdf- problem9.zip (FM-9), http://daube.ch/z_temp/pdf-problem8.zip (FM-8) and http://daube.ch/z_temp/pdf-problem0.zip (FM-9, new files). I do not understand this... I did not check your files, but you indicate Document Properties as the category being imported, yet also mention weird bookmarks. To import the complete PDF Setup, including bookmarks, both Paragraph Formats and Document Properties have to be selected. Shlomo Perets MicroType, http://www.microtype.com FrameMaker/TCS training consulting * FM-to-Acrobat TimeSavers/Assistants ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
AW: Fm 9 + 10: export list of unresolved graphic insets (akamissing graphics)?
Hi Yves, If you use ‚Book Transfer‘ (www.toolboxforme.com or www.finalyser.com for FM10) you can get a list of all referenced files. By running the second step of Book Transfer you can also archive all of your referenced files. - Maike Von: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] Im Auftrag von Yves Barbion Gesendet: Donnerstag, 16. Juni 2011 12:45 An: framers@lists.frameusers.com Betreff: Re: Fm 9 + 10: export list of unresolved graphic insets (akamissing graphics)? or generate a list of Unresolved Graphic Insets, similar to Unresolved Text Insets, or is this a feature request for Fm 11? ;-) Y. On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Yves Barbion yves.barb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi group In FrameMaker 9 and 10, you can see a list of missing graphics (unresolved graphic inset or unresolved image) in the Insets Pod. Is there also a way (or, if necessary, a Framescript) to export or save this list? Thanks -- Yves Barbion www.scripto.nu -- Yves Barbion www.scripto.nu ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Bullet size and bold text
Frame 9, Windows XP In a bullet list, if I apply a boldface character format to all of the text in a given paragraph, the bullet for that paragraph is also bold, so it's larger. I don't want that to happen. Currently I use a workaround, where I type the paragraph with a trailing space character at the end, and make all but the trailing space character bold. This prevents the bullet from being bold. This seems like a clunky and unnecessary workaround. Who of us wants an errant space character hanging out at the end of a paragraph? I have tried specifically selecting just the text and not selecting the pilcrow. Doesn't matter. Any ideas on another way to keep my bullet un-bold? Thank you, Tim CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information contained in this message may be privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, or responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, any review, forwarding, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication or any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately, and delete it and all attachments from your computer and network. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Can not import PDF properties to book files
I don't understand your problem statement or why you're trying to do it this way. I took your Frame 8 files and did this: Open the book File Open All Files in Book In the book file, Control+P Make sure the Adobe PDF printer driver is selected Select the Generate Acrobat Data check box Click PDF Setup Click the Bookmarks tab Set the bookmarks the way I wanted them File Save All Files in Book Closed everything, reopened, the bookmarks are the same. I have no idea what you're trying to do but if you try that it might work. On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Klaus Daube fr...@daube.ch wrote: Friends of FrameMaker I have a strange problem with a book containing 3 files. This happens on both FM-9 and FM-8 (not yet tested with FM-10). File 1 has incorrect PDF settings (wierd book marks) File 2 has correct PDF settings File 3 has incorrect PDF settings All files including the book file have gone through a MIF wash. All files are on local disk. 1) When generating a PDF (via print or via Save as PDF) the settings have to be entered into the set-up dialog at every generation. To avoid this i want to set the properties in files 1 and 3 accordingly. 2) Book file and file 2 is open. In the book file I select all files and import the Document Properties from file 2. = settings in file 1 and 3 are still wrong. 3) All files and the book file are open. In file 1 i import Document Properties from file 2. = settings in file 1 are still wrong. I have put the files on my server: http://daube.ch/z_temp/pdf- problem9.zip (FM-9), http://daube.ch/z_temp/pdf-problem8.zip (FM-8) and http://daube.ch/z_temp/pdf-problem0.zip (FM-9, new files). I do not understand this... Klaus ~~ Docu + Design Daube; Schäracher 11; CH-8053 Zürich Technical documentation consultancy; On-line and paper F: +41-44-422 86 25 E: d...@daube.ch W: www.daube.ch ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as dr_go...@pobox.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dr_gonzo%40pobox.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Steve Johnson, dr_go...@pobox.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Characters changing when moving from FM7 to FM9
