FrameMaker deals on eBay...
Hi... I just noticed a couple of good FM deals on eBay. FrameMaker Server 7.2 Windows - $2,950.00 (save $4000 off retail!) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemviewitem=item=300097209620 FrameMaker 7.2 Full Version for Windows - $579.95 (save $220 off retail) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemviewitem=item=110110291360 Disclaimer .. I have no affiliation with these sellers, and know nothing about the validity or legality of the items for sale .. as always, do your own research to make sure you're getting what you expect. :) Cheers! ...scott ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Conditional Text in Variables? (Or, how would you do this...?)
Hi Lin... You may want to take a look at a plugin we offer called BookVars. http://www.leximation.com/tools/info/bookvars.php This lets you maintain multiple variable definitions that can be swapped in for each other as needed. It sounds like it would do what you're looking for. Use the free 30-day trial to see if it works for you. Let me know if you have any questions. Regards, ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 Lin Surasky wrote: Hi all- I'm reasonably certain you can't set conditional text within a variable, which in essence is what I want to do so How would you do this? I'm on Windows XP, Unstructured FM 7.2, no FrameScript :( I need to generate release notes for a suite of applications; each application gets its own book (consisting of a cover, TOC and chapter(s) for content). In addition, each CUSTOMER gets their own version of the release notes for each application they receive. Obviously, this is a job for conditional text. Or is it variables? ;-) What I have so far is a single template that contains a condition for each application in the suite. For a particular application, all I need to do is hide all conditions except the one I'm working on, and I have the title, footer, and logo for the application all displayed as they should be. When all conditions are showing, the footer and title page are a mess, because they're full of XXX AAA Release NotesXXX BBB Release NotesXXX CCC Release Notes... Obviously, I can save some space by changing the variable definitions (used for the title and the footer) to just the name of the application and leave XXX Release Notes in plain text. But I still have multiple variables (one for each application in the suite: AAA, BBB, CCC, etc.) The question is, is there a way to maintain this with only one variable definition, or do I still need to have a different variable definition for each application? In theory, what I want is to define a single variable (i.e., Module Name) that will display AAA, BBB, or CCC depending on which condition is showing. In practice, I know you can't do it this way, but is there a simpler way than what I have set up already? Any insight from the pros is much appreciated! -Lin ___ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: need help selecting doc tools
Hi Aaron... FrameMaker and WebWorks are a very good combination, and would most likely do what's needed. However, you might want to get more clarification on how the source documentation may be integrated into the development environment as well as what types of output are expected and how that output is to be integrated into the shipping product. Being in the unique situation of setting things up, as you are, it's worth taking some extra time to make sure that the tools you choose will really provide the solution. Something that you may want to look into is using DITA as your underlying data model (if you're entertaining the idea of using structured authoring). One of the biggest problems that people have in using DITA is the migration of legacy content .. you don't have this problem. If the focus of your output is to online Help or web delivery, DITA's topic-oriented focus may be ideal. One of the benefits of using DITA is that through the OpenToolkit (free open source set of tools), you get all you need to generate various forms of online output (no WebWorks required). (Caveat: you will need to spend time/money modifying the XSLT transformations to get the output to look the way you want, but perhaps you've got some XSLT developers on staff(?).) Also, because DITA is XML, you can easily integrate (both in and out) with code in your development stream. If you're really on a tight budget, you could also forgo using FrameMaker and just use an XML editor (you do want to make sure that it really supports DITA in a useful way). This may be more than you really want to deal with, but it's probably worth looking into. For more info visit the following URL .. http://dita.xml.org/introduction Good luck! ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 Aaron Bennett wrote: Hello all: I am starting a new venture on Monday at a startup company that has never had a tech writer and needs me to write all the doc from scratch. I've been using FrameMaker 6.0 for several years now with WebWorks Professional 2003. My new boss (VP of Engineering) has asked me to put together a doc tools strategy plan for design and delivery for the technical documentation. Being a startup, my budget will be fairly low so content management systems are not an option at this point. I've been doing research over the past week and it's been a daunting process. What I'm thinking of purchasing is FrameMaker 7.2 and using it's structured capabilities. For HTML generation, I'm considering WebWorks ePublisher Pro. Is anyone using these two products together (and if so, could you share your thoughts). I'd also appreciate advise on other options. I'm thinking that I'll need training to get up and running, so if anyone can recommend trainers in the Massachusetts/NH/RI areas that would also be helpful. Thanks for your assistance, Aaron ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: document window size
Hi Natalie... If you're working on binary FM files (not opening an XML file), it *should* open to the size, zoom, and position that it was last saved. If you have the document minimized and you do a Save All Files .. it'll reopen in a minimized state. Or possibly someone else has been working on these files, and they are getting saved in other states. We have a plugin called RestoreWindows that lets you specify the size, position and zoom for new or opened document windows, as well as the state and position of the other catalogs, palettes, and windows. You can use the 30-day trial to give it a whirl. http://www.leximation.com/tools/info/restorewindows.php This is most useful for XML files, but also alleviates the problem you describe in a multi-user environment. ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 Natalie Bircher wrote: Can I specify the size of the window that opens when I open a new file? Sometimes the window opens at 120% sometimes it opens as a rectangle, and other times it just opens the file and is minimized at the bottom of the screen. My objective is to have the window open at 83% so I can view the info without having to resize the windows. At times, I wish I had a HUGE monitor to organize all the open files, structure box, tools, designer boxes, etc. that I have to work with at one time. How do you all organize your workspace? Natalie Bircher Technical Writer BackStreet Media Phone: 320-843-4337 Fax: 320-842-4236 Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: OT: Business insurance for independent contractors
Check out techinsurance.com. We've got both professional liability and business insurance through them and have been very happy with their service and price. If you check around, you'll get wildly differing quotes for supposedly the same coverage. From what I found, most insurance brokers don't really understand the varying types of tech that need to be insured, and often lump them all into the same (very pricey) category. Good luck! ...scott Pat Christenson wrote: Are any of the independent contractors here carrying business insurance? It's been some time since I last checked on it but when I did, I found the cost to be very high and the coverage less than adequate. I was told at the time that very few companies would cover an independent contractor doing computer-related work (doc production) because they don't differentiate between for instance, someone setting up a payroll system who could do immense damage to a client and someone like me (setting up FrameMaker templates where it would be almost impossible to do large damage. When clients require insurance, I end up working through an agency but I'd prefer to be an IC. Anyway, if anyone here is carrying it, I'd be interested to hear about your experience. Feel free to contact me offlist. Thanks. Pat Christenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/sp%40leximation.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: xref help
Hi Joanne... This process may be different if your structured files were XML-sourced or structured FM binary files .. and if you still have the structured version or if it has already been flattened. I have some plugin code that processes cross-refs (to and from structure) that could probably be tweaked to do what you need .. it would depend on how much of the link still exists in the files. If its too far gone you may need to do some processing of MIF files to reconnect the broken references. If you're still in need of help with this feel free to send me an email off-list and we can talk more about what may be needed. ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 That Darned Writer wrote: Thanks, Art. As I wrote to Fred, we are grasping for anything at this point - there are so many now-broken references and (of course) little time. We do use IXGen here, so we can give that a try. Art Campbell wrote: I think Fred's comments are accurate, but if you do decide you want to muck with markers, IXGen accomodates all types of FM markers, not just index markers. So that would be my tool of choice... Art On 5/8/07, Ridder, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you may be under a (common) misconception about the marker/paragraph option in the Cross-Reference dialog. That option does *not* change anything about the cross- references themselves. The option only changes the information that is displayed in the dialog. In the one case, the dialog presents you with a list of existing x-ref markers snip ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: DITA for training materials?
Structured FM (regardless of the data model) can offer benefits with regard to consistency and control. There have recently been a number of threads on this subject. Whether DITA offers any specific advantages over another data model is yet to be seen. Even though your client may not seem to be a good candidate for reuse, I'll bet that they do use repetitive blocks of content or phrases that could benefit from DITA's conref feature. Also, if they produce different versions of their training material (beginner, advanced, ??) they might find that being able to easily generate different versions of content by including/excluding specific topics from the output might be a nice thing. One other possible advantage of using XML (not necessarily DITA) is that it might allow for tighter integration with the software strings. There is a recently formed OASIS subcommittee that is developing a DITA specialization for Learning and Training. This may focus more on computer-based training output, but it might of interest to your client .. http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=dita-learningspec Granted, there may be a fair amount of initial overhead to move in this direction, but doing so may open up new opportunities that they hadn't considered. It certainly seems worth investigating. ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 Pat Christenson wrote: I have a client who wants to move from Word to FrameMaker for their training materials. Someone else told them they should go to Structured FrameMaker/DITA. The training group has only one output for their materials - print. They don't reuse the materials except to revise them with software updates. Does Structured FM/DITA offer any benefit to such a group? I know it's a lot more overhead getting it set up and with just one output and no multipurposing, I don't see the usefulness. Thanks. Pat ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Nested ul and ol elements
Hi Rick... Grab the DITA App Pack and take a look at the EDD that is part of the DITA-Topic-FM structapp .. I think it will do pretty much what you want (although you may need to take it to additional levels). http://www.adobe.com/go/dita/ Cheers! ...scott Rick Quatro wrote: Hello Framers, I need help with text formatting rules in an EDD. Basically, I am allowing nesting of ol and ul elements. I need rules that will allow a particular format to be called, depending on the nesting level. Here is an example of flat structure. The text in the element indicates the paragraph format used. ul libullet1/li ul ol linumber1/li ol For nested ul elements, it is no problem. In theory, I can do the same thing with ol elements (although in practice I don't). ul libullet1/li ul libullet2/li ul libullet3/li ul libullet4/li ul ul ul ul What I want to be able to do is this ul libullet1/li ol linumber2/li ul libullet3/li ol linumber4/li ol ul ol ul or this ol linumber1/li ul libullet2/li ul libullet3/li ol linumber4/li ol ul ul ol or any combination of nested ol and ul elements. I am having trouble devising the correct text formatting rules. Any help or pointers would be appreciated. Thanks. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FrameMaker.next
I only saw one of the sneak peek sessions, and don't recall hearing anything about XML comments or specifics on DITA support .. but I'd like to point out that the stripping of comments isn't a DITA App Pack issue .. it's a Frame issue .. the App Pack actually warns you about it when you open a file with comments. So it's more like a medium than a big .. :) ...scott Bill Swallow wrote: On a serious note, what was discussed about DITA support? Currently the DITA package for FM has a few limitations and bigs (for example, stripping all XML comments from the files on use). Any indication that the DITA capabilities will be ready for prime time? On 5/17/07, Martinek, Carla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I sat in on a couple of the Adobe previews at the conference, and I'm seriously looking forward to Framemaker.next. We're 'thisclose' to converting to XML/Dita, and the feature improvements and support I saw coming from Adobe in the next version make me confident that staying in FM will be a smart choice for our smaller writing group. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: PDF Content reuse with Frame + DITA?
