Adobe vendor post DITA to PDF output webinar Fri July 12
Friday July 12, 10AM Pacific Time: Rich PDF output from DITA via FrameMaker FrameMaker 11 is a complete DITA authoring and publishing solution. With built-in support for DITA 1.2, you can open XML files directly, edit as needed and save back to your DITA .xml source files. In addition, FrameMaker is recognized as one of the easiest and best options for DITA output to PDF. Join us as veteran online trainer and Adobe Certified Instructor Matt Sullivan presents this straightforward walk through of FrameMaker's DITA PDF publishing workflow. Matt will cover topics including: == The differences between ditamap and FrameMaker binary formats == Proper usage of FrameMaker nested books and flat file books == Accessing the default FrameMaker DITA template files to brand your PDF output == A discussion of FrameMaker Publishing Server for scheduling regular builds of your output. At the end of this session you will be comfortable creating basic DITA files, as well as making changes to those files and outputting them to PDF. You may register at: http://adobe.ly/14ZzI3E Maxwell Hoffmann | Product Evangelist | Adobe | p. +01 503.336.5952 | mhoff...@adobe.com http://twitter.com/maxwellhoffmann - http://www.linkedin.com/in/maxwellhoffmann blogs.adobe.com/techcomm Upcoming webinars http://adobe.ly/Pbz6xIRecorded webinars: http://adobe.ly/Pbdp0J ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: DITA/docbook vs your own schema
You can buy the electronic version from http://comtech-serv.com//index.php?main_page=product_infocPath=28_3products_id=10. I really like ebooks. I'm reading it already. Thanks for your replies, everyone. It's been very helpful! Rebecca Alan T Litchfield a...@alphabyte.co.nz 10/07/13 15:31 Unfortunately, that book cannot be sold internationally by Amazon. :( Alan On 10/07/13 2:19 PM, Writer wrote: Agreed. That has been my go to book since I started using DITA. Nadine This is a really good book for getting experience in using DITA 1.2. I found that the sample application that is developed was very straightforward to implement in FrameMaker. It won't teach you everything you need to know about DITA, but all the basics are there. http://www.amazon.com/Introduction-DITA-Second-Edition-Architecture/dp/0977863433 An Arbortext specific version of this book also exists. (The one above is not FM specific, but it really doesn't need to be.) Craig -- AlphaByte PO Box 1941, Auckland http://www.alphabyte.co.nz ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as rebecca.offi...@alliedtelesis.co.nz. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/rebecca.officer%40alliedtelesis.co.nz Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify Allied Telesis Labs Ltd immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender has the authority to issue and specifically states them to be the views of Allied Telesis Labs. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Custom Ruling and Shading of Tables via xml and EDD rules
Hi Ed I suspect your problem arises because you have not distinguished carefully between HTML and XML. The class attribute of HTML/CSS has no specific meaning in XML, which by its definition allows you to use elements and attributes of your own defining. So to address your question and give some pointers: Table, row, and cell properties are mapped from XML to FrameMaker (and back) using XML attributes and read-write rules. There are no EDD rules to handle these things. What you need to do, assuming you are not using a standard DTD in which much of the work is done for you, is: 1. Define the XML attributes that you will use, and their possible values. If you are using DITA or another standard DTD, they are already defined and you can read about them in the DITA (or other) Language Reference. 2. Identify which FrameMaker property corresponds to each XML attribute. For example, you may have an attribute called align for a table cell. This would correspond to a specific FM property that defines the alignment of text in a table cell. You can find out the names of the FM properties in the Structure Application Developer's Guide which is available from the Adobe website. They are very specific. (Sorry, I don't have access right now to specific information.) 3. Identify which XML attribute values correspond to which specific FM property value. Again, the values are given in the SADG and are very specific. 4. Write read-write rules that map the attributes and their values to the FM properties and their values. As an example, you may like to study the read-write rules that come with the DITA XML application (in the FM installation\structure\xml\DITA\app folder and its subfolders. I believe there are examples in there that will give you the idea. Writing read-write rules is the most challenging part of creating a structured application (IMHO), because they have to be exactly right and the exact syntax is not always easily found. So you will need to persevere. I hope this gives you some ideas. Bottom line: define these things in the RWR, not in the EDD. Roger Repatriated to the UK On 10/07/2013 12:40 AM, Ed Nodland wrote: I have XML files that include tables. Some cells include a class such as: td class=cheader Centered text with gray shading td class=header Left justified text with gray shading td class=cbody Centered text not shaded td class=body Left justified text not shaded I want to be able to open the XML file using FM10 and have the cells formatted. I do not see a Custom Ruling and Shading EDD Rule that allows ruling and shading to be defined for a cell based on a Context Rule such as [class=cheader]. _Am I missing something?_ It appears that using the table format styles are limited to an orderly set of rulings and shadings rather than being totally custom or XML attribute driven for specific rows or cells. I can change the markup or take a totally different approach but I nered the format to be driven by the XML data not manual activity in Framemaker aftrer opening the XML file.. _Any suggestions?_ _ _ Ed Nodland ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as shutti...@gmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/shuttie27%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Custom Ruling and Shading of Tables via xml and EDD rules
