Re: script or software for batch updating of files to version 10

2011-12-02 Thread Michael Müller-Hillebrand
There was an »ExtendScript of the Week« that might be a good starting point:

http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/2011/10/extendscript-of-the-week-create-a-upgraded-copy-of-book.html

- Michael


 Bjørn Smalbro wrote:
 I have a client who wishes to update some thousand framemaker files and 
 framemaker book files from version 7 to 10. Would anybody know a method for 
 batch conversion? I suppose it can be done using Extend Script, but is one 
 also able to handle the error messages which are bound to come, like missing 
 fonts or pictures? I am not too keen on Framescript even though I am certain 
 it works allright.
 
 regards
 Bjørn
 

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RE: Deleting backup files

2011-12-02 Thread Bernard Aschwanden (Publishing Smarter)
Before you read further, realize that the consequence of using a batch command 
to delete files can impact a lot of what you have on
a computer. The samples that were previously provided, as well as the update I 
suggest, can dramatically change the landscape. Using
this stuff incorrectly, or in the wrong place is a bit like using a backhoe to 
move a kids swing set. Sure, it works, and if you do
it well, it works with no negative issues, but if you do it wrong the whole 
thing crashes down around you.

SO, DON'T USE THIS CODE/BATCH FILE UNLESS YOU REALLY THINK THROUGH WHAT YOU ARE 
DOING.

Now that the Danger Will Robinson moment has passed, let's move on.

I'd suggest one more quick change to the code...

The line in step 5 reads:
del /s *backup*  *.log  *.tps  *.tpdf

I would suggest changing it to:
del /s /q *.backup.fm *.log *.tps *.tpdf

The update to *.backup.fm ensures you don't accidently delete a file named, for 
example, create_backups.fm which you don't want to
remove, but create_backups.backup.fm WOULD be deleted. The addition of /q 
runs quiet and won't prompt you for anything, it will
just wipe files.

Also, I have a tiny file that I created that does basically the same thing. 
First, I create a text file, put in the code I need,
then rename that file to .bat instead of .txt

Then, and do this carefully, I place the .bat file into a folder (using Windows 
Explorer) that is the root for the backup files you
need to wipe. Then, again in Explorer, dbl click the .bat. So I may create the 
batch, put it into E:\mydocs\FM\DITA_User_Guide\ and
that has 5 subfolders, and 10,000 topics, including a lot of backup files, log 
files, temp files, temp PDF. Then, in that folder, I
double click. About 30 seconds later all 10,000 files are reviewed and what I 
don't need is wiped.

BE REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY careful with this. If you 
accidently have *.fm in your .bat file, OR you put it into a
map to a server, or some folder where you didn't mean to do this, you can wipe 
a LOT more than you planned. The *.log file (as an
example) is used in a lot more places than just Frame and PDF generation. You 
would NOT want to do this on your C: drive either.

Lastly, this method works way faster than the Windows Explorer 'find' feature 
as it will just wipe the files with any of the four
extensions. To do it via Explorer may mean you take extra time to find each 
type, search, select, delete. The *.bat is super fast,
but can have dangerous consequences.

Hope that helps out.

Bernard


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From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Syed Zaeem Hosain
(syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Sent: November-30-11 23:41
To: Theresa de Valence; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Deleting backup files

1. Open a DOS command prompt window.

2. Navigate to the directory of choice. If the directory name is long, or has 
spaces in it, enclose it in double quotes (like this
cd  \tree  name\folder  name\  for example).

4. Make a copy of everything before deleting the backups (in case something 
goes wrong!). I do it like this in the directory where I
am:

mkdir  BACKFILES
copy  *.*  BACKFILES\*.*  /v

5. Then delete the FrameMaker backup and log files you want to (this is what I 
use for example):

del   *backup*  *.log  *.tps  *.tpdf

 Be careful above! Do NOT have any spaces beween the '*' characters and 
the other characters.

By the way, I keep the above del line in a text file called 
cleanframe.bat (in my DOS command path somewhere) so that I
just type cleanframe rather than take a risk of accidentally putting in 
spaces in the wrong place and deleting the wrong files!

6. After you are comfortable that you still have what you need, you remove the 
other files *if you want*:

rmdir  /s  /q  BACKFILES

Again, be careful of what you are removing!