Hi Gyanesh... If your main goal is to publish two different sets of content from the same FM source files, I'd think that your best bet is to just use conditional text (show/hide) in unstructured FM files. There are probably benefits you could gain by moving to structure and/or DITA (and it can certainly be done with structure/DITA), but for what you're talking about, conditional text is really all you need. Just create two conditional tags and apply those tags to the content that is only for one product or the other (just don't overlap conditions) .. anything that is common to both would be left untagged. Use the conditional text show/hide settings to show one and hide the other, then generate your PDF. Cheers! ...scott Gyanesh Talwar wrote: Hello Framers, (Frame 7.2b144) For my product, I have 2 guides with similar content across different chapters. Can I publish two different PDFs from the same source (with selective content obviously). - How will this be done? Using topic IDs? - Is Show/hide a better option for this than Structured Frame? - Is it viable to use DITA for this? Some other EDD ...or custome made? TIA, Gyanesh ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: XML - graphics - import
Hi Richard... Maybe you could describe what the problem is. I'm assuming that the file isn't opening properly .. but what kind of errors are you getting? Do you have a structapp defined for this XML doctype? ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 Allen, Richard (Raytheon) wrote: Hi I have been trying to open up a XML document in FrameMaker 7.2 which contains graphic entities. I am at a los as to what I am missing. The graphics are declared at the top of the XML document instance. The structure of the XML document instance is valid. Anyone have a hint as to what I might look at to resolve this? Thanks Richard This message contains information that may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive mail for the addressee), you should not use, copy or disclose to anyone this message or any information contained in this message. If you have received this message in error, please so advise the sender by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: PDF Content reuse with Frame + DITA?
Hi Gyanesh... Each time you regenerate your book, the conditional settings in effect, will define the content shown in the generated lists (Index and TOC specifically). The index is generated from index markers, and they will be used (or not) depending on their conditional tagging. This isn't too bad if the index markers are within a paragraph that is tagged with a condition, but if you just want to conditionalize words within a marker, that's a bit tougher .. in general you'd need to create duplicate markers with different text, and conditionalize each marker accordingly. However this is difficult to maintain since it's very hard to just tag a single marker with a specific condition. There are a couple of plugins that help with conditionalized or variable content in a marker (MarkerTools and Index Tools Pro .. links below). It's a good practice to avoid conditional content within index entries .. it's one thing to include/exclude a marker in a specific output, but if you start messing with words within a marker, you'll go nuts. MarkerTools - http://www.leximation.com/tools/info/markertools.php Index Tools Pro - http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/Products.html The TOC is generated from the paragraph styles (headings) that you specify, and it will only pull in the content that is in a show state. As with markers, it's good to avoid conditionalizing specific words in headings .. it can be done but you have to be careful to conditionalize the spaces properly so you don't end up with too few or too many. Variables will show/hide along with the surrounding content that is tagged in a certain way. If you want to change the definition of a variable for different output types, you can change the values in a template and import that into all files into the book .. or use our BookVars plugin to swap the definitions as needed. BookVars - http://www.leximation.com/tools/info/bookvars.php If you're using DITA, depending on the method you're using to create the PDFs (through Frame or through the DITA-OT), you can still use conditional tagging, or you can use the filtering attributes on each element. With DITA, you'd typically set the filtering attributes on elements to determine the product, audience, etc. and when you generate your output, you'd filter out the elements that don't apply to that version (similar to using conditional tags). There's a great plugin (ABCM) for Frame that lets you apply conditions (and thus hide/show content) based on attribute values. This is a must if you're producing output through Frame and want to use attribute values to do the filtering (it's free too!). (If you're generating your output through the XSLT transformations in the DITA-OT, you'd do this filtering using a ditavals file.) ABCM - http://www.weststreetconsulting.com/WSC_ABCM.htm Good luck! ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 Gyanesh Talwar wrote: Thanks Scott! I think i will settle for show/hide. And if I do, is there a way to handle index/toc/variables (such as name of the book) automatically? Or do I do that manually? And let's say I have to implement DITA. Can I still publish two different PDFs selectively? And how will I carry out the selection of text in Structured Frame? Thanks again! Gyanesh On 5/18/07, Scott Prentice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Gyanesh... If your main goal is to publish two different sets of content from the same FM source files, I'd think that your best bet is to just use conditional text (show/hide) in unstructured FM files. There are probably benefits you could gain by moving to structure and/or DITA (and it can certainly be done with structure/DITA), but for what you're talking about, conditional text is really all you need. Just create two conditional tags and apply those tags to the content that is only for one product or the other (just don't overlap conditions) .. anything that is common to both would be left untagged. Use the conditional text show/hide settings to show one and hide the other, then generate your PDF. Cheers! ...scott Gyanesh Talwar wrote: Hello Framers, (Frame 7.2b144) For my product, I have 2 guides with similar content across different chapters. Can I publish two different PDFs from the same source (with selective content obviously). - How will this be done? Using topic IDs? - Is Show/hide a better option for this than Structured Frame? - Is it viable to use DITA for this? Some other EDD ...or custome made? TIA, Gyanesh ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: PDF Content reuse with Frame + DITA?
Thanks Jeremy .. good point! Now that I read what I wrote, I can see how it could be misunderstood. I meant that even if you do duplicate and conditionalize markers just to change one word in that marker, it will become a mess to manage. :) The Index Tools Pro plugin claims to provide for conditional index entries .. I'm not sure what that means exactly, but it may perhaps make the process of conditionalizing individual markers easier. Our plugin, MarkerTools, lets you insert a custom building block into markers which maps to variables that are defined in your document .. in essence allowing you to have variables within markers (not possible without the plugin). This can give you a type of conditional control within a marker (especially when used in conjunction with BookVars). ...scott Jeremy H. Griffith wrote: On Sun, 20 May 2007 13:30:45 -0700, Scott Prentice wrote: It's a good practice to avoid conditional content within index entries .. it's one thing to include/exclude a marker in a specific output, but if you start messing with words within a marker, you'll go nuts. It's not only good practice, it's the law. ;-) Frame *implements* conditional text using markers. So it's flat-out impossible to conditionalize *within* a marker. As Scott says, the closest you can get to that is: you'd need to create duplicate markers with different text, and conditionalize each marker accordingly. However this is difficult to maintain ... -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.omsys.com/ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Getting data from xml into Frame was, Do I need to jump into the Structured FM pool?
Hi Carrie... For starters, you should get ahold of an XML diff tool (just google xml diff, and you'll see lots of options) so you can determine exactly what has changed between versions of this XML file. You should be able to get one of your developers to write an XSLT transformation that would generate a list of the parameters in the file, and you can compare that list to a TOC list generated from your Frame file .. this will let you determine what's missing or extra. In an ideal world, you might consider authoring the descriptions of the parameters and fields in XML (in Frame or another XML editor), then run an XSLT transformation on the descriptions file and the file provided by development to generate the source for your final documentation. You'd just open the generated file in Frame (after setting up a structure application), and it would be ready to print. The EDD could be set up to render any missing descriptions with a big red MISSING DESCRIPTION note, in which case you'd add that to the descriptions file and regenerate. Obviously this would take some time and money to set up, but in the long run will probably save a lot. Just having the ability to easily diff the versions of the XML file will probably be a big improvement though. Good luck! ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 Carrie Baker wrote: Slightly connected to this. We have Frame 7.2, not structured and are doing fine. We are a small (understaffed) department of 2 half time writers. There is one very large chapter of a user guide which is based on information from the programmers .xml file. Their xml file consists of a list of parameters with various explanations about them. This file is used by the application. As writers we need to list all of these parameters and explain them. Documentation began when the list was a very small list. The SME gave us a word file which was eventually converted to Frame with the information the users required. Since then everything has grown a lot. The xml file now contains a over 2000 parameters. Various tech writers worked on it over the years and at some point a lot of parameters were missed out. For every product release a large number of parameters are added to the list. The problem I am facing is how to identify the parameters that are currently missing from the Frame file, and in the future how to smoothly make sure the file is kept up to date. As new features are developed RD tell us which parameters are added, but if parameters are changed or removed we do not really have a way of tracking. RD tried to give us an Excel file (i.e. they opened their xml file in Excel and saved it for us), but it actually messed up the information, since there were also sub groups of parameters (e.g. parameter x contains the following 50 fields, then each field appeared as a stand alone parameter). As is mentioned below, Frame knows how to talk to xml, so what I am looking for is whether someone can tell me, how I can make my alphabetical list in FrameMaker (which I am willing to turn into a table or something else), talk directly to the xml list to see what is missing from my list and in future easily identify what to add. However, the entire content of the 2 lists are not identical, since the Frame file (or user guide) has to give the user a full explanation of the meaning of each parameter, which the .xml file does not do. (or what can I ask RD to do to help us, as each time they only give us this messed up Excel file) (Oh and my boss does not want to spend too much time on this!) __ Marcus wrote Structure can certainly help - if you store your manuals in XML all the manual work can be eliminated. Chances are your bug tracking system can export reports in XML. An XSLT stylesheet can very easily replace the existing version of this information so when next you open the document in FrameMaker, the data is all updated. Of course, this open up myriad possibilities for customisation of the bug information - separation of code and interface bugs, ordering by severity for developers and date for managers, whatever you can imagine. The point is that generating this information is best accomplished by your bug tracking software, not by FrameMaker. It can generate a report of open bugs, so why would you want to do exactly that in FrameMaker? You may want to dump it all into FrameMaker and conditionally display it - providing different views for different audiences is very much part of what FrameMaker should be responsible for. Probably the biggest gain that you can get out of XML is the ability to make your information span applications, but to do so you obviously need to look wider than FrameMaker. You're doing software manuals by the sound of it, so you presumably have access to programmers. If I was you, the first step would be sit down with a couple of them and see
Re: Getting data from xml into Frame was, Do I need to jump into the Structured FM pool?
