Re: [Framers] OT: Adobe Tool Question

[Mike Wickham]

FrameMaker is an old program and EPS is an old all-purpose kind of 
format. It acts as an envelope for both vector and bitmap graphics, 
without automatically converting vector to bitmap. If you want maximum 
resolution on printing press, vector is preferable for line drawings 
because it is infinitely resizable without pixelation. EPS is also the 
only way to keep Windows GDI from automatically converting CMYK graphics 
to RGB. If your destination is printing press, CMYK is preferred over 
RGB. EPS was also the only way to keep Windows from converting Pantone 
colors to RGB. So, if your destination is printing press, EPS graphics 
are still the safest way to go (although PDF graphics can also do the 
job now).


I hope I got that all right.

Mike Wickham

On 9/9/2016 10:47 AM, Robert Lauriston wrote:

I'm still wondering why EPS is a requirement. That's not normally a
source format, and as an exported format there's not usually no reason
to prefer it to alternatives.




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Re: [Framers] OT: Adobe Tool Question

[Craig Ede]

Adobe Illustrator will open eps easily and allow you to save as a variety of 
formats. Best to save as .ai to have a good source file to work with, but your 
target file can be any number of things. It's easiest if you stay with the same 
source/target (you can't "lose" the source then).


Craig



From: Framers  on 
behalf of Robert Lauriston 
Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 2:40 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] OT: Adobe Tool Question

If the source is in EPS and you don't have the originals, or the EPS
files were created by somebody who thought that was a reasonable
source format, that explains the odd requirement.

It's kind of like having only PDFs and not the original source.

On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 12:01 PM, Tammy Van Boening
 wrote:
>... I need to be able to work with an EPS source and
> then convert to something else, which is why I was asking about the correct
> tools.
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Re: [Framers] OT: Adobe Tool Question

[Robert Lauriston]

I don't like to give people bad advice, especially when it involves
giving a big chunk of money to Adobe or Microsoft.

On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 1:37 PM, Writer  wrote:
> Lately, every time I'm tempted to waste brain cells pondering why people do
> stuff the way they do, I go have a beer instead. I've been learning a lot
> about beer lately.
>
> From: Robert Lauriston 
>
> If the source is in EPS and you don't have the originals, or the EPS
> files were created by somebody who thought that was a reasonable
> source format, that explains the odd requirement.
>
> It's kind of like having only PDFs and not the original source.
>
> On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 12:01 PM, Tammy Van Boening
>  wrote:
>>... I need to be able to work with an EPS source and
>> then convert to something else, which is why I was asking about the
>> correct
>> tools.
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Re: [Framers] OT: Adobe Tool Question

[Writer]

Lately, every time I'm tempted to waste brain cells pondering why people do 
stuff the way they do, I go have a beer instead. I've been learning a lot about 
beer lately.
Nadine

  From: Robert Lauriston 
 To: "framers@lists.frameusers.com"  
 Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 3:40 PM
 Subject: Re: [Framers] OT: Adobe Tool Question
   
If the source is in EPS and you don't have the originals, or the EPS
files were created by somebody who thought that was a reasonable
source format, that explains the odd requirement.

It's kind of like having only PDFs and not the original source.

On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 12:01 PM, Tammy Van Boening
 wrote:
>... I need to be able to work with an EPS source and
> then convert to something else, which is why I was asking about the correct
> tools.
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Re: [Framers] Saving custom ruling and shading

[Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp]

Hi Nancy,

You can not save custom ruling and shading in a table format. You have to set 
the ruling and shading in the Table designer. Or did you do that?


Vriendelijke groet / Kind regards,
 
Wim Hooghwinkel


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Re: [Framers] OT: Adobe Tool Question

[Robert Lauriston]

If the source is in EPS and you don't have the originals, or the EPS
files were created by somebody who thought that was a reasonable
source format, that explains the odd requirement.

It's kind of like having only PDFs and not the original source.

On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 12:01 PM, Tammy Van Boening
 wrote:
>... I need to be able to work with an EPS source and
> then convert to something else, which is why I was asking about the correct
> tools.
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Re: [Framers] OT: Adobe Tool Question

[Tammy Van Boening]

Ours not to reason why, ours but to do and die.

Tammy Van Boening
Owner/Principal
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-Original Message-
From: Framers
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On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 9:47 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] OT: Adobe Tool Question

I'm still wondering why EPS is a requirement. That's not normally a source
format, and as an exported format there's not usually no reason to prefer it
to alternatives.

On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 6:32 AM, Tammy Van Boening
 wrote:
> Thanks All. I purchased a legal version of CS6 (available by phone 
> only from
> Adobe) and installed the components that I needed.
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Re: [Framers] OT: Adobe Tool Question

[Tammy Van Boening]

I am on the same page - I need to be able to work with an EPS source and
then convert to something else, which is why I was asking about the correct
tools.

Thanks all!

TVB

Tammy Van Boening
Owner/Principal
Spectrum Writing, LLC
www.spectrumwritingllc.com
TammyVB  *AT*  spectrumwritingllc  *DOT*  com

-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of Art Campbell
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 5:59 AM
To: Syed Zaeem Hosain
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] OT: Adobe Tool Question

I'd also agree with this -- I'd open the EPS in Photoshop or Acrobat and
save as a PDF.


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On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 9:33 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain 
wrote:

> That is an old version - so not sure if it is true in the latest release.
>
> But I also do not bring in EPS formats - have had too many issues with 
> that (in FM) to use it.
>
> Z
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+syed.hosain=aeris.net@lists.
> frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 11:14 AM
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: [Framers] OT: Adobe Tool Question
>
> Xara may have issues with EPS.
>
> http://www.talkgraphics.com/showthread.php?66467-EPS-in-Designer-Pro-X
> 9
>
> On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain 
> 
> wrote:
> > I highly recommend the Xara products. I use their image editing and
> video products with good results. I switched to their perpetual  
> licensed tools when Adobe went cloud licensed based.
>
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Re: [Framers] OT: Adobe Tool Question

[Robert Lauriston]

I'm still wondering why EPS is a requirement. That's not normally a
source format, and as an exported format there's not usually no reason
to prefer it to alternatives.

On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 6:32 AM, Tammy Van Boening
 wrote:
> Thanks All. I purchased a legal version of CS6 (available by phone only from
> Adobe) and installed the components that I needed.
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Re: [Framers] OT: Adobe Tool Question

[Art Campbell]

I'd also agree with this -- I'd open the EPS in Photoshop or Acrobat and
save as a PDF.


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On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 9:33 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain 
wrote:

> That is an old version - so not sure if it is true in the latest release.
>
> But I also do not bring in EPS formats - have had too many issues with
> that (in FM) to use it.
>
> Z
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+syed.hosain=aeris.net@lists.
> frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 11:14 AM
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: [Framers] OT: Adobe Tool Question
>
> Xara may have issues with EPS.
>
> http://www.talkgraphics.com/showthread.php?66467-EPS-in-Designer-Pro-X9
>
> On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain 
> wrote:
> > I highly recommend the Xara products. I use their image editing and
> video products with good results. I switched to their perpetual  licensed
> tools when Adobe went cloud licensed based.
>
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