Ultimately, having a complete backup (in case of recovery needs) is a good a 
idea before you start any of this - just to be safe.

Good luck,

Z

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Theresa de Valence
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 3:11 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Deleting backup files

Could someone please give me a command for deleting backup files in Windows 
(Windows 7)?

This is for the end of the project when I am no longer opening all the working 
files.

I'd like the command to work in the current directory and all subdirectories.

I vaguely remember how to do this in DOS, but I don't know how to navigate 
directories which are longer than 8 chars!

Many thanks,
Theresa
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RE: Stop number break in table

2011-12-02 Thread Timothy DeWees
Thanks Roger! It will be tomorrow before I get back in those documents, but 
you’ve armed me with a lot of “weapons” to try. I feel comfortable now that I 
can get the number not to break, but still maintain adequate cell margin.

 

Tim

 

From: Roger Shuttleworth [mailto:rshuttlewo...@avbasesystems.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 7:44 AM
To: Timothy DeWees
Subject: Re: Stop number break in table

 

Hello Tim

A couple of things come to mind:

1.  Check your para format settings, on the Table Cell tab in the paragraph 
designer. There may be padding added there that you can eliminate.
2.  Check the table format settings for padding inside the cells. These are 
*added* to any padding referred to in #1.
3.  Check other para format settings, e.g. right tabs, indents, etc.
4.  Since you say this doc is converted from Word, check for hidden 
characters at the end of lines. Word usually add a narrow hidden character 
immediately before the paragraph mark (pilcrow). To test for this, check that 
Vew  Text Symbols is on, then use your right-arrow key to move a step at a 
time to the end of the line. The easiest way to get rid of these hidden 
characters is to save as MIF and then reopen and save as FM. It's a good idea 
to do that anyway.

Hope this helps!

Roger

Roger Shuttleworth
Technical Documentation
AV-BASE Systems Inc.
1000 Air Ontario Drive, Suite 200
London, Ontario
N5V 3S4
Tel. 519 691-0919 ext. 330

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From: Timothy DeWees [mailto:tdew...@charter.net]
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 05:37:30 -0500
Subject: Stop number break in table

I am in the process of converting a Word Document to FrameMaker. I’ve got 
everything working correctly except for one detail. The document has a number 
of tables with a narrow column on the right margin for revision numbers. For 
numbers 1-9, it looks fine. But when I get to a two digit number (the document 
is currently on revision 10), the “10” insists on breaking across two lines. 
I’ve tried changing fonts and reducing cell margins to where it looks like 
there is plenty of space in the column to display the “10” on one line. But it 
still insists on breaking it across two lines. Thanks in advance for any advice 
you can give me!

 

Tim DeWees

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RE: Stop number break in table

2011-12-02 Thread Timothy DeWees
More excellent suggestions, thanks!

 

From: Sarah O'Keefe [mailto:oke...@scriptorium.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 7:47 AM
To: Timothy DeWees
Subject: Re: Stop number break in table

 

Create a unique paragraph and change the Table settings for that paragraph
in the paragraph designer (last tab on the right)...

 

Sarah

 

On Dec 1, 2011, at 4:37 AM, Timothy DeWees wrote:





 

Thanks, that does work. But one problem is that reduces the cell insets for
all cells in the table and causes text in other cells to run too close
together. That was an issue in the original Word document that I was tasked
to fix in the frame document. The whole document now looks great in frame, I
just can't get this one number to render correctly in the right column.

 

Tim

 

From: Matt Sullivan [mailto:sullivanma...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 7:00 PM
To: Timothy DeWees
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Stop number break in table

 

Check the cell insets in the Table Designer. Reduce them and you should be
ok

 

-Matt

@mattrsullivan

On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 2:37 AM, Timothy DeWees tdew...@charter.net wrote:

I am in the process of converting a Word Document to FrameMaker. I've got
everything working correctly except for one detail. The document has a
number of tables with a narrow column on the right margin for revision
numbers. For numbers 1-9, it looks fine. But when I get to a two digit
number (the document is currently on revision 10), the 10 insists on
breaking across two lines. I've tried changing fonts and reducing cell
margins to where it looks like there is plenty of space in the column to
display the 10 on one line. But it still insists on breaking it across two
lines. Thanks in advance for any advice you can give me!

 

Tim DeWees


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Re: Keystroke commands for selecting tags in Save As PDF?