XSLT is a scripting language for processing XML files. See .. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xslt XSLT is not a Frame-specific language, and if your developers use XML very much, someone is bound to be able to write a simple XSLT script to generate a list of parameters/fields .. something that might look very similar to a TOC that you would generate from Frame. With this you'd be able to do a visual compare between your FM TOC and the TOC generated from the XML file. ...scott Carrie Baker wrote: As I hoped I am getting some interesting answers. However, since I have not worked on structured Frame yet, and am not so famailiar with the terminology, can you explain was an XSLT transformation is? On 5/21/07, Scott Prentice wrote: Hi Carrie... For starters, you should get ahold of an XML diff tool (just google xml diff, and you'll see lots of options) so you can determine exactly what has changed between versions of this XML file. You should be able to get one of your developers to write an XSLT transformation that would generate a list of the parameters in the file, and you can compare that list to a TOC list generated from your Frame file .. this will let you determine what's missing or extra. In an ideal world, you might consider authoring the descriptions of the parameters and fields in XML (in Frame or another XML editor), then run an XSLT transformation on the descriptions file and the file provided by development to generate the source for your final documentation. You'd just open the generated file in Frame (after setting up a structure application), and it would be ready to print. The EDD could be set up to render any missing descriptions with a big red MISSING DESCRIPTION note, in which case you'd add that to the descriptions file and regenerate. Obviously this would take some time and money to set up, but in the long run will probably save a lot. Just having the ability to easily diff the versions of the XML file will probably be a big improvement though. Good luck! ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 Carrie Baker wrote: Slightly connected to this. We have Frame 7.2, not structured and are doing fine. We are a small (understaffed) department of 2 half time writers. There is one very large chapter of a user guide which is based on information from the programmers .xml file. Their xml file consists of a list of parameters with various explanations about them. This file is used by the application. As writers we need to list all of these parameters and explain them. Documentation began when the list was a very small list. The SME gave us a word file which was eventually converted to Frame with the information the users required. Since then everything has grown a lot. The xml file now contains a over 2000 parameters. Various tech writers worked on it over the years and at some point a lot of parameters were missed out. For every product release a large number of parameters are added to the list. The problem I am facing is how to identify the parameters that are currently missing from the Frame file, and in the future how to smoothly make sure the file is kept up to date. As new features are developed RD tell us which parameters are added, but if parameters are changed or removed we do not really have a way of tracking. RD tried to give us an Excel file (i.e. they opened their xml file in Excel and saved it for us), but it actually messed up the information, since there were also sub groups of parameters (e.g. parameter x contains the following 50 fields, then each field appeared as a stand alone parameter). As is mentioned below, Frame knows how to talk to xml, so what I am looking for is whether someone can tell me, how I can make my alphabetical list in FrameMaker (which I am willing to turn into a table or something else), talk directly to the xml list to see what is missing from my list and in future easily identify what to add. However, the entire content of the 2 lists are not identical, since the Frame file (or user guide) has to give the user a full explanation of the meaning of each parameter, which the .xml file does not do. (or what can I ask RD to do to help us, as each time they only give us this messed up Excel file) (Oh and my boss does not want to spend too much time on this!) __ Marcus wrote Structure can certainly help - if you store your manuals in XML all the manual work can be eliminated. Chances are your bug tracking system can export reports in XML. An XSLT stylesheet can very easily replace the existing version of this information so when next you open the document in FrameMaker, the data is all updated. Of course, this open up myriad possibilities for customisation of the bug information - separation of code and interface bugs, ordering by severity for developers and date for managers
Re: PDF Content reuse with Frame + DITA?
Hi Gyanesh... The best resource would be the framemaker-dita Yahoo group. Also there's the DITA App Pack and the associated forum .. http://www.adobe.com/go/dita/. ...scott Gyanesh Talwar wrote: Thanks Scott, Jeremy, and Linda, Based on your advise, I've played around with conditional text a little and my doubts are cleared. One last question: What is the best resource for Frame + DITA? Regards, Gyanesh On 5/21/07, Linda G. Gallagher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've admittedly missed the beginning of this thread, but I would like to comment on this: The Index Tools Pro plug-in claims to provide for conditional index entries .. I'm not sure what that means exactly, but it may perhaps make the process of conditionalizing individual markers easier. I've used this plug-in with conditions, and it does work to essentially apply a condition to index markers. You can also use variables in index entries with Index Tools Pro. I'm just a satisfied user. ~ Linda G. Gallagher TechCom Plus, LLC lindag at techcomplus dot com www.techcomplus.com 303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144 User guides, online help, FrameMaker and WebWorks ePublisher templates -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Prentice Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 3:20 PM To: Jeremy H. Griffith Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: PDF Content reuse with Frame + DITA? Thanks Jeremy .. good point! Now that I read what I wrote, I can see how it could be misunderstood. I meant that even if you do duplicate and conditionalize markers just to change one word in that marker, it will become a mess to manage. :) The Index Tools Pro plugin claims to provide for conditional index entries .. I'm not sure what that means exactly, but it may perhaps make the process of conditionalizing individual markers easier. Our plugin, MarkerTools, lets you insert a custom building block into markers which maps to variables that are defined in your document .. in essence allowing you to have variables within markers (not possible without the plugin). This can give you a type of conditional control within a marker (especially when used in conjunction with BookVars). ..scott Jeremy H. Griffith wrote: On Sun, 20 May 2007 13:30:45 -0700, Scott Prentice wrote: It's a good practice to avoid conditional content within index entries .. it's one thing to include/exclude a marker in a specific output, but if you start messing with words within a marker, you'll go nuts. It's not only good practice, it's the law. ;-) Frame *implements* conditional text using markers. So it's flat-out impossible to conditionalize *within* a marker. As Scott says, the closest you can get to that is: you'd need to create duplicate markers with different text, and conditionalize each marker accordingly. However this is difficult to maintain ... -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.omsys.com/ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Frame crashes when trying to generate output from DITA map... (cross posting)
Hi Gyanesh... I responded to your last posting, but just in case you didn't get it .. you should install the latest FM update (7.2p158). I have seen some odd problems with the version you're using. http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?product=22platform=Windows ...scott Gyanesh Talwar wrote: Hi All, Sorry for cross posting... but this is urgent... so I am cross posting this to Framers as well as the DITA+Frame yahoogroup. 7.2b144 OT 1.2.2 I have setup DITA and am trying to generate output from the test example, as explained in Adobe's Using the DITA OT with Frame Application Pack for DITA PDF. However, as soon as I say Generate Output, Frame asks to save the Ditamap file and Crashes … citing 7204, 6109890, and 7778516, 0. I even tried reallocating more space to my C to provide Frame more room, but it did not help. Anyone else also encountered this? Will uninstalling Framescript and other plugins help? Thanks in Advance, Gyanesh ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Frame crashes when trying to generate output from DITA map... (cross posting)
Hmm .. that sounds like a bug. The idea with the Generate Output command is that it generates output from the current file (map or topic). If you have no file open, it *should* tell you that no file is open when you choose the Build button. I'm wondering if you have some document open invisibly and that's confusing things (I'll do some testing to see if I can get it to break). However, in the future, you should open a file first, then run the command. ...scott Gyanesh Talwar wrote: Thanks again Scott! Yes, I've installed OT (properly or not-don't know) and sundry other components... Apache... JDK .. Java Help etc and have made the changes in system variables. Apart from this, the files we need to copy in various locations... DLLs ...ant sctips.. project.xml etc... and yes, Dita Options are pointing to the right locations. When I start Frame, I get the message that two of the (OT related) components are loaded. I am trying to generate output from the ditafm.ditamap file... haven't created my own yet. The problem is if I have nothing open... and just select Generate Output then also it crashes! Anyway, as I mentioned... I am doing it all over again on my colleagues PC. Hoping it will work this time. Thanks for your patience! :) Cheers, Gyanesh On 6/7/07, Scott Prentice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Gyanesh... Sorry .. I misunderstood which function you were using. I thought you were using the Build FM book from ditamap (yeah, I know you clearly said the Generate Output command). What happens if you save the map before running the Generate Output command? It only asks to save if the file was unsaved. Also, you can say No to the OK to save dialog .. try that as well. feel free to send me your files .. it's possible that there's something in your ditamap that the system doesn't like. Something else to check .. In the DITA Options dialog, do you have the Topic, Map, and Book structure application assigned properly to the corresponding options? When you start Frame, do you get any messages in the console window? Many people are successfully generating HTML and CHM output through the App Pack .. however, this requires that you have the DITA Open Toolkit installed properly as well (this is no small task). All the Generate Output command does is pass some parameters off to the OT, there is no CHM or HTML output processing provided with the App Pack. You may want to sign up for the framemaker-dita Yahoo group (http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/framemaker-dita/), since that's the forum where these things are discussed more regularly. ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 Gyanesh Talwar wrote: Hey Scott.. thanks again. And sorry, I didn't see your earlier message earlier. But, I am afraid, the patch hasn't solved my problem. I just have to say Generate Output and I hear that loud thud... everytime! I am trying to implement DITA on my colleagues machine. But guys, is there's anyone out there who has worked with DITA application pack successfully to generate CHMs or HTML? I am asking because I shared this problem with someone in the Frame development team... and the response wasn't very encouraging. This person just asked me to go for the 8 beta, as it has integrated DITA support... one doesn't need to grapple with the Application pack. Regards, Gyanesh On 6/5/07, Scott Prentice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Gyanesh... I responded to your last posting, but just in case you didn't get it .. you should install the latest FM update (7.2p158). I have seen some odd problems with the version you're using. http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?product=22platform=Windows ...scott Gyanesh Talwar wrote: Hi All, Sorry for cross posting... but this is urgent... so I am cross posting this to Framers as well as the DITA+Frame yahoogroup. 7.2b144 OT 1.2.2 I have setup DITA and am trying to generate output from the test example, as explained in Adobe's Using the DITA OT with Frame Application Pack for DITA PDF. However, as soon as I say Generate Output, Frame asks to save the Ditamap file and Crashes … citing 7204, 6109890, and 7778516, 0. I even tried reallocating more space to my C to provide Frame more room, but it did not help. Anyone else also encountered this? Will uninstalling Framescript and other plugins help? Thanks in Advance, Gyanesh ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Frame crashes when trying to generate output from DITA map... (cross posting)
Can you tell me which other plugins you've got installed? I'd like to try to resolve any conflicts. You can .. carefully .. delete elements from the EDD (just be sure to delete them from the general rules as well). It's best to clone the default structure applications and make your tweaks there. If you do trim down the data model, be aware that if you try to open other DITA files that have the elements you've removed from your EDD, you'll run into trouble. Rather than deleting elements, you might want to look into specializing the topic (or other topic-based container .. concept, task, reference) into a topic that only makes use of the elements that you want to use. This will keep things completely DITA-compliant. You may already have things set up this way, but just in case .. it's good practice to only allow the valid elements to be visible in the Element Catalog. To do this choose the Options button at the bottom of the Element Catalog window, and select the first option (Valid elements for working start to finish). This will keep the list of available elements to a minimum. ...scott Gyanesh Talwar wrote: It worked! I can create CHM and HTML now. Just implemented the same things on a fresh machine. I tried the tutorial example, as well as created a new DITAMAP. On my machine, it's probably conflicting with other DLLs, as I have other plug-ins installed. My next worry: the number of elements in DITA are too many. Can I just go and delete un-necessary elements? Regards, Gyanesh On 6/7/07, Gyanesh Talwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks again Scott! Yes, I've installed OT (properly or not-don't know) and sundry other components... Apache... JDK .. Java Help etc and have made the changes in system variables. Apart from this, the files we need to copy in various locations... DLLs ...ant sctips.. project.xml etc... and yes, Dita Options are pointing to the right locations. When I start Frame, I get the message that two of the (OT related) components are loaded. I am trying to generate output from the ditafm.ditamap file... haven't created my own yet. The problem is if I have nothing open... and just select Generate Output then also it crashes! Anyway, as I mentioned... I am doing it all over again on my colleagues PC. Hoping it will work this time. Thanks for your patience! :) Cheers, Gyanesh On 6/7/07, Scott Prentice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Gyanesh... Sorry .. I misunderstood which function you were using. I thought you were using the Build FM book from ditamap (yeah, I know you clearly said the Generate Output command). What happens if you save the map before running the Generate Output command? It only asks to save if the file was unsaved. Also, you can say No to the OK to save dialog .. try that as well. feel free to send me your files .. it's possible that there's something in your ditamap that the system doesn't like. Something else to check .. In the DITA Options dialog, do you have the Topic, Map, and Book structure application assigned properly to the corresponding options? When you start Frame, do you get any messages in the console window? Many people are successfully generating HTML and CHM output through the App Pack .. however, this requires that you have the DITA Open Toolkit installed properly as well (this is no small task). All the Generate Output command does is pass some parameters off to the OT, there is no CHM or HTML output processing provided with the App Pack. You may want to sign up for the framemaker-dita Yahoo group (http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/framemaker-dita/), since that's the forum where these things are discussed more regularly. ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 Gyanesh Talwar wrote: Hey Scott.. thanks again. And sorry, I didn't see your earlier message earlier. But, I am afraid, the patch hasn't solved my problem. I just have to say Generate Output and I hear that loud thud... everytime! I am trying to implement DITA on my colleagues machine. But guys, is there's anyone out there who has worked with DITA application pack successfully to generate CHMs or HTML? I am asking because I shared this problem with someone in the Frame development team... and the response wasn't very encouraging. This person just asked me to go for the 8 beta, as it has integrated DITA support... one doesn't need to grapple with the Application pack. Regards, Gyanesh On 6/5/07, Scott Prentice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Gyanesh... I responded to your last posting, but just in case you didn't get it .. you should install the latest FM update (7.2p158). I have seen some odd problems with the version you're using. http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?product=22platform=Windows ...scott Gyanesh Talwar wrote: Hi All, Sorry for cross posting... but this is urgent... so I
Re: Text insets: to be or not to be?
