Re: [Framers] [WTF ramemaker] RE: Anyone know of a way to include a non-breaking hyphen/dash in a variable definition?

2017-10-10 Thread David Spreadbury
I an currently using Framemaker 2015 and use "\+" in many variables. I also 
have many documents in older versions and it works there as well.
 

On Tuesday, October 10, 2017 1:58 PM, "gr...@hedgewizard.net" 
 wrote:
 

   Ctrl+Shift(hyphen)

    On October 10, 2017 at 12:36 PM David Artman 
    wrote:

    How about:
    \x15
    ...or:
    \x2011
    ...?
    \x15 is a VERY old way to do it, but perhaps not hamstrung yet? The
    \x2011 is me guessing at a way the modern Unicode hex value could be
    inserted for interpretation by FM.
    Alternately, type one or insert one using the symbols palette, copy
    it, and see if it pastes into the definition?

    There's GOT to be a way... similarly, thinspace is often a critical
    one, for volatile (or scoped/personalized) measurements and their
    units of measure.

    HTH;
    David

    - Original Message - Subject: Re: [Framers] [WTF
    ramemaker] RE: Anyone know of a way to include a non-breaking
    hyphen/dash in a variable definition?
    From: "Art Campbell" 
    Date: 10/10/17 2:23 pm
    To: "Rick Quatro" 
    Cc: "Framers List"
    , "An email list
    for people using Adobe FrameMaker software."
    

    Nope, that's not it...

    Art Campbell
    ...

    On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 11:44 AM, Rick Quatro 
    wrote:

    Hi Art,

    Try \+ in the dialog box.

    Rick

    Rick Quatro
    ...
    -Original Message-
    Subject: [Framers] Anyone know of a way to include a non-breaking
    hyphen/dash in a variable definition?

    On FM '17
    ...

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Re: [Framers] Link to a specific page in a PDF?

2017-10-03 Thread David Spreadbury
You might want to see if this link might give you the answer:
Create a URL to open a PDF file at a specific page
  
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Create a URL to open a PDF file at a specific page
 How to create a URL to open a PDF file at a specific page.  |  |

  |

 

 

On Tuesday, October 3, 2017 11:55 AM, Robert Lauriston 
 wrote:
 

 If the target PDF may be updated, that could make the link wrong.

You might inspect the PDF in Acrobat Pro and see if there's a named
destination in the appropriate topic.

http://www.adobe.com/content/dam/Adobe/en/devnet/acrobat/pdfs/pdf_open_parameters.pdf

On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 9:33 AM, Moore, Gayle JAG:EX
 wrote:
> To target an HTML link to a specific page in a PDF file, add "#page=[page 
> number]" to the end of the link's URL.
>
> e.g., http://www.example.com/myfile.pdf#page=4;>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers 
> [mailto:framers-bounces+gayle.moore=gov.bc...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf 
> Of Pat Christenson
> Sent: Tuesday, October 3, 2017 09:23
> To: fram...@frameusers.com
> Subject: [Framers] Link to a specific page in a PDF?
>
> Hi -
>
> Is there a way in FrameMaker to link to a specific page in a PDF? The pdf 
> already exists and has been posted so I can't use named destination.
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Re: [Framers] Old FrameMaker books?

2017-10-02 Thread David Spreadbury
Scott,You might want to hang onto that 5.5 book. Once Adobe started creating 
the documentation the Index started going downhill, when compared to the 
original Frame issued books. The original Index was actual usefulI wouldn't 
part with mine unless I had to.
 

On Monday, October 2, 2017 1:54 PM, Scott Prentice  
wrote:
 

 Hi...

I hate to pitch (recycle) this stuff if it's of any use to anyone.

User Guides for FM 7.0, FM 6.0, FM+SGML 6.0, and FM 5.5. All basically 
new and some still in plastic.

Contact me off list if you'd like any or all of these.

Cheers,
...scott


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Re: [Framers] Save as PDF

2017-07-24 Thread David Spreadbury
Not having used the DC version, have you tried creating a postscript file and 
then distilling that, if the DC version even supports creating a postscript 
file?

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 9:56 AM, Austin Meredith wrote:   
  Here's a warning for users of "Save as PDF" -- Adobe has just
  "upgraded" Acrobat Pro DC to 2017.009.20058 and this has rendered the
  images it generates unusably blurry. I am dead in the water, unable to
  render my FM files into PDFs and thus update my online PDFs at
  http://[1]www.kouroo.info. Check this out and, if your new generated
  images have likewise been rendered unusably blurry, please protest. I
  have myself attempted to protest to Adobe, but since my subscription to
  Acrobat is an institutional subscription by way of a university, I do
  not have a personal registration number to offer and therefore there is
  no way for me to get past their "qualifications" people in India, to
  inform the Adobe technical team about this new glitch.

References

  1. http://www.kouroo.info/
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Re: [Framers] Numbering in an outline with numbers and small letters

2017-06-28 Thread David Spreadbury
Try changing where you have F: to a different letter; F for the first one, G 
for the secong, etc. Each numbering value should have it's own unique 
character. There is a name for that character but it escapes me right now.

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 2:11 PM, 
tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com wrote:   This 
one has me stumped, and I have to believe that there is a pretty 
simple solution that I'm overlooking.

I have a figure legend that has both numbered and lettered entries. Level 
1 items are  numerals and Level 2 items are small letters. This works 
fine, as long as the level 2 items are the last items in the ordered list. 
However, if the level 2 items happen to appear in the middle somewhere, 
such as 1, 2, followed by a, b, and c, and then back to level 1 at 3, the 
ordering doesn't pick back at 3. Instead, I get 6, as in 1, 2, a, b, c 
(under 2), and 6.

What do I need to do to have that 3rd level 1 item number continue from 
the last level 1 tag?

For reference, here is what I have for tag coding.

FigureLegend covers all level 1 numbers, as well as all that follow: F:< 
>< >.\t


FigureLegend_alpha covers the first level 2 item, indented slightly under 
the level 1 item: F:< >< >.\sn\t



FIgurelegend_alpa+ covers all level 2 items that follow the item tagged 
with the FigureLegend_alpha tag: F:< >< >.\sn\t





Tom Beiswenger
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Re: [Framers] Text inset links in PDFs in FM 2017 and no updates to purchased version

2017-02-04 Thread David Spreadbury
Tested with FrameMaker 2015
Importing, by reference, a text inset into a FrameMaker file.Text inset had a 
cross reference to a paragraph in another chapter.Created a PDFCross references 
in the PDF worked just fine.The only gotcha would be that the cross-reference 
target must always be present and in the same chapter, otherwise it would have 
to be changed each time. A reference to say a contact page that appears in each 
document and is always in the same chapter, otherwise it will be broken or 
require changing each time.


On Friday, February 3, 2017 2:56 PM, David Spreadbury <dspre...@yahoo.com> 
wrote:
 

 Can't answer your first question right now, but i have a few insets i could 
try and see if it works.

On the other issue, I have purchased version of Framemaker 2015 and you need to 
go to the help menu and select Updates. Frame will go out and see check. If 
there are, Frame will let you know.

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
 On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 2:34 PM, LGLists<li...@techcomplus.com> wrote:  Hi All!

 

I'm posting on behalf of someone else who is contemplating taking on some of
my projects. She's getting info from FM support that I'm a little skeptical
about. Sorry to repeat the one item, but I've not heard back. 

 

 

.      I got this a bit wrong the first time, too. According to FM support,
the bug that caused x-refs from text insets to not be working links in PDFs
was reported in FM 10 and does not now show up on the list of bugs. This
makes is sound like it's been fixed. Has anyone has tested this in FM 2017
to see if links work without having to run a script in FM to get them to
work?




.      She was also told that if you purchased a license (not the monthly
subscription) that you did not get an updates or bug fixes. I know that
didn't used to be true. Is it the case that if you purchase a license
without the monthly subscription that you don't get even bug fixes? No a
point releases? Nothing?

 

 

I appreciate any info you folks can share. I've been out of the loop on the
latest and greatest for a while.

 

Thanks for any info you have on this!!

 

~
Linda G. Gallagher


 

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Re: [Framers] Text inset links in PDFs in FM 2017 and no updates to purchased version

2017-02-03 Thread David Spreadbury
Can't answer your first question right now, but i have a few insets i could try 
and see if it works.

On the other issue, I have purchased version of Framemaker 2015 and you need to 
go to the help menu and select Updates. Frame will go out and see check. If 
there are, Frame will let you know.

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 2:34 PM, LGLists wrote:   Hi 
All!

 

I'm posting on behalf of someone else who is contemplating taking on some of
my projects. She's getting info from FM support that I'm a little skeptical
about. Sorry to repeat the one item, but I've not heard back. 

 

 

.      I got this a bit wrong the first time, too. According to FM support,
the bug that caused x-refs from text insets to not be working links in PDFs
was reported in FM 10 and does not now show up on the list of bugs. This
makes is sound like it's been fixed. Has anyone has tested this in FM 2017
to see if links work without having to run a script in FM to get them to
work?




.      She was also told that if you purchased a license (not the monthly
subscription) that you did not get an updates or bug fixes. I know that
didn't used to be true. Is it the case that if you purchase a license
without the monthly subscription that you don't get even bug fixes? No a
point releases? Nothing?

 

 

I appreciate any info you folks can share. I've been out of the loop on the
latest and greatest for a while.

 

Thanks for any info you have on this!!

 

~
Linda G. Gallagher


 

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Re: [Framers] Hyphenation puzzle

2016-09-26 Thread David Spreadbury
Try Esc, hyphen, h. Thats a non- breaking hyphen.

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 12:29 PM, Monique Semp 
wrote:   >I have a word (e-file) that should never be broken between lines. 
I've 
>tried following the help with no luck. I've even tried adding this word to 
>my personal dictionary but don't have rights to the \user\name\appdata 
>directory.

In such situations, I create a user variable, where I can use the 
non-breaking hyphen. In FrameMaker, one generally inserts a non-breaking 
hyphen with the sequence, esc-hyphen-h. It ends up looking odd in dialog 
boxes for things such as variables, but it always works.

HTH,
-Monique



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Re: [Framers] Windows 10 "hijacked" my computer

2016-04-29 Thread David Spreadbury
Robert,I am running Framemaker2015, with update 3.1, and FrameMaker 12 on 
Windows 10 and haven't found any issues yet.Keeping my fingers crossed .
 

On Friday, April 29, 2016 2:31 PM, Robert Lauriston  
wrote:
 

 Windows 7 64-bit with 8GB, Windows 10 should be relatively smooth,
though some drivers might break. If you're running FrameMaker 2015
with all updates maybe it would work without tweaking. I'd make a full
backup before trying.

FM 2015 update 1 was the first version to officially support Windows
10, and I've read of numerous problems with older versions.

On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 12:10 PM, Robert Lauriston  wrote:
> Yeah, that download thing is evil. Last year I had a PC that started
> acting like it was out of disk space even though Windows showed it
> having 10-15% free. Eventually I discovered that there was a hidden
> directory containing the Windows 10 upgrade installer. Which I had not
> signed up for, and which that PC was perhaps not capable of running.
>
> Which version of Windows are you currently running, is it 32-bit or
> 64-bit, and how much memory do you have?
>
> On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 12:03 PM, Ken Poshedly  wrote:
>> Well, Gang, Windows 10 wants me and it wants me NOW!
>>
>> Some months ago, I signed up for the free offer of Windows 10 for 
>> installation at MY convenience.
>>
>> Early this morning when I check the home desktop, Windows 10 had apparently 
>> self-installed overnight. (I usually leave the platform on all night.)
>>
>> I rebooted and when prompted with the Windows 10 EULA (end-user license 
>> agreement), I declined. Windows 10 said it would then  "reinstall my Windows 
>> 7".
>>
>> I didn't have time to wait for it so I let it do its own thing and left for 
>> my office; I'll see how things played out when I get home tonight.
>>
>> Two questions:
>> 1. Regarding FrameMaker (I'm running FM10), am I facing any operational or 
>> other problems or must I reinstall it? If so, that might be a problem 
>> because I didn't "de-activate" my second license. (One is on the desktop and 
>> one is on a laptop.)
>>
>> 2. Am I facing any general problems with Windows 10?
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Re: [Framers] Strange error when updating Frame document

2016-04-21 Thread David Spreadbury
To answer John's question, Yes. I upgraded and tested by Updating a book and 
did not receive the inconsistent error.
 

On Thursday, April 21, 2016 12:11 PM, John Sgammato 
 wrote:
 

 Does this fix the "book is not consistent" issue?That was introduced in sp3
On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 12:04 PM, Vivek Kumar  wrote:

Dear Framers,

We have released another update 3.1 (13.0.3.495) taking care of issue created 
by update 3. It is available via Help > Updates... menu.
It shall be available shortly on FrameMaker downloads page 
https://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?product=22=Windows

Thanks for your support and patience.

Vivek
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Re: [Framers] Strange error when updating Frame document

2016-04-15 Thread David Spreadbury
Yes, I searched and found this error had existed in earlier versions. This is 
the first time I have seen it and I have been using Frame for 20 years.I tried 
a couple of the hints that were posted, first removing the TOC and Index and 
updating the book. Same error.Rebuilt the TOC and Index, still getting the 
error.It looks like Jeff's response is spot on. An old bug has resurfaced.I 
can't find anything wrong with the book. All cross-references work fine. TOC 
and Index look fine.
Time for Frame to let the test guys loose, after checking what the fix was 
before.
 

On Friday, April 15, 2016 12:29 PM, Jeff Coatsworth 
<jeff.coatswo...@jonasclub.com> wrote:
 

 Chatter on the FM forums is indicating that this is a new bug introduced with 
Patch 3 for FM2015 

-Original Message-
From: Framers 
[mailto:framers-bounces+jeff.coatsworth=jonasclub@lists.frameusers.com] On 
Behalf Of David Spreadbury
Sent: April-15-16 10:03 AM
To: Framers
Subject: [Framers] Strange error when updating Frame document

I recently upgraded to the latest FrameMaker2015 patch.Suddenly I am getting a 
strange unexplained error message:
'Book is not self-consistent'
Our documents are all in Unstructured Frame but I was running in Structured 
mode when I first received this message.I changed to Unstructured mode, 
thinking that might be the cause.I still get the message whenever I Update a 
book.
Does anyone know what this message means?
Thank youDave Spreadbury

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[Framers] Strange error when updating Frame document

2016-04-15 Thread David Spreadbury
I recently upgraded to the latest FrameMaker2015 patch.Suddenly I am getting a 
strange unexplained error message:
'Book is not self-consistent'
Our documents are all in Unstructured Frame but I was running in Structured 
mode when I first received this message.I changed to Unstructured mode, 
thinking that might be the cause.I still get the message whenever I Update a 
book.
Does anyone know what this message means?
Thank youDave Spreadbury

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Re: [Framers] An item for my FM wish list

2016-04-07 Thread David Spreadbury
John,My 69 year old eyes missed it too. My justification for suggesting making 
the file name red also.
 

On Thursday, April 7, 2016 12:52 PM, "john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com" 
 wrote:
 

 My includes and excludes are intermixed. My 62 year old eyes sometimes miss
the red icon

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To:    "framers@lists.frameusers.com" 
Date:    04/07/2016 12:16 PM
Subject:    Re: [Framers] An item for my FM wish list
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I, too, use the Exclude feature in all of my books. Most of my
excluded files are positioned at the end of the book, so my way of
handling this might not work for you if you have excluded files
sprinkled throughout the files in your book. I create a Folder at the
bottom of the book and put all of my excluded files in it. I can
expand and collapse the folder to hide its contents. Framemaker
colors the icon for excluded files and folders red, so it is fairly
easy to spot them.

Carol

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>My wish list...for items I have marked Exclude, I'd like to have the
option
>to  collapse or hide the Excluded so they don't show.

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Re: [Framers] An item for my FM wish list

2016-04-07 Thread David Spreadbury
Carol,Never noticed that it turns the file icon red. If it also changed the 
file name red would be great.Thank you for pointing out at least one way to 
visually pick out excluded files.
 

On Thursday, April 7, 2016 11:15 AM, Carol J. Elkins 
 wrote:
 

 I, too, use the Exclude feature in all of my books. Most of my 
excluded files are positioned at the end of the book, so my way of 
handling this might not work for you if you have excluded files 
sprinkled throughout the files in your book. I create a Folder at the 
bottom of the book and put all of my excluded files in it. I can 
expand and collapse the folder to hide its contents. Framemaker 
colors the icon for excluded files and folders red, so it is fairly 
easy to spot them.

Carol

At 09:05 AM 4/7/2016, john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com wrote:
>My wish list...for items I have marked Exclude, I'd like to have the option
>to  collapse or hide the Excluded so they don't show.

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Re: [Framers] An item for my FM wish list

2016-04-07 Thread David Spreadbury
I don't use it extensively, yet, but can see where it will be.in common use.
Maybe just change the color of the entry in the book file list to Red, or go 
all out and make it a where the user can configure a color? 

On Thursday, April 7, 2016 10:06 AM, "john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com" 
 wrote:
 

 I use the Book > Exclude option extensively  (please don't try to tell me
why this is a bad idea).

My wish list...for items I have marked Exclude, I'd like to have the option
to  collapse or hide the Excluded so they don't show.

I'd even pay a reasonable amount ($35?) for an ExtendScript.

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Re: [Framers] bug in FM2015 search/replace

2016-02-20 Thread David Spreadbury
One workaround would be to enable 'smart spaces', then the issueof double 
spaces won't happen.Dave
 

On Saturday, February 20, 2016 8:40 AM, Austin Meredith 
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   BEWARE: There's a bug or gotcha in FM2015's search/replace. When it
  encounters a double space and asks if you want this double space
  replaced with a single space, it eats the final letter off the previous
  word! In my instance, "raceme[space][space][m-dash]" was made into
  "racem[space][m-dash]".
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[Framers] FrameMaker Upgrades

2016-02-01 Thread David Spreadbury
Has anyone heard rumors of a FrameMaker 2016 coming out this year?We're running 
FrameMaker 12 and looking at upgrading to FrameMaker 2015, but if there is a 
2016 version coming out in the next fewmonths we might as well wait.Thanks

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Re: [Framers] Framemaker Training

2016-02-01 Thread David Spreadbury
Try doing a Google search. It should give you a list of places that provide 
FrameMaker training.I jsut did one and got 416,000 hits.You should be able to 
whittle the list down to FrameMaker version and locale.
 