Hello, I raised this topic previously and have given it some more thought. The problem is that for certain symbol fonts (Dixieland, Geographic Symbols, Symbol Prop BT among others) the character displays incorrectly when a FM7 file is saved as FM9. Saving as FM7 mif gives the same result. With some experimenting, I have found a fairly easy way to determine which character change will take place. When replacing the hex code in the FM7 mif file to that of the corresponding character, it then opens correctly in FM9. The result is consistent over fonts, so if all characters in the ascii table were mapped, it would be possible to find a universal hex replacement procedure for all these fonts. Someone knowledgeable in hex could possibly see a system in the replacements, and understand why this problem at all takes place. The problem fonts may originate from Corel, but I don´t really remember where I got them from. I have mapped those 25 characters I so far have found in my FM7 files that behave incorrect. My question is therefore if someone can write a script that saves a FM7 file to mif, does a multiple find and replace for the hex codes in the mif, and then saves to FM7 again. When this new FM7 file is opened in FM9, the characters will display correctly. I can send the character file off-list. Thanks, Ragnar Hanas Uddevalla Hospital, Sweden ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Can not import PDF properties to book files
I think what you are seeing is that the PDF Setup properties update only in an additive way when you import them from another file (or when you set them on the book level and expect them to reiple down to the individual component files). If any file has extraneous tags selected in the PDF Bookmark properties, those tags will remain in that property set until/unless you manually delete them and save the file. When you generate a PDF, FrameMaker will pass bookmark data to Acrobat for all the tag names that are set in the book file's PDF Setup, *plus* data for any additional tags in a specific chapter if that chapter's file-level PDF Setup. If you import the relevant formatting properties from another file, FrameMaker will add to the bookmark list any tagds that are selected in the template file but not in the target, but *will not delete* andy tags that are selected in the target but not the template. This behavior has been this way for a while--at least since FrameMaker 6 and Acrobat 6, which was the first time I came up against it--and was apparently done as a feature (although it is completely undocumented). At my previous employer I actually used this feature to improve the usability of the bookmarks in a handful of our documents that had atypical organizations. The book-level PDF Setup include the bookmarks to be picked up from *every* chaptre, but a couple of chapters had additional, specialized tags identified in their book-level PDF Setup. Once I had this set up, it remained through all book update and import formats operations because the special tags don't get deleted. The annoying thing is that under some set of circumstances I've never identified (because it is pretty rare), FrameMaker spontaneously adds a bunch of errant tags to the PDF Setup bookmarks list for some specific file. Unless you consistently inspect the bookmarks after generating your PDFs, you'll never catch this, and unless you know the cause you'll spend many hours trying to get the bookmarks to behave (or deleting the errant ones from the PDF each itme you publish). -Fred Ridder From: fr...@daube.ch To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 22:21:36 +0200 Subject: Can not import PDF properties to book files Friends of FrameMaker I have a strange problem with a book containing 3 files. This happens on both FM-9 and FM-8 (not yet tested with FM-10). File 1 has incorrect PDF settings (wierd book marks) File 2 has correct PDF settings File 3 has incorrect PDF settings All files including the book file have gone through a MIF wash. All files are on local disk. 1) When generating a PDF (via print or via Save as PDF) the settings have to be entered into the set-up dialog at every generation. To avoid this i want to set the properties in files 1 and 3 accordingly. 2) Book file and file 2 is open. In the book file I select all files and import the Document Properties from file 2. = settings in file 1 and 3 are still wrong. 3) All files and the book file are open. In file 1 i import Document Properties from file 2. = settings in file 1 are still wrong. I have put the files on my server: http://daube.ch/z_temp/pdf- problem9.zip (FM-9), http://daube.ch/z_temp/pdf-problem8.zip (FM-8) and http://daube.ch/z_temp/pdf-problem0.zip (FM-9, new files). I do not understand this... Klaus ~~ Docu + Design Daube; Schäracher 11; CH-8053 Zürich Technical documentation consultancy; On-line and paper F: +41-44-422 86 25 E: d...@daube.ch W: www.daube.ch ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as docu...@hotmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/docudoc%40hotmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Bullet size and bold text
Tim Pann wrote: In a bullet list, if I apply a boldface character format to all of the text in a given paragraph, the bullet for that paragraph is also bold, so it's larger. I don't want that to happen. Currently I use a workaround, where I type the paragraph with a trailing space character at the end, and make all but the trailing space character bold. This prevents the bullet from being bold. This seems like a clunky and unnecessary workaround. Who of us wants an errant space character hanging out at the end of a paragraph? I have tried specifically selecting just the text and not selecting the pilcrow. Doesn't matter. For better or for worse, this is the way FrameMaker has always worked and I doubt very much that Adobe will change this behavior at this late date (although I have said that before about features that they did, in