2011-12-02 Thread Theresa de Valence

On 11/30/2011 10:30 PM, Combs, Richard wrote:

Double-clicking works in both FM7.2 and FM9 (just confirmed both). I find it hard 
to believe that it wouldn't work in FM8. Maybe you're double-clicking too slowly? 
(You can test/adjust double-click speed in Control Panel  Mouse.)


Richard, I've just tested it and it works (blush!). Do you know I 
thought I tried every combination of Control+ Alt+ -- none of which worked.


The answer I liked best was Penelope's which was Shift-Click to move 
everything out of Selected so that one could bring back only what was 
relevant.


Thanks for all the advice,
Theresa


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RE: Stop number break in table

2011-12-02 Thread Timothy DeWees
Works like a champ guys, thanks.  At first it didn't appear to work, but I
forgot that the default setting for table margin in the paragraph designer
is Cell margin *plus* what you put in the box. I had to change that to
custom. Since I normally establish cell margins for a table in the table
designer rather than the paragraph designer, I wasn't as familiar with that
option. But that's a great trick because I work with tables a lot and that
will come in handy in the future.

 

From: Matt Sullivan [mailto:sullivanma...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 10:57 AM
To: Rick Quatro
Cc: Timothy DeWees; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Stop number break in table

 

Yep, Stuart and Rick are correct...just create a Paragraph Formant for those
numbers that sets the Table Cell properties appropriately and independently
of the Table Format

 

-Matt

@mattrsullivan

On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 8:20 AM, Rick Quatro r...@rickquatro.com wrote:

You can reduce the individual cell margins via the Table Cell tab of the
Paragraph Designer.

 

Rick Quatro

Carmen Publishing Inc.

585-659-8267

r...@frameexpert.com

http://www.frameexpert.com

 

 

 

From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Timothy DeWees
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 4:37 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: FW: Stop number break in table

 

 

Thanks, that does work. But one problem is that reduces the cell insets for
all cells in the table and causes text in other cells to run too close
together. That was an issue in the original Word document that I was tasked
to fix in the frame document. The whole document now looks great in frame, I
just can't get this one number to render correctly in the right column. 

 

Tim

 

From: Matt Sullivan [mailto:sullivanma...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 7:00 PM
To: Timothy DeWees
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Stop number break in table

 

Check the cell insets in the Table Designer. Reduce them and you should be
ok

 

-Matt

@mattrsullivan

On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 2:37 AM, Timothy DeWees tdew...@charter.net wrote:

I am in the process of converting a Word Document to FrameMaker. I've got
everything working correctly except for one detail. The document has a
number of tables with a narrow column on the right margin for revision
numbers. For numbers 1-9, it looks fine. But when I get to a two digit
number (the document is currently on revision 10), the 10 insists on
breaking across two lines. I've tried changing fonts and reducing cell
margins to where it looks like there is plenty of space in the column to
display the 10 on one line. But it still insists on breaking it across two
lines. Thanks in advance for any advice you can give me!

 

Tim DeWees


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RE: framers Digest, Vol 74, Issue 1

2011-12-02 Thread Gay Alson
What Matt and some others have mentioned is correct: The Table Cell tab
in Paragraph Designer allows for individual cell margins and it even
accepts negative numbers, so you can adjust the margins for just that
one cell instead of affecting the entire table, as you do in Table
Designer.

~~Gay
= 

From: Matt Sullivan [mailto:sullivanma...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 7:00 PM
To: Timothy DeWees
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Stop number break in table

 

Check the cell insets in the Table Designer. Reduce them and you should
be
ok

 

-Matt

@mattrsullivan

On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 2:37 AM, Timothy DeWees tdew...@charter.net
wrote:

I am in the process of converting a Word Document to FrameMaker. I've
got
everything working correctly except for one detail. The document has a
number of tables with a narrow column on the right margin for revision
numbers. For numbers 1-9, it looks fine. But when I get to a two digit
number (the document is currently on revision 10), the 10 insists on
breaking across two lines. I've tried changing fonts and reducing cell
margins to where it looks like there is plenty of space in the column to
display the 10 on one line. But it still insists on breaking it across
two
lines. Thanks in advance for any advice you can give me!

