Re: [Framers] Best Method, Word 2013 to Frame 2019.
Art has the version that works with melons. -Original Message- From: Framers On Behalf Of Mike Wickham Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 7:09 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: [Framers] Best Method, Word 2013 to Frame 2019. Seconding Art's suggestion and fixing his spelling :) for FindChangeFormatsBatch. You might also find the TableCleanerES script useful. Mike Wickham On 3/11/2019 10:56 AM, Art Campbell wrote: > Rick Quattro's RindChangeFormatsBatch is the best tag and style > remapping tool I've found -- highly recommended . > ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Best Method, Word 2013 to Frame 2019.
Seconding Art's suggestion and fixing his spelling :) for FindChangeFormatsBatch. You might also find the TableCleanerES script useful. Mike Wickham On 3/11/2019 10:56 AM, Art Campbell wrote: Rick Quattro's RindChangeFormatsBatch is the best tag and style remapping tool I've found -- highly recommended . ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Best Method, Word 2013 to Frame 2019.
I strongly recommend starting with one of the smallest docs to learn the process. If due to bad formatting in the Word source the import is not clean and needs a lot of work, you might try the convert-to-zip-and-extract approach. On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 8:28 AM Richard Melanson wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > > I have read over the years numerous ways to get Word docs into FrameMaker. Is > there one "best method" out there that everyone agrees is the way to go. > > I have a 413 page Word 2013 doc with embedded graphics, tables, and anything > else you can through into Word. I have been away from Frame for about 6 or 7 > years so I have some catching up to do. My company just purchased the Adobe > Tech Comm Suite for me, my recommendation, and want me to move ALL the Word > stuff, starting with one of the biggest docs. > > I really appreciate any input you guys through at me as I ramp back up to > using Frame again. ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Best Method, Word 2013 to Frame 2019.
If I might suggest a slightly different way of getting the graphics out of a Word file (works for PowerPoint too)... Make sure the file is in the .docx format, not .doc (and .pptx, not .ppt) Make a copy of the file for safety Change the file extension from .docx to .zip Open the zip file Look for the doc folder (or ppt) Look for the media folder All the graphics are there--usually in a higher quality than a web export David Creamer IDEAS ADOBE Authorized Instructor & Certified Expert since 1994 Adobe Community Professional FrameMaker Certified since 1991, including structured XML Online, on site, and classroom training ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Best Method, Word 2013 to Frame 2019.
If you are going to import into a stricter FameMaker environment, then you conversion table will help cut down on your mania formatting. If it isn’t structured then the other suggestions to use he plugins are a great way to go. Mostly, people use line formatting instead of the paragraph and character tags, which makes transformation more difficult and manual. I always export the Word document to RTF first to import the text, then I save the word/RTF file as a web page (html). This extracts all of the graphics for import by reference or other graphic manipulation. > On Mar 11, 2019, at 12:27, Shmuel Wolfson wrote: > > If everything is tagged as Normal, you can do a find/replace in Word to find > specific character formats, such as a specific font size, a certain font, or > bold, and replace with a specific style. Word's Find/Replace is very good. To > do this, leave the Find box blank. > > >> On 11-Mar-19 6:15 PM, Carol J. Elkins wrote: >> If your Word docs are formatted to use 100% Normal style, then, your only >> choice is to manually tag every paragraph in Frame. I find it easiest to >> copy/paste from the Word doc rather than opening the Word doc in Frame. That >> prevents all of Word's garbage from coming along for the ride. >> >> However, with tables, I will open an .rtf version of the Word doc in Frame >> so as to capture the table and its contents. Then paste that into my new >> Frame doc and use Rick Quatro's TableCleanerES tools to strip the table of >> Word's stuff. (It isn't always 100% clean, but you'll be nearer to where you >> need to be.) Then manually apply Frame's table and character tags. >> >> Graphics: There are many different ways to handle graphics. Personally, I >> find the best way is to copy/paste out of Word and into Adobe Illustrator. >> Then import the .ai file directly into an anchored graphic frame in Frame. >> >> Hope this helps. >> >> Carol >> >> At 09:27 AM 3/11/2019, Richard Melanson wrote: >>> Hi Everyone, >>> >>> I have read over the years numerous ways to get Word docs into FrameMaker. >>> Is there one "best method" out there that everyone agrees is the way to go. >>> >>> I have a 413 page Word 2013 doc with embedded graphics, tables, and >>> anything else you can through into Word. I have been away from Frame for >>> about 6 or 7 years so I have some catching up to do. My company just >>> purchased the Adobe Tech Comm Suite for me, my recommendation, and want me >>> to move ALL the Word stuff, starting with one of the biggest docs. >>> >>> I really appreciate any input you guys through at me as I ramp back up to >>> using Frame again. >>> >>> Thank you. >>> >>> Rick >>> >>> Richard Melanson >>> Technical Writer|HighRes Biosolutions >>> T:781.932.1912x1160|rmelan...@highresbio.com >>> www.highresbio.com??? >>> >>> This e-mail message may contain confidential information and may not be >>> used by anyone but the intended recipient. If you are not the intended >>> recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or dissemination of this >>> message is strictly prohibited. If you received this message in error, >>> please notify HighRes Biosolutions immediately by reply email. Then delete >>> this message from your system. Thank you. >>> ___ >>> >>> This message is from the Framers mailing list >>> >>> Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com >>> Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com >>> Archives located at >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ >>> Subscribe and unsubscribe at >>> http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com >>> Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com >> >> ___ >> >> This message is from the Framers mailing list >> >> Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com >> Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com >> Archives located at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ >> Subscribe and unsubscribe at >> http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com >> Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at
Re: [Framers] Best Method, Word 2013 to Frame 2019.