fact, fix so that automated processes based on the historical behavior broke...). Basically, if there is any kind of character formatting (either a character tag or manually applied formatting) applied to the character that immediately precedes the pilcrow, the pilcrow takes on that same formatting. This occurs whether the formatting is applied to only one character or every character in the paragraph. But if all the characters in the paragraph have the same character formatting applied, the formatting will become a *paragraph override*, so that the default paragraph font format itself is modified, at which point any autonumbering characters that are set to the default paragraph font also assume the formatting. So how to avoid this behavior? You've already discovered the simple solution: Insert an unformatted space before the pilcrow. You seem to see this as some kind of evil, but I don't understand the basis for your characterization of this as an errant space. It has absolutely no effect on the appearance of the document except for the effect you need it to produce (keeping the default appearance of the bullet desipte having applied an override character format to the whole paragraph). The other approach is to define your autonumber (bullet) formats so that they specify a particular named character format that corresponds to the bullet appearance you want. The template set I currently use has character tags called zBulletLarge, zBulletMedium, zBulletMiniscule (sic), and zBulletTiny that only get used in the autonumbering that is defined for the various bulleted styles (the z prefix puts them at the bottom of the format listing so that they are less likely to be used directly by writers). Once those defined formats are part of the bullet characteristics, it simply does not matter what overrides you apply to the paragraph formatting because the bullet is disconnected from the default paragraph font. -Fred Ridder ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Can not import PDF properties to book files
On 19 Jun 2011 at 16:22, Shlomo Perets wrote: To import the complete PDF Setup, including bookmarks, both Paragraph Formats and Document Properties have to be selected. On 19 Jun 2011 at 14:39, Fred Ridder wrote: I think what you are seeing is that the PDF Setup properties update only in an additive way when you import them from another file (or when you set them on the book level and expect them to ripple down to the individual component files). Shlomo and Fred, Thank You very much for these insights. I did not imagine neither effect, although the additive method is common to all imports in FM (otherwise the 'Clean Import' plug-in would not be necessary... And Shlomos remark seems pursuable for me: in the bookmarks the ¶-formats have a role... Even after so many years of using FM i still have holes in the knowledge about it! Thank You Klaus ~~ Docu + Design Daube; Schäracher 11; CH-8053 Zürich Technical documentation consultancy; On-line and paper F: +41-44-422 86 25 E: d...@daube.ch W: www.daube.ch ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Bullet size and bold text
Tim Pann wrote: This seems like a clunky and unnecessary workaround. Who of us wants an errant space character hanging out at the end of a paragraph? [raises hand] I do! I do! In fact, I'd find it hard to _not_ type a space after a period, regardless of where in a paragraph it occurs. Muscle memory is pretty important in typing. Why would you train yourself to not hit the spacebar after a period in some circumstances? What possible benefit does it provide? As Fred noted, this errant (??) space doesn't affect line spacing or anything else. Why does it bother you? In fact, it has a couple of advantages I can think of off the top of my head. 1) As Fred noted, when a char format (or ad hoc formatting) is applied all the way up to the pilcrow, it modifies the paragraph and creates an override. This is either a bug or the FM development team's subtle way of suggesting that all paragraphs should have a space at the end. 2) The reason all paragraphs should have a space at the end is so that when you merge two paragraphs, you're not missing a necessary space. Fred's suggestion of applying a char format as part of the autonumber format is an excellent one. All my autonumbered pgf formats have their own char format (and mine, too, begin with z), even though some of those char formats set everything to As Is. If that ever needs to be changed in the future, I can effect the change just by changing the char format and updating all. Also, you might want to think about why you're applying a char format to all the text in a paragraph. I've done that only very rarely and only as a workaround for an unusual layout problem. If you need to do this more than once in a blue moon, create a new pgf format instead. Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-903-6372 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Can not import PDF properties to book files