 

Tim DeWees


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Re: FM 10 books

2011-12-02 Thread Grant Hogarth
AFAIK, there are *no* FM10-specific books out (yet).
Grant
==
Corinne Kenney wrote:
 Are there any decent (or any at all) FM 10 books out there? We can't use 
 online resources. If anyone knows of FM 10 books, please recommend them. I 
 think I've seen the suggestion that FM 9 Classroom in a Book is a good way to 
 go.
  
 Any suggestions are appreciated!
  
 Corinne Kenney 

 
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re-using paragraphs in Unstructured FrameMaker

2011-12-02 Thread ray . lloyd
Are there any tricks to pull in a paragraph (e.g. a note) into several 
documents for re-use beside using Text Insets? I'd like to put all these 
re-usable paragraphs in one document and then pull specific paragraphs 
into other documents -- similar to what you can do with the conref 
mechanism in DITA XML.
Any ideas welcome.
Ray


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RE: re-using paragraphs in Unstructured FrameMaker

2011-12-02 Thread Combs, Richard
ray.ll...@agfa.com wrote:
 
 Are there any tricks to pull in a paragraph (e.g. a note) into several
 documents for re-use beside using Text Insets? I'd like to put all
 these re-usable paragraphs in one document and then pull specific
 paragraphs into other documents -- similar to what you can do with the
 conref mechanism in DITA XML.
 Any ideas welcome.
 Ray

Text insets are the way to go. What may not be obvious is that you can put all 
the text insets into the same document. A text inset is a complete flow. But a 
single FM file can contain any number of flows, each with its own name. When 
you use File  Import  File to import (by reference), you specify the file 
from which to import, and if it contains multiple flows, you're prompted to 
choose the flow you want. 

Create a new doc to serve as the container for your text inset flows. To create 
new flows, add disconnected pages (Special  Add Disconnected Pages) -- as many 
as you want at a time. 

Because it's disconnected, each new page is a new flow (notice the end-of-flow 
symbol on each page). But they all have the default flow tag, A. You have to 
give each a unique and meaningful Flow Tag name so you'll know which flow to 
pick when importing to your destination doc(s). To do this, select a text 
frame, right-click, and select Object Properties. In the Customize Text Frame 
dialog, set Flow Tag to the name you want. 

Put each paragraph (or set of paragraphs, or table, ...) that you want to 
re-use into its own flow / text frame and you're ready go. 

HTH!

Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
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Re: re-using paragraphs in Unstructured FrameMaker

2011-12-02 Thread Roger Shuttleworth
Hello Ray

Text insets are your only option.

But since you ask about storing all the reusable pieces in one document, you 
can do that. Add each reusable piece to a separate flow in the one document 
(using a meaningful name for each flow). Then when you insert the text inset 
into your container doc, specify which flow you want to insert. Remember that 
you have to insert the whole flow, so you must store each piece in its own 
flow. I believe you can have up to about 255 flows in a single doc.

Hope this helps.
Roger

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Technical Documentation
AV-BASE Systems Inc.
1000 Air Ontario Drive, Suite 200
London, Ontario
N5V 3S4
Tel. 519 691-0919 ext. 330
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From: ray.ll...@agfa.com
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Fri, 02 Dec 2011 03:52:29 -0500
Subject: re-using paragraphs in Unstructured FrameMaker

Are there any tricks to pull in a paragraph  (e.g. a note) into several 
documents for re-use beside using Text Insets?  I'd like to put all these 
re-usable paragraphs in one document and then  pull specific paragraphs into 
other documents -- similar to what you can  do with the conref mechanism in 
DITA XML.  
Any ideas welcome.  
Ray

  
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RE: Stop number break in table

2011-12-02 Thread Fred Ridder

Yes the dimension you enter in the Cell Margin boxes in the Paragraph Designer 
gets added to the default marginn from the table format. But you can enter a 
*negative* value in the Cell Margin box to reduce the default margin even if 
the mathematical operation is an addition. It works just the way it should.
 
-Fred Ridder
 



From: tdew...@charter.net
To: sullivanma...@gmail.com; r...@rickquatro.com
Subject: RE: Stop number break in table
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 11:48:20 -0600
CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com






Works like a champ guys, thanks.  At first it didn’t appear to work, but I 
forgot that the default setting for table margin in the paragraph designer is 
“Cell margin *plus*” what you put in the box. I had to change that to custom. 
Since I normally establish cell margins for a table in the table designer 
rather than the paragraph designer, I wasn’t as familiar with that option. But 
that’s a great trick because I work with tables a lot and that will come in 
handy in the future.
 