Text insets work fine in Structured Frame (but not so well if you're going to XML). If you are staying in Structured FM files, you might want to look into using InsetPlus from West Street Consulting (http://weststreetconsulting.com/WSC_InsetPlus.htm). This lets you do insets at the element level rather than the standard restriction of insets at the file level. (This works very much like the conref mechanism in DITA.) Also .. the plugin is free! ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 Rene Stephenson wrote: Carla, Thanks for your detailed insight! We're looking at a move to structured FM when the product line stabilizes. Should I be inferring from your statement that text insets don't play well in Structured FM? (Excuse me if my ignorance is showing...) Most (if not all) of the other places that we use text insets, we've kept the file to the smallest chunk possible and tried to avoid using anything above the body text level of formatting. But, a few of the text insets are used in over a dozen different places. Working around those as topical files at the book level could become a very involved slice-and-dice operation. Is that what's really necessary in all instances of text insets toward structure, or would using topical setup only for the chunks that are heavily condition tagged suffice? Thanks Rene Martinek, Carla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:We create a intro page (FrontPage) for each chapter, and then link in the topical files behind it. It works for us. (...) We set this up with the expectation that we will be moving to structured content (XML/DITA), and topical is the way to go for that. Also, once we move the topical content to XML, our Tech Support Help Desk will easily be able to grab and reuse the content for their needs. -Carla ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: system variables inside a user variable?
Hi Brian... You can use our MarkerTools plugin to embed variables within markers .. http://leximation.com/tools/info/markertools.php I believe that this functionality is also available with Index Tools Pro from Silicon Prairie as well .. http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/Products.html ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to put building blocks inside a user variable? Ideally I'd like to create a variable named CurrentYear that contains only the $year building block. For reasons unknown, I'd like to do this without modifying or using the existing current date, modification date, or creation date variables. Thank you for your time. Brian Darold Technical Documentation Manager Research Development Sage Software Healthcare Division 15151 NW 99th Street ● Alachua, FL 32615 Ph: 386.418.7562 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sagehealth.com/ www.sagehealth.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Need some FM tips
David Shaked (Wernick) wrote: snip 6. Can I create a book of books? My idea is to create a super-book that I can use for global operations such as find/replace or import-formats throughout a documentation set. However, I must be careful not to inadvertently change the page and chapter numbering or corrupt any XRefs while doing this. We offer a free plugin called ComboBook that builds a book from multiple books .. http://www.leximation.com/tools/info/combobook.php ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
ANN: Structure Snippets plugin v.1.00...
Leximation has just released v.1.00 of Structure Snippets. This FrameMaker plugin lets you save snippets of structured content and insert it as needed. This is very useful for inserting chunks of frequently used content as a template. You can store snippets locally for your personal use or on a shared server to be used by a group of writers. For more information, please visit .. http://www.leximation.com/tools/info/structuresnippets.php Feel free to download the plugin and use it for free for 30 days to see if might make your structured authoring more efficient. Don't hesitate to email me with any questions. Thanks, ...scott -- Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FrameMaker to Wiki conversion
Hi Will... I can't say if this is useful or not (minimal familiarity with Wiki formats), but if it would help to have an easy way to get to XML, you might try our (free) MIFML converter .. http://www.leximation.com/tools/mifml/ That will get your FM files to XML (MIFML), then all you have to do is write an XSL transformation to get to the Wiki format (perhaps not as easy as other options). You might also get some good mileage out of the HTML or XML conversions from Mif2Go .. http://www.omsys.com/dcl/omni.htm Good luck! ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 William Gaffga wrote: Apologies for the cross-post. Has anyone tried or know of a good way to go from Frame to a Wiki? We are looking at moving a library of keywords for a dev tool from FM to a wiki format. This would be a one time thing. I tried googling this and one fella does a FM-HTML-Wiki conversion with a lot of cleanup: http://edutechwiki.unige.ch/en/User_talk:Daniel_K._Schneider. We could write a tool to convert table entries to fill in the database, and I suspect that is our only solution but I figured I should first ask for experiences and feedback on this crazy idea. TIA. Will. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Save book as postcript
I can't really answer your question, but as far as I know the latest CudSpan files are here .. http://www.freeframers.org/freeware/cud/ Cheers! ...scott Morten Guldahl wrote: Hi everyone, I've been using the CudSpan DoBatch plugin for some batch manipulation of my FrameMaker books, but trusted the CudSpan documentation in that it is not possible to save a book as a PostScript file: There is a saveAs.doc.ps command, but according to the documentation saveAs.book.ps is not possible. Now someone tells me he's obtained a newer version of DoBatch where this is possible, but I can't find it anywhere. Can anyone of you confirm that there actually is such a thing? Kind regards Morten Guldahl Conax AS ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM 8 and Math
Dreamer. :) I haven't seen anything like that. ...scott Grant Hogarth wrote: Does FM8 support saving/exporting mathmatical formulas as anything *other* than bitmap graphics? (for example in vector (SVG, PS) or MathML formats)?? Grant Hogarth Senior Technical Writer Equis International - A Reuters Company +1 801 270 3180 (t) | +1 801 815 8353 (m) | +1 801 265 3999 (f) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reuters Messaging: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: www.equis.com TZ: Mountain (GMT +7) Reuters news and information reaches one billion people every day. Get the latest news at Reuters.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: OT: DITA id attribute values
Hi Rick... Your plan looks good. I think that the restrictions are .. - starts with an alpha character - contains alphanumeric, underscore, or hyphen characters - unlimited length (within reason) ...scott Rick Quatro wrote: Hi Framers, I am working on programmatically setting unique id values on all of the elements that require them in a DITA-based FrameMaker book. Are there any restrictions or recommendations for id values in DITA? My thought is to have a unique 3-character prefix for each book (i.e, abc), then I can generate a unique number suffix. So, an id might look like abc_562387 or abc-562387 Any advice will be appreciated. Thank you very much. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Changing the Way Structured Documents Open
If you're working with XML files, you need to open the template file for the structured application you're using and enable the settings there. When you open the XML file that uses that application, those settings will be applied to the newly opened file. If you're working with binary FM files that are structured, the settings *should* be saved with the file. ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, We're using Structured Frame 8. Is there a setting so that when we open documents, they always open with Element Boundaries with Tags enabled? If so, how do I do that? Thanks, Nancy Adams ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: problem install framemaker 8 trial version
You definitely don't need to uninstall FM7 to install the FM8 trial. In the dialog that asks for the serial number *should* be an option to choose the 30 Day Trial which doesn't need a serial number. It's right below the serial number fields .. run it again and see if you missed it. ...scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm attempting to download and install the free trial version of Framemaker 8 from the Adobe website. It downloads fine but during the install process I am asked for a serial number. I don't have one since this is a trial version. The Adobe support person I contacted first suggested re-downloading the sw (didn't help, the same thing happened), then said that I cannot run the trial of Frame 8 without first removing Frame 7 from my system. This isn't an option; we do our documentation work in Frame 7 here. I just wanted to evaluate Frame 8's conditional text features to see if we want to upgrade. Does this ring true - do I really need to remove Frame 7 to evaluate Frame 8? ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Mapping of Word styles to Framemaker paragrahps
Chris' plugins are at .. http://www.freeframers.org/freeware/cud/ but TemplateMapper's not there .. I think you have to make a special arrangement for that one. ...scott Susan Modlin wrote: Hi Rebecca, I have Chris' e-mail, but am not sure how he feels about sharing it. I'll contact him and ask him to reply to the list with the contact info he's willing to provide. ...Susan - Original Message From: rebecca officer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 4:50:14 AM Subject: Re: Mapping of Word styles to Framemaker paragrahps Anyone know how to get it? The cudspan website seems to have vanished off the face of the web. :-( Thanks, Rebecca Yves Barbion [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/20/07 11:32 PM I use Template Mapper for jobs like these. Template Mapper was developed by Chris Despopoulos http://www.telecable.es/personales/cud. It goes like this: 1. Open the Word file in FrameMaker (that's right, just open, not import). 2. Using Template Mapper, map the Word styles to the FrameMaker Formats of your template. This is really nice because you cannot only map Paragraph Formats, but also Character Formats, Table Formats, Cross-reference Formats and Condition Tags. And you have a nice mapping table in which you can simply select the FrameMaker Formats to which the Word styles should be mapped, so you can't make mistakes here. 3. Use these mapping tables in a Job Control Panel to apply this mapping to complete FrameMaker books. What's also nice thing about this, is that you get clean FrameMaker files: the list of Paragraph Formats will only contain the paratags of your FrameMaker template, not the Word styles (Normal, Heading 1, Heading 2, ...). Kind regards ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: BookVars with Frame 8
Hi Gillian... BookVars has not been updated (yet) to support FM8. It does seem to work fine as long as you're not using Unicode characters in your variables, although we haven't done extensive testing yet. The installer won't let you install to FM8, but if you have it installed on an earlier version of FM, you can do the following to manually install on FM8 .. 1. Copy the Pubs-Tools folder from your FM.n to FM.8 folder 2. Open the FM.n and FM.8 maker.ini files and copy the Pubs-Tools:BookVars line from the FM.n APIClients section to the FM.8 APIClients section. 3. Save the maker.ini file .. restart FM8. We plan to have all of our plugins updated to support FM8 by the end of October. If you run into any problems please let me know. Cheers, ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com Flato, Gillian wrote: Has anyone tried BookVars with Frame 8? Any problems? Thank you, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gillian Flato Technical Writer (Software) nanometrics 1550 Buckeye Dr. Milpitas, CA. 95035 (408.545.6316 7 408.232.5911 * [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] .com blocked::mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Conditional Build Expression
That *would* be sensible, but FM doesn't seem to allow parens in these expressions. It turns out that the NOT, when used within an expression, must be followed by AND .. and they must not be separated by a space. As in .. Condition A OR Condition B OR Condition C OR Condition D ANDNOT Condition E Nice, eh? ...soctt Lester C. Smalley wrote: Personally I would include parentheses to clearly indicate what the NOT clause applies to. For example, ( Condition A OR Condition B OR Condition C OR Condition D ) NOT Condition E is quite different than Condition A OR Condition B OR Condition C OR ( Condition D NOT Condition E ) I suspect that Frame is generating the message because of the ambiguity of what NOT applies to. On Monday, October 01, 2007 07:20 PM, Flato, Gillian wrote: | I am trying to create a build expression but Frame keeps telling me that | I am building an invalid build expression. What is invalid about the | following expression: | | Condition A OR Condition B OR Condition C OR Condition D NOT | Condition E | | Thank you, | | | Gillian Flato | Technical Writer (Software) | nanometrics | 1550 Buckeye Dr. | Milpitas, CA. 95035 | (408.545.6316 | 7 408.232.5911 | * [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Lester --- Lester C. Smalley Email: lsmalley AT infocon DOT com Information Consultants, Inc. Phone: 302-239-2942 FAX: 302-239-1712 Yorklyn, DE 19736 Web: www.infocon.com --- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FrameMaker Console
However, plugins may make use of the console, and I believe that it will still open with this setting disabled. I find that the best thing to do is to leave it open. Once it is open, you can minimize it or let it go to the background and it won't pop to the front any more .. as long as you don't keep closing it, it shouldn't be much of a bother. :) ...scott Rick Henkel wrote: Flato, Gillian wrote: Does anyone know how to make it so that the annoying FrameMaker console doesn't open? On the Preferences dialog box, clear the Show File Translation Errors check box. Rick ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: DITA in Frame 7.2
Hi Paul... FM7.2 did ship with a DITA application, but it was more of an example, and not something that was actually usable in any practical way. Adobe offered the DITA App Pack for FM7.2 for some time, but when FM8 came out they pulled that to encourage people to move to FM8. We are offering a plugin called DITA-FMx which is available for FM7.2 (and 7.1 if needed). This is available at no cost from .. http://www.leximation.com/dita-fmx/ Let me know if you have any questions. Regards, ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was my understanding that 7.2 had support for DITA, but a search of the 7.2 help file found nothing for DITA. Do I need to go to 8.0? Thanks. best, Paul ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: looking for FrameMaker install location in the registry
Hi Jakob...
