RE: FM 12 + RH 11 OR WebWorks ePublisher
I’m running WebWorks on a six-year-old quad-core Pentium with 2 GB RAM under Windows XP, with my books and projects stored on our network, and have never found performance to be a serious issue. Mind you, my largest document is only about 300 pages if printed. I don’t think getting stationery or templates set up correctly is any more time consuming in WebWorks than it would be in RoboHelp or in the Publish module of Frame 12. Most of the work is mapping your document’s styles to the proper online format, which is a similar process in all three programs. If you have manual customizations (tweaks to CSS or scripts made outside of the GUI), it’s true that update releases can cause problems, but recent versions of WebWorks make it pretty straightforward to find the source of any problems. Regards Keith From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of gr...@hedgewizard.net Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 10:48 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: FM 12 + RH 11 OR WebWorks ePublisher ePub is quite good at creating PDFs, but there are a couple of caveats: 1. It does not work on a remote Citrix desktop. (I suspect that it might have problems with others, but have no experience with them) 2. It *really* wants a modern system with lots of RAM (8GB ) and drive space. It will work on lesser machines, but you might as well go see a movie while you are waiting. Finally: It takes quite a while to get the stationery (templates) set up correctly, and there are problems with the stationery for one release not always working with another release (or update). Grant On March 12, 2014 at 3:00 PM Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.commailto:rob...@lauriston.com wrote: As long as you're evaluating alternatives, you should check out WebWorks ePublisher. It can use Word, FrameMaker, and/or DITA as source and the output. I haven't looked at its PDF output since my source was in FrameMaker, but it kicked RoboHelp 10 to the curb as far as web help. NOTICE OF CONFIDENTIALITY This e-mail, including all materials contained in or attached to this e-mail, contains proprietary and confidential information solely for the internal use of the intended recipient. If you have received this email in error, please notify us immediately by return e-mail or otherwise and ensure that it is permanently deleted from your systems, and do not print, copy, distribute or read its contents. AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALITÉ Le présent courriel, y compris tous les documents qu'il contient ou qui y sont joints, renferme des renseignements exclusifs et confidentiels destinés uniquement à l'usage interne du destinataire prévu. Si vous avez reçu le présent courriel par erreur, veuillez nous aviser immédiatement, notamment par retour de courriel, et vous assurer qu'il est supprimé de façon permanente de vos systèmes; veuillez également vous abstenir d'imprimer, de copier, de distribuer ou de lire son contenu. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM 12 + RH 11 OR WebWorks ePublisher
Are you speaking specifically about PDF there? I found the web help stationery usable pretty much out of the box. On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 7:47 AM, gr...@hedgewizard.net gr...@hedgewizard.net wrote: ePub is quite good at creating PDFs, but there are a couple of caveats: ... Finally: It takes quite a while to get the stationery (templates) set up correctly, and there are problems with the stationery for one release not always working with another release (or update). ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: FM 12 + RH 11 OR WebWorks ePublisher
Hey Keith— I'm pleased to read that ePub is working for you. I don't find it a *bad* tool, just problematic (and every tool has its own problems). I was reporting on the experience I and the other writers at my current employer have found; which was that the more local you could make things, the better. I don't know what my coworkers are using (I'm remote), but I do know that they are laptops. I'm running a mid-level i5 Quadcore with 16GB RAM and multiple TB of disk space. We have found that what takes me 5 min takes them 60+ min. (1300pp), and about 2 min/45 min (800pp, but more graphics (PNGs). As for the template/stationery issue, again, I have to go by the problems the writer who is our dedicated person for that has discussed with me, and the fact that we are having to run two different versions of ePubExpress because of licencing issues (and corporate bean counting); and that either the stylesheet writer will need to keep two separate style sheets in sync, or some writers will be able to process only some docs (and others, others). The company is actually working at dropping all copies of FM and WebWorks, and moving to DITA (SDL+XMetaL). I will say that the stylesheet issues there are currently *much* worse than with FM/WWP, mostly because the company has contracted with some third party to control them. $ for any change, so changes only happen every 6 mo or so. Somebody related to upper management must have needed work, or had a cousin who did. grin On March 13, 2014 at 1:39 PM Keith Soltys keith.sol...@tmx.com wrote: I’m running WebWorks on a six-year-old quad-core Pentium with 2 GB RAM under Windows XP, with my books and projects stored on our network, and have never found performance to be a serious issue. Mind you, my largest document is only about 300 pages if printed. I don’t think getting stationery or templates set up correctly is any more time consuming in WebWorks than it would be in RoboHelp or in the Publish module of Frame 12. Most of the work is mapping your document’s styles to the proper online format, which is a similar process in all three programs. If you have manual customizations (tweaks to CSS or scripts made outside of the GUI), it’s true that update releases can cause problems, but recent versions of WebWorks make it pretty straightforward to find the source of any problems. Regards Keith From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of gr...@hedgewizard.net Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 10:48 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: FM 12 + RH 11 OR WebWorks ePublisher ePub is quite good at creating PDFs, but there are a couple of caveats: 1. It does not work on a remote Citrix desktop. (I suspect that it might have problems with others, but have no experience with them) 2. It *really* wants a modern system with lots of RAM (8GB ) and drive space. It will work on lesser machines, but you might as well go see a movie while you are waiting. Finally: It takes quite a while to get the stationery (templates) set up correctly, and there are problems with the stationery for one release not always working with another release (or update). Grant On March 12, 2014 at 3:00 PM Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com mailto:rob...@lauriston.com wrote: As long as you're evaluating alternatives, you should check out WebWorks ePublisher. It can use Word, FrameMaker, and/or DITA as source and the output. I haven't looked at its PDF output since my source was in FrameMaker, but it kicked RoboHelp 10 to the curb as far as web help. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM 12 + RH 11 OR WebWorks ePublisher