From: Matt Sullivan [mailto:sullivanma...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 10:57 AM
To: Rick Quatro
Cc: Timothy DeWees; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Stop number break in table
 
Yep, Stuart and Rick are correct...just create a Paragraph Formant for those 
numbers that sets the Table Cell properties appropriately and independently of 
the Table Format

 

-Matt

@mattrsullivan

On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 8:20 AM, Rick Quatro r...@rickquatro.com wrote:


You can reduce the individual cell margins via the Table Cell tab of the 
Paragraph Designer.
 
Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-659-8267
r...@frameexpert.com
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From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Timothy DeWees
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 4:37 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: FW: Stop number break in table


 
 
Thanks, that does work. But one problem is that reduces the cell insets for all 
cells in the table and causes text in other cells to run too close together. 
That was an issue in the original Word document that I was tasked to fix in the 
frame document. The whole document now looks great in frame, I just can’t get 
this one number to render correctly in the right column. 
 
Tim
 
From: Matt Sullivan [mailto:sullivanma...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 7:00 PM
To: Timothy DeWees
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Stop number break in table
 
Check the cell insets in the Table Designer. Reduce them and you should be ok

 

-Matt

@mattrsullivan

On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 2:37 AM, Timothy DeWees tdew...@charter.net wrote:


I am in the process of converting a Word Document to FrameMaker. I’ve got 
everything working correctly except for one detail. The document has a number 
of tables with a narrow column on the right margin for revision numbers. For 
numbers 1-9, it looks fine. But when I get to a two digit number (the document 
is currently on revision 10), the “10” insists on breaking across two lines. 
I’ve tried changing fonts and reducing cell margins to where it looks like 
there is plenty of space in the column to display the “10” on one line. But it 
still insists on breaking it across two lines. Thanks in advance for any advice 
you can give me!
 
Tim DeWees

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script or software for batch updating of files to version 10

2011-12-02 Thread Michael Müller-Hillebrand
There was an ?ExtendScript of the Week? that might be a good starting point:

http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/2011/10/extendscript-of-the-week-create-a-upgraded-copy-of-book.html

- Michael


> Bj?rn Smalbro wrote:
>> I have a client who wishes to update some thousand framemaker files and 
>> framemaker book files from version 7 to 10. Would anybody know a method for 
>> batch conversion? I suppose it can be done using Extend Script, but is one 
>> also able to handle the error messages which are bound to come, like missing 
>> fonts or pictures? I am not too keen on Framescript even though I am certain 
>> it works allright.
>> 
>> regards
>> Bj?rn
> 

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Deleting backup files

2011-12-02 Thread Bernard Aschwanden (Publishing Smarter)
Before you read further, realize that the consequence of using a batch command 
to delete files can impact a lot of what you have on
a computer. The samples that were previously provided, as well as the update I 
suggest, can dramatically change the landscape. Using
this stuff incorrectly, or in the wrong place is a bit like using a backhoe to 
move a kids swing set. Sure, it works, and if you do
it well, it works with no negative issues, but if you do it wrong the whole 
thing crashes down around you.

SO, DON'T USE THIS CODE/BATCH FILE UNLESS YOU REALLY THINK THROUGH WHAT YOU ARE 
DOING.

Now that the "Danger Will Robinson" moment has passed, let's move on.

I'd suggest one more quick change to the code...

The line in step 5 reads:
del /s *backup*  *.log  *.tps  *.tpdf

I would suggest changing it to:
del /s /q *.backup.fm *.log *.tps *.tpdf

The update to *.backup.fm ensures you don't accidently delete a file named, for 
example, "create_backups.fm" which you don't want to
remove, but "create_backups.backup.fm" WOULD be deleted. The addition of /q 
runs "quiet" and won't prompt you for anything, it will
just wipe files.