I've always used the first one ..
HKLM\Software\Adobe\FrameMaker\7.2\FMHome .. (assuming that you know the
version you're looking for ahead of time). If you want to know the
current version, use hte second one ..
HLKM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\App
Paths\Path\FrameMaker.exe\Path
Cheers,
...scott
Scott Prentice
Leximation, Inc.
www.leximation.com
+1.415.485.1892
Jakob Fix wrote:
Hello,
I am preparing an update installer to be deployed by authors in my
organisation. The update contains mainly updated EDDs and other
supporting files and will be copied to the Structure subdirectory.
I need to determine the location of where FrameMaker has been
installed, as not all authors have the same directory structure, so I
can't presume that FrameMaker will always be in C:\Program
Files\Adobe\FrameMaker7.2.
So, I think the location of where FrameMaker has been installed is
available somewhere in the registry (yes, this is Windows). However,
searching for the string Adobe\FrameMaker7.2 yielded several
results. Here are my candidates:
HKLM\Software\Adobe\FrameMaker\7.2\FMHome
HLKM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\App Paths\Path
HLKM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Installer\Folders
HLKM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\{...-...-}\InstallLocation
(where the string in between { and } is some kind of unique identifier.
I would be grateful for advice which key to choose as I am not sure
which one is the most reliable.
Thank you.
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Re: Distinguishing markers
There are a few plugins that will expand the markers in place, but MarkerTools lets you select multiple markers at once (or the whole file) and browse through them one at a time or filter on a specific marker type and get the total count of marker selected. (In addition to other useful features). http://leximation.com/tools/info/markertools.php You can see all available marker-related plugins (currently 10) in our Tool Search database .. http://leximation.com/toolsearch/?kwds=marker Cheers, ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 Stuart Rogers wrote: Doug wrote: Some of my documents have Index markers, Reference markers, and other markers all located such that you cannot see more than a single marker on the screen. The central way to determine how many markers there are is to count how many times the cursor fails to move each time you press an arrow key. Is there a way to make the markers display distinctly so you can distinguish them, if only temporarily? Not that I know of. However, if the Marker window is open when your cursor is on a marker, the type of marker will be displayed in the Marker window. If you have IXGen, you can expand (display) or collapse the text content of markers by marker type. If you don't have IXGen or another marker-management plug-in, you should buy one; it'll pay for itself the first time you use it. HTH, ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Tracing the Lineage of Text Insets
Hi Jim... A quick test shows me that the name of the referenced inset is visible as plain text within the binary FM file (FM7.2). I can't say for sure that this is 100% reliable, but I'll bet that it is. You should be able to do a text search (using a reliable tool .. not the default Windows Search) of the suspect inset host files using the filename of the inset. The only other way I know of would be with an FDK plugin or FrameScript that would crawl the directory structure, open each file and look for the inset .. I don't think that such a plugin/script exists, but it would be fairly simple to create. Good luck! ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 Pinkham, Jim wrote: I've learned of an error in a text inset for one of our manuals. It poses the obvious question of how many other manuals may carry the same error. Is there a streamlined way to determine which manuals may contain a particular text inset -- short of opening all 62 books and running the archive plug-in on each? TIA, Jim ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Tracing the Lineage of Text Insets
Yes .. excellent idea. BTW .. if you want an easy way to make an uber book, check out our ComboBook plugin (it's free) .. http://leximation.com/tools/info/combobook.php ...scott Pinkham, Jim wrote: Very cool idea, Carla. Thanks for this! -Original Message- From: Martinek, Carla [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 11:07 AM To: Pinkham, Jim; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Tracing the Lineage of Text Insets Jim - You don't need to run the archive plug-in on each book. What you can do is generate an LOR (List of References) file. Showing text insets is one of the options you can select when you create that file. You're still going to have to touch multiple files and/or books, no matter what you do. Depending on how your file are stored, you *could* create a new book just for this where you copy in all of the files from all of the books (or folders). Then add an LOR generated file the list. On the reference page setup, use these building blocks (you can remove the default pagenum building block if you don't need it). $fullfilename -- $referencename fullfilename = name of the path and container file referencename = name of the text inset You will get the full path and file name of the container document, and then the name of the text inset. Use a tab to divide the two building blocks so that you can easily convert the text in the generated list to a table and then sort it by the text inset name. Hope this helps. -Carla - CONFIDENTIAL- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential, and may also be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not review, use, copy, or distribute this message. If you receive this email in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply email and then delete this email. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Tracing the Lineage of Text Insets
Hi Jim... Many search programs have problems locating text within binary files .. some will just skip binary files entirely, others will just not do a good job at it. I've had good luck with TextPad's Find in Files command. It's very basic but doesn't seem to have problems with file types. You might want to make sure you're not doing a case sensitive search since it's possible that this may change on Windows. Also .. I may be wrong about this always being visible as plain text .. in my sample files it was, but there may be situations where it's not the case. Just for kicks, you might try opening the file that was skipped (that you know has the inset) in Notepad and do a Find for the inset filename (I assume you're just searching on the filename, and not the path since FM uses its own platform independent delimiters). If you find it, you'll know that the search tool was in error .. if you don't find it, then that means this is not a reliable option for locating insets. Let me know how it goes. ...scott Pinkham, Jim wrote: Hmm, Scott -- Quite possibly I'm missing something. I did a search in both Windows Desktop Search (all files in the folder in question) and Windows Grep 2.3 (all .fm files and then all files *.*). For the inset in question (JunkTrapOps.fm), I found the actual inset file in WDS and drew a total blank in Windows Grep. At this writing, the inset is known to be in at least six other files. Thoughts? Jim -Original Message- From: Scott Prentice Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 3:50 PM To: Pinkham, Jim Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Tracing the Lineage of Text Insets Hi Jim... A quick test shows me that the name of the referenced inset is visible as plain text within the binary FM file (FM7.2). I can't say for sure that this is 100% reliable, but I'll bet that it is. You should be able to do a text search (using a reliable tool .. not the default Windows Search) of the suspect inset host files using the filename of the inset. The only other way I know of would be with an FDK plugin or FrameScript that would crawl the directory structure, open each file and look for the inset .. I don't think that such a plugin/script exists, but it would be fairly simple to create. Good luck! ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 Pinkham, Jim wrote: I've learned of an error in a text inset for one of our manuals. It poses the obvious question of how many other manuals may carry the same error. Is there a streamlined way to determine which manuals may contain a particular text inset -- short of opening all 62 books and running the archive plug-in on each? TIA, Jim ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: How to verify what was the last release of FrameMaker 7.2
Locate the FrameMaker version/platform in the Support Updates section of adobe.com. FrameMaker for Windows shows 7.2p158 as the most recent update for the English version .. http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?product=22platform=Windows Cheers, ...scott Maxwell Hoffmann wrote: I have a customer who has encountered a known bug in FrameMaker 7.2. She wants to know how to verify whether there was a later patch for FrameMaker 7.2 available than what she has installed. I did a search in Adobe/User Forum/FrameMaker and was unable to find the answer to this. Does anyone know how to verify what was the latest version of FrameMaker 7.2? Maxwell Hoffmann Manager of Consulting Training Solutions ENLASO Corporation T: 805 494 9571 * F: 805 435 1920 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ♦ ENLASO Corporation provides quality enterprise language solutions and exceeds client expectations through continuing research, development, and implementation of effective localization processes and technologies. Visit: www.translate.com for more information or to subscribe to our complimentary localization newsletter. http://www.linkedin.com/in/maxwellhoffmann ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/sp%40leximation.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Can't See the Structure View Window
Hi Lin... Are you changing the StructureView/Postiion values in this INI file .. C:\Documents and Settings\USERNAME\Application Data\Adobe\FrameMaker\7.2\maker.ini Just set the first two values to 0 and it should come back when you restart FM. ...scott Lin Surasky wrote: Hi all- We moved offices over the weekend, and I reconfigured my dual monitor display a little bit. (Not sure if this is what's causing the problem, but I just thought I'd mention it in case it's important) Anyhoo, I can't see the Structure View window anymore. When I click the icon, the focus shifts off of the document window, but the Structure View window is nowhere to be seen. I tried playing with the coordinates in the maker.ini file, but either that's not the problem or I'm choosing the wrong numbers. Any clues? I'm on FM 7.2, Windows XP Pro 2000 SP-2. Thanks! Lin ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Shutdown
Hi Yves... You can make your own batch file to delete the font cache and shutdown Windows (there's probably a way to have Windows run a batch file on shutdown as well). Just remember to use your batch file when you shutdown instead of using the Start menu. For info on shutdown options, enter shutdown /? at a command prompt. Cheers, ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 Yves Barbion wrote: Hi Brian, it also happens to me, every now and then, in FM 7.2 and FM 8 when I try to create a PDF file. I still have no idea what the real cause of the problem is, but it helps if I do the following: 1. Delete my Windows font cache: c:\windows\system32\fntcache.dat 2. Restart Windows and FrameMaker. 3. Save as PDF or Print to Adobe PDF. Everything works fine again. By the way, Framers: it would be nice if I could use some script or .bat file to delete my font cache on Windows shutdown automatically. Any ideas for this? Kind regards ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: HTML to MIF?