On Monday, February 1, 2016 1:14 PM, Robert Lauriston 
 wrote:
 

 No idea. The best place to ask is probably the framers mailing list.

http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com

On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 9:53 AM,   wrote:
> I need training of Framemaker ASAP
> Can you help?
>
> Cheryl
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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker Upgrades

2016-02-01 Thread David Spreadbury
So it looks like the best answer, or best guess answer, sounds like Jan 2017.I 
thank everyone who responded. 

Dave Spreadbury
 

On Monday, February 1, 2016 4:02 PM, Bernard Aschwanden (Publishing 
Smarter) <bern...@publishingsmarter.com> wrote:
 

 However... The timing of releases historically has been about 18 months or
so between them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_FrameMaker#Versions

If you check the last release you see June 2015, so **IF** (that is a
massive IF statement) that 18-ish months holds up it's unlikely anything is
happening before December of 2016 for the next one.


FrameMaker 10
Released January, 2011

Framemaker 11 
Released July 2012.

Framemaker 12 
Released January 2014.

FrameMaker 2015 Release 
Released June 2015.


Right Scott? ;)

I mean... I can't say.

Bernard





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Sent: February 1, 2016 4:44 PM
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Subject: Re: [Framers] FrameMaker Upgrades

Anyone who really knows .. can't say.

The best way to keep up on that is to sign up for the prerelease program.
You can typically go to http://prerelease.adobe.com and complete the
application .. but when I look now don't see FrameMaker or TCS on the list.
Perhaps contact "your" Adobe rep?

...scott


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Re: FM12 questions

2015-06-22 Thread David Spreadbury
Ken,I have used the Packaging option in FM 12 and find it to function exactly 
as Bruce Fosters Archive.As far as pricing goes, you best bet to to query the 
Adobe website.Dave Spreadbury
 


 On Monday, June 22, 2015 10:24 AM, Ken Poshedly poshe...@bellsouth.net 
wrote:
   

 Questions for all you FrameMaker 12 users out there.
1. Is it true that Adobe has officially built (incorporated) into FM 12 a 
stable, accurate book archiving feature (so well-done by the late Bruce Foster 
through FM 8)?

2. If so, how well does it function? We at my company use FM 11 along with the 
third-party book archiving script for FM9 and later made available after Mr. 
Foster's passing, and have consistent problems with how this script creates two 
copies of each FM chapter file (one in the main folder and another in the book 
Insets folder) with almost all external (chapter-to-chapter) x-refs broken so 
that pdf files generated from books archived using this script also have broken 
external x-refs.

3. What is the upgrade price for we who use FM 11?
Thanks in advance,
-- Ken in Atlanta

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Re: Importing clear, sharp images

2015-06-17 Thread David Spreadbury
And why even bring photoshop into the picture? SnagIt will capture and save as 
PNG directly. That will give you the same quality of captures as what the 
reader would see on the screen.No additional work required except possible 
resizing of screens that are larger than the image area of the document. 


 On Wednesday, June 17, 2015 6:19 PM, John Sgammato 
john.sgamm...@actifio.com wrote:
   

 SnagIt is up to v12. It has many excellent new features. I consider it an 
essential tool of my trade. It is remarkably inexpensive for what it does for 
me every day. I would definitely upgrade. 
On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 7:09 PM, Tim Pann tp...@telecomsys.com wrote:

By the way, I'm using version 7 of SnagIt. Is there any reason in the current 
or any other context that I should spend the money to get the latest version?


From: Tim Pann
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 4:06 PM
To: Robert Lauriston; framers
Subject: RE: Importing clear, sharp images

For the PSD images I capture (SnagIt) the thing on the screen to clipboard and 
copy directly into Photoshop. So the source is definitely good.


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To: framers
Subject: Re: Importing clear, sharp images

Are the PSD documents degraded in PDFs or only on screen in FrameMaker?

If the former, I'd say export to PNG. Resizing in FrameMaker by
changing DPI has no effect on image resolution.

On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Tim Pann tp...@telecomsys.com wrote:
 I'm using Frame 9 on Windows 7. And my apologies if this has been covered
 and answered.

 Can anyone point me toward a good resource (or just tell me if it's quick)
 for understanding how to get nice sharp images imported by reference in
 FrameMaker? I'm working on a doc right now in which I'm mostly importing PSD
 files. They're all screen captures of a user interface. I have to resize
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Re: Importing clear, sharp images

2015-06-17 Thread David Spreadbury
SnagIt can do all those things but not with the same flexibility one can get 
from using Illustrator, especially layers.
Secondly, when you export the file from illustrator to PSD, when you open it in 
Photoshop, why not use  the File  Save as Web function and specify PNG as the 
converted output. You can specify a specific resolution on the Illustrator 
export and Photoshop will retain that dpi al the way to the PNG. I do this all 
the time but create GIFs.
I have even tried the Save as Web from Illustrator, but it doesn't play well 
which is strange. Both Adobe products, both creating web-ready graphics. One 
works (PhotoShop), the other doesn't (Illustrator). I would think the same code 
could be used in both instances. 
 


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 Several reasons to use Photoshop: 1) I add additional things to the pictures, 
like arrows and labels and callouts and circles and highlights etc., which I 
often generate in Illustrator; much easier to move these elements around when 
they reside on their own layer. 2) I generally make changes to things as I go. 
For both, it's nice to just change the PS image and hit save. Imported graphic 
updates automatically, I don't have to re-save in another format, etc.
From: David Spreadbury [dspre...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 4:27 PM
To: John Sgammato; Tim Pann
Cc: framers
Subject: Re: Importing clear, sharp images

And why even bring photoshop into the picture? SnagIt will capture and save as 
PNG directly. That will give you the same quality of captures as what the 
reader would see on the screen.No additional work required except possible 
resizing of screens that are larger than the image area of the document.


On Wednesday, June 17, 2015 6:19 PM, John Sgammato john.sgamm...@actifio.com 
wrote:


SnagIt is up to v12. It has many excellent new features. I consider it an 
essential tool of my trade. It is remarkably inexpensive for what it does for 
me every day. I would definitely upgrade. 
On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 7:09 PM, Tim Pann tp...@telecomsys.com wrote:

By the way, I'm using version 7 of SnagIt. Is there any reason in the current 
or any other context that I should spend the money to get the latest version?


From: Tim Pann
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 4:06 PM
To: Robert Lauriston; framers
Subject: RE: Importing clear, sharp images

For the PSD images I capture (SnagIt) the thing on the screen to clipboard and 
copy directly into Photoshop. So the source is definitely good.


From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] on behalf of Robert Lauriston 
[rob...@lauriston.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 3:18 PM
To: framers
Subject: Re: Importing clear, sharp images

Are the PSD documents degraded in PDFs or only on screen in FrameMaker?

If the former, I'd say export to PNG. Resizing in FrameMaker by
changing DPI has no effect on image resolution.

On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Tim Pann tp...@telecomsys.com wrote:
 I'm using Frame 9 on Windows 7. And my apologies if this has been covered
 and answered.

 Can anyone point me toward a good resource (or just tell me if it's quick)
 for understanding how to get nice sharp images imported by reference in
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Re: FrameMaker 12 XSLT Version

2015-06-10 Thread David Spreadbury
Rick,According to the Using FrameMaker 12, page 481:FrameMaker includes an 
XSLT processor that allows you to associate an XSLT file with an XML structure 
application or XML document, and apply the transformations defined in that 
document when importing from or exporting to XML. FrameMaker supports W3C XSLT 
1.0 recommendations. You can Upgrade to Saxon 2.0 processor by editing the 
maker.ini file.
 


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_filtered #yiv6394661982 {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}#yiv6394661982 
div.yiv6394661982WordSection1 {}--Hello Framers,  When using XSLT on XML 
import/export in FrameMaker, can I use XSLT 2.0 or is the processor limited to 
1.0? Thanks.  Rick  Rick QuatroCarmen Publishing 
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Re: FrameMaker 12 XSLT Version

2015-06-10 Thread David Spreadbury
Rick,I missed this other reference:
The output is created using a parser installed on the machine and registered 
with FrameMaker through maker.ini settings. XALAN and SAXON are installed by 
default on your machine with FrameMaker. XALAN supports XSLT 1.0 and SAXON 
supports XSLT 2.0. Both XALAN and SAXON are JAXP compliant.
Since Saxon is included, it just might be possible to use XSLT 1.0 and/or 2,0. 
YMMV 


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 Rick,According to the Using FrameMaker 12, page 481:FrameMaker includes an 
XSLT processor that allows you to associate an XSLT file with an XML structure 
application or XML document, and apply the transformations defined in that 
document when importing from or exporting to XML. FrameMaker supports W3C XSLT 
1.0 recommendations. You can Upgrade to Saxon 2.0 processor by editing the 
maker.ini file.
 


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Framers,  When using XSLT on XML import/export in FrameMaker, can I use XSLT 
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Re: Adobe announces FrameMaker (2015 Release)

2015-06-02 Thread David Spreadbury
Packaging is in FrameMaker 12. Some of the other new features will be very 
welcome.
Dave 


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{}#yiv6664431034 Yeah. The upgrade price of $399 still seems like a non-starter 
to me unfortunately … but I have been railing about this for a while now.  
Means that I will continue my “all new documents are in LaTeX, old documents 
edited in FrameMaker” approach. And transition the update work to LaTeX too …  
I am really pleased with LaTeX so far (for my documentation needs! YMMV!)   Z  
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Subject: Adobe announces FrameMaker (2015 Release)  Adobe has announced the new 
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12.  http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker.html  RegardsKeith  --Keith 
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Re: Text insets : if in same FM document more than once internal x-refs do not update

2015-05-24 Thread David Spreadbury
Stephen.The xref is pointing to a specific ID assigned to it, so each time it 
is called it will always link to that xref.To accomplish what you are 
attempting I believe you would need three unique insets, each referring to the 
respective illustration.If all three are in the same chapter why not insert it 
the first time and then reference the section containing the first inset in the 
other instances?
Dave Spreadbury 


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1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}#yiv2619748798 div.yiv2619748798WordSection1 {}--Hi,    
Have you seen this? I have a text inset that I insert into the same host 
document (chpt 3) three times. It has an internal cross-reference to a figure. 
When I update the host document the cross-references in the text insets all 
show the same Figure #. Instead of seeing see Fig. 3.1 and later seeFig. 3.2, 
they all show see Fig 3.1.    The FM knowledgebase does say that a document’s 
external cross-references do not update correctly if the document targeted by 
the cross-reference is opened by a different user on the network.    I still 
don’t quite get it.    Your comments are appreciated,    Stephen O'BRIEN
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Re: Text insets : if in same FM document more than once internal x-refs do not update

2015-05-24 Thread David Spreadbury
Craog's suggestion is also valid if each inset is referencing the same 
illustration imported three times.I would either insert the text inset once, as 
I mentioned earlier, or if Craig is correct, then import the illustration just 
one time. 


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{}#yiv1053685084 Thx Dave – the cloud has lifted!    Have a good day!    
Stephen O'BRIEN
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Envoyé : Sunday, May 24, 2015 11:45 AM
À : Stephen O'Brien; Frame Users (framers@lists.frameusers.com)
Objet : Re: Text insets : if in same FM document more than once internal x-refs 
do not update    Stephen. The xref is pointing to a specific ID assigned to it, 
so each time it is called it will always link to that xref. To accomplish what 
you are attempting I believe you would need three unique insets, each referring 
to the respective illustration. If all three are in the same chapter why not 
insert it the first time and then reference the section containing the first 
inset in the other instances? 

 Dave Spreadbury       On Sunday, May 24, 2015 10:23 AM, Stephen O'Brien 
sobr...@innovmetric.com wrote:    Hi,   Have you seen this? I have a text 
inset that I insert into the same host document (chpt 3) three times. It has an 
internal cross-reference to a figure. When I update the host document the 
cross-references in the text insets all show the same Figure #. Instead of 
seeingsee Fig. 3.1 and later seeFig. 3.2, they all showsee Fig 3.1.   The FM 
knowledgebase does say that a document’s external cross-references do not 
update correctly if the document targeted by the cross-reference is opened by a 
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Re: PDF problems

2015-05-21 Thread David Spreadbury
I suggested that the printer provide more details on the problem because it 
would appear that their rendering engine doesn't like something...duh... 
similar to what Distiller does when it encounters an error. Since Alan doesn't 
get an error when distilling, he would not be able to do more than he has done 
without some more specific feedback.
 


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wrote:
   

  This is a vexing type of problem. It may be a non-obvious corrupt graphic or 
other object. I recommend divide and conquer, either in FrameMaker 12 or in 
Acrobat.
 
 - Split the file in half.
 - Identify the half-file that produces the error.
 - Split the error-prone half-file again.
 - Repeat until you've identified the page/object that is causing the error.
 
 As David Spreadbury suggests, if the printer can tell you the page that 
invokes the failure, start looking there.
 
 -Alan
 
 Alan Houser
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Consultant and Trainer, Technical Publishing
arh on Twitter
412-450-0532 On 5/21/15 9:21 AM, Alan Salo (Ariens Plant 1) wrote:
  
 
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{font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}#yiv2191599320 
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1.0in 1.0in;}#yiv2191599320 div.yiv2191599320WordSection1 {}#yiv2191599320  
Hello all,    I have a problem that is perplexing me.  There are two PDF files 
that our printer cannot compose to get them on the press. They say that the 
files are unsupported file type or damaged.    As background we send numerous 
files to them weekly, all using the same process with no issues. It’s just 
these two. I get no error messages or anything unusual when I update the books. 
   They are English/French and Spanish versions of the same manual, so share 
the same graphics. One is 58 pages and the other 32; not huge files. There are 
five conditions in the books. All but two are turned off.    All graphics are 
referenced; tif and eps. I’ve gone through the manuals and opened and resaved 
every graphic but that did not help.    We create in FM12, generate a 
postscript file and then distill that to a pdf using Acrobat distiller.    Any 
troubleshooting suggestions would be appreciated!    Alan 
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Re: PDF problems

2015-05-21 Thread David Spreadbury
Alan,I would ask them if they could be a little more specific on when the 
problem occurs.I would expect that the print job is stopping on a specific 
page.Knowing that you can zero in on the page that is actually causing the 
problem.
 


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as...@ariens.com wrote:
   

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15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}#yiv1043671605 #yiv1043671605 p.yiv1043671605MsoNormal, 
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div.yiv1043671605MsoNormal 
{margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri, 
sans-serif;}#yiv1043671605 a:link, #yiv1043671605 
span.yiv1043671605MsoHyperlink 
{color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv1043671605 a:visited, #yiv1043671605 
span.yiv1043671605MsoHyperlinkFollowed 
{color:purple;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv1043671605 
span.yiv1043671605EmailStyle17 {font-family:Calibri, 
sans-serif;color:#1F497D;}#yiv1043671605 .yiv1043671605MsoChpDefault 
{font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;} _filtered #yiv1043671605 {margin:1.0in 
1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}#yiv1043671605 div.yiv1043671605WordSection1 {}--Hello all, 
   I have a problem that is perplexing me.  There are two PDF files that our 
printer cannot compose to get them on the press. They say that the files are 
unsupported file type or damaged.    As background we send numerous files to 
them weekly, all using the same process with no issues. It’s just these two. I 
get no error messages or anything unusual when I update the books.    They are 
English/French and Spanish versions of the same manual, so share the same 
graphics. One is 58 pages and the other 32; not huge files. There are five 
conditions in the books. All but two are turned off.    All graphics are 
referenced; tif and eps. I’ve gone through the manuals and opened and resaved 
every graphic but that did not help.    We create in FM12, generate a 
postscript file and then distill that to a pdf using Acrobat distiller.    Any 
troubleshooting suggestions would be appreciated!    Alan 
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Re: How can I display Para Formats list

2015-04-29 Thread David Spreadbury
John,The same menu options will open the Paragraph Catalog all the way back to 
FM7.2. 
The catalog will remain open until you manually close it or Frame.Dave 
Spreadbury
 


 On Wednesday, April 29, 2015 10:18 AM, Abungu, Salome 
sabu...@tycoint.com wrote:
   

 If you're using FrameMaker 12, then add the paragraph catalog to the pod. 
Click Format  Paragraphs  Catalog. It will be automatically added to the pod. 
Thereafter, if you want the catalog list to always stay open, right click the 
pod and deselect Auto-Collapse Iconic Pods. When you are done, click on the 
paragraph catalog pod to close it.

You may be able to follow the same process in other versions of FrameMaker (9+).

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Hi, guys...I'm doing some reformat-intensive work and I find myself pressing F9 
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the list goes away.

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Re: HELP

2015-04-24 Thread David Spreadbury
Linda, 
Just go to http://groups.yahoo.com/ and log in. You will see a list of all the 
groups you are a member of using that email address. 

Since frameusers is not a Yahoo group, you shouldgo to 
http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/listinfo/framers, log in and change your 
mail delivery.
 


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{margin:72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt;}#yiv3444060434 
div.yiv3444060434WordSection1 {}#yiv3444060434 Sorry Linda, there’s no forum on 
this mailing list (AFAIK) – you can get posts sent in digest format (less 
frequent delivery) or in detail. If you’re looking for forums on FM, head on 
over to the Adobe ones.    From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
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careful NOT to choose this action. And HOW do I get to the actual forum??? No 
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Re: Comparing paragraph and character formats inside files of a book?

2015-04-24 Thread David Spreadbury
You can always save the files, or the suspect files, out as MIF and then 
compare them using a text editor; i.e., Notepad++ or TextPad. That will display 
any differences.
Dave Spreadbury
 


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srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com wrote:
   

  On 2015-Apr-24 2:06 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) wrote:
  
 
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6 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv0479578673 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 
3 2 4;}#yiv0479578673 #yiv0479578673 p.yiv0479578673MsoNormal, #yiv0479578673 
li.yiv0479578673MsoNormal, #yiv0479578673 div.yiv0479578673MsoNormal 
{margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt;}#yiv0479578673 a:link, 
#yiv0479578673 span.yiv0479578673MsoHyperlink 
{color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv0479578673 a:visited, #yiv0479578673 
span.yiv0479578673MsoHyperlinkFollowed 
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1.0in 1.0in;}#yiv0479578673 div.yiv0479578673WordSection1 {}#yiv0479578673   
Hi, all.    I did a bit of looking and am not sure I see an answer for a 
concern that I have.    In one of my books that I created and have edited over 
the years, it is possible that some of the paragraph and character format 
definitions (and possibly the color definitions, and reference pages too) are 
no longer consistent in every file of that book.    Meaning that I am not sure 
if paragraph format “XYZ” in one of the files is necessarily identical to the 
same format “XYZ” in another one of the files. Probably close, but not sure if 
they are identical. It is also possible that some file may have had a format 
added/removed/edited because it is only used within that file only (like a 
content list format or something).    Is there a way to compare/list/report 
(whatever) all the formats in the files to see where the inconsistencies are? 
At least, so that I can take one of the file and apply its formats to all the 
other files and not break things too much?    
   