Also, I have a tiny file that I created that does basically the same thing. 
First, I create a text file, put in the code I need,
then rename that file to .bat instead of .txt

Then, and do this carefully, I place the .bat file into a folder (using Windows 
Explorer) that is the root for the backup files you
need to wipe. Then, again in Explorer, dbl click the .bat. So I may create the 
batch, put it into E:\mydocs\FM\DITA_User_Guide\ and
that has 5 subfolders, and 10,000 topics, including a lot of backup files, log 
files, temp files, temp PDF. Then, in that folder, I
double click. About 30 seconds later all 10,000 files are reviewed and what I 
don't need is wiped.

BE REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY careful with this. If you 
accidently have *.fm in your .bat file, OR you put it into a
map to a server, or some folder where you didn't mean to do this, you can wipe 
a LOT more than you planned. The *.log file (as an
example) is used in a lot more places than just Frame and PDF generation. You 
would NOT want to do this on your C: drive either.

Lastly, this method works way faster than the Windows Explorer 'find' feature 
as it will just wipe the files with any of the four
extensions. To do it via Explorer may mean you take extra time to find each 
type, search, select, delete. The *.bat is super fast,
but can have dangerous consequences.

Hope that helps out.

Bernard


Bernard Aschwanden
Publishing Smarter
www.publishingsmarter.com

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-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Syed Zaeem Hosain
(Syed.Hosain at aeris.net)
Sent: November-30-11 23:41
To: Theresa de Valence; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Deleting backup files

1. Open a DOS command prompt window.

2. Navigate to the directory of choice. If the directory name is long, or has 
spaces in it, enclose it in double quotes (like this
"cd  \tree  name\folder  name\"  for example).

4. Make a copy of everything before deleting the backups (in case something 
goes wrong!). I do it like this in the directory where I
am:

mkdir  BACKFILES
copy  *.*  BACKFILES\*.*  /v

5. Then delete the FrameMaker backup and log files you want to (this is what I 
use for example):

del   *backup*  *.log  *.tps  *.tpdf

 Be careful above! Do NOT have any spaces beween the '*' characters and 
the other characters.

By the way, I keep the above del line in a text file called 
"cleanframe.bat" (in my DOS command path somewhere) so that I
just type "cleanframe" rather than take a risk of accidentally putting in 
spaces in the wrong place and deleting the wrong files!

6. After you are comfortable that you still have what you need, you remove the 
other files *if you want*:

rmdir  /s  /q  BACKFILES

Again, be careful of what you are removing!

Ultimately, having a complete backup (in case of recovery needs) is a good a 
idea before you start any of this - just to be safe.

Good luck,

Z

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From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Theresa de Valence
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 3:11 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Deleting backup files

Could someone please give me a command for deleting backup files in Windows 
(Windows 7)?

This is for the end of the project when I am no longer opening all the working 
files.

I'd like the command to work in the current directory and all subdirectories.

I vaguely remember how to do this in DOS, but I don't know how to navigate 
directories which are longer than 8 chars!

Many thanks,
Theresa
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re-using paragraphs in Unstructured FrameMaker

2011-12-02 Thread ray.ll...@agfa.com
Are there any tricks to pull in a paragraph (e.g. a note) into several 
documents for re-use beside using Text Insets? I'd like to put all these 
re-usable paragraphs in one document and then pull specific paragraphs 
into other documents -- similar to what you can do with the conref 
mechanism in DITA XML.
Any ideas welcome.
Ray


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re-using paragraphs in Unstructured FrameMaker

2011-12-02 Thread Combs, Richard
ray.lloyd at agfa.com wrote:

> Are there any tricks to pull in a paragraph (e.g. a note) into several
> documents for re-use beside using Text Insets? I'd like to put all
> these re-usable paragraphs in one document and then pull specific
> paragraphs into other documents -- similar to what you can do with the
> conref mechanism in DITA XML.
> Any ideas welcome.
> Ray

Text insets are the way to go. What may not be obvious is that you can put all 
the text insets into the same document. A text inset is a complete flow. But a 
single FM file can contain any number of flows, each with its own name. When 
you use File > Import > File to import (by reference), you specify the file 
from which to import, and if it contains multiple flows, you're prompted to 
choose the flow you want. 

Create a new doc to serve as the container for your text inset flows. To create 
new flows, add disconnected pages (Special > Add Disconnected Pages) -- as many 
as you want at a time. 

Because it's disconnected, each new page is a new flow (notice the end-of-flow 
symbol on each page). But they all have the default flow tag, "A." You have to 
give each a unique and meaningful Flow Tag name so you'll know which flow to 
pick when importing to your destination doc(s). To do this, select a text 
frame, right-click, and select Object Properties. In the Customize Text Frame 
dialog, set Flow Tag to the name you want. 