Depending on the quality of your HTML, this could be fairly simple to do using Perl. ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 Adam Robey wrote: So, I'm looking for a way to produce a MIF file from a batch of HTML files. Looking through the list archives, I see that Omni Systems is/was considering the development of Go2Mif for this purpose. However, since I haven't heard anything recent about it, I'm assuming that its release isn't imminent, at any rate. Has anyone had any success in doing this? If so, what tools did you use? In the past, I've used XSLT to create MIF files from XML files. However, given that HTML frequently isn't well-formed XML, I'm not at all confident that an XSLT solution would be feasible. Anyway, any ideas would be greatly appreciated! -Adam Robey === Notice: This e-mail message, together with any attachments, contains information of Symyx Technologies, Inc. or any of its affiliates or subsidiaries that may be confidential, proprietary, copyrighted, privileged and/or protected work product, and is meant solely for the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, and have received this message in error, please contact the sender immediately, permanently delete the original and any copies of this email and any attachments thereto. ___ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Whitespace in DITA XML
Hi Rick... This is a standard Frame feature .. you'll need to strip the non-content whitespace from the files before opening them. :( ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 Rick Quatro wrote: Hello Framers, I am using FrameMaker 8 with DITA. I have pretty-printed XML files that I am importing using the DITA-Topic-FM application. When the XML file is converted to FM, it is preserving the white space from the XML file. Is there any way to avoid this, short of removing the spaces from the XML file? Thanks in advance. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: More than one API client in a structured application
Hi Rick... The short answer is .. No. I've often wondered about the possibility of making a wrapper client that would allow references to multiple clients .. but this would be problematic, since it would be possible for each client to mess with what the previous one did. It might make sense to have a wrapper that allowed access to specific import or export events .. hmm. ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 Rick Quatro wrote: Hi Structured Framers, Is it possible to use more than one API client with a structured application? In the structapps.fm document, you can only specify one UseAPIClient element. If you are using DITA, then the ditafm_app client is specified. Is there any way to use a second API client? Thanks in advance. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Closing all files in a book without saving?
Hi Marta... This is one feature of our FileTools plugin .. http://leximation.com/tools/info/filetools.php Download and give the 30-day free trial a test drive to see if it's worth buying. Cheers, ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 Berman, Marta wrote: Hi I know how to close all files in a book (Shift--File--Close All Files in Book) and how to save all files in a book (Shift--File--Save All Files in Book). Anyone know a way to close all files in a book at one time without being prompted to save each one (for the cases where you know there are no changes you want to keep, and don't want to keep clicking No, No, No...)? Thanks Marta Berman ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
ANN: StructureSnippets plugin available for FM8
Just a quick announcement to tell you that our StructureSnippets plugin is now available for FrameMaker 8. This plugin makes it easy to store and insert snippets of structured content. You can create snippet libraries that can be shared with all members of your team as well as private snippets for your own use. A snippet can be as small as a single element or as complex as an entire topic. You can use this as a way to provide templates for commonly used structures so authors can focus on providing the content rather than remembering exactly which elements are used for certain types of topics. This works with any data model (DITA, DocBook, or ??), as well as with structured binary FM files and XML/SGML. Feel free to give this a test drive with our 30-day trial .. http://leximation.com/tools/info/structuresnippets.php Note that if you're planning to attend the FrameMaker Chautauqua conference next month, you'll get a free copy of this plugin. For more info on the conference .. http://www.brightpathsolutions.com/pages/conf/2008chaut/index.html If you have any questions about the plugin, feel free to contact me directly. Cheers, ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Modularised EDDs?
Hi Hedley... Yes .. you can do this, and it works quite well (as long as you don't get too carried away with the modularization). A FM binary file can have any element at the root .. it may be invalid but it will open fine and if it's imported into a container EDD will work fine. Just keep in mind that if you update one of the insets, you do still need to open the root EDD and import that file into the template. Using this technique along with variables to define chunks of the EDD is a good approach for EDD maintenance. Note that this is how the structapp stub files have been implemented in DITA-FMx .. the stub files themselves are invalid, but when imported as an inset into the structapps file, work fine. Cheers, ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 Hedley Finger wrote: Lynne Price, Kay Whatley and others: The DITA DTDs are modularised to allow ready re-use, specialisation and maintenance. Is there any way to create a modularised EDD, with a skeleton host file and modules imported as text insets? I have been studying the Adobe documentation for developing structured applications but cannot find any reference to using text insets in this way. I read somewhere a couple of years ago that EDD fragments always require a root element that matches an element in the main host EDD skeleton, which would rather undermine this idea. But perhaps there is a special root element that can map onto ANY element in the host EDD -- a new feature in FM8? It seems to me that both the Adobe and Leximation EDDs could benefit from modularisation that exactly maps onto the *.dtd and *.mod files of the DITA schemas/DTDs. Regards, Hedley -- Hedley Stewart Finger 28 Regent Street Camberwell VIC 3124 Australia Tel. +61 3 9809 1229 Mobile +61 412 461 558, E-mail mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Dialog box annoyance
The resource hacker won't fix this issue, it will just let you change the fixed size of the dialog or placement/size of the widgets in the dialog. Fundamentally FM dialogs are not resizable .. that is, when you resize the dialog, the contents don't resize with the frame. This is an odd feature but as Richard points out, the fix is to stop doing it! :) BTW .. in FM8 the dialog frames are no longer resizable. ...scott Combs, Richard wrote: Whites wrote: Using FM 7.1/7,2 on Win XP sp2. I'm able to resize any dialog box in FM to any arbitrary size - even much larger or smaller than the active region within the dialog. (I'm not being very descriptive here.) Say the active region (entry fields, lists, etc) is 2 x 3. I can extend the dialog to some absurd size, say 7 x 9, leaving large ugly blank areas to the right and bottom of the active area. Interesting. I just checked an FM7.0 installation, and I'm seeing the same thing. It's a not-very-helpful feature/enhancement, since the annoyingly small text boxes in, for instance, the Marker dialog don't become any larger when you resize the dialog. I've never used it, but I understood that the ResourceHacker application which Stuart recommended made _useful_ dialog box changes possible -- larger text boxes, bigger fonts. The changes FM7.x enables are pointless. My recollection was that this did not happen back on FM5.5 on the Mac, but seems to be current standard misbehavior on the PC. This happens on two different PCs, one running 7.1 the other 7.2/ Just an aesthetic thing, but annoying. Can this be fixed in some configuration file? It doesn't happen in FM6 on WinXP either (my current working environment). But why is it annoying you? Dialogs don't resize spontaneously -- you have to hover the mouse pointer over an edge or corner until the resize arrows appear and then drag the edge or corner. So don't do that! Problem solved. :-) Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Dialog box annoyance
Hi Will... I actually at times found this feature to be useful .. rather than closing and reopening a dialog, I'd just roll it up (drag the bottom up so all that's left is the titlebar), then roll it back down when needed. if only there was a little button on the titlebar that would do that. ?? I've seen more and more people wanting the dialogs home command that you describe .. and I've run into the same situation at times when giving a demo after resizing down to a lower resolution for the projector, only to find that the structure view window is off screen .. annoying. If no one else does it sooner, I'm planning to make a simple plugin that brings all of the dialogs back to a visible location .. stay tuned. ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 William White wrote: What's the point in being grumpy if I don't let things annoy me?? Actually, I'm just surprised that an aesthetic bug like this has survived through multiple FM releases. So, I guess I'll just stop resizing. But here is something that I do think would be helpful - a keystroke sequence that would force all open dialogs to the center of the principal monitor - or, alternatively, closing and opening a dialog from the menu while holding down some key would force the dialog to the center when it reopens. I recently had a situation where I had been working on a dual monitor setup and had inadvertently left a dialog parked on my secondary monitor. Then I closed out of FM. When I relaunched FM, the secondary monitor was not available for some reason, meaning that the open dialog was out of view. I finally had to attach a secondary monitor to find the errant dialog. User error, to be sure, but still an unnecessary hassle. Will White ViaLogy LLC ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM8 Unicode Font issues and suggestions
Yikes. There seem to be a number of spacing-around-accented-characters problems cropping up. This is at least the third such version of a similar problem that I've heard of recently. Unfortunately, I'm not aware of a solution at this point .. other than trying other fonts. Maybe someone else can suggest a solution. ...scott Martinek, Carla wrote: OK... weird things are happening. I've got some Spanish content where I changed the font family to Arial Unicode (from plain old Arial). Accented characters suddenly developed massive spacing around them - for example: s ó lo instead of sólo I need to specify a Unicode font set for our FM8 docs going forward... Our current template specifies Arial and Times New Roman. I'm not married to either of them, but I NEED Unicode fonts to work in the files I have going forward for some of my docs that have multiple languages in them. There's 28 other languages in this same doc (a safety sheet), and I was *so* excited that I'd be able to do them all in one Frame file instead of having to use CorelDraw. Any suggestions? Settings to change in FM8? Replacement Unicode fonts to use? And of COURSE we're on a deadline... -Carla - CONFIDENTIAL- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential, and may also be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not review, use, copy, or distribute this message. If you receive this email in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply email and then delete this email. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/sp%40leximation.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Learning curve for FrameMaker
For a comprehensive list of FrameMaker plugins and many Framescripts, visit .. http://leximation.com/toolsearch/ ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 Linda G. Gallagher wrote: Most are called plug-ins. They extend FM's capabilities and are very handy. I use quite a few. There are also scripts that you use or create that let you do more customized things with your FM documents and books, usually using FrameScript. ~ Linda G. Gallagher TechCom Plus, LLC lindag at techcomplus dot com www.techcomplus.com 303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144 User guides, online help, FrameMaker and WebWorks ePublisher templates -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Deirdre Reagan Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 3:09 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Learning curve for FrameMaker Also, one other thing: FrameMaker has a lot of add-ons -- what are these called? Scripts that peope have written that you can buy and use with the program. I think I am understanding their purpose correctly. The equivalent of a macro in Word, I believe. Anyway, there are loads of them and many people use them often. Framers, is that correct? Deirdre ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Learning curve for FrameMaker
As usual .. an interesting writeup on this in Wikipedia .. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learning_curve Apparently there is some disagreement over this one [according to the author]. Cheers! ...scott Deirdre Reagan wrote: Thank you for that lesson, Richard. I had no idea. Deirdre On 4/30/08, Combs, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We're professional communicators, right? Can we please stop contributing to the misuse and misunderstanding of learning curve? A steep learning curve is one on which you acquire lots of knowledge (Y axis) in a short period of time (X axis). Something that takes a long time to learn has a shallow (or long) learning curve. Pedantically yours, Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/deirdre.reagan%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/sp%40leximation.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: OT: Monitor for color correction
I can't comment on the color-correctness of it .. but I recently bought a refurbished (by Apple) 20 Cinema Display, and *love* it. They go for $499 (free shipping) .. and come up from time to time on the Apple website. I needed to get a new display adapter that supported DVI (Radeon 9500 I believe, but am OOTO right now), but once all the pieces were in place it all just worked. I did some reading up on this and read about some horror stories of people trying to connect an Apple Cinema Display to a Windows PC .. and this adapter seems to work quite nicely. Cheers, ...scott Art Campbell wrote: I've been shopping too, although just fro general upgrade because my CRTs are near the end of their lives. The key thing to look for is an LCD that supports a wide color space -- as close to AdobeRGB (assuming that's your default) as possible. And also look at the menu controls -- not all LEDs have RGB color adjustments and if they don't, they can't be profiled. The LaCie 324 has gotten pretty good reviews and it's fairly cheap (about a grand), and Eizo, although they're pricier. There's a new 22 Dell ~$450 that's gotten decent reviews, but some people have complained about color shift across the screen; may just be new product bugs working out though. The Apple Cinemas are supposed to be pretty good also, and there's also an H-P that's pretty decent -- I have the model number written down at home, but it seems to be built on the same 22 base as the Dell -- specs seem to be about the same. Cheers, Art On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 1:09 PM, Mike Wickham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, all, I recently had the fun experience of having lightning strike. It blew out the phone and cable lines, and took out computers, all the network boxes, TVs, and lots of other electronic equipment. Some jacks were blown out of the walls and even knobs got blown off of a clothes dryer! One of the things that took a hit was my LaCie electron22blueIV monitor that I use for color correction of photos. It's not made anymore, so I'm looking to replace it with something else. Any suggestions? At one time, LCDs were not supposed to be good enough for this purpose, but that seems to have changed. Is anyone still selling CRTs for this purpose, or are LCDs by LaCie, Eizo, and others the only options now? I'm not against LCDs-- and would actually prefer one, if not outrageously expensive. Mike Wickham ___ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: [possible idiot question] Can DITA 8 live in FM 7?