Thanks Roger, This sets me on the right track, and that is all I needed. I will look up the properties, use XSLT to transform the class values to a set of attributes that I can map to FM properties in the R/W Rules file. This is all simple and routine for us to do here. I agree with what you said, the exact syntax [of the FM properties] is not always easily found. I have the Structure Application Developer's Guide right here in front of me. On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 1:05 AM, Roger Shuttleworth shutti...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Ed * * * * * 4. Write read-write rules that map the attributes and their values to the FM properties and their values. * * * * * Roger Repatriated to the UK * * * * * I do not see a Custom Ruling and Shading EDD Rule that allows ruling and shading to be defined for a cell based on a Context Rule such as [class=cheader]. _Am I missing something?_ * * * * * _Any suggestions?_ _ _ Ed Nodland ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: table anchor location
Hi Tim, To get the table flush with the top of the text frame on the page, follow this procedure: http://frameautomation.com/2010/09/14/lining-up-a-table-across-columns/ Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-283-5045 r...@frameexpert.com From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Timothy DeWees Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 3:38 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: table anchor location I've been struggling to get a table anchor to be at the bottom of one page and the table to start at the next. This is something that seems to really be important to my client. I understand that I can tell the table to start at the top of a page, but then the anchor ends up on a blank page all by itself. I've tried to set the anchor format to keep it with the previous paragraph, but rather than the anchor moving back to the previous page, it will pull the last line of text from the previous page to the top of next page with the anchor. I've also tried setting negative space at the top of my table, but the anchor still takes up a little bit of space and my client will notice this. I'm thinking there must be something simple here that I am missing. Thanks for any help. Tim ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Adobe vendor post DITA to PDF output webinar Fri July 12
Dear Maxwell, I trust this webinar will be recorded, and made available through the Adobe / Company / Online Events page? http://adobe.ly/Pbdp0J Regards -- Simon BUCH -- M-AIS [a former Adobe employee - 1997 to 2003 - London, Edinburgh, and Seattle] On 10/07/2013 02:16, Maxwell Hoffmann wrote: Friday July 12, 10AM Pacific Time: Rich PDF output from DITA via FrameMaker FrameMaker 11 is a complete DITA authoring and publishing solution. With built-in support for DITA 1.2, you can open XML files directly, edit as needed and save back to your DITA .xml source files. In addition, FrameMaker is recognized as one of the easiest and best options for DITA output to PDF. Join us as veteran online trainer and Adobe Certified Instructor Matt Sullivan presents this straightforward walk through of FrameMaker's DITA PDF publishing workflow. Matt will cover topics including: == The differences between ditamap and FrameMaker binary formats == Proper usage of FrameMaker nested books and flat file books == Accessing the default FrameMaker DITA template files to brand your PDF output == A discussion of FrameMaker Publishing Server for scheduling regular builds of your output. At the end of this session you will be comfortable creating basic DITA files, as well as making changes to those files and outputting them to PDF. You may register at: http://adobe.ly/14ZzI3E Maxwell Hoffmann | Product Evangelist | Adobe | p. +01 503.336.5952 | mhoff...@adobe.com http://twitter.com/maxwellhoffmann - http://www.linkedin.com/in/maxwellhoffmann blogs.adobe.com/techcomm Upcoming webinars http://adobe.ly/Pbz6xIRecorded webinars: http://adobe.ly/Pbdp0J ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as simon.b...@m-ais.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/simon.buch%40m-ais.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Adobe vendor post DITA to PDF output webinar Fri July 12
Of course! -MattMatt R. Sullivanco-authorPublishing Fundamentals: Unstructured FrameMaker 11P:714.798.7596 |C:714.585.2335 |m...@mattrsullivan.com@mattrsullivanLinkedInfacebookmattrsullivan.com On Jul 11, 2013, at 9:06 AM, Simon BUCH simon.b...@m-ais.com wrote:Dear Maxwell,I trust this webinar will be recorded, and made available through the Adobe / Company / Online Events page?http://adobe.ly/Pbdp0JRegards-- Simon BUCH -- M-AIS[a former Adobe employee - 1997 to 2003 - London, Edinburgh, and Seattle]___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: DITA/docbook vs your own schema
