RE: . PDF query

2014-10-20 Thread Davis, David
Dennis, You're not the first person to report this problem. I doubt you're doing anything wrong, it's just FrameMaker being buggy. I'd encourage you to report it at Adobe's bug report page https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform Message: 1 Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 12:31:14

RE: PDF query

2014-10-20 Thread Davis, David
Indeed - A pity none of these experts ever manage to get their expert opinion manifested in the FrameMaker user guide / online help, though! David Message: 5 Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 21:31:08 -0500 From: Mike Wickham i...@mikewickham.com To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: PDF query

RE: . PDF query

2014-10-20 Thread Denis Daly
Thanks to everyone who replied. I appreciate all your comments. I will report the issue to Adobe as recommended by David Davis. I have just saved the Book as a PDF (RGB selected) and all the images and text appear to be present. We will eventually wish to send to a print company though. I hope

RE: CMYK vs RGB RE: PDF query

2014-10-20 Thread Craig Ede
Given the theoretical differences I'm not sure why you would expect RGB output of CMYK colors to be close to what CMYK color should looks like. Think of it this way, if you choose a Pantone color as a spot color, you'd expect it to print exactly like as that Pantone color to paper. But to the

RE: CMYK vs RGB RE: PDF query

2014-10-20 Thread Heiko Haida
Well, Craig, thats easy to explain: When I use Illustrator or Indesign, a colour will not change its screen representation if I switch from CMYK definition to RGB definition. That is not a miracle or a question of who knows (these programs use HSB definitions, and obviously the conversion

Re: . PDF query

2014-10-20 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson
Since I started seriously learning FrameMaker (7.0) I have always been advised against using SaveAs PDF but instead print to file using whatever the name has been each version of the Adobe PostScript printer engine. Takes af few more clicks but saves a lot of trouble. Still do it several versions

Re: . PDF query

2014-10-20 Thread Mike Wickham
On 10/20/2014 3:33 AM, Denis Daly wrote: We will eventually wish to send to a print company though. I hope Adobe are able to fix this bug. Here are a few tips if you plan to send to a print company: 1. Use EPS or PDF graphics. FrameMaker normally passes everything through the Windows GDI,

Re: . PDF query

2014-10-20 Thread Lin Sims
My recollection may be faulty, but I seem to recall Dov Isaacs saying the issues with Save As PDF had been fixed a while ago. Now if they can just fix the broken Esc keyboard shortcuts. Lin On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Böðvar Björgvinsson bod...@gmail.com wrote: Since I started seriously

RE: . PDF query

2014-10-20 Thread Davis, David
A recurring problem is that Dov Isaacs says something, and it’s repeated like a mantra by everyone for the next 15 years even when subsequent changes may have made that particular advice obsolete… But then we also have situation when Dov tells that the advice *is* still relevant, but for some

RE: CMYK vs RGB RE: PDF query

2014-10-20 Thread Grafikhuset
It’s definitely NOT easy to explain this. Color conversions are COMPLEX. Anyway, RGB - CMYK conversion is lossy, and CMYK - RGB is also lossy. What is the point of the RGB switch afterall? Why not just pass through what’s input and remove this switch? Best regards / Med venlig hilsen

RE: CMYK vs RGB RE: PDF query

2014-10-20 Thread Heiko Haida
Hi Jacob, my point here is: The CMYK option in FM is not something like a fancy gadget (that is how I understood what Craig said earlier), but essential for a correct colour representation in certain constellations. Here is an example, I enclose a screenshot: 2 rectangular objects are

Re: . PDF query

2014-10-20 Thread Scott Turner
The reason this hasn't been fixed is that it's a Microsoft OS problem, not a FrameMaker problem. It's been made better, but Microsoft is still the culprit. Under the Apple OS, this was a non-problem because there was no translation from CMYK to RGB. They were separate attributes. On Oct 20,

wrapping DITA steps in tables

2014-10-20 Thread Rebecca Officer
Hi everyone When we publish PDFs from our DITA source files, we want to put our tasks in tables. I think that means we want to change the steps element into a 2-column table, such that every step becomes a row. Text from the cmd element would go into the first column, and text from the info