Put each paragraph (or set of paragraphs, or table, ...) that you want to 
re-use into its own flow / text frame and you're ready go. 

HTH!

Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
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re-using paragraphs in Unstructured FrameMaker

2011-12-02 Thread Roger Shuttleworth
Hello Ray

Text insets are your only option.

But since you ask about storing all the reusable pieces in one document, you 
can do that. Add each reusable piece to a separate flow in the one document 
(using a meaningful name for each flow). Then when you insert the text inset 
into your container doc, specify which flow you want to insert. Remember that 
you have to insert the whole flow, so you must store each piece in its own 
flow. I believe you can have up to about 255 flows in a single doc.

Hope this helps.
Roger

Roger Shuttleworth
Technical Documentation
AV-BASE Systems Inc.
1000 Air Ontario Drive, Suite 200
London, Ontario
N5V 3S4
Tel. 519 691-0919 ext. 330
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From: ray.ll...@agfa.com
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Fri, 02 Dec 2011 03:52:29 -0500
Subject: re-using paragraphs in Unstructured FrameMaker

Are there any tricks to pull in a paragraph  (e.g. a note) into several 
documents for re-use beside using Text Insets?  I'd like to put all these 
re-usable paragraphs in one document and then  pull specific paragraphs into 
other documents -- similar to what you can  do with the conref mechanism in 
DITA XML.  
Any ideas welcome.  
Ray



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Stop number break in table

2011-12-02 Thread Fred Ridder

Yes the dimension you enter in the Cell Margin boxes in the Paragraph Designer 
gets added to the default marginn from the table format. But you can enter a 
*negative* value in the Cell Margin box to reduce the default margin even if 
the mathematical operation is an addition. It works just the way it should.

-Fred Ridder




From: tdew...@charter.net
To: sullivanmattr at gmail.com; rick at rickquatro.com
Subject: RE: Stop number break in table
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 11:48:20 -0600
CC: framers at lists.frameusers.com






Works like a champ guys, thanks.  At first it didn?t appear to work, but I 
forgot that the default setting for table margin in the paragraph designer is 
?Cell margin *plus*? what you put in the box. I had to change that to custom. 
Since I normally establish cell margins for a table in the table designer 
rather than the paragraph designer, I wasn?t as familiar with that option. But 
that?s a great trick because I work with tables a lot and that will come in 
handy in the future.

From: Matt Sullivan [mailto:sullivanma...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 10:57 AM
To: Rick Quatro
Cc: Timothy DeWees; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Stop number break in table

Yep, Stuart and Rick are correct...just create a Paragraph Formant for those 
numbers that sets the Table Cell properties appropriately and independently of 
the Table Format



-Matt

@mattrsullivan

On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 8:20 AM, Rick Quatro  wrote:


You can reduce the individual cell margins via the Table Cell tab of the 
Paragraph Designer.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-659-8267
rick at frameexpert.com
http://www.frameexpert.com





From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Timothy DeWees
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 4:37 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: FW: Stop number break in table




Thanks, that does work. But one problem is that reduces the cell insets for all 
cells in the table and causes text in other cells to run too close together. 
That was an issue in the original Word document that I was tasked to fix in the 
frame document. The whole document now looks great in frame, I just can?t get 
this one number to render correctly in the right column. 

Tim

From: Matt Sullivan [mailto:sullivanma...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 7:00 PM
To: Timothy DeWees
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Stop number break in table

Check the cell insets in the Table Designer. Reduce them and you should be ok



-Matt

@mattrsullivan

On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 2:37 AM, Timothy DeWees  wrote:


I am in the process of converting a Word Document to FrameMaker. I?ve got 
everything working correctly except for one detail. The document has a number 
of tables with a narrow column on the right margin for revision numbers. For 
numbers 1-9, it looks fine. But when I get to a two digit number (the document 
is currently on revision 10), the ?10? insists on breaking across two lines. 
I?ve tried changing fonts and reducing cell margins to where it looks like 
there is plenty of space in the column to display the ?10? on one line. But it 
still insists on breaking it across two lines. Thanks in advance for any advice 
you can give me!

Tim DeWees


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