Hi Art... Opening a structured document in unstructured mode will wipe out all of the structure. However, you can save an FM8 DITA file to an FM7 or MIF7 file and open it in FM7.x (as long as structured mode is enabled), make edits, then reopen in FM8 and save back to XML. It's possible that while in FM7.x if the wrong thing is edited, you might break a reference of some kind, but in general it *should* work. Note that it's not really recommended that you save DITA XML files to FM binary files and edit them (in FM8 or otherwise). People do this and in general it works fine, but you can run into problems saving back to XML and some of the auto-open features don't work right. However, you can install DITA-FMx 0.0 (free) on FM7.1 or FM7.2 and then you're able to open/edit an FM8 DITA XML file then give it back to the FM8 author and all would work just fine. (There's nothing special about an FM8 DITA file .. it's just DITA XML .. you can open/edit in any XML editor.) http://www.leximation.com/dita-fmx/ Cheers! ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 Art Campbell wrote: Has anyone tried creating a DITA document in FM 8, saving as FM 7 MIF, and then opening in unstructured 7.1 / 2? Can the 7.x user make text edits (not wholesale reformatting or tag changes) without trashing the hidden DITA structure and data? Thanks, Art ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Color of table borders...
Hi... I think I know the answer to this, but thought I'd check to make sure. Is there any way to set a color for table rules/borders? I'm not seeing one .. ?? Thanks! ...scott ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Color of table borders...
Hi Alan... Yeah .. I can set the color of the background of columns/rows .. but I'm not seeing a way to set the color of the ruling/borders .. thickness but not color. No? I'd like to be wrong here .. ?? :) Thanks, ...scott Alan Houser wrote: Hi Scott, Through the GUI? Table-Custom Ruling Shading lets you change properties of ruling styles, or create new ruling styles with different properties. -Alan --- Alan Houser, President Group Wellesley, Inc. 412-363-3481 www.groupwellesley.com Scott Prentice wrote: Hi... I think I know the answer to this, but thought I'd check to make sure. Is there any way to set a color for table rules/borders? I'm not seeing one .. ?? Thanks! ...scott ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Color of table borders...
Oh wait, I guess I should read more carefully .. Table Custom Ruling and Shading .. DUH ! I've seen that, but have never needed to do it so never went there. Thanks Alan! ...scott Scott Prentice wrote: Hi Alan... Yeah .. I can set the color of the background of columns/rows .. but I'm not seeing a way to set the color of the ruling/borders .. thickness but not color. No? I'd like to be wrong here .. ?? :) Thanks, ...scott Alan Houser wrote: Hi Scott, Through the GUI? Table-Custom Ruling Shading lets you change properties of ruling styles, or create new ruling styles with different properties. -Alan --- Alan Houser, President Group Wellesley, Inc. 412-363-3481 www.groupwellesley.com Scott Prentice wrote: Hi... I think I know the answer to this, but thought I'd check to make sure. Is there any way to set a color for table rules/borders? I'm not seeing one .. ?? Thanks! ...scott ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/sp%40leximation.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: condition-specific paragraph tags idea
Hi Ben... If you're trying to make it so when you tag a paragraph with a particular style, it also applies a named condition to that paragraph, you'd have to do that with an FDK plugin or FrameScript. It can be done, but not out of the box. ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 Ben Hechter wrote: Dear FM Gurus, Any thoughts on the possibility of creating condition-specific paragraph tags (eg para_red, para_blue) that would somehow magically set an associated condition? Ben ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Close all chapters without saving
FileTools does this .. although it closes all open files, not just those in a particular book. http://leximation.com/tools/info/filetools.php It does warn you twice before performing this action, just to be sure. No hate-mail yet! :) Cheers, ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi John, Such a plug-in would be easy to write. It also sounds like a sure-fire way to get lots of hate mail when it performs exactly as designed. Software dutifully follows the actions of the user, whereas the user expects the software to follow his intentions. Martin Quoting John Sgammato [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Inspired by Yves'request: is there a plug-in or framescript available somewhere which allows you to open all files in book while ignoring all missing files and fonts in book? I'd love to find a plugin that allows me to CLOSE all files in a book without saving them, essentially abandoning a book. john ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/sp%40leximation.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Ignore all missing files and fonts... in book
Hi Yves... FileTools does this as well. :) http://leximation.com/tools/info/filetools.php ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 Yves Barbion wrote: Hi Framers, is there a plug-in or framescript available somewhere which allows you to open all files in book while ignoring all missing files and fonts in book? Thanks in advance. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
ANN: Community KB - DITA/FrameMaker
I've created a knowledge base to help people with DITA/FrameMaker issues. This is set up so visitors can register and add their own tips, techniques, and troubleshooting info. It has initially been populated mostly with questions from maillists, but I'm hoping that you'll add your own items so this can provide quick answers to common problems. http://kb.leximation.com/dfm/ This provides tags to allow filtering on FM7.1, FM7.2 and FM8, as well as DITA-FMx (0.0 and 1.0) and FM8 DITA. Let me know if you have any questions or run into any problems. Cheers! ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: [framemaker-dita] Question about codeblock (DITA, structured frame)
Hi Kay...
As far as I know, only forced returns (aka SHIFT+ENTER) can be
preserved .. all normal returns (ENTER) must be converted to forced
returns to round trip. I assume you're wanting this for code samples
that are pasted in to a codeblock? The next version of DITA-FMx will
provide a command that allows this to happen in a friendly manner so you
don't have to manually replace all returns with forced returns.
You can do a search/replace to clean this up (if you're careful) ..
1) Select the codeblock
2) Ctrl+F
3) Enter \p as the text to find
4) Enter \r as the text to replace
5) Select look in Selection
6) Change All
Cheers,
...scott
Scott Prentice
Leximation, Inc.
www.leximation.com
+1.415.485.1892
Kay Whatley at Bright Path wrote:
Hello Framers:
I am trying to find some type of read/write rule available beyond:
element codeblock {
preserve line breaks;
}
Specifically, this particular project require the line breaks to be
preserved (using that rule), AND returns to be preserved (I can't find a
rule).
The document is already authored and the authors used return inside
their
codeblocks. Now they want them to be preserved. These are dropped on the
way to XML (DITA).
Hope I've described this clearly enough.
This company is using Frame 8 and the DITA app.
Any suggestions? Is there a way to preserve paragraph returns using a
rule?
Thank you,
Kay
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Re: [framemaker-dita] Question about codeblock (DITA, structuredframe)
Well .. typically if you've pasted in some code from a text file, you want the lines to be tight, so just one \r is all that's needed .. but if you do want more of a paragraph spacing, then two would be in order. ...scott Combs, Richard wrote: Scott Prentice wrote: As far as I know, only forced returns (aka SHIFT+ENTER) can be preserved .. all normal returns (ENTER) must be converted to forced returns to round trip. I assume you're wanting this for code samples that are pasted in to a codeblock? The next version of DITA-FMx will provide a command that allows this to happen in a friendly manner so you don't have to manually replace all returns with forced returns. You can do a search/replace to clean this up (if you're careful) .. 1) Select the codeblock 2) Ctrl+F 3) Enter \p as the text to find 4) Enter \r as the text to replace 5) Select look in Selection 6) Change All Shouldn't step (4) be Enter \r\r as the text to replace? Richard Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Plugins, Framescripts, etc.
You can find a list of *all* (that I'm aware of) plugins for FM at .. http://www.leximation.com/toolsearch/ (I know that wasn't exactly your question, but it seemed relevant.) Cheers, ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 Robert Rogge wrote: Hi Framers, I currently use Framemaker 8 to create unstructured pdf manuals. I do not have any of the cool plugins for chapter TOCs, indexes, wicked find/replace utilities, and I am not sure about what is available, so I thought I would ask the Framers! What plugins do you use and recommend? I imagine this thread being a discussion of what is available and what is recommended. Thanks! ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Plugins, Framescripts, etc.