If everything is tagged as Normal, you can do a find/replace in Word to find specific character formats, such as a specific font size, a certain font, or bold, and replace with a specific style. Word's Find/Replace is very good. To do this, leave the Find box blank. On 11-Mar-19 6:15 PM, Carol J. Elkins wrote: If your Word docs are formatted to use 100% Normal style, then, your only choice is to manually tag every paragraph in Frame. I find it easiest to copy/paste from the Word doc rather than opening the Word doc in Frame. That prevents all of Word's garbage from coming along for the ride. However, with tables, I will open an .rtf version of the Word doc in Frame so as to capture the table and its contents. Then paste that into my new Frame doc and use Rick Quatro's TableCleanerES tools to strip the table of Word's stuff. (It isn't always 100% clean, but you'll be nearer to where you need to be.) Then manually apply Frame's table and character tags. Graphics: There are many different ways to handle graphics. Personally, I find the best way is to copy/paste out of Word and into Adobe Illustrator. Then import the .ai file directly into an anchored graphic frame in Frame. Hope this helps. Carol At 09:27 AM 3/11/2019, Richard Melanson wrote: Hi Everyone, I have read over the years numerous ways to get Word docs into FrameMaker. Is there one "best method" out there that everyone agrees is the way to go. I have a 413 page Word 2013 doc with embedded graphics, tables, and anything else you can through into Word. I have been away from Frame for about 6 or 7 years so I have some catching up to do. My company just purchased the Adobe Tech Comm Suite for me, my recommendation, and want me to move ALL the Word stuff, starting with one of the biggest docs. I really appreciate any input you guys through at me as I ramp back up to using Frame again. Thank you. Rick Richard Melanson Technical Writer|HighRes Biosolutions T:781.932.1912x1160|rmelan...@highresbio.com www.highresbio.com??? This e-mail message may contain confidential information and may not be used by anyone but the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or dissemination of this message is strictly prohibited. If you received this message in error, please notify HighRes Biosolutions immediately by reply email. Then delete this message from your system. Thank you. ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Best Method, Word 2013 to Frame 2019.
If your Word docs are formatted to use 100% Normal style, then, your only choice is to manually tag every paragraph in Frame. I find it easiest to copy/paste from the Word doc rather than opening the Word doc in Frame. That prevents all of Word's garbage from coming along for the ride. However, with tables, I will open an .rtf version of the Word doc in Frame so as to capture the table and its contents. Then paste that into my new Frame doc and use Rick Quatro's TableCleanerES tools to strip the table of Word's stuff. (It isn't always 100% clean, but you'll be nearer to where you need to be.) Then manually apply Frame's table and character tags. Graphics: There are many different ways to handle graphics. Personally, I find the best way is to copy/paste out of Word and into Adobe Illustrator. Then import the .ai file directly into an anchored graphic frame in Frame. Hope this helps. Carol At 09:27 AM 3/11/2019, Richard Melanson wrote: Hi Everyone, I have read over the years numerous ways to get Word docs into FrameMaker. Is there one "best method" out there that everyone agrees is the way to go. I have a 413 page Word 2013 doc with embedded graphics, tables, and anything else you can through into Word. I have been away from Frame for about 6 or 7 years so I have some catching up to do. My company just purchased the Adobe Tech Comm Suite for me, my recommendation, and want me to move ALL the Word stuff, starting with one of the biggest docs. I really appreciate any input you guys through at me as I ramp back up to using Frame again. Thank you. Rick Richard Melanson Technical Writer|HighRes Biosolutions T:781.932.1912x1160|rmelan...@highresbio.com www.highresbio.com??? This e-mail message may contain confidential information and may not be used by anyone but the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or dissemination of this message is strictly prohibited. If you received this message in error, please notify HighRes Biosolutions immediately by reply email. Then delete this message from your system. Thank you. ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Best Method, Word 2013 to Frame 2019.