I wasn't around for the OOB version, so I don't know how much work needed to be done for the initial setup; I just know by anecdote that maintenance for both was apparently a PITA for the person responsible. On March 13, 2014 at 2:33 PM Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote: Are you speaking specifically about PDF there? I found the web help stationery usable pretty much out of the box. On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 7:47 AM, gr...@hedgewizard.net gr...@hedgewizard.net wrote: ePub is quite good at creating PDFs, but there are a couple of caveats: ... Finally: It takes quite a while to get the stationery (templates) set up correctly, and there are problems with the stationery for one release not always working with another release (or update).___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: TOC Failure
I think you can rename the bad file, create a new TOC with the add file command, and cut and paste the reference page content from the old file to the new one. On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Craig, Alison alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com wrote: I received a request for help from my counterparts at a sister company in Denmark. I know they are running unstructured Frame 9 and should be all patched at this point. At least one system is a 64 bit Windows 7 Pro machine. The issue is a TOC file that is no longer a TOC file. It's simply registering as a regular FM file in the book, although it used to be a proper TOC file that updated just fine when required. Can anyone tell me: ·why - and how - would a TOC file stop being a TOC file? ·short of simply recreating a new TOC file, is there a way to salvage the existing file and turn it back into an updatable TOC? Thanks, Alison Alison Craig | Technical Documentation Lead Ultrasonix | 130-4311 Viking Way | Richmond, BC V6V 2K9 | analogicultrasound.com T 604-279-8550 ext 127 | F 604-279-8559 ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as rob...@lauriston.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/robert%40lauriston.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: TOC Failure
Hi Alison, this is a problem that I very often have: My colleagues are using the English installation of FrameMaker which uses name extensions like TOC, SIX, and para formats like body, and so on, whereas my German Frame uses IVZ, IX, Haupttext, and so on. My installation does not always recognize generated files coming from the English version. This is very annoying, and when I re-generate, the standard para formats (German name is not LevelTOC but EbeneIVZ!) do not exist in the file and will come up with a useless standard formatting. Furthermore, some reference pages will not be found, which especially applies for index generation. So its much work then to recover files and formatting... You better take care that all colleagues are using the same installation language (preferably English). FrameMaker comes with a multi-language installer, but of course normally those with the wrong language have to re-install their FrameMaker. Best regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin Craig, Alison: I received a request for help from my counterparts at a sister company in Denmark. I know they are running unstructured Frame 9 and should be all patched at this point. At least one system is a 64 bit Windows 7 Pro machine. The issue is a TOC file that is no longer a TOC file. It's simply registering as a regular FM file in the book, although it used to be a proper TOC file that updated just fine when required. Can anyone tell me: · why - and how - would a TOC file stop being a TOC file? · short of simply recreating a new TOC file, is there a way to salvage the existing file and turn it back into an updatable TOC? Thanks, Alison ALISON CRAIG | TECHNICAL DOCUMENTATION LEAD Ultrasonix | 130-4311 Viking Way | Richmond, BC V6V 2K9 | analogicultrasound.com [1] T 604-279-8550 EXT 127 | F 604-279-8559 Links: -- [1] http://www.analogicultrasound.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Turkish Font Issue
Happy Friday! My team is using FrameMaker 11 to build our international manuals. This problem occurs on two of the workstations: When using Adobe Distiller to print a Turkish-language file to a PDF we have font errors where certain characters do not distill correctly and appear as boxes. The fonts used in the FrameMaker file are Arial and Arial Unicode and they display correctly in the Frame file. We get no error messages in the Distiller log files. Two other workstations distill the file without issue. The font set from the working stations has been copied to the non-working stations but does not make a difference. We've tried printing using the Adobe PDF printer and unchecking the Rely on system fonts only; do not use document fonts box with no success. All other 16 languages distill without issue. Any clues are appreciated. Cheers, Alan ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
tracking Help page usage
We are currently not doing context-sensitive help; instead, users click a Help icon which launches a nice, long doc. Do any of you Framers have any experience tracking doc/page usage? We are comparing Google analytics or RH server. Is anyone using some open source tool they would recommend? Any and all information would be greatly appreciated.___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
xdocbook not preserving white space
Framemaker keeps removing white space (for the programlisting element, for example) upon import, or save and reopen, for xDocbook documents. I changed the control in the maker.ini file, RemoveExtraWhiteSpacesOnXMLImport=Off, but this appears to do nothing. Am I missing something? Robert Carel Technical Publications Manager O: 925.659.3200 | M: 925.659.3267 | twitter: @accelasoftware [http://www.accela.com/ext/logo_email.png]http://www.accela.com/ inline: image001.png___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: What do you all recommend for showing space characters?