Rebecca Officer wrote: ? You can buy the electronic version from http://comtech-serv.com//index.php?main_page=product_infocPath=28_3products_id=10http://comtech-serv.com/index.php?main_page=product_infocPath=28_3products_id=10. ? I really like ebooks. I'm reading it already. Thanks for the info, Rebecca! 1. Do you know the ebook format for this book? What reader are you using? The site does not describe it as far as I could tell. 2. If not a downloadable format, do you have to stay connected to the Internet while reading, or starting to read, it? Z rant The reason I ask is that I prefer to read on my Kindle Fire and/or a Kindle app on my laptop - particularly when travelling on a plane or hotel. And Kindle books do _not_ require a live Internet connection while reading! Last fall, my son decided to try an electronic textbook for a High School class to save paper and the result is _extremely_ disappointing. The protections on the file (whatever the format is) require a live Internet connection on his Mac whenever he starts reading the book ... apparently to check whether he has the rights to do so. And, if he forgets to change his browser to allow cookies, the program will not even find the book on the site - the download mechanisms failed from the very beginning and the tech support cannot find a solution. This is ridiculous - particularly for such an expensive textbook. This coming fall, we decided to kill trees rather than experiment with text ebooks again. If enough people feel the same way, it will probably make the publisher think that electronic textbooks are not a good market - despite the fact that it was their atrocious rights management system that made it less than useful! And, I am quite leary if the Kindle version of a book is not available - and given that the paper book is sold on Amazon, but there is no reference to a Kindle version - it gives me pause. I have purchased many non-fiction technical books in Kindle format and the format has worked out well - particularly on a Fire HD where images and color diagrams are perfectly fine! /rant ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: DITA/docbook vs your own schema
Neither do PDFs, which are superior in pretty much every way. On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) syed.hos...@aeris.net wrote: Kindle books do _not_ require a live Internet connection while reading! ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: DITA/docbook vs your own schema
Robert Lauriston said: Neither do PDFs, which are superior in pretty much every way. Yes, they are good in many ways, but PDFs don't flow across pages as smoothly as Kindle documents on a Kindle when things like the font-size, etc., are changed. Z ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
table anchor location
I've been struggling to get a table anchor to be at the bottom of one page and the table to start at the next. This is something that seems to really be important to my client. I understand that I can tell the table to start at the top of a page, but then the anchor ends up on a blank page all by itself. I've tried to set the anchor format to keep it with the previous paragraph, but rather than the anchor moving back to the previous page, it will pull the last line of text from the previous page to the top of next page with the anchor. I've also tried setting negative space at the top of my table, but the anchor still takes up a little bit of space and my client will notice this. I'm thinking there must be something simple here that I am missing. Thanks for any help. Tim -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130711/90f46b1f/attachment.html>
table anchor location
Hi Tim, To get the table flush with the top of the text frame on the page, follow this procedure: http://frameautomation.com/2010/09/14/lining-up-a-table-across-columns/ Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-283-5045 rick at frameexpert.com From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Timothy DeWees Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 3:38 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: table anchor location I've been struggling to get a table anchor to be at the bottom of one page and the table to start at the next. This is something that seems to really be important to my client. I understand that I can tell the table to start at the top of a page, but then the anchor ends up on a blank page all by itself. I've tried to set the anchor format to keep it with the previous paragraph, but rather than the anchor moving back to the previous page, it will pull the last line of text from the previous page to the top of next page with the anchor. I've also tried setting negative space at the top of my table, but the anchor still takes up a little bit of space and my client will notice this. I'm thinking there must be something simple here that I am missing. Thanks for any help. Tim -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130711/063634b1/attachment.html>
DITA to PDF output webinar Fri July 12