 Silicon Prairie's paragraph and character tools will produce the reports you 
ask about. With a little manipulation, you should be able to use FM or Acrobat 
to compare files to find any differences in definitions.
 
 HTH,
 -- 
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Re: What FM plugin suite give the most bang?

2015-04-23 Thread David Spreadbury
Not to disparage Framescript or Rick but File  Package does what Bruce Fosters 
Archive did and EZTools  Clean Import can clean up a document, or all chapters 
in a book very nicely/
 


 On Thursday, April 23, 2015 1:59 PM, Rick Quatro r...@rickquatro.com 
wrote:
   

 Hi John,

As you know, I am a big fan of scripting. FrameMaker 11 has ExtendScript
built in, so one clandestine way of adding productivity to FrameMaker
without plugins is to learn to write some scripts. ExtendScript is basically
Adobe's version of JavaScript on top of FrameMaker's object model. If you
don't want to write them yourself, you can purchase them from others. And
because scripts are compiled at runtime, you usually get the source code so
you can reuse parts and pieces in your own scripts. Your learning will make
things a longer term effort, but it sounds like your procurement process
takes time anyway, so you may as well be adding to your skill set as you
learn.

I am doing an Adobe Webinar next Wednesday on ExtendScript in FrameMaker. If
you have a particular task in mind and attend the webinar, I will make sure
you get the script at no cost, or in exchange for a small donation to the
Roswell Cancer Center in Buffalo. I welcome some good ideas for scripts that
I can demonstrate. Please let me know if you have any questions or comments.
Thank you very much.

Rick

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
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Hi, guys...I'm using FM11 unstructured and I maintain quite a large document
set...10 books of 2,000 pages each give or take.

Because of the amount of time I spend on housekeeping, I'm ready to take a
stab at adding plugins that will save me time. In addition, I may be
bringing in a team of 3-4 writers and I want the files to be as clean as
possible. When you evolve to 20,000 pages of document from an initial 195
pages in 2 years, ya get careless at times.

Now...I'm in a very locked down environment, so I know I'm in for a
battle...this very well can be a 3-6 month project and I may loose.

Money is no object. I was able to easily justify a $500 application just to
check broken links (3 bullet points in an email) , but it took 4 months to
work through the process from request to license.

So...if I was to try to put together a shopping list together with as many
plugin components in as few different products as possible, what should that
be?

Thanks

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Re: FrameMaker and SharePoint

2015-04-09 Thread David Spreadbury
Has anyone looked at or tried Microsoft Visual Studio - Source Control 
Explorer.The company I am with has adopted Visual Studio as a CMS and it seems 
to work fine with FrameMaker 12. 


 On Thursday, April 9, 2015 12:58 PM, Scott Turner qui...@airmail.net 
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 SharePoint also has storage capacity issues. It is not a fully capable CVS, it 
is better at content management. These are are two distinct and separate 
functions. SharePoint is a sow's ear wanting to be a silk purse as far as CVS 
functions are concerned. 


 On Apr 8, 2015, at 12:58, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote:
 
 There's no benefit to integration with a system that can't handle your 
 projects.
 
 A lot of SharePoint's claimed capabilities are implemented more as
 proofs of concept than to meet the actual requirements of real-world
 use. The 100-file limit tells me that revision control is one of
 those.
 
 On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Michael Norton mnor...@openspan.com wrote:
 ... I can see some benefit in being able to check in and check out files
 directly from Frame and also update dependent files. With our current system
 (which is very old) everything is manual.
 
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Controlling FrameMaker automatic link generation

2015-04-02 Thread David Spreadbury
Dan,If you enter the URI with your address (a URI scheme name (such as "http", 
"ftp", "mailto", "crid" or "file") followed by a colon character) with all of 
your links in Frame , Acrobat should recognize them as links when you produce 
your PDF.Examples: http://{address}?or mailto:{address}, etc.
David Spreadbury 


 On Thursday, April 2, 2015 2:37 PM, "Harding, Dan"  wrote:


  Version: FrameMaker 12, Unstructured.  ? When generating 
PDFs, Frame automatically converts (SOME!) URLs to hyperlinks, which is great, 
but it?s not an exact science, and I?d like to be able to fine tune some things 
globally rather than manually inserting and editing a zillion hypertext links:  
? 1.??Frame recognizeswww. (without an http:// prefix) as a URL and 
converts it to a link. Fine. Spiffy. How do I get it to automatically recognize 
non-www domains, e.g. bit.ly, tinyurl.com, etc.? Where is this automatic 
conversion controlled?

 2.??Our formatting is such that we put urls in brackets, e.g., 
[www.fubar.com]. Problem: Frame automatically appends the closing bracket to 
the URL when creating the link, which of course breaks the link. Only the 
opening bracket, not the opening bracket. Adding a space, e.g., [www.fubar.com 
] does not fix the problem.

 3.??If I wanted to disable automatic link conversion in creation of the 
PDF (yet maintain conversion of manually created hypertext markers), where and 
how would I do this?

 Thanks,  ? -Dan 
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Re: Table Continuation Variable issue

2015-04-01 Thread David Spreadbury
Tammy,Don't know if this will work, or not, but have you tried placing a return 
(\n) between the title and the Continued variable?You might need two 
backslashes (\\n).Example: Table 1 This and That\\n(variable)Or create a second 
variable, Table Continued Long, and include the \\n there.Worth a try. YMMV. 


 On Wednesday, April 1, 2015 2:37 PM, Tammy Van Boening 
tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com wrote:
   

  Table Continuation Variable issueFM 10, all patched, Win7, x64. When I add 
the  Continued variable to a table title, I expect that it should wrap the 
title text onto the next page because the variable makes the title too long  
for one line. It won’t do that. It will just make one line of text and then cut 
anything off that would have gone to the next line, so the continuation 
variable isn't displayed. I have tried mucking around with the Right indent 
setting in the Paragraph Designer for the TableTitle tag, but although this 
solves the problem for the one nuisance table title, it artificially forces all 
the other table titles to wrap and become a two-line title, when one line will 
hold the entire tag, including the Continued variable, so these TableTitle tags 
look funky.I am stymied.Thanks!TVBTammy Van BoeningOwner/PrincipalSpectrum 
Writing, LLCwww.spectrumwritingllc.comTammyVB  *AT*  spectrumwritingllc  *DOT*  
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Re: Table Continuation Variable issue

2015-04-01 Thread David Spreadbury
Personally I would go for the new variable option, if the \n, or \\n, works. 
That way you can use either variable as the situation warrants. 


 On Wednesday, April 1, 2015 3:11 PM, Alan Litchfield 
a...@alphabyte.co.nz wrote:
   

 Hi Tammy

I think David had it right with the \n. Does that make a difference?

Regards
Alan

On 2/04/15 9:02 am, Tammy Van Boening wrote:
 Hi Alan,

 So, I entered by text for the TableTitle tag, pressed Shift/Enter in the
 first instance of the title, and then inserted the Table Continuation tag.
 It wraps the title, yes, but in the first instance, it wraps it and
 therefore, although the Continuation variable doesn't display, there is an
 extra line now between the table title and the table. As you scroll through
 the table, then the continued variable is displayed by itself in the second
 line. So, I just moved the location of the soft return to before the last
 word in the title, and OK, it looks a bit funky in the first occurrence, but
 it's doable.

 I appreciate the prompt replies from you and David, but what on earth is
 preventing this from wrapping as expected anyway?

 Thanks!

 TVB

 Tammy Van Boening
 Owner/Principal
 Spectrum Writing, LLC
 www.spectrumwritingllc.com
 TammyVB  *AT*  spectrumwritingllc  *DOT*  com


 -Original Message-
 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Alan Litchfield
 Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 1:53 PM
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Re: Table Continuation Variable issue

 Long time since I had that one.

 IIRC I inserted a discretionary/soft return into the first instance of the
 title. When it gets to the repeated title it should break at that point.

 Since writing, David provided the same idea with \n.

 Alan

 On 2/04/15 8:36 am, Tammy Van Boening wrote:
 FM 10, all patched, Win7, x64.

 When I addthe Continued variableto a table title, I expect thatit
 should wrap the title text ontothe next page because thevariable
 makesthe titletoo longfor one line. It won't do that. It will just
 make one line of text and then cut anything off that would have gone
 to the nextline, so the continuation variable isn't displayed. I have
 tried mucking around with the Right indent setting in the Paragraph
 Designer for the TableTitle tag, but although this solves the problem
 for the one nuisance table title, it artificially forces all the other
 table titles to wrap and become a two-line title, when one line will
 hold the entire tag, including the Continued variable, so these TableTitle
 tags look funky.

 I am stymied.

 Thanks!

 TVB

 Tammy Van Boening

 Owner/Principal

 Spectrum Writing, LLC

 www.spectrumwritingllc.com

 TammyVB  *AT*  spectrumwritingllc  *DOT*  com



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Re: Frame vs. Flare for My Needs

2015-02-25 Thread David Spreadbury
Have you given Mif2Go a try at converting your Frame docs to Word?You use it 
now for HTML, it will also handle Word conversions.
Dave Spreadbury 

 On Wednesday, February 25, 2015 2:23 PM, Kevin Ryan 
kevin.r...@systemsandsoftware.net wrote:
   

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{margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}#yiv8354266681 div.yiv8354266681WordSection1 
{}--Hi, I could use the advice of some Frame veterans on whether a switch from 
Frame to Flare might be a delusion-inspired wrong turn for me, or possibly the 
right way to go.   My company's primary documentation output is PDF 
user/training/reference guides authored on FrameMaker 7. Not the current Frame 
version, I know, but sufficient with our good templates to produce solid, 
professional-looking documents we're proud of. Other current deliverables 
include context-sensitive HTML topics produced via Mif2go and a limited number 
of Process Assistance MS Word topics.  These latter are a sort of MS-Word 
help equivalent that our customers can download from our application, edit if 
necessary, and even upload back into our application for others if they want 
to. I create Process Assistance MS-Word topics by cutting from Frame and 
pasting into Word, followed by manual reformatting (ouch).  Our customers 
(utilities) have been requesting another MS Word output:  Editable MS Word 
versions of our 20-300 page PDF manuals so that they can edit them for their 
own purposes (such as internal training).  Unfortunately, we've been unable to 
find a workable Frame-to-Word conversion process to this end.  I can do manual 
reformatting to Word in our short Process Assistance topics, but to do it on 
entire manuals would give me a nervous breakdown. So, with better MS-Word 
output generation as my primary goal, I've been considering a switch to Flare. 
Its capability to output in PDF, Word, and HTML seems as though it might 
ultimately streamline our processes. As I test Flare by my 30-day trial, 
though, I'm reminded of the many things FrameMaker does really well — things I 
might be losing if I made the switch:  For example, precise page layouts, 
complex graphics, robust tables. To its credit, Flare seems to offer output 
versatility, excellent documentation and support, and a lot of Marketing 
momentum.  Am I misguiding myself?  Barking up the wrong tree?   Thanks for any 
opinions or comments. Kevin RyanTechnical WriterSystems  Software, Inc.426 
Industrial AvenueSuite 140Williston, VT 05495802.865.1170
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Re: How do you type a dash em in FM12

2015-02-24 Thread David Spreadbury
Tom,An em dash in Frame is ctrl+q Shift+qAn en dash is ctrl+q Shift+p
The FrameMaker 12 User Guide has a table of all the keystrokes for inserting 
special characters on page 664. 

 On Tuesday, February 24, 2015 11:09 AM, tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com 
tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com wrote:
   

 In earlier versions of Word, when you typed2 hyphens (--) it would 
automatically convert to a dash em. Is there anyway to do the same or similar 
in FM12? 




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Re: User interface view option customization

2015-02-24 Thread David Spreadbury
Do a search for framemaker_11_ini_reference (without the quotes or go to 
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/ini/framemaker_11_ini_reference.pdf.There
 are a couple settings listed in this document that might do just what you are 
looking for.Dave 

 On Tuesday, February 24, 2015 1:02 PM, Jeff Coatsworth 
jeff.coatswo...@jonasclub.com wrote:
   

 I thought it was stored in the document - Klaus Daube may have something in 
his explorations of the maker.ini that sheds some light for you.

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Steve Rickaby
Sent: February-24-15 1:36 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: User interface view option customization

I am still feeling the pain of transition from FrameMaker 7 on Mac to the sunny 
uplands (maybe) of FrameMaker 12. But it does give me access to customization 
via the maker.ini file that was not possible on Mac. 

I have searched - oh how I have searched - for a setting that controls the 
default view of a document when it is opened (100%, set window to page and so 
on). I even found the INI documentation for FrameMaker 11, but no joy.

Does anyone know - is this configurable? I find myself correcting the view 
every time I open a document, and it's getting tiresome.

-- 
Steve 
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Re: FM12: PDF file size exploding

2015-02-17 Thread David Spreadbury
Lin,I just tested your issue opening a 12 page text only structured FM7.2 file 
and saving it as FM12.Did nothing more than open the FM7.2 in FM12 and then 
save it as a FM12 document.Printed FM12 version using Acro XI Adobe PDF 
driver.Distilled postscript to PDF.FM7.2 file size=358KB Acro 8 PDF=207KBFM12 
file size=8630KB Acro XI PDF=278KBThis was one chapter of a 30+ chapter 
book.The Acro8 PDF of the book is 3025KB.I can open and update all the 
chapters, but with only 70KB increase in one chapter, I would expect a slight 
increase in the book, but nothing like you are experiencing.
Dave

  On Tuesday, February 17, 2015 11:18 AM, Lin Sims ljsims...@gmail.com wrote:
  

 The PDF has to be posted as a shared review on a cloud web storage site. 
There's a size limit to what you can upload. My company is using corporate 
GMAIL and I have a 30Gb limit on storage, and for now I have to attach a shared 
review enabled PDF to an email to allow reviewers to join the review*. 
Admittedly, this one file isn't going to break either of those limits, but it's 
not something I can keep doing for a long period of time. Plus the sudden 
increase in size worries me. If there's a problem with the files, I need to 
find it before things get hosed (and yes, I did run all the files through a MIF 
wash).

*I will be testing setting up a shared review by storing the shared review PDF 
on the cloud drive and sending a link instead, but until I do, I know this 
works.

On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Fred Ridder docu...@hotmail.com wrote:

Not to minimize your question, but...

With the cost of computer storage running about $0.10 per gigabyte for hard 
disk or $0.50 per gigabyte for SSD, I'm not sure it's worthwhile worrying about 
10 MB more or less. That's less than 1/2 cent's worth of storage space. Unless 
you know your documents are going to be posted on a website where a significant 
number of users do not have anything resembling broadband access, spending more 
than a few seconds worrying about 10 MB in file size does not yield a good 
return on investment.

-Fred Ridder

Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 11:26:35 -0500
Subject: FM12: PDF file size exploding
From: ljsims...@gmail.com
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com

Has anyone had an issue with the size of a generated PDF increasing 
dramatically after moving a book from FM10 to FM12 (or any earlier version of 
FM to FM12)?

I've got a book that's gone from under 3M to over 12M, and that's AFTER running 
the Save as Reduced Size.

Is this a bug, have I not set something up in either FM12 or Acrobat 10 
correctly, or is there a solution?

Thanks,

-- 
Lin Sims

 



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Re: Problem with embedded video continues unresolved

2015-02-16 Thread David Spreadbury
Shlomo,I am trying to import a short video into a FM12 document. I followed the 
steps you passed to Tom, but no luck.What is/are the secret step(s)?
I have tried AVI, MPG4, SWF (only one mentioned in the FM12 Help). 

 On Monday, January 5, 2015 3:00 PM, Shlomo Perets shlo...@microtype.com 
wrote:
   

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{}#yiv1839900806 ol {margin-bottom:0cm;}#yiv1839900806 ul 
{margin-bottom:0cm;}--Adobe Flash Player must be installed for FLV/SWF content 
to be displayed in PDFs viewed with Acrobat or Reader. Your end users will have 
to install the same.  On Windows, both Flash Active X and Plugin are to be 
installed -- see 
http://helpx.adobe.com/acrobat/using/flash-player-needed-acrobat-reader.html    
 Shlomo Perets  MicroType, http://microtype.com FrameMaker/Acrobat/Captivate 
training  consulting • FM-to-Acrobat TimeSavers/Assistants      -- 
Original message --
From: tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com
Date: Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 7:07 PM
Subject: Problem with embedded video continues unresolved
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com


I upgraded from FM7 to 12 in the fall. When the program was installed, we 
verified that the PDF Creation add-on was not selected. The computer also has 
Acrobat 9 Pro Extended, which we reverted to when we discovered that Acrobat 11 
keeps telling me that I need to install the required version of Flash Player, 
even though I already have the up-to-date Flash Player already on this 
computer. 

In a nutshell, here is what is happening. 

-- With the above configuration, I import (by reference) an MP4 clip into the 
FM document and Save as PDF. 

-- When I open the pdf, the pictograph for the video is not interactive. 

-- Today, I tried to start over with a spare notebook. Before I loaded 
anything, I verified that all Adobe programs were uninstalled (the notebook 
include Adobe Air, Adobe Help, Acrobat 9, and FM 12). I then ran Cache Cleaner 
(Piriform), both the cache cleaner and the registry fix, repeatedly until no 
issues were found. 

-- I then restarted the notebook and installed programs, in the following 
order: 

        - FM12, with PDF creation add on unchecked. Restarted notebook after 
install. 

        - Acrobat 9 Pro Extended (same version that is running on my work 
computer), typical install. Restarted the notebook. 

-- Opened FM 12 and created a document using a stock template (UserGuide, 
Chapter.fm). Filled 2 pages with text, then, at a new paragraph, imported an 
older mp4 how-to file that I had on my hard drive. I allowed FM to Fit in 
Selected Rectangle. 

-- Saved the document as untitled, then clicked on Save as PDF. 

-- Opened the PDF. The stock filmstrip icon was interactive and worked! 

-- Opened the FM doc again, deleted the video clip that worked and inserted one 
that had sound. Saved as PDF. Opened the pdf, icon was interactive, but when 
clicked only sound played; no picture. 