The import usually isn't an issue because FM has improved the import facility a lot; the reformatting to FM tags is usually the big thing. Rick Quattro's RindChangeFormatsBatch is the best tag and style remapping tool I've found -- highly recommended . Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 11:28 AM Richard Melanson wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I have read over the years numerous ways to get Word docs into FrameMaker. > Is there one "best method" out there that everyone agrees is the way to go. > > I have a 413 page Word 2013 doc with embedded graphics, tables, and > anything else you can through into Word. I have been away from Frame for > about 6 or 7 years so I have some catching up to do. My company just > purchased the Adobe Tech Comm Suite for me, my recommendation, and want me > to move ALL the Word stuff, starting with one of the biggest docs. > > I really appreciate any input you guys through at me as I ramp back up to > using Frame again. > > Thank you. > > Rick > > Richard Melanson > Technical Writer|HighRes Biosolutions > T:781.932.1912x1160|rmelan...@highresbio.com > www.highresbio.com??? > > This e-mail message may contain confidential information and may not be > used by anyone but the intended recipient. If you are not the intended > recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or dissemination of this > message is strictly prohibited. If you received this message in error, > please notify HighRes Biosolutions immediately by reply email. Then delete > this message from your system. Thank you. > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Best Method, Word 2013 to Frame 2019.
There's a couple of ways I recall: - make sure that your source Word files have well-defined styles and match them in FM for best import matching; clean up still required to get images etc. over - copy and paste Word content as text and style accordingly in FM; cleanest method; can be facilitated by setting your maker.ini to put the TEXT paste at the beginning of the string of formats so that a regular Ctl-V paste acts like a paste-special text only paste (saved me a bucket of time) -Original Message- From: Framers On Behalf Of Richard Melanson Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 11:28 AM To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. Subject: [Framers] Best Method, Word 2013 to Frame 2019. Hi Everyone, I have read over the years numerous ways to get Word docs into FrameMaker. Is there one "best method" out there that everyone agrees is the way to go. I have a 413 page Word 2013 doc with embedded graphics, tables, and anything else you can through into Word. I have been away from Frame for about 6 or 7 years so I have some catching up to do. My company just purchased the Adobe Tech Comm Suite for me, my recommendation, and want me to move ALL the Word stuff, starting with one of the biggest docs. I really appreciate any input you guys through at me as I ramp back up to using Frame again. Thank you. Rick Richard Melanson Technical Writer|HighRes Biosolutions T:781.932.1912x1160|rmelan...@highresbio.com www.highresbio.com??? This e-mail message may contain confidential information and may not be used by anyone but the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or dissemination of this message is strictly prohibited. If you received this message in error, please notify HighRes Biosolutions immediately by reply email. Then delete this message from your system. Thank you. ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
[Framers] Best Method, Word 2013 to Frame 2019.
Hi Everyone, I have read over the years numerous ways to get Word docs into FrameMaker. Is there one "best method" out there that everyone agrees is the way to go. I have a 413 page Word 2013 doc with embedded graphics, tables, and anything else you can through into Word. I have been away from Frame for about 6 or 7 years so I have some catching up to do. My company just purchased the Adobe Tech Comm Suite for me, my recommendation, and want me to move ALL the Word stuff, starting with one of the biggest docs. I really appreciate any input you guys through at me as I ramp back up to using Frame again. Thank you. Rick Richard Melanson Technical Writer|HighRes Biosolutions T:781.932.1912x1160|rmelan...@highresbio.com www.highresbio.com??? This e-mail message may contain confidential information and may not be used by anyone but the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or dissemination of this message is strictly prohibited. If you received this message in error, please notify HighRes Biosolutions immediately by reply email. Then delete this message from your system. Thank you. ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
