shortcut to change text boxes to make room for side heads

2014-02-26 Thread Carol J. Elkins
Just for future reference, is there some magical shortcut that 
automatically changes EVERY text box in a document so that it makes 
room for side heads? I have no idea what I accidentally pushed, but I 
somehow found that magical shortcut. It took me hours to locate every 
text box in a 100+ page document and manually change it back to NOT 
make room for side heads. I'd just like to know what the shortcut is 
so that I never, ever, ever do that again.


Carol

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RE: shortcut to change text boxes to make room for side heads

2014-02-26 Thread Carol J. Elkins
I'm working in Frame 11, all patches applied. So if it's a bug, it is 
persistent.


Carol

At 09:44 AM 2/26/2014, Craig Ede wrote:
I look forward to the responses to this since I have had the same 
thing happen to me (on FM10). It may be a bug. Usually I immediately 
close the document without saving and am okay. Occasionally I have 
to reimport the master pages from my template. Whatever causes this 
is a big problem. I don't believe I've seen this in FM 11.


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RE: Round-trip revisions via MS Word. Alternate methods?

2014-02-26 Thread Alan Salo (Ariens Plant 1)
Hi everyone. First post.

My team converts our material to Word frequently for our Product Support
group to use.

Our trick is to create a pdf of the Frame document (as we normally do;
our preferred delivery). We then use Acrobat's File...  Save As
Other...  Microsoft Word... to create a .docx Word doc. Even the tables
stay tidy.

We're on Windows 7 64-bit Enterprise, FrameMaker 11 and Acrobat Pro XI.

Thanks,
Alan

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Harding, Dan
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 8:21 AM
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Subject: Round-trip revisions via MS Word. Alternate methods?

Good morning,

We have used the same authoring process for eons: Authors/editors work
in MS Word, as well as preliminary indexing work. I then take the MS
Word file, import into FM (unstructured) and do the final print-ready
formatting, making things adhere to our publishing standards and
tightening up consistency.

As a process it work well... until it's time to revise the book for the
next edition.

Our authors and editors will ONLY work in MS Word. PDF
comments/revisions will not work, as there frequently are extensive
revisions including insertion of new sections (multiple pages) of
content, as well as shuffling of content.

When I export the final FM version back to MS Word for them to work on,
the conversion is VERY crude and frequently requires extensive work on
the post-conversion Word files for the editors to be able to work within
the files.

Then of course there's the reformatting from scratch in FM when the
revisions are done (which actually is faster and more reliable than
trying to reconcile changes in the MS Word version with the existing FM
version).

Is there a better way to perform the round-trip process given the MS
Word requirement, and barring that, are there better ways/tools to get
cleaner MS Word files from FM than exporting to RTF?

Would making the change from unstructured to structured FM on my part
help in this regard?

Environment:

Windows 7 64-bit Enterprise
Framemaker 10 (unstructured) [NOTE: TCS 5 is on order but I have not
received it yet.] Microsoft Office 2010

Thank you in advance.

Dan Harding
University of Illinois Tax School

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RE: shortcut to change text boxes to make room for side heads

2014-02-26 Thread Craig Ede
I look forward to the responses to this since I have had the same thing happen 
to me (on FM10). It may be a bug. Usually I immediately close the document 
without saving and am okay. Occasionally I have to reimport the master pages 
from my template. Whatever causes this is a big problem. I don't believe I've 
seen this in FM 11.

Craig

 Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 09:40:02 -0700
 To: fram...@omsys.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com
 From: celk...@awrittenword.com
 Subject: shortcut to change text boxes to make room for side heads
 
 Just for future reference, is there some magical shortcut that 
 automatically changes EVERY text box in a document so that it makes 
 room for side heads? I have no idea what I accidentally pushed, but I 
 somehow found that magical shortcut. It took me hours to locate every 
 text box in a 100+ page document and manually change it back to NOT 
 make room for side heads. I'd just like to know what the shortcut is 
 so that I never, ever, ever do that again.
 
 Carol
 
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 Phone: 719-948-3773
 mailto:celk...@awrittenword.com
 http://www.awrittenword.com
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Re: Compatibility of old(ish) Software with Windows 7

2014-02-26 Thread Robert Lauriston
I own FrameMaker 6, Acrobat 8, Photoshop 5, Illustrator 7, and various
more obscure apps of similar vintage. They all work fine for my
purposes and upgrading would be not just a waste of money but a waste
of time having to get used to UI changes.

Buying a newer version of something because I needed it to work with a
client's docs is the main reason I've upgraded, but I haven't
freelanced with my own software in a long time.

Unicode was added in FrameMaker 8, which remains the high-water mark
for that codeline.

On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 12:43 AM, Davis, David david.da...@invensys.com wrote:
 The thing is, Robert,
 FM7 and Acrobat 7 have problems with more than just Windows 7,
 and if someone's earning their living using them, my advice to them would be 
 to update their tools to something more recent, rather than compromise their 
 operating system!
 Even on a basic level, if you only have FM7, you are not going to be able to 
 open any FrameMaker docs you get sent from people with FM7.1, 7.2, 8, 9, 10, 
 11 or 12!
 And you don't have Unicode support (that was FM 7.2, I think?).
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Re: Round-trip revisions via MS Word. Alternate methods?

2014-02-26 Thread Robert Lauriston
How's the re-import into FrameMaker?

On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 7:17 AM, Alan Salo (Ariens Plant 1)
as...@ariens.com wrote:
 Our trick is to create a pdf of the Frame document (as we normally do;
 our preferred delivery). We then use Acrobat's File...  Save As
 Other...  Microsoft Word... to create a .docx Word doc. Even the tables
 stay tidy.
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FrameMaker Word conversion service?

2014-02-26 Thread Robert Lauriston
Are there commercial services that do one-offs for people who don't
own or plan to buy FrameMaker?
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Re: FrameMaker Word conversion service?

2014-02-26 Thread Sean
Hi,

Well, it’s just a brute force thing. Do an auto conversion and then clean it 
up, perhaps applying Word styles? 

How is the documentation to be maintained and updated going forward? Word and 
FrameMaker separately, I would think.

Sean


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 Are there commercial services that do one-offs for people who don't
 own or plan to buy FrameMaker?
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