-- Closed FM, opened FM doc. Deleted the video clip frame, then inserted the 
one that worked (as above). Saved the file, then Saved as pdf. Opened the pdf 
and this time, the icon was not interactive. 

-- I repeated this procedure, this time inserting the video clip with sound 
that would play only sound and no video in pdf. This time, the icon was not 
interactive. So in both cases I went from video working in some form to nothing 
working. 

This seems totally insane. Any ideas? I'm completely baffled by this. 



Tom Beiswenger
Manager, Technical  Training Documentation, Project Manager - Inspection 
Business
Emhart 

Re: FrameMaker locks up

2015-01-23 Thread David Spreadbury
Dave,If you think it could be your security software, or even your anti-virus 
software, have you tried disabling either, or both, and running Frame?Usually a 
reboot with quickly re-enable either settings.Since I am running the same 
version of FM12, with various pods hanging and numerous graphics, and don't see 
any of these problems, it sounds like either a system issue or something went 
wrong during the FM12 install.I would try disabling the security software 
and/or virus scanner first. If that doesn't work, then a re-install of FM12. 

 On Friday, January 23, 2015 9:32 AM, Stamm, David 
david.st...@gd-ms.com wrote:
   

 2015-01-23-05T15:30Z

Windows 7 Enterprise operating system
Serviced pack 1
8.0 GB RAM
64-bit
FrameMaker 12.0.3.424 unstructured
Local administrator privileges
Shortcut to FrameMaker encoded to run as administrator

Yesterday, I posted about this problem under the subject, Cannot import 
graphics.  Today, I experienced the lockup while using the Paragraph Designer 
pod (which I guess is the term) when the pod is part of a tab group (which 
I again guess is the term).

In my layout of FrameMaker, I customarily have the tab group of the Character 
Catalog, Find/Change, Hypertext, Marker, and Paragraph Designer pods displayed 
in a tab group.

Today, I had copied examples of two paragraph tags from a template and had 
pasted the examples into my production file.  I had applied one of the 
newly-added paragraph tags where I wanted it.  Then, in the tab group, on the 
Paragraph Designer pod, I chose the Apply button.  It was then that I heard 
the ding that indicates that FrameMaker is locked up hard and that I'll have 
to use Task Manger to force it out of the system.

My installation of FrameMaker was updated to the current version only a week or 
so ago.  Because I have seen no other postings about this problem, I wonder 
whether there's a conflict between the latest update and my employer's security 
software that causes the problem.  Although I've already reported this to the 
corporate service desk, I've had no response to that report.

The contributors to this are my best source of help in such situations.  ¿Any 
thoughts?

Thanks,
Dave Stamm
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Re: Cannot import graphics

2015-01-22 Thread David Spreadbury
David,Strange. I am also running the 424 version of Frame 12 on a 64-bit 
Windows 7 laptop. My source is maintained in a CMS. I just tested a book, which 
contains more than 100 graphics imported by reference and didn't see any 
problem. All of my graphics are either .gif or .jpg.
Could this be related to the graphic format? I know that a vector graphic would 
require more resources than a bit-mapped graphic. If you are loading vector 
graphics, i.e., .eps, you might just be seeing a lag during the import.
Dave 

 On Thursday, January 22, 2015 10:18 AM, Stamm, David 
david.st...@gd-ms.com wrote:
   

 2015-01-22-04T16:15Z

Windows 7 Enterprise operating system
Serviced pack 1
8.0 GB RAM
64-bit
FrameMaker 12.0.3.424
Local administrator privileges
Shortcut to FrameMaker encoded to run as administrator

I cannot import graphics - by either reference or by copying - either into a 
table or not into a table - from either C:\ or from a network drive.  The 
anchor for the imported file appears, but the graphic does not.  I discovered 
this in a production file.  The file is locked up so hard that I have to use 
Task Manager to force out.  I have replicated this numerous times in both the 
production file and in new files freshly made from templates.

I _can_ import files as text insets without problem, but _once_, I deleted the 
text inset, and the file locked up as it has with graphics.

Conversely, if I use Windows Explorer to copy the graphic file or the text 
inset file and then paste it into the FrameMaker file, both the anchor and the 
graphic or the icon for the .fm file appear.

A fellow employee running version 12.0.2.389 had no problem importing a graphic 
from a network drive via VPN.

I've already reported this to the corporate service desk, but I've noticed no 
mentions on this list of such problems.

¿Any thoughts?

Dave Stamm


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Re: The font that wouldn't...

2014-12-30 Thread David Spreadbury
Check the FrameMaker Console window for font substitutions to verify if Frame 
is substituting the font.If it is, you might want to add the new font to the 
maker.ini file in the [WindowsToFrameFontAliases] section. 

 On Tuesday, December 30, 2014 9:46 AM, Jeff Coatsworth 
jeff.coatswo...@jonasclub.com wrote:
   

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div.yiv0327593982WordSection1 {}#yiv0327593982 When you created the PDF, did 
you tell it to embed the fonts?    From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com]On Behalf Of Thomas Scalise
Sent: December-30-14 10:38 AM
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Subject: The font that wouldn't...    Esteemed colleagues,    I am using 
FrameMaker 11.0.2.384 on Windows 7 Professional and using Adobe Acrobat 
Professional XI 11.0.6 to create PDFs.    I am implementing a new book design 
that uses Helvetica fonts. I was given a group of fonts to install, which I 
installed In Windows. Included in those fonts a font called Helvetica 
Condensed. Some, but not all, of the installed fonts appear in the Fonts folder 
in Windows on the C: drive. Each of those fonts is preceded by the letter A.  
Helvetic Condensed is not one of them. I don’t know why.    I see this font and 
a number of other Helvetica fonts in FrameMaker when I select Format/Font. When 
I select this Helvetica Condensed for a Head1 in Frame the heading appears in 
the selected font. When I make a PDF of the book, all the Head1 fonts revert to 
Times New Roman (the default, I assume) in the Frame document.    Can anyone 
give me some perspective on what is happening? I assume that the problem is 
occurring in Frame but I don’t know why the font changes there since Helvetica 
Condensed is listed in Frame’s fonts list. I assume that the PDF simply 
reproduces the font in Frame (I could be dead wrong about that). Why is the 
font changing in Frame when Frame allows me to select Helvetica Condensed and 
displays it in the text? I can change the font to Helvetica Neue Condensed and 
the problem goes away. However, the two fonts are not the same and the 
Helvetica Neue version is much more cramped in aspect.    Any advice or insight 
would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance.    Tom    Thomas E. Scalise 
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Re: FrameMaker documentation

2014-12-19 Thread David Spreadbury
FM12 ships with the User Guide in a chm. Complete User Guide. At least my FM12 
did.Since then I have downloaded the PDF of the same version as well as the 
new and updated (ya, right) version. 

 On Friday, December 19, 2014 10:27 AM, Mike Wickham i...@mikewickham.com 
wrote:
   

 Klaus, I got manuals with 7.0 and 7.1. They appear to be identical 7.0 
manuals. I  did not buy 7.2, so don't know on that one. 8.0 definitely 
did not come with a manual, nor any of the versions since.

Mike Wickham

On 12/19/2014 3:16 AM, Klaus Daube wrote:
 Can somebody please refresh my memory?

 In http://www.daube.ch/docu/fmaker69.html I say:
 «
 Getting Started guides: At least since FM-8 these guides have disappeared. 
 It's my
 impession that newcomers are not considered a relevant group of users by 
 Adobe.

 User Guides: Until FM ??? you got a thick manual. Starting with FM-??? the 
 box only
 contains a DVD with the program and help files have been dislocated from your 
 PC to
 the web. The manual from FrameTechnology for FM-5 was 5cm thick (due to the 
 chaper-
 page numbering the number of pages is difficult to get). Adobes manual for 
 FM-7 has
 660 pages. Obviously some information must have been streamlined - or left 
 out. Some
 special information in separate online-manuals (e.g. concerning asian 
 languages or
 customisation of FM) has not been put forwared to newer versions of FM.
 »

 What number I have to put in place of the ???
 Are my statements in error generally?

 Thanks
 Klaus Daube


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Re: Deleting Variables at the Book Level

2014-12-18 Thread David Spreadbury
Tony,You need the Clean Import plugin. You manually clean up on chapter in the 
book, then run Clean Import against the rest of the book and you are done. 
Works with para tags, char tags, cond text, etc.
 

 On Thursday, December 18, 2014 2:36 PM, Tony Marek (PDF) 
tony.ma...@pdf.com wrote:
   

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div.yiv0409651233WordSection1 {}--Hello all –  Second question in one week:Is 
there any easy way to delete obsolete variables from the variables library at 
the book level (Frame 12)?    I’m trying to create a consistent list of 
variables across all chapters in a book and I can’t find a way to do the 
deletions except chapter-by-chapter. Importing variables from one up-to-date 
chapter to others does not perform any deletions of variables not on the 
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Re: Deleting Variables at the Book Level

2014-12-18 Thread David Spreadbury
Ah, but those of us that hung onto the file still get to utilize it. I recently 
upgraded to FM12 and installed it. Wouldn't be the same without it. 

 On Thursday, December 18, 2014 3:06 PM, Lin Sims ljsims...@gmail.com 
wrote:
   

 Has Electropubs come back online? The last time I tried the site, it was gone. 
If it is, then Clean Import is no longer available.

Which is sad, as it was a very useful utility.

On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 3:53 PM, David Spreadbury dspre...@yahoo.com wrote:
Tony,You need the Clean Import plugin. You manually clean up on chapter in the 
book, then run Clean Import against the rest of the book and you are done. 
Works with para tags, char tags, cond text, etc.
 

 On Thursday, December 18, 2014 2:36 PM, Tony Marek (PDF) 
tony.ma...@pdf.com wrote:
   

 Hello all –  Second question in one week:Is there any easy way to delete 
obsolete variables from the variables library at the book level (Frame 12)?    
I’m trying to create a consistent list of variables across all chapters in a 
book and I can’t find a way to do the deletions except chapter-by-chapter. 
Importing variables from one up-to-date chapter to others does not perform any 
deletions of variables not on the source/master file. Thanks,~Tony  ~ ~ ~  
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Re: Deleting Variables at the Book Level

2014-12-18 Thread David Spreadbury
Running version 3.02 with FM12. No problems so far. 

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wrote:
   

 I'm not allowed to install it at work. :-( Got it at home, though, with FM8.

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Ah, but those of us that hung onto the file still get to utilize it. I recently 
upgraded to FM12 and installed it. Wouldn't be the same without it. 

 On Thursday, December 18, 2014 3:06 PM, Lin Sims ljsims...@gmail.com 
wrote:
   

 Has Electropubs come back online? The last time I tried the site, it was gone. 
If it is, then Clean Import is no longer available.

Which is sad, as it was a very useful utility.

On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 3:53 PM, David Spreadbury dspre...@yahoo.com wrote:
Tony,You need the Clean Import plugin. You manually clean up on chapter in the 
book, then run Clean Import against the rest of the book and you are done. 
Works with para tags, char tags, cond text, etc.
 

 On Thursday, December 18, 2014 2:36 PM, Tony Marek (PDF) 
tony.ma...@pdf.com wrote:
   

 Hello all –  Second question in one week:Is there any easy way to delete 
obsolete variables from the variables library at the book level (Frame 12)?    
I’m trying to create a consistent list of variables across all chapters in a 
book and I can’t find a way to do the deletions except chapter-by-chapter. 
Importing variables from one up-to-date chapter to others does not perform any 
deletions of variables not on the source/master file. Thanks,~Tony  ~ ~ ~  
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Re: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped; in PDF

2014-12-15 Thread David Spreadbury
Robert,The previous version is installed with FrameMaker 12 as a chm. It even 
has the Endnotes sections.I have the PDF of the CHM. Can't remember where I 
found it though. If you want a copy I can forward.Dave Spreadbury 

 On Monday, December 15, 2014 12:54 PM, Robert Lauriston 
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 That seems like really bad UI to me. Not only does the TOC disappear,
there's nothing you can click on to get it.

Is that the default appearance of FrameMaker's / RoboHelp's Responsive
HTML5 output? To me it looks amateurish and ugly, the kind of bad
design that I was happy to lose when I migrated from RoboHelp to
WebWorks ePublisher Pro. Viewing it on my desktop, type and icons are
too big. On my Android phone, running text is SMALLER than the
default, and adobe.com won't let me view the old version.

Why even use responsive help for FrameMaker? It's not like anyone's
running the application on a smartphone.

On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Scott Prentice s...@leximation.com wrote:
 Sorry if this is obvious to some .. I'm thinking it's not obvious to all.

 This Help system *is* responsive .. it's just that the response points
 seem to be at odd sizes (at least to me). If your browser window is around
 1300px wide, you'll get the full set of features. At around 1000px you get
 a reduced set. Then around 700px it bumps down again.

 Losing the TOC at 1300px seems a bit extreme. Personally, I'd set that at
 600-800px. Not everyone works with a browser at full screen, and there's no
 reason that you need so much room for the content pane. Keep the TOC visible
 until the content pane is too small to be useful.

 I really like the fact that this is responsive .. the problem is that a
 responsive layout needs to be well designed at all sizes. That does
 complicate things a bit, but it's worth the effort in the long run.
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Re: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped; in PDF and HTML5

2014-12-12 Thread David Spreadbury
Maxwell,It would be great to be able to download the PDF or link to the HTML 
version but both links above don't work.My preference would be the PDF. I 
prefer to have a local copy.The HTML5 link does work. 

 On Friday, December 12, 2014 12:53 PM, Maxwell Hoffmann 
mhoff...@adobe.com wrote:
   

 Adobe has updated online Documentation for FrameMaker 12 (click the HELP 
button to try it out.)

The TWEET below has link to blog with details and illustrations:

NEW #FrameMaker User’s Guide: Sliced, Diced, and Enhanced [Now in HTML5 
Responsive Layout!] - adobe.ly/1yGIrTH

Here are the direct links to the documentation:
HTML: http://adobe.ly/11x6zyK
PDF: http://adobe.ly/1uLhITn



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Re: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped; in PDF and HTML5

2014-12-12 Thread David Spreadbury
Robert,Comparing the TOC of the New Using Framemaker 12 against the TOC of 
the one you referenced this morning (see below) concerning endnotes, there are 
several sections missing in the New version.Maybe keeping both links 
available would be a temporary fix.Just like I keep a copy of the Framemaker 5 
User Guide because the index in the pre-Adobe Framemaker was more robust in 
what it covered.
This is covered in the FM manual topic Create and maintain endnotes:

http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WSd817046a44e105e21e63e3d11ab7f7561e-7f49.html

 

 On Friday, December 12, 2014 2:03 PM, Robert Lauriston 
rob...@lauriston.com wrote:
   

 The search seems to be broken, e.g. the results for footnote do not
include this Create and edit footnotes topic:

http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WS6C3D24E6-2965-48bb-B6CF-50D1439AEB01.html

Or maybe you just cut some content. Searching for endnote finds nothing.

Something's wrong with the word spacing, compare old and new to see what I mean:

http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WSd817046a44e105e21e63e3d11ab7f7561e-7fff.html

http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/12.0/Help/Using/index.html#t=using-framemaker-12%2Ffrm_books_bk%2Ffrm_books_bk-4.htm

I prefer the smaller text in the old CSS.
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Re: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped; in PDF and HTML5

2014-12-12 Thread David Spreadbury
From the size of the New version, compared to the Old version, I would 
expect a lot of good stuff.Old has just shy of 700 pages. New has just shy of 
1000 pages.That's 300 pages of information that wasn't available in the 
Old.I have to ask, why are there items missing from the New? 

 On Friday, December 12, 2014 2:10 PM, David Spreadbury 
dspre...@yahoo.com wrote:
   

 Robert,Comparing the TOC of the New Using Framemaker 12 against the TOC of 
the one you referenced this morning (see below) concerning endnotes, there are 
several sections missing in the New version.Maybe keeping both links 
available would be a temporary fix.Just like I keep a copy of the Framemaker 5 
User Guide because the index in the pre-Adobe Framemaker was more robust in 
what it covered.
This is covered in the FM manual topic Create and maintain endnotes:

http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WSd817046a44e105e21e63e3d11ab7f7561e-7f49.html

 

 On Friday, December 12, 2014 2:03 PM, Robert Lauriston 
rob...@lauriston.com wrote:
   

 The search seems to be broken, e.g. the results for footnote do not
include this Create and edit footnotes topic:

http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WS6C3D24E6-2965-48bb-B6CF-50D1439AEB01.html

Or maybe you just cut some content. Searching for endnote finds nothing.

Something's wrong with the word spacing, compare old and new to see what I mean:

http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WSd817046a44e105e21e63e3d11ab7f7561e-7fff.html

http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/12.0/Help/Using/index.html#t=using-framemaker-12%2Ffrm_books_bk%2Ffrm_books_bk-4.htm

I prefer the smaller text in the old CSS.
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Re: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped; in PDF and HTML5

2014-12-12 Thread David Spreadbury
Just compare the TOC of the help file that ships with Frame 12 against the TOC 
of the new guide.The chapter that includes endnotes, in the current version, is 
missing several sections in the new version.A simple search of the new version 
for 'endnotes' will come back with Not Found.
 

 On Friday, December 12, 2014 6:22 PM, Mike Wickham i...@mikewickham.com 
wrote:
   

  Are you sure the items are missing? The blog about the new help files said:
 
 Content organization: FrameMaker is a powerful product packed with rich 
functionality. However, not all users use all of its functionality all the 
time. While improving the guide, we made a conscious attempt to minimize 
scattering of information and keep content around related features together. 
For example, information about using structured authoring features forms two 
neat chapters in the new user’s guide. This information was spread across 
several chapters in the earlier user’s guide
 
 Mike Wickham
 
 On 12/12/2014 2:18 PM, David Spreadbury wrote:
  
 From the size of the New version, compared to the Old version, I would 
expect a lot of good stuff. Old has just shy of 700 pages. New has just shy of 
1000 pages. That's 300 pages of information that wasn't available in the Old. 
I have to ask, why are there items missing from the New? 
  