How about ␣ (Unicode U+2423, decimal 9251, *open box*). Source:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitespace_character Visible Symbol.
back in the 70's we used a ^ near the bottom of the line, but that was
when writing out code on paper was done before punching it onto cards or
paper tape.
Ed Nodland
SDdat
On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 6:29 PM, Alan Litchfield a...@alphabyte.co.nzwrote:
Hi,
The UTF-8 code for it is U+2423 and it is called Open Box (␣).
In LaTeX you can use the \textvisiblespace{} macro.
Regards
Alan
On 15/03/14 2:09 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) wrote:
Hi, everybody.
In my specifications, I often need to “show” a space character … for a
text format sample, for example.
I usually use a fixed-width font (Consolas) for these format samples.
This helps to make the space character obvious, but isn’t perfect.
Elsewhere, I have also seen the use of an underscore-like character with
little “upticks” at the end.
What do you all do for this purpose? If you use a printing character to
denote a space, what character do you use?
Is there a character in a fixed-width font (ideally Consolas ... I went
looking but did not find something convenient) that would be good?
Thanks!
Z
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Re: tracking Help page usage
I question why ...one long doc... when there are so many easy to use, free or almost free, tools available that can produce a usable help file with full TOC and hyperlinks across chapters from the original source. Context sensitive help is great is time allows for it. It requires collaboration between writer(s) and developers which can add time to the development schedule. On Saturday, March 15, 2014 7:38 AM, hessiansx4 hessian...@yahoo.com wrote: We are currently not doing context-sensitive help; instead, users click a Help icon which launches a nice, long doc. Do any of you Framers have any experience tracking doc/page usage? We are comparing Google analytics or RH server. Is anyone using some open source tool they would recommend? Any and all information would be greatly appreciated. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as dspre...@yahoo.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dspreadb%40yahoo.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: What do you all recommend for showing space characters?
Hi, Alan.
An update (sent to the list too, in case it helps others).
In LaTeX, the \textvisiblespace{} worked perfectly.
In FrameMaker, not surprisingly, it depends on the font. Some fonts have the
U+2423 Open Box character, others do not (even though they may have other
Unicode characters).
For example, in Consolas (which is what I use for fixed-width numbers and
text), there is no U+2423, but I found an excellent alternative.
Specifically, U+02FD, Modifier Letter Shelf is pretty much the same looking
character. Although, I do _think_ it is a tad lower below the baseline than
U+2423, which actually makes it look better for my needs!
Thanks again for all your help!
Regards,
Z
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From: Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 7:24 PM
To: 'Alan Litchfield'; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: What do you all recommend for showing space characters?
Fantastic, thanks much! I will use this for sure ...
Regards,
Z
Alan Litchfield mentioned:
Hi,
The UTF-8 code for it is U+2423 and it is called Open Box (␣).
In LaTeX you can use the \textvisiblespace{} macro.
Regards
Alan
On 15/03/14 2:09 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) wrote:
Hi, everybody.
In my specifications, I often need to “show” a space character … for a
text format sample, for example.
I usually use a fixed-width font (Consolas) for these format samples.
This helps to make the space character obvious, but isn’t perfect.
Elsewhere, I have also seen the use of an underscore-like character
with little “upticks” at the end.
What do you all do for this purpose? If you use a printing character
to denote a space, what character do you use?
Is there a character in a fixed-width font (ideally Consolas ... I
went looking but did not find something convenient) that would be good?
Thanks!
Z
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