Hi Klaus, You wrote: >I have a strange problem with a book containing 3 files. This happens on >both FM-9 and FM-8 (not yet tested with FM-10). > >File 1 has incorrect PDF settings (wierd book marks) >File 2 has correct PDF settings >File 3 has incorrect PDF settings > >All files including the book file have gone through a MIF wash. All files >are on local disk. > >1) When generating a PDF (via print or via Save as PDF) the settings have >to be entered into the set-up dialog at every generation. >To avoid this i want to set the properties in files 1 and 3 accordingly. > >2) Book file and file 2 is open. In the book file I select all files and >import the Document Properties from file 2. >=> settings in file 1 and 3 are still wrong. > >3) All files and the book file are open. In file 1 i import Document >Properties from file 2. >=> settings in file 1 are still wrong. > >I have put the files on my server: http://daube.ch/z_temp/pdf- >problem9.zip (FM-9), http://daube.ch/z_temp/pdf-problem8.zip (FM-8) and >http://daube.ch/z_temp/pdf-problem0.zip (FM-9, new files). > >I do not understand this... I did not check your files, but you indicate Document Properties as the category being imported, yet also mention weird bookmarks. To import the complete PDF Setup, including bookmarks, both Paragraph Formats and Document Properties have to be selected. Shlomo Perets MicroType, http://www.microtype.com FrameMaker/TCS training & consulting * FM-to-Acrobat TimeSavers/Assistants
Can not import PDF properties to book files
I think what you are seeing is that the PDF Setup properties update only in an additive way when you import them from another file (or when you set them on the book level and expect them to reiple down to the individual component files). If any file has extraneous tags selected in the PDF Bookmark properties, those tags will remain in that property set until/unless you manually delete them and save the file. When you generate a PDF, FrameMaker will pass bookmark data to Acrobat for all the tag names that are set in the book file's PDF Setup, *plus* data for any additional tags in a specific chapter if that chapter's file-level PDF Setup. If you import the relevant formatting properties from another file, FrameMaker will add to the bookmark list any tagds that are selected in the "template" file but not in the target, but *will not delete* andy tags that are selected in the target but not the "template". This behavior has been this way for a while--at least since FrameMaker 6 and Acrobat 6, which was the first time I came up against it--and was apparently done as a feature (although it is completely undocumented). At my previous employer I actually used this feature to improve the usability of the bookmarks in a handful of our documents that had atypical organizations. The book-level PDF Setup include the bookmarks to be picked up from *every* chaptre, but a couple of chapters had additional, specialized tags identified in their book-level PDF Setup. Once I had this set up, it remained through all book update and import formats operations because the special tags don't get deleted. The annoying thing is that under some set of circumstances I've never identified (because it is pretty rare), FrameMaker spontaneously adds a bunch of errant tags to the PDF Setup bookmarks list for some specific file. Unless you consistently inspect the bookmarks after generating your PDFs, you'll never catch this, and unless you know the cause you'll spend many hours trying to get the bookmarks to behave (or deleting the errant ones from the PDF each itme you publish). -Fred Ridder > From: frame at daube.ch > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 22:21:36 +0200 > Subject: Can not import PDF properties to book files > > Friends of FrameMaker > > I have a strange problem with a book containing 3 files. This happens on > both FM-9 and FM-8 (not yet tested with FM-10). > > File 1 has incorrect PDF settings (wierd book marks) > File 2 has correct PDF settings > File 3 has incorrect PDF settings > > All files including the book file have gone through a MIF wash. All files > are on local disk. > > 1) When generating a PDF (via print or via Save as PDF) the settings have > to be entered into the set-up dialog at every generation. > To avoid this i want to set the properties in files 1 and 3 accordingly. > > 2) Book file and file 2 is open. In the book file I select all files and > import the Document Properties from file 2. > => settings in file 1 and 3 are still wrong. > > 3) All files and the book file are open. In file 1 i import Document > Properties from file 2. > => settings in file 1 are still wrong. > > I have put the files on my server: http://daube.ch/z_temp/pdf- > problem9.zip (FM-9), http://daube.ch/z_temp/pdf-problem8.zip (FM-8) and > http://daube.ch/z_temp/pdf-problem0.zip (FM-9, new files). > > I do not understand this... > > Klaus > ~~ > Docu + Design Daube; Sch?racher 11; CH-8053 Z?rich > Technical documentation & consultancy; On-line and paper > F: +41-44-422 86 25 E: ddd at daube.ch W: www.daube.ch > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as DocuDoc at hotmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/docudoc%40hotmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20110619/56920b0d/attachment.html>
Bullet size and bold text