 
 
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Re: Adobe Illustrator Dimensioning Tool

2014-11-28 Thread David Spreadbury
True, AI does not have a dimensioning tool, at least not in the sense of 
AutoCAD, ProE, or similar applications.But, you can manually create dimensions 
on your illustrator objects.Take a look at this video 
https://video.search.yahoo.com/video/play;_ylt=A2KLqITdoXhUpggAzyz7w8QF;_ylu=X3oDMTBzM3UzbjRzBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDdmlkBHZ0aWQDBGdwb3MDMTA-?p=dimensioning+with+adobe+illustratorvid=647a3001d42a0728b08befc721d582b4l=1%3A21turl=http%3A%2F%2Fts4.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DVN.608010766394131067%26pid%3D15.1rurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DF1Rcm3JtUR4tit=Size+Measurements+in+%3Cb%3EAdobe+Illustrator%3C%2Fb%3Ec=9sigr=11bo7k4sbsigt=11d03ug6qage=0fr2=p%3As%2Cv%3Av%2Cm%3Asatt=b.
 It shows how to determine the exact size of an object, or a group of objects. 
You can then manually apply the dimensioning lines and place the values in the 
appropriate locations.If that link didn't come through, just Google for 
'dimensioning with adobe illustrator'.
 

 On Friday, November 28, 2014 9:42 AM, Jeff Coatsworth 
jeff.coatswo...@jonasclub.com wrote:
   

 #yiv2645388756 #yiv2645388756 -- _filtered #yiv2645388756 
{font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv2645388756 
{font-family:Tahoma;panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}#yiv2645388756 
#yiv2645388756 p.yiv2645388756MsoNormal, #yiv2645388756 
li.yiv2645388756MsoNormal, #yiv2645388756 div.yiv2645388756MsoNormal 
{margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:11.0pt;}#yiv2645388756 a:link, 
#yiv2645388756 span.yiv2645388756MsoHyperlink 
{color:#0563C1;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv2645388756 a:visited, 
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{margin:72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt;}#yiv2645388756 
div.yiv2645388756WordSection1 {}#yiv2645388756 Probably more productive to ask 
in the Adobe Illustrator forum    From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Denis Daly
Sent: November-28-14 10:28 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Adobe Illustrator Dimensioning Tool    Hi,    Hopefully, it is ok to 
ask this question here.    Does anyone know if AI has a dimensioning tool, 
please?    I have used Corel Draw in the past and it had a very easy to use 
tool, to enable dimensioning of objects (width, height, etc ).    A quick 
online search revealed that a plugin is required. Is this so?    Thanks,    
Denis 
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Re: Convert embedded images to linked ones

2014-11-04 Thread David Spreadbury

If Rick's script doesn't work, you can always create a PDF. Then export the PDF 
(SaveAs in Acrobat) to HTML. That will also extract the graphics.

Dave




  On Tuesday, November 4, 2014 10:52 AM, Wei JIANG [PT-CN] 
jia...@polytrans.com.cn wrote:
   

  Great to hear this! Thank you, Art!
 
 Wei
 
 On 2014/11/4 11:29, Art Campbell wrote:
  
  Yes, FrameScript guru Rick Quattro has a script that will do this. I haven't 
had to use this tool in a few years, so I forget what the output file format 
options are, but I suspect he can tune them to your preference. 
  I'm CC:ing him so you have his address and can contact him directly. 
  Cheers, Art  
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        art.campb...@gmail.com
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 I support www.TheGrotonLine.com, hyperlocal news for Groton MA.  
 On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Wei JIANG [PT-CN] jia...@polytrans.com.cn 
wrote:
 
Hello Framers,
 
 I am translating a book of FM files into Chinese. These FM files have a lot of 
embedded images that have meaningful but dead strings. The client wants these 
strings to be translated. Preferably, I want to open these images in Photoshop 
or Illustrator. So, my question is, is there any way - preferably a script - to 
save these images as disk files and linking/referencing to them?
 
 Thanks,
 Wei
 
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Re: what to back up before reinstalling

2014-10-29 Thread David Spreadbury
Carol,First and foremost your maker.ini. This one is a MUST.If you have ANY 
plugins installed, at a minimum, the \fminit\plugins folder. Wouldn't hurt to 
take the entire \fminit folder, to go along with Winfrieds suggestion.If you 
have ANY customized templates, that you copied to the Framemaker12 templates 
folder for ease in locating them, the \Templates folder.If you have ANY 
customized Structured applications, the \Structure folder.

Before you uninstall your current Framemaker12, you might want to just try 
re-installing. That will refresh any corrupted files.If that doesn't work, then 
uninstall and re-install.Dave 

 On Wednesday, October 29, 2014 4:20 AM, Reng, Dr. Winfried 
wr...@tycoint.com wrote:
   

 Hi Carol,

I do not know whether this changed with FrameMaker 12.
However, FrameMaker 11 has its Linguistics folder not in
AppData\Roaming\Adobe\Framemaker\12, but in
AppData\LocalLow\Adobe

In the Linguistics folder there is the user dictionary which I definitely
would back up.

Best regards

Winfried

 -Original Message-
 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-
 boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Carol J. Elkins
 Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 10:29 PM
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: what to back up before reinstalling

 Sigh. I have to reinstall Framemaker 12 on my Win7 system. Before I
 do so, I am creating a list of all of the files that I need to back
 up so that I can restore all of my customization after I reinstall.
 Here is my list so far (not including all of the add-ins and scripts
 that are unique to my installation).

 Back up the following from
 C:\Users\username\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\Framemaker\12
      Folder WorkSpaces (specifically the .cfsw and .fws files)
      Folder Linguistics
      File consfile.txt
      File maker.ini
      File pdfsize.ini

 Back up the following from C:\Program Files
 (x86)\Adobe\AdobeFrameMaker12
      Folder Templates
      Folder fminit
      Folder plugins
      maker.ini

 Any others? I will post the final list somewhere that will serve as a
 resource to the rest of us; I've had no luck searching for such a
 list on Adobe or by Googling.

 Two additional questions: Does anyone know if backing up the
 WorkSpaces folder REALLY allows you to retrieve your custom
 workspaces after reinstall? I vaguely remember having a problem with
 this when I upgraded to FM12. And do I need to deactivate my current
 installation before reinstalling it on the same computer?

 Carol



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Re: Sundorne SetPrint - Does it work with Frame 12?

2014-10-28 Thread David Spreadbury
Craig,Slap my hand. I was wrong.I copied the SetPrint folder to the wrong Frame 
12 folder.It does work.Slap my hand twice.Sorry.Works as advertised.
 

 On Tuesday, October 28, 2014 1:34 PM, David Spreadbury 
dspre...@yahoo.com wrote:
   

 Craig,I thought I had tried this when I first installed Frame 12, but just 
checked it again.The answer is No, using the instructions that come with 
SetPrint.No console message is written. Selecting File  Print points to the 
default printer, not Adobe PDF.No errors are displayed either. It appears that 
SetPrint is completely ignored in Frame 12.DavePS: It would be nice if it did 
though.
 

 On Tuesday, October 28, 2014 1:25 PM, Craig, Alison 
alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com wrote:
   

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0 3 1 1 1 1 1;}#yiv4111244648 filtered {font-family:SimSun;panose-1:2 1 6 0 3 1 
1 1 1 1;}#yiv4111244648 filtered {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 
2 4;}#yiv4111244648 filtered {font-family:Tahoma;panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 
4;}#yiv4111244648 filtered {panose-1:2 1 6 0 3 1 1 1 1 1;}#yiv4111244648 
p.yiv4111244648MsoNormal, #yiv4111244648 li.yiv4111244648MsoNormal, 
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p.yiv4111244648MsoAcetate, #yiv4111244648 li.yiv4111244648MsoAcetate, 
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{}#yiv4111244648 filtered {margin:72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt;}#yiv4111244648 
div.yiv4111244648WordSection1 {}#yiv4111244648 Has anyone tested the Sundorne 
SetPrint plugin with Frame 12?    Does it work?    Alison       Alison Craig | 
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Re: FM9 Crashes when Creating PDFs with files that Contain PDFs (WAS: Frame 9 Crashing – Can’t Create PDFs)

2014-10-27 Thread David Spreadbury
Craig,Your post implies she is importing them INTO the fm file. Has she tried 
Importing by Reference?It should work,and is probably the preferred way 
anyhow.Dave
 

 On Monday, October 27, 2014 3:29 PM, Lin Sims ljsims...@gmail.com wrote:
   

 The SVG bug (which only prevented being able to search text in SVG graphics 
imported into Frame and then distilled to PDF) was fixed in the latest patch 
update to FM12.

I admit I am not going by direct experience regarding the use of PDF as a 
graphic format. One of my coworkers has been forced to embed single-page PDFs 
into Frame files for a particular document set she works on. She was the one 
who said that the file size bloated from that. The files were output from a 
database, and she was adding 50 or so to a book. I think she had to break the 
chapter she was adding them to into multiple files in order to get it to 
distill properly.

I don't think I've ever heard that the preferred workflow was to create a 
graphic, save it as PDF, and then import it into a Frame file that was going to 
be PDFed. That seems ... odd to me for some reason, but that may just be me. :-)

Good luck,

On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Craig, Alison alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com 
wrote:

In what version of Frame is the SVG problem fixed? I’m using FM9. As for why I 
use the PDFs (from Visio), I was under the impression that this was a 
recommended workflow. And I’ve never seen anyone mention that including PDF 
images in the book bloats the final Frame PDF or I might have looked for an 
alternative before. The interesting things is, I have been using this method 
for years with the same book files and have never had a problem before. In 
fact, when I built PDF files for review in mid-September, there wasn’t a single 
hesitation. The PDFs thePrint to Book… option first encounter were not edited 
between mid-September and when I encountered the problem last week. I spent a 
lot of time thinking over the weekend and remember an issue I had with Pantone 
warning re: mismatched “definitions”. I cannot recall how I made this go away – 
or if I actually did anything at all – so I’m going to run a few tests. Cross 
your fingers for me. Alison Alison Craig | Technical Documentation 
LeadUltrasonix | 130-4311 Viking Way|Richmond, BC V6V 2K9 | 
analogicultrasound.comT 604-279-8550 ext 127 | F 604-279-8559 From: 
framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com]On Behalf Of Lin Sims
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 6:09 AM
To: Mike Wickham
Cc: Frame Users
Subject: Re: FM9 Crashes when Creating PDFs with files that Contain PDFs (WAS: 
Frame 9 Crashing – Can’t Create PDFs) Out of curiousity, Allison, why are you 
printing the Visio graphics to PDF and then importing them into a Frame file 
that is printed to PDF? Embedding a PDF file into a file that is going to be 
printed to PDF tends to drastically increase the size of the file being 
distilled. Given that your testing has pretty much narrowed down the issue to 
pages with embedded PDF images/graphics, I'd strongly suggest seeing if a 
different image format would do what you need. Is it necessary that they be 
PDF, or could another searchable format such as SVG (now that Adobe has fixed 
the SVG to PDF but) be used instead? On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Mike 
Wickham i...@mikewickham.com wrote:I thought I recalled Dov Isaacs explaining 
this as a Windows problem, rather than a FrameMaker problem. I found the 
following quote from him online, which appears to reference what was later 
called the fntcache.dat bug (and fixed with a hotfix and, later, Windows 
update), and a Windows bug relating to large page sizes and large fonts. I 
don't know if that one was ever fixed and may still require setting a lower dpi 
as a workaround. (I would note that I have no text or image dropout at 1200 dpi 
on Windows 7.)

NOTE: The following is a 10-year old quote:
(2) There is a known problem with FrameMaker under Windows only in which text 
may disappear from the output page (i.e., selective text dropout) when printing 
to PostScript devices, including Acrobat Distiller. Unfortunately, the problem 
is NOT reproducible from system to system or document to document either user 
sites or within Adobe itself. What we do know is that the larger the logical 
page size in combination with higher resolution settings aggravates the 
problems (i.e., makes it more likely that you will actually see the symptom). 
It is for this reason that we most strongly recommend that you NEVER use a 
Windows PostScript printer driver setting higher than 600 dpi with FrameMaker. 
If necessary to print to a higher resolution device, create PDF first (with the 
Adobe Distiller / Adobe PDF PostScript printer driver instance set to no more 
than 600 dpi) and then do the final print from Acrobat / Adobe Reader to the 
actual print device. In the rare instances where there is still selective text 
dropout, set the driver resolution to 300 dpi. 

Re: How do Document properties in PDF get populated?

2014-10-24 Thread David Spreadbury
Linda,This can be done in one of two ways. Of the two, in my opinion, the first 
is the better choice:1. In Framemaker, with the book selected, select File  
File Info and fill in the boxes there (same is true for Word documents).2. In 
Acrobat, select File  Properties.The first choice sets the properties in the 
book and you should never have to touch it again.The second choice you need to 
set the properties each time you generate a PDF.
Dave 

 On Friday, October 24, 2014 1:27 PM, Heiko Haida i...@heiko-haida.de 
wrote:
   

 Hi Linda,as far as I remember, this behaviour is set in the PDF distiller 
profile. In the advanced options you may try to activate / deactivate DSC 
comments.Another way of defining document properties is via pdfmark. This can 
be defined in each document or only in one document for the whole 
book.pdfmark text is added in separate text frames set up as postscript text 
(invisible text), either on a normal page or on a master page that is 
applied.pls see:-- 
http://books.google.de/books?id=b-yEKgcQmN8Cpg=PA564lpg=PA564dq=pdfmark+framemakersource=blots=Wkaf_yRBhmsig=ZuN7SOEK3iyqEjXBKdwqvAEzGokhl=desa=Xei=y5hKVMz8A4S4OtnFgNgFved=0CGMQ6AEwBw#v=onepageq=pdfmark%20framemakerf=false--
 
http://www.adobe.com/content/dam/Adobe/en/devnet/acrobat/pdfs/pdfmark_reference.pdfBest
 regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin Linda Rose:
Hi, I have some pdf files made from Framemaker 11 that show the FM book 
filename in the Document Properties window of the PDF (File  Properties). I 
also have some pdf files made from Framemaker 11 that show a blank field in the 
Document Properties window of the PDF. I can't figure out why some pdf files 
display the FM book filename and others don't. I've checked the File  Info box 
in the FM source files for both books and it is blank. Thanks, Linda

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Re: What free Windows text editor should I use to look at MIF files?

2014-10-02 Thread David Spreadbury
Only real choice is Notepad++ (http://notepad-plus-plus.org/)
 

 On Thursday, October 2, 2014 2:27 PM, Robert Lauriston 
rob...@lauriston.com wrote:
   

 Some popular ones:

EditPad
EditPlus
NotePad++
NoteTab

Some of those may be free only for non-commercial use.
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Re: Text inset setup

2014-09-29 Thread David Spreadbury
I don't believe you need either of those steps. The insetsI use contain the 
same EDD the host document has and starts with the appropriate element, in the 
case of structured. For unstructured, the same Paragraph tag that would be 
expected in the host document.It is just a File  Import  File. If the inset 
calls any of the same variables that are in the host document, those get 
populated appropriately on import.
Dave SpreadburyContract Tech Writer
 

 On Monday, September 29, 2014 12:44 PM, LGLists li...@techcomplus.com 
wrote:
   

  FM 12Win 7 It's been a long time and at least a couple of FM versions (FM 10 
or maybe even 8) since I set up text insets. Before I do more work than 
necessary, I want to be sure nothing has changed. Here's what I recall:    
   - I need to import the inset into a small anchor tag in my container file.   
   

   - Each text inset file should start with a small anchor tag and a 
nonbreaking space.
 Is this setup still needed?  I think I have the reset of the inset issues in 
hand, as I've worked with them more recently, but haven't set up any new ones 
in a long time. Thanks!! ~
Linda G. Gallagher
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Re: Conditional cells in a straddled table row

2014-06-30 Thread David Spreadbury
Samantha,
Have you tried making separate tables and applying the appropriate condition to 
each table?
Dave



On Monday, June 30, 2014 9:54 AM, Samantha Nair samantha.n...@smoothwall.net 
wrote:
 


Hi all,

I wonder if any of you could help me.

I have a table with 3 columns and 5 rows. Columns 1 and 2 have all 5 rows 
straddled. Column 3 contains all 5 rows separately. The last entry in column 3 
contains conditional text:

           | Column 1 | Column 2 | Column 3
Row A | Cell 1A     | Cell 2A     |Cell 3A
Row B |                |                |Cell 3B
Row C |                |                |Cell 3C

Row D | ​               |                |Cell 3D
Row E |                |                | Cell 3E​

​I am unable to make all of Row E conditional as I've straddled Cell 1A, and 
Cell 2A over it respectively. This means when I hide my conditional text, Cell 
3E, my table is left with an blank row. 

Is there a way of getting around this?? I experimented with having Row E 
unstraddled but I was unable to change the borders for that row. I may have 
been looking in the wrong places!

In reality, this is a large table and I have this scenario repeated at various 
points, so I would like to avoid changing the layout where possible, but am 
resigned to the fact that I may have to.

Any help you can give would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Sam.
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Re: Word Tables to Frame 12Tables

2014-06-18 Thread David Spreadbury
Shouldn't that be Weird-ness?...:)



On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 1:42 PM, Craig, Alison 
alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com wrote:
 


I love it! 
 
“Word-ness” is such a wonderfully descriptive term (epithet?).
 
Alison
 
 
Alison Craig | Technical Documentation Lead 
Ultrasonix| 130-4311 Viking Way | Richmond, BC  V6V 2K9 | analogicultrasound.com
T 604-279-8550 ext 127 | F 604-279-8559
 
From:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fred Ridder
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 11:26 AM
To: Lin Sims; Robert Lauriston
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Word Tables to Frame 12Tables
 
Yes, TableCleaner is absolutely indispensable when you're importing complete 
Word documents that contain tables into FrameMaker. I couldn't do without it. 

But for bringing in a single table (which I believe was the original query), 
I'll stick with the convert-to-text-before-copying method. In my experience it 
is quicker to apply clean formatting to the cells of one table that was built 
from pasted plain text
 than to fix all the Word-ness of a table that was pulled in as a table even if 
you have a tool that does most of the work.

-Fred Ridder 


 
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 13:02:42 -0400
Subject: Re: Word Tables to Frame 12Tables
From: ljsims...@gmail.com
To: rob...@lauriston.com
CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com
And don't forget Rick Quattro's excellent TableCleaner plugin, which can help 
make cleaning up Word tables ever so much easier.
 
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 12:43 PM, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote:
Second on that approach.

On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Fred Ridder docu...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Because the Word and FrameMaker table models are fundamentally so different,
 I find that it is best to only import the content and nothing relating to
 the tableness.  From Word, first use the convert table to text command,
 then copy the tab-separated table contents. Paste the text into Frame and
 then use convert the table to text command to create a table with the
 appropriate table format applied.
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Re: Can't Generate PDF

2014-06-04 Thread David Spreadbury

You could also try and locate a copy of the SetPrint plugin, currently being 
distributed by Sundorne, which sets the Adobe PDF driver as the default when 
ever FrameMaker is launched.