Dear Maxwell, I trust this webinar will be recorded, and made available through the Adobe / Company / Online Events page? http://adobe.ly/Pbdp0J Regards -- Simon BUCH -- M-AIS [a former Adobe employee - 1997 to 2003 - London, Edinburgh, and Seattle] On 10/07/2013 02:16, Maxwell Hoffmann wrote: > Friday July 12, 10AM Pacific Time: > Rich PDF output from DITA via FrameMaker > > FrameMaker 11 is a complete DITA authoring and publishing solution. With > built-in support for DITA 1.2, you can open XML files directly, edit as > needed and save back to your DITA .xml source files. In addition, FrameMaker > is recognized as one of the easiest and best options for DITA output to PDF. > Join us as veteran online trainer and Adobe Certified Instructor Matt > Sullivan presents this straightforward walk through of FrameMaker's DITA PDF > publishing workflow. Matt will cover topics including: > > == The differences between ditamap and FrameMaker binary formats > == Proper usage of FrameMaker nested books and flat file books > == Accessing the default FrameMaker DITA template files to brand your PDF > output > == A discussion of FrameMaker Publishing Server for scheduling regular builds > of your output. > > At the end of this session you will be comfortable creating basic DITA files, > as well as making changes to those files and outputting them to PDF. > > You may register at: http://adobe.ly/14ZzI3E > > > Maxwell Hoffmann | Product Evangelist | Adobe | p. +01 503.336.5952 | > mhoffman at adobe.com > http://twitter.com/maxwellhoffmann - > http://www.linkedin.com/in/maxwellhoffmann blogs.adobe.com/techcomm > Upcoming webinars http://adobe.ly/Pbz6xIRecorded webinars: > http://adobe.ly/Pbdp0J > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as simon.buch at m-ais.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/simon.buch%40m-ais.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130711/f238cfe8/attachment.html>
DITA to PDF output webinar Fri July 12
Of course! -Matt Matt R. Sullivan co-author Publishing Fundamentals: Unstructured FrameMaker 11 P: 714.798.7596 | C: 714.585.2335 | matt at mattrsullivan.com @mattrsullivan LinkedIn facebook mattrsullivan.com On Jul 11, 2013, at 9:06 AM, Simon BUCH wrote: > Dear Maxwell, > > I trust this webinar will be recorded, and made available through the Adobe / > Company / Online Events page? > http://adobe.ly/Pbdp0J > > > Regards > -- Simon BUCH -- M-AIS > [a former Adobe employee - 1997 to 2003 - London, Edinburgh, and Seattle] -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130711/8417c85b/attachment.html> -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: twitter.png Type: image/png Size: 1331 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130711/8417c85b/attachment.png> -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: linkedin.png Type: image/png Size: 1380 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130711/8417c85b/attachment-0001.png> -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: facebook.png Type: image/png Size: 1576 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130711/8417c85b/attachment-0002.png> -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: blog.png Type: image/png Size: 1222 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130711/8417c85b/attachment-0003.png>
DITA/docbook vs your own schema
Rebecca Officer wrote: ? You can buy the electronic version from http://comtech-serv.com//index.php?main_page=product_info=28_3_id=10<http://comtech-serv.com/index.php?main_page=product_info=28_3_id=10>. ? I really like ebooks. I'm reading it already. Thanks for the info, Rebecca! 1. Do you know the ebook format for this book? What reader are you using? The site does not describe it as far as I could tell. 2. If not a "downloadable" format, do you have to stay connected to the Internet while reading, or starting to read, it? Z The reason I ask is that I prefer to read on my Kindle Fire and/or a Kindle app on my laptop - particularly when travelling on a plane or hotel. And Kindle books do _not_ require a live Internet connection while reading! Last fall, my son decided to try an electronic textbook for a High School class "to save paper" and the result is _extremely_ disappointing. The protections on the file (whatever the format is) require a live Internet connection on his Mac whenever he starts reading the book ... apparently to check whether he has the rights to do so. And, if he forgets to change his browser to allow cookies, the program will not even find the book on the site - the "download" mechanisms failed from the very beginning and the tech support cannot find a solution. This is ridiculous - particularly for such an expensive textbook. This coming fall, we decided to kill trees rather than experiment with text ebooks again. If enough people feel the same way, it will probably make the publisher think that electronic textbooks are not a good market - despite the fact that it was their atrocious rights management system that made it less than useful! And, I am quite leary if the Kindle version of a book is not available - and given that the paper book is sold on Amazon, but there is no reference to a Kindle version - it gives me pause. I have purchased many non-fiction technical books in Kindle format and the format has worked out well - particularly on a Fire HD where images and color diagrams are perfectly fine! -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130711/b3cad9d3/attachment.html>
DITA/docbook vs your own schema
Neither do PDFs, which are superior in pretty much every way. On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net) wrote: > Kindle books do _not_ require a live Internet connection while reading!
DITA/docbook vs your own schema
Robert Lauriston said: > Neither do PDFs, which are superior in pretty much every way. Yes, they are good in many ways, but PDFs don't flow across pages as smoothly as Kindle documents on a Kindle when things like the font-size, etc., are changed. Z