Tim Pann wrote: > In a bullet list, if I apply a boldface character format to all of the > text in a given paragraph, the bullet for that paragraph is also bold, > so it's larger. I don't want that to happen. Currently I use a > workaround, where I type the paragraph with a trailing space character > at the end, and make all but the trailing space character bold. This > prevents the bullet from being bold. > > This seems like a clunky and unnecessary workaround. Who of us wants an > errant space character hanging out at the end of a paragraph? > > I have tried specifically selecting just the text and not selecting the > pilcrow. Doesn't matter. For better or for worse, this is the way FrameMaker has always worked and I doubt very much that Adobe will change this behavior at this late date (although I have said that before about features that they did, in fact, "fix" so that automated processes based on the historical behavior broke...). Basically, if there is any kind of character formatting (either a character tag or manually applied formatting) applied to the character that immediately precedes the pilcrow, the pilcrow takes on that same formatting. This occurs whether the formatting is applied to only one character or every character in the paragraph. But if all the characters in the paragraph have the same character formatting applied, the formatting will become a *paragraph override*, so that the default paragraph font format itself is modified, at which point any autonumbering characters that are set to the default paragraph font also assume the formatting. So how to avoid this behavior? You've already discovered the simple solution: Insert an unformatted space before the pilcrow. You seem to see this as some kind of evil, but I don't understand the basis for your characterization of this as an "errant" space. It has absolutely no effect on the appearance of the document except for the effect you need it to produce (keeping the default appearance of the bullet desipte having applied an override character format to the whole paragraph). The other approach is to define your autonumber (bullet) formats so that they specify a particular named character format that corresponds to the bullet appearance you want. The template set I currently use has character tags called zBulletLarge, zBulletMedium, zBulletMiniscule (sic), and zBulletTiny that only get used in the autonumbering that is defined for the various bulleted styles (the "z" prefix puts them at the bottom of the format listing so that they are less likely to be used directly by writers). Once those defined formats are part of the bullet characteristics, it simply does not matter what overrides you apply to the paragraph formatting because the bullet is disconnected from the default paragraph font. -Fred Ridder -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20110619/9f5e3c6b/attachment.html>
Can not import PDF properties to book files
On 19 Jun 2011 at 16:22, Shlomo Perets wrote: > To import the complete PDF Setup, including bookmarks, both Paragraph > Formats and Document Properties have to be selected. On 19 Jun 2011 at 14:39, Fred Ridder wrote: > I think what you are seeing is that the PDF Setup properties?update > only in an additive way when you import them from another file (or > when you set them on the book level and expect them to ripple down to > the individual component files). Shlomo and Fred, Thank You very much for these insights. I did not imagine neither effect, although the additive method is common to all imports in FM (otherwise the 'Clean Import' plug-in would not be necessary... And Shlomos remark seems pursuable for me: in the bookmarks the ?-formats have a role... Even after so many years of using FM i still have holes in the knowledge about it! Thank You Klaus ~~ Docu + Design Daube; Sch?racher 11; CH-8053 Z?rich Technical documentation & consultancy; On-line and paper F: +41-44-422 86 25 E: ddd at daube.ch W: www.daube.ch
Bullet size and bold text
Tim Pann wrote: > This seems like a clunky and unnecessary workaround. Who of us wants an > errant space character hanging out at the end of a paragraph? [raises hand] I do! I do! In fact, I'd find it hard to _not_ type a space after a period, regardless of where in a paragraph it occurs. Muscle memory is pretty important in typing. Why would you train yourself to not hit the spacebar after a period in some circumstances? What possible benefit does it provide? As Fred noted, this "errant" (??) space doesn't affect line spacing or anything else. Why does it bother you? In fact, it has a couple of advantages I can think of off the top of my head. 1) As Fred noted, when a char format (or ad hoc formatting) is applied all the way up to the pilcrow, it modifies the paragraph and creates an override. This is either a bug or the FM development team's subtle way of suggesting that all paragraphs should have a space at the end. 2) The reason all paragraphs should have a space at the end is so that when you merge two paragraphs, you're not missing a necessary space. Fred's suggestion of applying a char format as part of the autonumber format is an excellent one. All my autonumbered pgf formats have their own char format (and mine, too, begin with "z"), even though some of those char formats set everything to "As Is." If that ever needs to be changed in the future, I can effect the change just by changing the char format and updating all. Also, you might want to think about why you're applying a char format to all the text in a paragraph. I've done that only very rarely and only as a workaround for an unusual layout problem. If you need to do this more than once in a blue moon, create a new pgf format instead. Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-903-6372 --
Acrobat X Woes
Hi all, I upgraded Acrobat Pro v.9 to Acrobat X on my Win 7 64-bit machine and decided to test the built-in text editing tool. After editing a line of text in a PDF, I clicked the Save button. This actually was the last action I could perform - Acrobat threw the following message: "Loading System Fonts" and then stopped responding. I repeated the same procedure 3 times and each time Acrobat got stuck. I haven't experienced this problem when I was using Acrobat 9. Have you ever encountered this problem? Kind regards, Roman -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20110619/172e5237/attachment.html>