On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 2:10 PM, Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com wrote:
 


Is the Adobe Acrobat printer set as your system default printer?

Can you do File  Print Book and print to the Acrobat printer? (Check Generate 
Acrobat Data and UNcheck Print To File on the print dialog box.)

Art


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On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Karen Robbins karendes...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello Framers,

I recently updated a much-used 200+ Kb file and attempted to save as PDF, 
which failed; I could see the temporary .tps file appear then disappear. Tried 
printing to a .ps file, which also failed; file generates but it contains zero 
kb. Tried different printers in the print setup, all fail. Log file reads %%[ 
Warning: Empty job. No PDF file produced. ] %%. Tried restarting, save-as on 
the file, and a new document; same results. There is nothing different about 
my setup AFAIK. FM 11.0.2.384 in Windows 7, in Parallels 8.

I can print paper output, which, as I'm on deadline, will have to be scanned 
to PDF (on the Mac side!) and insert into my master FM-generated PDF.

Any suggestions appreciated.

Thanks,
Karen

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Re: Is there a fast way to wrap unstructured text into [Para] tags?

2014-05-21 Thread David Spreadbury
Or try this link
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/9.0/StructuredDev/Structure_Dev_Reference.pdf

On Wednesday, May 21, 2014 7:30 AM, Rick Quatro r...@rickquatro.com wrote:
 


Structured Framemaker Developer's Guide

Google that and it should come up.

-Original Message-
From: Theresa de Valence [mailto:t...@bstw.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 8:25 AM
To: Rick Quatro; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Is there a fast way to wrap unstructured text into [Para] tags?

On 5/21/2014 6:56 AM, Rick Quatro wrote:
 http://www.google.com/url?sa=trct=jq=esrc=ssource=webcd=2cad=rja
 uact=
 8ved=0CFoQFjABurl=http%3A%2F%2Fhelp.adobe.com%2Fen_US%2FFrameMaker%2
 F9.0%2 
 FStructuredDev%2FStructure_Dev_Reference.pdfei=Y5N8U7-aMpOvsASp8YHwBg
 usg=A FQjCNHaESsSmE6osFRp5Qd78-nRIM_rvQsig2=5c7A0uUg0yPsQFqdLQzwPg

This link is not resolving, Rick. Could you tell me the name of the
publication and maybe I can look it up?

Thanks,
Theresa

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Re: Can a PDF behave like context-sensitive help?

2014-05-19 Thread David Spreadbury
Beverly,
Simple answer, Yes.
If you search for How to Open a PDF to a specific page you will get a lot of 
hits. One, with a short description of how is 
http://www.ehow.com/how_6975556_open-pdf-file-specific.html.

On Monday, May 19, 2014 1:42 PM, Beverly Robinson 
beverly_robin...@datacard.com wrote:
 


I am using FrameMaker 12.0.2.389 and Acrobat 9.5.5 Pro Extended on a Windows 7 
64-bit computer. 
 
One of the projects I support would like to open a PDF User’s Guide from the 
user interface but, and here’s the catch, they want to open to the specific 
page of the PDF that applies to the page of the user interface. In other words, 
they want the PDF to act like context-sensitive HTML help. And I want it to be 
automatic. That is, I want to be able to insert markers in my .fm files that 
survive the PDF creation process and I want the software developers I work with 
to insert corresponding information in their code that will cause the PDF to 
open to the relevant page of the PDF. 
 
A colleague vaguely remembers doing something like this at another company but 
thinks it was all post-processing after the PDF was created and that there was 
significant software developer effort involved at each release. That would not 
be acceptable.
 
In other words, I want something equivalent to a RoboHelp mapping file. Am I 
asking for the impossible? If this is possible, please point me to the topics 
in FrameMaker or Acrobat documentation that will get me started.
Thanks for any help you can give,
Beverly
 
P.S. Please copy me on replies. I’m on digest.
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Re: Using a backslash (\) in Hypertext marker

2014-05-08 Thread David Spreadbury
If you must use backslashes, try two for each occurrence. Framemaker, at least 
in older versions, use to interpret the first backslash to read the second as a 
backslash.


On Thursday, May 8, 2014 2:57 PM, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote:
 
Did Adobe lose the About pathnames in commands topic somewhere along the way?

In a pathname, folder levels are separated by a slash (/), even in Windows.

http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/8.0/help.html?content=Chap17-Hypertext-Viewonly-Docs_11.html
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Re: tracking Help page usage

2014-03-15 Thread David Spreadbury
I question why ...one long doc... when there are so many easy to use, free or 
almost free, tools available that can produce a usable help file with full TOC 
and hyperlinks across chapters from the original source.
Context sensitive help is great is time allows for it. It requires 
collaboration between writer(s) and developers which can add time to the 
development schedule.



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We are currently not doing context-sensitive help; instead, users click a Help 
icon which launches a nice, long doc. Do any of you Framers have any experience 
tracking doc/page usage? We are comparing Google analytics or RH server. Is 
anyone using some open source tool they would recommend? Any and all 
information would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: FM9 - Fm files have disappeared from disk

2014-03-10 Thread David Spreadbury
Suggestion. Set up a backup system. There are plenty of backup utilities out there, some free. Then set up a schedule, automated would be best, to back up your files.   On Monday, March 10, 2014 9:50 AM, Jeff Coatsworth jeff.coatswo...@jonasclub.com wrote:

Sounds like network flakiness to me :( 
  


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To: Frame Users (framers@lists.frameusers.com)
Subject: FM9 - Fm files have disappeared from disk 


  
Hi, 
  
Yesterday I spent a few hours updating cross-references in a book. I updated the TOCs several times. Saved all files several times. All went well. 
  
Today I open the same book and 6 files of 40 are missing - have the ? symbol. They are not on disk either. 
  
Has anyone seen this before. I am at a complete loss here. 
  
Thx for any advice. 
  
I do have a backup from the day before. 
  
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Re: Frame not working this morning

2014-02-24 Thread David Spreadbury
Anita,
To remove the computer from the equation, did you try opening the files on 
another system with Frame 10, or greater? Could your system have picked up some 
sort of virus/trojan?
If they do open on another system, clean your system.



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Hi Anita,
 
Have you quit and restarted FrameMaker? This usually gets rid of the blank 
screen.
 
Rick
 
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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Gutierrez, Anita
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 11:50 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Frame not working this morning
 
Hi Framers,
 
This is a new one for me.  Frame 10.0.2.419, Windows 7. Frame was functioning 
normally on Friday.  (I get the digest so please copy me on any answers.)
 
My computer seems to have spontaneously rebooted over the weekend. 
First thing this morning, I opened a *.book file, and then tried to open an 
*.fm file from the book.  Frame crashed (Internal error etc.).  I tested every 
file in the book and all crashed.
 
I then opened a different *.book file and tried again—all files crashed.
 
Next, I opened a *.fm file direcly from Windows Explorer (without first opening 
the book). The document “opened” showing a big white blank—no text, frames, 
borders, symbols, nothing.  Just white.  
 
When I select File  Close, the “do you want to save” window opens and suddenly 
I can see my document in the background—the content is all there like it was 
Friday.  However, I can’t edit the content since the save dialog is open. If I 
click Cancel in the save window, the doc window goes back to white.  Clicking 
Yes or No in the save window has no effect—next time I open it I see the same 
thing. This is true no matter how I open the file (from its book, from Windows 
Explorere, or File  Open).
 
With the document open and displaying only white, I can insert a 
cross-reference or type (although I’m doing this blind, so it’s not a viable 
workaround).  When I select File  Close, again I can see the changes reflected 
in the doc. Clicking Cancel again takes me back to white. 
 
I tried saving the file as a .mif. In Notepad, it looks like every other 
.mif—but in Frame, it looks the same as the .fm—blank window.
 
The good (or less bad) news is that ever since I opened the .fm files directly 
from Windows Explorer this morning, I can now open them from the *.book context 
and Frame doesn’t crash.  It just shows the blank windows.
 
I’ve tried files from 4 different books so far and  all get the same results.  
 
Any tips are most appreciated
Anita
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Re: FrameMaker freaks me out

2014-01-23 Thread David Spreadbury
Steve,
Occasionally my FrameMaker display will go a little berserk. Nothing as 
serious, so far, as you relate, but similar. Also, there are times when I will 
delete a graphic, but it remains on the screen, and I know I deleted it.
It may be due to a long standing bug in Frame related to refreshing of the 
display. You might try Ctrl+L (Refresh) one time and see if it has any effect.
Or, check if there are any updates to your video drivers. Another possibility.
Dave





On Thursday, January 23, 2014 9:58 AM, Steve Rickaby 
srick...@wordmongers.demon.co.uk wrote:
 
At some point while editing yesterday, and I'm not sure what I was doing, 
*every chapter* in the book I'm working on started displaying all its text as 
if someone had picked it up and randomly scattered it across the page - 
complete loss of vertical leading, and sideways shifts as well. It was clearly 
something internal to FrameMaker's display engine, as opening unopened chapters 
showed the same thing.

After nearly having a coronary, I closed down FrameMaker and then re--opened 
the book, and everything then looked fine, and has remained fine.

I've never seen anything like this before, and it's probably shortened my life 
expectancy somewhat. Anyone else experienced this?

[FrameMaker 7.0p577 for Mac]
-- 
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Re: Choosing a Help Format

2013-11-24 Thread David Spreadbury
Fei Min,
Personally I think you are stabbing at windmills. It isn't all that difficult 
to decompile a CHM, make a change, and recompile. How many do?
I produce OracleHelp for Java from Frame source. It also produces HTML for the 
content. It is delivered as server based, but there is nothing to prevent 
someone changing the HTML. Haven't heard of anyone doing it.

Dave





On Friday, November 22, 2013 12:43 PM, Fei Min Lorente 
feimin.lore...@onsemi.com wrote:
 
Okay, that would explain why no one seems to be using Eclipse Help unless it's 
an Eclipse product. :-)

We're concerned about the OmniHelp files on the theory that if people can do 
something, someone will. That could be a completely unfounded concern, so I'm 
glad to hear opinions to the contrary.

Fei Min

-Original Message-
From: robert.lauris...@gmail.com [mailto:robert.lauris...@gmail.com] On Behalf 
Of Robert Lauriston
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 12:26 PM
To: Fei Min Lorente; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Choosing a Help Format

I agree with Jeremy, standalone EclipseHelp is a huge and complicated 
distributable. It's not a practical format. I'm not sure if there's a use case 
where it would make sense.

Why would users mess with your help files?

On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 7:53 AM, Fei Min Lorente feimin.lore...@onsemi.com 
wrote:
 And we weren't worried about OmniHelp losing files; we are worried about 
 users going in and messing with them. Is there any way to lock them down?

 We're very curious about using standalone Eclipse Help; has anyone here used 
 it for a non-Eclipse-based product? If not, I'll take this question to the 
 eclipse_tw group.
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Re: Choosing a Help Format

2013-11-24 Thread David Spreadbury
Fei Min,
Yes, both Omnihelp and OracleHelp for Java are very fast and very flexible.
Both the HTML Help Workshop help and Mif2Go Users Guide, discuss how to go 
about creating the tags necessary to make context-sensitive help work. The 
primary thing, from what i have have found, is the calls from the help to the 
application requires close coordination between the help and application 
developers to determine a mutually agreeable tag content.





On Sunday, November 24, 2013 9:12 AM, Fei Min Lorente 
feimin.lore...@onsemi.com wrote:
 
Okay, point taken. We won’t worry about all the HTML files being exposed in 
OmniHelp. And our software developer did notice how fast it was.
 
So we’re looking at context-sensitive help to see if we can get that to work in 
MS Help Viewer or anything else. It’s not a requirement right now, especially 
if it’s going to add any significant time to the schedule, but I’m convinced 
that it’s a key feature that can enhance the user experience, and one of the 
few advantages that HTML can provide over PDF. If we don’t implement it this 
time around, I’d like to include it next time.
 
Fei Min
 
From:David Spreadbury [mailto:dspre...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2013 7:43 AM
To: Fei Min Lorente; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Choosing a Help Format
 
Fei Min,
Personally I think you are stabbing at windmills. It isn't all that difficult 
to decompile a CHM, make a change, and recompile. How many do?
I produce OracleHelp for Java from Frame source. It also produces HTML for the 
content. It is delivered as server based, but there is nothing to prevent 
someone changing the HTML. Haven't heard of anyone doing it.

Dave
 
 
On Friday, November 22, 2013 12:43 PM, Fei Min Lorente 
feimin.lore...@onsemi.com wrote:
Okay, that would explain why no one seems to be using Eclipse Help unless it's 
an Eclipse product. :-)

We're concerned about the OmniHelp files on the theory that if people can do 
something, someone will. That could be a completely unfounded concern, so I'm 
glad to hear opinions to the contrary.

Fei Min

-Original Message-
From: robert.lauris...@gmail.com [mailto:robert.lauris...@gmail.com] On Behalf 
Of Robert Lauriston
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 12:26 PM
To: Fei Min Lorente; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Choosing a Help Format

I agree with Jeremy, standalone EclipseHelp is a huge and complicated 
distributable. It's not a practical format. I'm not sure if there's a use case 
where it would make sense.

Why would users mess with your help files?

On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 7:53 AM, Fei Min Lorente feimin.lore...@onsemi.com 
wrote:
 And we weren't worried about OmniHelp losing files; we are worried about 
 users going in and messing with them. Is there any way to lock them down?

 We're very curious about using standalone Eclipse Help; has anyone here used 
 it for a non-Eclipse-based product? If not, I'll take this question to the 
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Choosing a Help Format

2013-11-24 Thread David Spreadbury
Fei Min,
Personally I think you are stabbing at windmills. It isn't all that difficult 
to decompile a CHM, make a change, and recompile. How many do?
I produce OracleHelp for Java from Frame source. It also produces HTML for the 
content. It is delivered as server based, but there is nothing to prevent 
someone changing the HTML. Haven't heard of anyone doing it.

Dave





On Friday, November 22, 2013 12:43 PM, Fei Min Lorente  wrote:

Okay, that would explain why no one seems to be using Eclipse Help unless it's 
an Eclipse product. :-)

We're concerned about the OmniHelp files on the theory that if people can do 
something, someone will. That could be a completely unfounded concern, so I'm 
glad to hear opinions to the contrary.

Fei Min

-Original Message-
From: robert.lauriston at gmail.com [mailto:robert.lauris...@gmail.com] On 
Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 12:26 PM
To: Fei Min Lorente; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Choosing a Help Format

I agree with Jeremy, standalone EclipseHelp is a huge and complicated 
distributable. It's not a practical format. I'm not sure if there's a use case 
where it would make sense.

Why would users mess with your help files?

On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 7:53 AM, Fei Min Lorente  
wrote:
> And we weren't worried about OmniHelp losing files; we are worried about 
> users going in and messing with them. Is there any way to lock them down?
>
> We're very curious about using standalone Eclipse Help; has anyone here used 
> it for a non-Eclipse-based product? If not, I'll take this question to the 
> eclipse_tw group.
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Choosing a Help Format

2013-11-24 Thread David Spreadbury
Fei Min,
Yes, both Omnihelp and OracleHelp for Java are very fast and very flexible.
Both the HTML Help Workshop help and Mif2Go Users Guide, discuss how to go 
about creating the tags necessary to make context-sensitive help work. The 
primary thing, from what i have have found, is the calls from the help to the 
application requires close coordination between the help and application 
developers to determine a mutually agreeable tag content.





On Sunday, November 24, 2013 9:12 AM, Fei Min Lorente  wrote:

Okay, point taken. We won?t worry about all the HTML files being exposed in 
OmniHelp. And our software developer did notice how fast it was.
?
So we?re looking at context-sensitive help to see if we can get that to work in 
MS Help Viewer or anything else. It?s not a requirement right now, especially 
if it?s going to add any significant time to the schedule, but I?m convinced 
that it?s a key feature that can enhance the user experience, and one of the 
few advantages that HTML can provide over PDF. If we don?t implement it this 
time around, I?d like to include it next time.
?
Fei Min
?
From:David Spreadbury [mailto:dspreadb at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2013 7:43 AM
To: Fei Min Lorente; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Choosing a Help Format
?
Fei Min,
Personally I think you are stabbing at windmills. It isn't all that difficult 
to decompile a CHM, make a change, and recompile. How many do?
I produce OracleHelp for Java from Frame source. It also produces HTML for the 
content. It is delivered as server based, but there is nothing to prevent 
someone changing the HTML. Haven't heard of anyone doing it.

Dave
?
?
On Friday, November 22, 2013 12:43 PM, Fei Min Lorente  wrote:
Okay, that would explain why no one seems to be using Eclipse Help unless it's 
an Eclipse product. :-)

We're concerned about the OmniHelp files on the theory that if people can do 
something, someone will. That could be a completely unfounded concern, so I'm 
glad to hear opinions to the contrary.

Fei Min

-Original Message-
From: robert.lauriston at gmail.com [mailto:robert.lauris...@gmail.com] On 
Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 12:26 PM
To: Fei Min Lorente; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Choosing a Help Format

I agree with Jeremy, standalone EclipseHelp is a huge and complicated 
distributable. It's not a practical format. I'm not sure if there's a use case 
where it would make sense.

Why would users mess with your help files?

On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 7:53 AM, Fei Min Lorente  
wrote:
> And we weren't worried about OmniHelp losing files; we are worried about 
> users going in and messing with them. Is there any way to lock them down?
>
> We're very curious about using standalone Eclipse Help; has anyone here used 
> it for a non-Eclipse-based product? If not, I'll take this question to the 
> eclipse_tw group.
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[TCS Users] Re: Part 1: Why I am Dropping TCS and FrameMaker

2013-11-04 Thread David Spreadbury
I build a CD of PDFs for each release and I build an index of all the PDFs on 
the CD with a link on the home page. So the customer can search all the PDFs on 
the CD by clicking a link, entering the search word/phrase. The only 
requirement is they have Acrobat Reader, and I give them a link to get that 
too, on their system.





On Monday, November 4, 2013 8:47 AM, Jerry A. Hanifin  wrote:

You can globally search PDFs. We have over 50 guides with a page count of over 
3000 and we deliver both help and PDF (customers want both). If you use adobe 
you can globally search all PDFs for a specific topic using the Adobe Reader 
Edit ?Search feature as long as the PDFs reside in the same directory structure 
that you select in the search. We deliver all in the same directory, which is 
quicker than if they are in different directories under the same root. Even 
thought I say quicker, it is all done in a matter of seconds.
?
Jerry Hanifin
 Technical Publications
?
From:TCS-Users at googlegroups.com [mailto:TCS-Users at googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of cud
Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2013 5:18 AM
To: TCS-Users at googlegroups.com
Cc: FrameMaker Forum
Subject: [TCS Users] Re: Part 1: Why I am Dropping TCS and FrameMaker
?
Ok, this is a long-winded post, so my reply might be long-winded in return.? 
I'll try not to.? I want to play devil's advocate here, and argue a few of the 
points you made.? You have every right to make your decision, and I'm sure 
there are lots of other issues.? But I can point to a couple of them right now.

First, your repeated list of tasks:
1. Changing conditional tags for appropriate product edition and then 
updating changes in all files - 3 minutes
2. hiding or showing certain FM files ?- 1 minute
3. updating variables for appropriate product edition and then updating 
changes in all files - 3 minutes
4. check to make sure PDF ?options are set correctly - 3 minutes
5. update book - 1 minute
6. print pdf through acrobat distiller ?- 10 minutes (low end...can be 
as long as 20 minutes for large books but i am being charitable)
7. Post processing steps -- change the PDF filename, switch the PDF 
title to show bookmark, commit PDF into SVN etc -- 5 minutes
I think you overestimate the cost for automating this.? ExtendScript could do 
this pretty easily, so you would not have an SPOF in that instance.? I'm an FDK 
programmer, and I can tell you that it's no more than 8 hours to set this up.? 
It's all very straight forward -- no big decisions, no hairy dependencies.? Did 
you ask around for the cost of automating a batch to do this?? I've worked at a 
number of places that do exactly that.??
BOOK == PDF -- I don't know what you mean there.? I think that is simply not 
true unless you qualify it to read "In our workflow BOOK == PDF."? I worked in 
an organization that automated book preparation, conversion of book to HTML, 
and generation of a PDF for every chapter in the book to ship as the 
"printable" version of each help section.? This limiting of book to PDF file is 
strictly your choice.
PFDs IN GENERAL -- I understand...? You want to get away from PDFs and get to 
something more modern, more open to search, etc.? Again, you can implement 
WebWorks to generate perfectly good HTML versions of your books.? Or you can do 
as I did, and convert to DITA -- then use any number of tools to generate your 
help output, plus PDFs, or pretty much anything else you could want.? My 
recommendation is to bite the bullet and switch to DITA sooner than later, 
because to future-proof your content I believe you will ultimately have to make 
that move.
CLUNKY GUI -- By principle I reject this issue.? In that I'm a Luddite, I 
guess.? For me the only issue is whether the paradigm and work flow are 
suitable.? Yes, Maker can be vastly improved there.? But so can every other 
authoring product on the market.? Bits and bobs like icon colors, menu 
customization, and the like do not interest me in the least.? If the GUI 
actually gets in the way, then you have an issue but I maintain that Maker is 
no worse on that count than any other product -- just that the problems show up 
in different areas.? 

ADMINISTRATIVE HURDLES -- Again, that can all be automated.? I created a Maker 
plug-in that centrally manages templates, for example.? If you're careful about 
your template maintenance you don't even need that and can devise an easy 
workflow that you can automate via ExtendScript.? Likewise with the other 
issues you mentioned.? For example, I made a number of cleanup plug-ins for 
free because they're that simple to do.

SOURCE IN BINARY -- Get thee to DITA.? HTML is not a suitable source in the 
end, because it captures too little of structure and semantics.? What other 
binary format are you considering -- TeX?? I work in DITA, and use SVN.? A vast 
improvement for me.

CRASHING -- Yes, that's a serious problem.? I can tell you that Maker 11 

Re: Embarrasing simple question - identifying current style

2013-06-28 Thread David Spreadbury
Or position your cursor in the word, phrase,  whatever and press Ctrl+m, whether structure or not. That will open the paragraph designer.
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Re: Basic (Silly) Questions ?

2013-06-28 Thread David Spreadbury
Calibre has the ability to convert an ebook to PDF. Calibre is a free download 
and supports most all ebook formats.





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Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 11:07 AM
Subject: Re: Basic (Silly) Questions ?
 


Hi Peter...

It depends on the type of ebook file .. what is the file extension?

No .. you can't directly open it in FM or Word.

As long as it's not DRM'd (password protected with restricted
access), you should be able to do one of the following ..

- Change the file extension to .zip, then use an unzipper
application to extract the files .. then open the HTML (or
XHTML) files in a browser and print from there.

- Install Sigil (http://code.google.com/p/sigil/). This will let
you open the EPUB (assuming this is an EPUB file), and I believe
it has a print feature.

- If you happen to have Oxygen XML Editor, this will also let
you open an EPUB and print the chapters.

However, people use the term ebook for all sorts of files, so
if this isn't an EPUB, these options may not work.

Cheers,

...scott

 
On 6/28/13 8:19 AM, Peter Courlis wrote:

Someone asked me to review a transcript, 

except it is in an E Book file .


- Can one print (on paper) an Ebook via Framemaker or Windoze Word 

(on Win XP) ?
- Can the file be saved in a typical PDF Reader ?


Thanks in Advance


peter




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Re: Basic (Silly) Questions ?

2013-06-28 Thread David Spreadbury
Someone posted that Calibre is a difficult application to use. But, to convert 
an epub format to PDF is actually pretty simple. Add the ebook, select the 
book, then select Convert and chose PDF.

And, as a side point, there are no such things as silly questions. If you don't 
know the answer, it is a valid question.





 From: David Spreadbury dspre...@yahoo.com
To: Scott Prentice s...@leximation.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com 
framers@lists.frameusers.com 
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 11:19 AM
Subject: Re: Basic (Silly) Questions ?
 


Calibre has the ability to convert an ebook to PDF. Calibre is a free download 
and supports most all ebook formats.





 From: Scott Prentice s...@leximation.com
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com 
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 11:07 AM
Subject: Re: Basic (Silly) Questions ?
 


Hi Peter...

It depends on the type of ebook file .. what is the file extension?

No .. you can't directly open it in FM or Word.

As long as it's not DRM'd (password protected with restricted
access), you should be able to do one of the following ..

- Change the file extension to .zip, then use an unzipper
application to extract the files .. then open the HTML (or
XHTML) files in a browser and print from there.

- Install Sigil (http://code.google.com/p/sigil/). This will let
you open the EPUB (assuming this is an EPUB file), and I believe
it has a print feature.

- If you happen to have Oxygen XML Editor, this will also let
you open an EPUB and print the chapters.

However, people use the term ebook for all sorts of files, so
if this isn't an EPUB, these options may not work.

Cheers,

...scott

 
On 6/28/13 8:19 AM, Peter Courlis wrote:

Someone asked me to review a transcript, 

except it is in an E Book file .


- Can one print (on paper) an Ebook via Framemaker or Windoze Word 

(on Win XP) ?
- Can the file be saved in a typical PDF Reader ?


Thanks in Advance


peter




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Embarrasing simple question - identifying current style

2013-06-28 Thread David Spreadbury
Or position your cursor in the word, phrase,? whatever and press Ctrl+m, 
whether structure or not. That will open the paragraph designer.

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Basic (Silly) Questions ?

2013-06-28 Thread David Spreadbury
Calibre has the ability to convert an ebook to PDF. Calibre is a free download 
and supports most all ebook formats.





 From: Scott Prentice 
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com 
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 11:07 AM
Subject: Re: Basic (Silly) Questions ?



Hi Peter...

It depends on the type of ebook file .. what is the file extension?

No .. you can't directly open it in FM or Word.

As long as it's not DRM'd (password protected with restricted
access), you should be able to do one of the following ..

- Change the file extension to ".zip", then use an unzipper
application to extract the files .. then open the HTML (or
"XHTML") files in a browser and print from there.

- Install Sigil (http://code.google.com/p/sigil/). This will let
you open the EPUB (assuming this is an EPUB file), and I believe
it has a print feature.

- If you happen to have Oxygen XML Editor, this will also let
you open an EPUB and print the chapters.

However, people use the term "ebook" for all sorts of files, so
if this isn't an EPUB, these options may not work.

Cheers,

...scott


On 6/28/13 8:19 AM, Peter Courlis wrote:

Someone asked me to review a transcript, 
>
>except it is in an E Book file .
>
>
>- Can one print (on paper) an Ebook via Framemaker or Windoze Word 
>
>(on Win XP) ?
>- Can the file be saved in a typical PDF Reader ?
>
>
>Thanks in Advance
>
>
>peter
>
>
>

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Basic (Silly) Questions ?

2013-06-28 Thread David Spreadbury
Someone posted that Calibre is a difficult application to use. But, to convert 
an epub format to PDF is actually pretty simple. Add the ebook, select the 
book, then select Convert and chose PDF.

And, as a side point, there are no such things as silly questions. If you don't 
know the answer, it is a valid question.





 From: David Spreadbury 
To: Scott Prentice ; "framers at lists.frameusers.com" 
 
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 11:19 AM
Subject: Re: Basic (Silly) Questions ?



Calibre has the ability to convert an ebook to PDF. Calibre is a free download 
and supports most all ebook formats.





 From: Scott Prentice 
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com 
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 11:07 AM
Subject: Re: Basic (Silly) Questions ?



Hi Peter...

It depends on the type of ebook file .. what is the file extension?

No .. you can't directly open it in FM or Word.

As long as it's not DRM'd (password protected with restricted
access), you should be able to do one of the following ..

- Change the file extension to ".zip", then use an unzipper
application to extract the files .. then open the HTML (or
"XHTML") files in a browser and print from there.

- Install Sigil (http://code.google.com/p/sigil/). This will let
you open the EPUB (assuming this is an EPUB file), and I believe
it has a print feature.

- If you happen to have Oxygen XML Editor, this will also let
you open an EPUB and print the chapters.

However, people use the term "ebook" for all sorts of files, so
if this isn't an EPUB, these options may not work.

Cheers,

...scott


On 6/28/13 8:19 AM, Peter Courlis wrote:

Someone asked me to review a transcript, 
>
>except it is in an E Book file .
>
>
>- Can one print (on paper) an Ebook via Framemaker or Windoze Word 
>
>(on Win XP) ?
>- Can the file be saved in a typical PDF Reader ?
>
>
>Thanks in Advance
>
>
>peter
>
>
>

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Re: Anyone know of an FM to TeX converter

2013-05-28 Thread David Spreadbury
Syed,
If you do a search for convert to LaTeX you will find several ways listed, 
but none from raw FrameMaker. But, there are ways to convert Word or RTF to 
LaTex, as well as HTML to LaTex. Not the cleanest I am sure, but maybe 
possible. Frame - Word or RTF -- Word/RTF - LaTeX??





 From: Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) syed.hos...@aeris.net
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com 
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 3:27 PM
Subject: Anyone know of an FM to TeX converter
 

Hi, all.

As the subject says ... a MIF (or binary-FM) to TeX would be a good tool!

LaTeX would be far more useful, but I suspect that getting a clean fit from 
_any_ given FM file to templates in LaTeX might be difficult. Getting the 
output close enough would be workable, as long as I could tweak the output 
files to make them work out well in LaTeX.

In my search to reduce my dependency on FrameMaker (because of the recent Adobe 
pricing and cloud decisions), I am hoping to change my 17+ years of FrameMaker 
files to another format. I  have used LaTeX in the distant past, and for 90% of 
my specifications written in FrameMaker, it would be a completely workable 
solution! The remaining ones could be moved to Word.

Z

P.S.: Jeremy (hoping you are reading this e-mail), does Mif2Go perhaps support 
output in TeX? Or any possible plans to do so? 

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Re: Anyone know of an FM to TeX converter

2013-05-28 Thread David Spreadbury
A little more searching found this link 
http://www.cs.stir.ac.uk/~kjt/software/framemaker/.
Maybe something there can help.





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To: Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) syed.hos...@aeris.net; 
framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com 
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 3:41 PM
Subject: Re: Anyone know of an FM to TeX converter
 


Syed,
If you do a search for convert to LaTeX you will find several ways listed, 
but none from raw FrameMaker. But, there are ways to convert Word or RTF to 
LaTex, as well as HTML to LaTex. Not the cleanest I am sure, but maybe 
possible. Frame - Word or RTF -- Word/RTF - LaTeX??





 From: Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) syed.hos...@aeris.net
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com 
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 3:27 PM
Subject: Anyone know of an FM to TeX converter
 

Hi, all.

As the subject says ... a MIF (or binary-FM) to TeX would be a good tool!

LaTeX would be far more useful, but I suspect that getting a clean fit from 
_any_ given FM file to templates in LaTeX might be difficult. Getting the 
output close enough would be workable, as long as I could tweak the output 
files to make them work out well in LaTeX.

In my search to reduce my dependency on FrameMaker (because of the recent Adobe 
pricing and cloud decisions), I am hoping to change my 17+ years of FrameMaker 
files to another format. I  have used LaTeX in the distant past, and for 90% of 
my specifications written in FrameMaker, it would be a completely workable 
solution! The remaining ones could be moved to
 Word.

Z

P.S.: Jeremy (hoping you are reading this e-mail), does Mif2Go perhaps support 
output in TeX? Or any possible plans to do so? 

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Anyone know of an FM to TeX "converter"

2013-05-28 Thread David Spreadbury
Syed,
If you do a search for "convert to LaTeX" you will find several ways listed, 
but none from raw FrameMaker. But, there are ways to convert Word or RTF to 
LaTex, as well as HTML to LaTex. Not the cleanest I am sure, but maybe 
possible. Frame -> Word or RTF -- Word/RTF -> LaTeX??





 From: "Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net)" 
To: "framers at lists.frameusers.com"  
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 3:27 PM
Subject: Anyone know of an FM to TeX "converter"


Hi, all.

As the subject says ... a MIF (or binary-FM) to TeX would be a good tool!

LaTeX would be far more useful, but I suspect that getting a clean fit from 
_any_ given FM file to templates in LaTeX might be difficult. Getting the 
output "close enough" would be workable, as long as I could tweak the output 
files to make them work out well in LaTeX.

In my search to reduce my dependency on FrameMaker (because of the recent Adobe 
pricing and cloud decisions), I am hoping to change my 17+ years of FrameMaker 
files to another format. I? have used LaTeX in the distant past, and for 90% of 
my specifications written in FrameMaker, it would be a completely workable 
solution! The remaining ones could be moved to Word.

Z

P.S.: Jeremy (hoping you are reading this e-mail), does Mif2Go perhaps support 
output in TeX? Or any possible plans to do so? 

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Anyone know of an FM to TeX "converter"

2013-05-28 Thread David Spreadbury
A little more searching found this link 
http://www.cs.stir.ac.uk/~kjt/software/framemaker/.
Maybe something there can help.





 From: David Spreadbury 
To: "Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net)" ; 
"framers at lists.frameusers.com"  
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 3:41 PM
Subject: Re: Anyone know of an FM to TeX "converter"



Syed,
If you do a search for "convert to LaTeX" you will find several ways listed, 
but none from raw FrameMaker. But, there are ways to convert Word or RTF to 
LaTex, as well as HTML to LaTex. Not the cleanest I am sure, but maybe 
possible. Frame -> Word or RTF -- Word/RTF -> LaTeX??





 From: "Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net)" 
To: "framers at lists.frameusers.com"  
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 3:27 PM
Subject: Anyone know of an FM to TeX "converter"


Hi, all.

As the subject says ... a MIF (or binary-FM) to TeX would be a good tool!

LaTeX would be far more useful, but I suspect that getting a clean fit from 
_any_ given FM file to templates in LaTeX might be difficult. Getting the 
output "close enough" would be workable, as long as I could tweak the output 
files to make them work out well in LaTeX.

In my search to reduce my dependency on FrameMaker (because of the recent Adobe 
pricing and cloud decisions), I am hoping to change my 17+ years of FrameMaker 
files to another format. I? have used LaTeX in the distant past, and for 90% of 
my specifications written in FrameMaker, it would be a completely workable 
solution! The remaining ones could be moved to
 Word.

Z

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output in TeX? Or any possible plans to do so? 

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Re: importing HTML into FrameMaker?

2013-05-03 Thread David Spreadbury
Robert,
I have had to do this in the past. I found a freeware app that will strip the 
HTML tags leaving raw ascii text. I then brought the text in and applied the 
appropriate tags to it. It is a two-step process, but it worked.

www.freeware.com has an app, html2text that can strip the tags. Of course, 
there are probably others available. Framescript might be able to do it too.
Dave





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To: framers@lists.frameusers.com 
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2013 5:24 PM
Subject: importing HTML into FrameMaker?
 

I occasionally need to take content from a MindTouch wiki and add it
to a FrameMaker doc. The wiki source is very basic HTML: h2, h3, p,
strong, ul, ol, tables, that's about it.

Is there a tool that will convert HTML to FrameMaker or MIF? Sort of
the reverse of RoboHelp / WebWorks / MIF2Go?

I have FrameScript.
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importing HTML into FrameMaker?

2013-05-03 Thread David Spreadbury
Robert,
I have had to do this in the past. I found a freeware app that will strip the 
HTML tags leaving raw ascii text. I then brought the text in and applied the 
appropriate tags to it. It is a two-step process, but it worked.

www.freeware.com has an app, html2text that can strip the tags. Of course, 
there are probably others available. Framescript might be able to do it too.
Dave




>
> From: Robert Lauriston 
>To: framers at lists.frameusers.com 
>Sent: Friday, May 3, 2013 5:24 PM
>Subject: importing HTML into FrameMaker?
> 
>
>I occasionally need to take content from a MindTouch wiki and add it
>to a FrameMaker doc. The wiki source is very basic HTML: h2, h3, p,
>strong, ul, ol, tables, that's about it.
>
>Is there a tool that will convert HTML to FrameMaker or MIF? Sort of
>the reverse of RoboHelp / WebWorks / MIF2Go?
>
>I have FrameScript.
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Re: Expand all elements in the Document view

2013-02-20 Thread David Spreadbury
Yves,
I don't believe there is a way to expand ALL elements. Only at each level of 
indention.






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To: framers@lists.frameusers.com 
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: Expand all elements in the Document view
 

Thank you for your answers Matt and David, but neither of your approaches 
expands ALL elements, for example in an EDD.




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Expand all elements in the Document view

2013-02-20 Thread David Spreadbury
Yves,
You can expand all elements at each level by pressing and holding the Shift key 
and clicking the expand (+).

HTH
Dave Spreadbury





>
> From: Yves Barbion 
>To: framers at lists.frameusers.com 
>Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 10:26 AM
>Subject: Expand all elements in the Document view
> 
>
>Hi group
>
>Is there a way to expand ALL elements in the Document view?
>
>This topic in the FM11 Help just tells me that it is possible, but it doesn't 
>tell me HOW:
>
>http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WSAC2EAE05-E688-41d5-8540-91F5E2D3981D.html
>
>Thanks.
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Expand all elements in the Document view

2013-02-20 Thread David Spreadbury
Yves,
I don't believe there is a way to expand ALL elements. Only at each level of 
indention.





>
> From: Yves Barbion 
>To: framers at lists.frameusers.com 
>Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 1:59 PM
>Subject: Re: Expand all elements in the Document view
> 
>
>Thank you for your answers Matt and David, but neither of your approaches 
>expands ALL elements, for example in an EDD.
>
>
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Re: FM 7 and CS6 Illustrator art

2013-02-04 Thread David Spreadbury
Richard,I use 7.2 and have no problem importing .ai files, as well as .eps into 
both Structured and Unstructured FM7.2 files.
But, back to the original question, if Arlyn needs to edit the Illustrator CS6 
files, and doesn't have the CS6 version, yes, the originator would have to save 
then source in a version that she has.






 From: Combs, Richard richard.co...@polycom.com
To: arlyn_...@ea.epson.com arlyn_...@ea.epson.com; 
framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com 
Sent: Monday, February 4, 2013 4:51 PM
Subject: RE: FM 7 and CS6 Illustrator art
 
arlyn_...@ea.epson.com wrote: 

 Does anyone know of any issues importing CS6 Illustrator art into FM 7? We're
 still using FM 7 (obviously) and one of our vendors is planning on upgrading
 to CS6. Will they need to back save to a previous version? I vaguely recall
 hearing about art import issues, but maybe that was with earlier versions of
 FM. Thanks!

FM 7.x doesn't have an Adobe Illustrator filter and doesn't support import of 
native *.ai files (I think that was added in FM 9). I recall reading somewhere 
(probably this list) that it sometimes works if you use the EPS filter, but 
it's not supported/recommended. Save the Illustrator images as EPS (with TIFF 
preview) or PDF and import that. SVG might be another option, if AI supports 
saving as that. Obviously, you wouldn't want to convert those lovely scalable 
graphics into bitmaps.

HTH!

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FM 7 and CS6 Illustrator art

2013-02-04 Thread David Spreadbury
Richard,I use 7.2 and have no problem importing .ai files, as well as .eps into 
both Structured and Unstructured FM7.2 files.
But, back to the original question, if Arlyn needs to edit the Illustrator CS6 
files, and doesn't have the CS6 version, yes, the originator would have to save 
then source in a version that she has.





>
> From: "Combs, Richard" 
>To: "Arlyn_Lee at ea.epson.com" ; "framers at 
>lists.frameusers.com"  
>Sent: Monday, February 4, 2013 4:51 PM
>Subject: RE: FM 7 and CS6 Illustrator art
> 
>Arlyn_Lee at ea.epson.com wrote: 
>
>> Does anyone know of any issues importing CS6 Illustrator art into FM 7? We're
>> still using FM 7 (obviously) and one of our vendors is planning on upgrading
>> to CS6. Will they need to back save to a previous version? I vaguely recall
>> hearing about art import issues, but maybe that was with earlier versions of
>> FM. Thanks!
>
>FM 7.x doesn't have an Adobe Illustrator filter and doesn't support import of 
>native *.ai files (I think that was added in FM 9). I recall reading somewhere 
>(probably this list) that it sometimes works if you use the EPS filter, but 
>it's not supported/recommended. Save the Illustrator images as EPS (with TIFF 
>preview) or PDF and import that. SVG might be another option, if AI supports 
>saving as that. Obviously, you wouldn't want to convert those lovely scalable 
>graphics into bitmaps.
>
>HTH!
>
>Richard G. Combs
>Senior Technical Writer
>Polycom, Inc.
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>303-223-5111
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Re: Converting Framemaker to Sharepoint

2012-09-18 Thread David Spreadbury
cynthia,
Excuse me if i sound ignorant, I didn't realize there was a Sharepoint to 
convert to. Sharepoint is, according to the Sharepoint 2010 Walkthrough Guide: 
SharePoint 2010 is the business collaboration platform of choice for the 
enterprise and the Internet.

It isn't a page layout or document processing tool, like FrameMaker, Word, and 
others.

Converting FrameMaker to Sharepoint tell me they want all the documentation in 
Microsoft Word. Word works well with Sharepoint. Large documents, especially as 
you add tables and illustrations, typical for Manuals or User Guides, doesn't 
work well in Word.

Your decision makes need to compare apples and apples, not apples and car 
engines. More information is available at http://www.microsoft.com/sharepoint. 
Get a copy of the Walkthrough Guide. Read the Introduction.






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Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 10:03 AM
Subject: Converting Framemaker to Sharepoint
 

 
Good morning all-
 
What a great group. I can’t  begin to tell you how helpful this group has been 
for me in the past. Unfortunately, I’ve lost the Framemaker debate and my 
company has elected to convert manual content to Sharepoint. 
 
Can anyone provide information how to effectively convert framemaker content 
to Sharepoint so I don’t have to cut and paste?
 
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Store Communications
DICK’S Sporting Goods, Inc.
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Converting Framemaker to Sharepoint

2012-09-18 Thread David Spreadbury
cynthia,
Excuse me if i sound ignorant, I didn't realize there was a Sharepoint to 
convert to. Sharepoint is, according to the Sharepoint 2010 Walkthrough Guide: 
"SharePoint 2010 is the business collaboration platform of choice for the 
enterprise and the Internet."

It isn't a page layout or document processing tool, like FrameMaker, Word, and 
others.

Converting FrameMaker to Sharepoint tell me they want all the documentation in 
Microsoft Word. Word works well with Sharepoint. Large documents, especially as 
you add tables and illustrations, typical for Manuals or User Guides, doesn't 
work well in Word.

Your decision makes need to compare apples and apples, not apples and car 
engines. More information is available at http://www.microsoft.com/sharepoint. 
Get a copy of the Walkthrough Guide. Read the Introduction.





>
> From: "Gilberti, Cynthia" 
>To: "framers at lists.frameusers.com"  
>Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 10:03 AM
>Subject: Converting Framemaker to Sharepoint
> 
>
> 
>Good morning all-
>?
>What a great group. I can?t? begin to tell you how helpful this group has been 
>for me in the past. Unfortunately, I?ve lost the Framemaker debate and my 
>company has elected to convert manual content to Sharepoint. 
>?
>Can anyone provide information how to effectively convert framemaker content 
>to Sharepoint so I don?t have to cut and paste?
>?
>Cindy Gilberti
>Store Communications
>DICK?S Sporting Goods, Inc.
>724-273-3711
>Cynthia.Gilberti at dcsg.com
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Re: Tips/tools/resources for converting unstructured to structured

2012-08-24 Thread David Spreadbury
Maxwell,
Thank you very much. I have been following this thread because I have one 
product line that is almost entirely Unstructured and would like to convert it 
to Structured, with eventually moving on to DITA. This list of videos looks 
like it should be able to get this project going smoothly.






 From: Maxwell Hoffmann mhoff...@adobe.com
To: Writer generic...@yahoo.ca; Pat Christenson pxen...@gmail.com; 
framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com 
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 4:59 PM
Subject: RE: Tips/tools/resources for converting unstructured to structured
 
The location of the Aldous webinar series has been moved to an Adobe server.

To speed things up for you on the link to Tom Aldous'  7-part series (it is 
excellent; I went through it), here are links to individual episodes:

Part 1: Unstructured To XML Workflow Series Part 1: Analyzing Your 
Unstructured Document - Preprocess Steps
    http://adobe.ly/PfkRYK
Part 2: Unstructured To XML Workflow Series Part 2: Creating A FrameMaker 
Conversion Table - Part 1
    http://adobe.ly/Q5BtGM
Part 3: Unstructured To XML Workflow Series Part 3: Creating A FrameMaker 
Conversion Table - Part 2
    http://adobe.ly/Pfl1Q1
Part 4: Unstructured To XML Workflow Series Part 4: Element Definition 
Document (EDD) - Home Grown or a Standard
    http://adobe.ly/Q5C0sf
Part 5: Unstructured To XML Workflow Series Part 5: Creating your Structured 
Template from an Unstructured One
    http://adobe.ly/Q5C8b9
Part 6: Unstructured To XML Workflow Series Part 6: Structure Applications and 
What Is Necessary and How To Create
    http://adobe.ly/Q5CjTY
Part 7: Unstructured To XML Workflow Series Part 7: Save As XML, Now What?
    http://adobe.ly/PfliCp

Each link will take you to what appears to be an event registration page. You 
will need to log in with free Adobe.com account credentials. If you have 
difficulties accessing the recording with the latest version of Chrome, try 
Firefox or Internet Explorer. 

NOTE: this series covers virtually every step for setting up a modified or 
customized structured application in FrameMaker (in addition to the 
conversion.) Please be aware that the latest version of FrameMaker (v11) has 
even better support for DITA out-of-the-box, so the experience would be 
easier, were you to upgrade to the latest version. Once you have set up a good 
set of conversion tables, they should work for most of your content, if your 
unstructured documents have consistent formatting.

I hope this set of links is helpful to all.


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Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 12:52 PM
To: Pat Christenson; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Tips/tools/resources for converting unstructured to structured

I haven't watched them, but Tom Aldous has e-seminars about conversion here: 
http://tmaldous.com/2012/03/05/7-part-e-seminar-series-unstructured-to-xml-framemaker-10-instructional-series/

Nadine


 I'm about to start a unstructured-to-structuredconversion project in 
 either Frame 9 or 10. Does anyone have any tips, tools or online 
 resources that would be helpful for such a project?
 
 Thanks for any suggestions.
 
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Fw: Hyperlink or cross reference to another book

2012-08-24 Thread David Spreadbury
Sorry I selected Reply and not Reply All.



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From: David Spreadbury dspre...@yahoo.com
To: Combs, Richard richard.co...@polycom.com 
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: Hyperlink or cross reference to another book
 

I have thought about using this scheme for some of my books. i have a lot fo 
references to other documents in the document set.
The gotcha is that the PDFs need to stay in the same relative relationship all 
the time, no exceptions.
If the PDFs are being distributed to customers, internally or externally, you 
have no control as to how they will be stored on the customers computer. If 
they copy one, and not the other(s), the link(s) won't work. If they later 
copy the other(s), will they place them in the same relationship? Again, you 
have no control. If the links don't work, due to the files not retaining the 
original relationship to each other, then your customers will not be happy.
As long as the relationship stays the same, from build to end user, then 
everyone will be happy and everything will
 work.







 From: Combs, Richard richard.co...@polycom.com
To: Pam Harper phar...@bailiwick.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com 
framers@lists.frameusers.com 
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 10:19 AM
Subject: RE: Hyperlink or cross reference to another book
 
Pam Harper wrote:

 Can I add a link in one book to another book? How would I do it in
 Frame 10. I want to reference a specific section in a another book and
 am not sure how to do it, despite searching for answers on this. 

I only vaguely remember how to do this, but I don't see any responses. 
Assuming your deliverables are PDF, I think using a cross-reference in FM 
will work if (1) both books and all the files in them are open when you 
create the two PDFs, and (2) in their final destinations, the relative path 
between the PDFs is the same as the relative path between the FM books. 

 If I
 use a cross reference, what would I select for a Building Block in the
 list?

The good news: You don't need to define a new cross-reference format. 
Presumably you already have a cross-reference format for pointing to a 
numbered section heading (using the $paranum building block). The bad news:
 I'm pretty certain there's no way to include the title of the other PDF in the 
cross-reference format (how would FM know what it's going to be?). I guess you 
could insert a second cross-reference to the $paratext of the book's title 
paragraph. 

You can include the $filename (name minus extension) or $fullfilename 
building block, but that's the FM chapter file name. It may or may not get 
translated into the PDF file name when you create the PDFs of the two books 
as specified above -- I'm not sure. Try it. Or create a cross-reference 
format specifically for xrefs to a particular book, with a definition 
something like: section $paranum in MyOtherBook 

HTH, and sorry for the vagueness and uncertainty. Maybe somebody else can 
confirm, clarify, or correct as needed. :-)




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Tips/tools/resources for converting unstructured to structured

2012-08-24 Thread David Spreadbury
Maxwell,
Thank you very much. I have been following this thread because I have one 
product line that is almost entirely Unstructured and would like to convert it 
to Structured, with eventually moving on to DITA. This list of videos looks 
like it should be able to get this project going smoothly.





>
> From: Maxwell Hoffmann 
>To: Writer ; Pat Christenson ; 
>"framers at lists.frameusers.com"  
>Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 4:59 PM
>Subject: RE: Tips/tools/resources for converting unstructured to structured
> 
>The location of the Aldous webinar series has been moved to an Adobe server.
>
>To speed things up for you on the link to Tom Aldous'? 7-part series (it is 
>excellent; I went through it), here are links to individual episodes:
>
>Part 1: Unstructured To XML Workflow Series Part 1: Analyzing Your 
>Unstructured Document - Preprocess Steps
>??? http://adobe.ly/PfkRYK
>Part 2: Unstructured To XML Workflow Series Part 2: Creating A FrameMaker 
>Conversion Table - Part 1
>??? http://adobe.ly/Q5BtGM
>Part 3: Unstructured To XML Workflow Series Part 3: Creating A FrameMaker 
>Conversion Table - Part 2
>??? http://adobe.ly/Pfl1Q1
>Part 4: Unstructured To XML Workflow Series Part 4: Element Definition 
>Document (EDD) - Home Grown or a Standard
>??? http://adobe.ly/Q5C0sf
>Part 5: Unstructured To XML Workflow Series Part 5: Creating your Structured 
>Template from an Unstructured One
>??? http://adobe.ly/Q5C8b9
>Part 6: Unstructured To XML Workflow Series Part 6: Structure Applications and 
>What Is Necessary and How To Create
>??? http://adobe.ly/Q5CjTY
>Part 7: Unstructured To XML Workflow Series Part 7: Save As XML, Now What?
>??? http://adobe.ly/PfliCp
>
>Each link will take you to what appears to be an event registration page. You 
>will need to log in with free Adobe.com account credentials. If you have 
>difficulties accessing the recording with the latest version of Chrome, try 
>Firefox or Internet Explorer. 
>
>NOTE: this series covers virtually every step for setting up a modified or 
>customized structured application in FrameMaker (in addition to the 
>conversion.) Please be aware that the latest version of FrameMaker (v11) has 
>even better support for DITA "out-of-the-box", so the experience would be 
>easier, were you to upgrade to the latest version. Once you have set up a good 
>set of conversion tables, they should work for most of your content, if your 
>unstructured documents have consistent formatting.
>
>I hope this set of links is helpful to all.
>
>
>Maxwell Hoffmann |? Product? Evangelist? |? Adobe? |? p. 503.336.5952? |? c. 
>503.805.3719? |? mhoffman at adobe.com 
>http://twitter.com/maxwellhoffmann -? 
>http://www.linkedin.com/in/maxwellhoffmann? blogs.adobe.com/techcomm
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at 
>lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Writer
>Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 12:52 PM
>To: Pat Christenson; framers at lists.frameusers.com
>Subject: Re: Tips/tools/resources for converting unstructured to structured
>
>I haven't watched them, but Tom Aldous has e-seminars about conversion here: 
>http://tmaldous.com/2012/03/05/7-part-e-seminar-series-unstructured-to-xml-framemaker-10-instructional-series/
>
>Nadine
>
>
>> I'm about to start a unstructured-to-structuredconversion project in 
>> either Frame 9 or 10. Does anyone have any tips, tools or online 
>> resources that would be helpful for such a project?
>> 
>> Thanks for any suggestions.
>> 
>> Pat Christenson
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Fw: Hyperlink or cross reference to another book

2012-08-24 Thread David Spreadbury
Sorry I selected Reply and not Reply All.



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>From: David Spreadbury 
>To: "Combs, Richard"  
>Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 10:50 AM
>Subject: Re: Hyperlink or cross reference to another book
> 
>
>I have thought about using this scheme for some of my books. i have a lot fo 
>references to other documents in the document set.
>The gotcha is that the PDFs need to stay in the same relative relationship all 
>the time, no exceptions.
>If the PDFs are being distributed to customers, internally or externally, you 
>have no control as to how they will be stored on the customers computer. If 
>they copy one, and not the other(s), the link(s) won't work. If they later 
>copy the other(s), will they place them in the same relationship? Again, you 
>have no control. If the links don't work, due to the files not retaining the 
>original relationship to each other, then your customers will not be happy.
>As long as the relationship stays the same, from build to end user, then 
>everyone will be happy and everything will
 work.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>> From: "Combs, Richard" 
>>To: Pam Harper ; "framers at lists.frameusers.com" 
>> 
>>Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 10:19 AM
>>Subject: RE: Hyperlink or cross reference to another book
>> 
>>Pam Harper wrote:
>>
>>> Can I add a link in one book to another book? How would I do it in
>>> Frame 10. I want to reference a specific section in a another book and
>>> am not sure how to do it, despite searching for answers on this. 
>>
>>I only vaguely remember how to do this, but I don't see any responses. 
>>Assuming your deliverables are PDF, I think using a cross-reference in FM 
>>will work if (1) both books and all the files in them are open when you 
>>create the two PDFs, and (2) in their final destinations, the relative path 
>>between the PDFs is the same as the relative path between the FM books. 
>>
>>> If I
>>> use a cross reference, what would I select for a Building Block in the
>>> list?
>>
>>The good news: You don't need to define a new cross-reference format. 
>>Presumably you already have a cross-reference format for pointing to a 
>>numbered section heading (using the <$paranum> building block). The bad news:
 I'm pretty certain there's no way to include the title of the other PDF in the 
cross-reference format (how would FM know what it's going to be?). I guess you 
could insert a second cross-reference to the <$paratext> of the book's title 
paragraph. 
>>
>>You can include the <$filename> (name minus extension) or <$fullfilename> 
>>building block, but that's the FM chapter file name. It may or may not get 
>>translated into the PDF file name when you create the PDFs of the two books 
>>as specified above -- I'm not sure. Try it. Or create a cross-reference 
>>format specifically for xrefs to a particular book, with a definition 
>>something like: "section <$paranum> in MyOtherBook" 
>>
>>HTH, and sorry for the vagueness and uncertainty. Maybe somebody else can 
>>confirm, clarify, or correct as needed. :-)
>>
>>
>>
>>
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