Robert and Doug .. thanks for the suggestion! I'll definitely add a filtering option for FM versions, excellent idea. Until I can get to that, here's the list of plugins that are listed as FM8 compatible .. BookPageCount BookReport (FrameScript) ChapterTOC (FrameScript) DITA Open Toolkit Support DITA-FMx 1.0 FindChangeSpecial FrameSLT GlossBase ( FrameScript) IniSwitcher PageBreaks PageLabeler Structure Snippets TableCleaner Unfortunately this may not really be up to date, since I don't regularly track these things. This database is set up to allow the tool developers to log in and update their data and add new tools. I'm relying on those tool developers to update the system when they release a new version. Or if you (anyone) knows of any tools that have been updated or have suggestions for other tools that should be added, please let me know. Cheers, ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 Doug Cuff wrote: Regarding your list, Scott, very helpful but it would be really great if you could organize your plugin list by Framemaker compatibility Actually, what would be even nicer is in the search could include an option exclude-FrameMaker-versions-earlier-than. Yeah, that's kinda greedy of me. But my larger problem isn't with Scott's terrific list but rather with the fact that too many of the plugins I supported by buying are no longer being updated. (Silicon Prairie Software is one terrific exception.) My employer provides me with a FrameMaker 8 license on my work desktop, but this week I am using my own personal laptop with my own personal FrameMaker 7.1 license. Two plugins that simply do not work under FM8 will allow me to burn through tedious monkey-work in hours rather than days. Sadly, when I need a really complex find-and-replace, I save my files as MIF and use TextPipe Lite on 'em (datamystic.com/textpipe/web.html). That too is my own personal license, but now that I think of it, I shall point out to my employer just how useful it is in hopes they buy a few licenses. And since TextPipe Lite isn't a FrameMaker utility, it doesn't support finding and changing paragraph formats or anything like that. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Plugins, Framescripts, etc.
OK .. you can now search on FM versions .. http://leximation.com/toolsearch/?type=Pbaseapp=FMver=8.0 Cheers! ...scott Doug Cuff wrote: I'll definitely add a filtering option for FM versions, excellent idea. Wow--thanks! Colour me _chuffed_. Or if you (anyone) knows of any tools that have been updated or have suggestions for other tools that should be added, please let me know. Character Tools and Paragraph Tools (both from Silicon Prairie Software) have both been updated to work with FrameMaker 8. I have a sneaking suspicion that their other plugins are okay for FM8 too, but I don't know that of my own knowledge. Doug ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Renaming 300 linked graphics in Framemaker
I'd export the FM files to MIF, then use Perl (or some batch search and replace tool) to rename the references. ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 Andersen, Verner Engell VEA wrote: Hello Arrgh All my linked graphics have numbers as the file name, like 08-204. Now the company decision is that they should have letters, like analyzer_main. We plan to keep all file names the same in all translated languages. Is there an easy way to do this without having to reimport. Maybe there is a tool? Med venlig hilsen - Best regards Verner Andersen Technical Writer Radiometer Medical ApS Phone +45 3827 3612 Fax +45 3827 2727 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Radiometer Medical ApS Akandevej 21 2700 Bronshoj Denmark Phone: +45 38 27 38 27 CVR: 27 50 91 85 This message (including any attachments) contains confidential and/or proprietary information intended only for the addressee. Any unauthorized disclosure, copying, distribution or reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may constitute a violation of law. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by responding to this e-mail, and delete the message from your system. If you have any questions about this e-mail please notify the sender immediately. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/sp%40leximation.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Element boundaries
Hi Roger... For XML files, you need to set this property in the template associated with the structure application that you're using. Any document-based property set in the template will be passed on to the XML file when it's opened. Cheers, ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 Shuttleworth, Roger wrote: Hello All I am working with XML files in FM 7.1. I prefer to work with Element Boundaries visible, so after opening a file I set this option on the View menu. However, when I close the file and open another one, I have to set it again. Is there any way to have this set as a permanent preference? I searched the maker.ini file but there seems to be no option there. Thanks all. Roger Roger Shuttleworth TVWorks Canada, Inc. 150 Dufferin Avenue London, Ontario N6A 5N6 Canada 519 963-4368 www.tvworks.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Backup folder in Frame 7.0?
Hi Jack... I've got a plugin that will create the backup in a specified folder (in an absolute or relative location). One of these days I'll get around to posting it to my website, but if you (or anyone else) are interested in a beta version, contact me offlist. Cheers, ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 Jack Molisani wrote: I like that FM can make a backup copy of files, but I don't like the backup files cluttering up the same folder as the source files. Is there any way to specify where FrameMaker 7.0 should create the backup files? ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: IXGen with Structured FrameMaker
Hi... Our plugin MarkerTools, supports structured markers. It is in no way a replacement for IXGen, but it does provide a number of similar features, as well as many other useful features. http://leximation.com/tools/info/markertools.php Cheers, ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 Indira Rimkeit wrote: Hi Jennifer, We also used IXGen for editing indexes before we moved to structure, but found that is doesn't work with structured markers. You could ask the developer, Frank Stearns http://www.fsatools.com/, if he now has plans to support them, but as far as I know, he doesn't. Rick Quatro created a FrameScript for us to replace the IXGen functionality to generate a list of markers that you can edit and update, which works with structured markers. Indira Rimkeit Technical Publications Redback Networks, an Ericsson company Jennifer Collier Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/28/2008 07:49 PM To framers@lists.frameusers.com cc Subject IXgen with Structured FrameMaker? Does anyone out there have experience using IXgen with Structured FrameMaker? We are currently using FrameMaker 6.0 (unstructured). We're in the process of moving to FrameMaker 8 (structured). We want to make sure as we begin using IXgen to index our documents, we do it the best way for making it work with structured. I know IXgen doesn't officially work with structure but we've been told that there are people that are making it work well. Any tips, guidelines, or processes I should be following? Thanks for all the help in advance! Jen Collier ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Source Control for Frame
I'm not aware of any way to use source control for binary files (FM or otherwise) other than just being able to know if the file has changed (even that may not really be very accurate). And there's no way to do a useful diff of two FM files other than using the Compare utility in FM. This is one of the big advantages of using XML, since the files are text (as long as you use an XML-aware diff tool). You *could* store MIF files in your version control system, but then you'll need to add a MIF round-tripping workflow .. probably not a viable option. Hopefully someone else will have some other ideas. Cheers, ...scott Flato, Gillian wrote: Is there any source control out there that works really well with Frame? We have subversion here, but that can only read ASCII files. It stores Frame's proprietary files and graphics, but it can't do a diff report on them. Or at least, is there any source control that can read PDFs and do diff reports on them? Has anyone tried using PDM with Frame? My engineers are planning on implementing that for their DWG files and I could probably use it too. Thank you, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gillian Flato Technical Writer (Software) nanometrics 1550 Buckeye Dr. Milpitas, CA. 95035 (408.545.6316 7 408.232.5911 * [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] .com blocked::mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Source Control for Frame
Hi John... By handle binaries .. what did it actually do? Did it do a binary diff on the files and only store the changes or did it store each update as a whole blob? And did it provide you with the actual diffs of the content without running FM? ...scott John Posada wrote: When I was at EMC, we used Documentum for source control and it handled binaries just fine. You may, however, find the price tag a bit steep. Is there any source control out there that works really well with Frame? We have subversion here, but that can only read ASCII files. It stores ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Source Control for Frame
Sourcerer .. or it's replacement, ABCM, from West Street Consulting (http://www.weststreetconsulting.com/WSC_ABCM.htm), is a great tool for single sourcing with structured FM, but I'm not sure how it relates to source control systems. Cheers, ...scott David Spreadbury wrote: Have you looked at Sourcerer, from Advantica, Inc? Adobe has a Success Story at www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/pdfs/advantica_ss.pdf http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/pdfs/advantica_ss.pdf. --- On *Mon, 12/8/08, Scott Prentice *wrote: From: Scott Prentice Subject: Re: Source Control for Frame To: John Posada Cc: Framers List Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 1:59 PM Hi John... By handle binaries .. what did it actually do? Did it do a binary diff on the files and only store the changes or did it store each update as a whole blob? And did it provide you with the actual diffs of the content without running FM? ...scott John Posada wrote: When I was at EMC, we used Documentum for source control and it handled binaries just fine. You may, however, find the price tag a bit steep. Is there any source control out there that works really well with Frame? We have subversion here, but that can only read ASCII files. It stores ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Automatic way of changing the case of words
Hi Will... I think that you'll have to resort to a custom FDK plugin or FrameScript. If you want to try the plugin route, contact me off list and we'll see what can be done. Cheers! ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 Whites wrote: Hello All - What I would like to see is a quickie way to generate intercaps (or CamelCase, or whatever one wants to call it): a fourth option that would first capitalize the selected string (like ctrt+alt, c), then strip out the spaces between the words. That would be lovely. will white Monrovia CA On Dec 30, 2008, at 12:56 AM, Avraham Makeler wrote: Thanks, all. Great! avi On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 1:18 PM, Avraham Makeler amake...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Is there an automatic way of changing the case of words, e.g., by using a shortcut key to 'toggle' a word through upper case, mixed case, and lower case? Tia, avraham ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: See all open markers?
MarkerTools also provides this feature. http://leximation.com/tools/info/markertools.php Cheers, ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 Nancy Allison wrote: Thanks, Rick. I've investigated -- it looks wonderful; but at $249 it's too expensive for my freelancer's budget. Is there anything else out there? ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as s...@leximation.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/sp%40leximation.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: See all open markers?
There are a number of Marker-related plugins .. 10 are listed in our Tool Search database .. http://leximation.com/toolsearch/?type=Pbaseapp=FMkwds=marker (If anyone knows of others .. please let me know!) Cheers, ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 Shlomo Perets wrote: In addition to the options mentioned in this thread, there is MarkerMadness, http://www.zenserve.com Shlomo Perets MicroType * http://www.microtype.com FrameMaker training consulting * FM-to-Acrobat TimeSavers Improve Your FrameMaker Skills live web-based training sessions ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Report FrameMaker 9 plugin compatibilities here
In general, plugins will be upward compatible .. and many will work just fine in FM9. Give it a try and see how it goes. :) FM9 does introduce a twist that may cause hiccups for some plugins that work with structured applications .. the default location for the structapps.fm file is now in the user Application Data area (C:\Documents and Settings\username\Application Data\Adobe\FrameMaker\9\structapps.fm). We (Leximation) have tested most of our plugins with FM9 and they seem to work fine. We do plan to officially update all of them for FM9 (eventually). DITA-FMx will be our first plugin to update for FM9, and hope to have a beta of DITA-FMx 1.1 for FM9 available within a month. Cheers, ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 Mike Wickham wrote: A question that comes up with each new FrameMaker release is, are my old plugins still compatible? So I thought I'd start a thread where we can report plugins that do or don't work with FrameMaker 9. The thread would be especially invaluable if plugin developers would chime in about their own company's plugins. Mike Wickham ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: PDF Documentation
OK .. I'll add my 0.02 to this survey .. In general I hate reading PDFs on screen. When reading content on screen I much prefer doing so in an application that allows me to resize the window to suit my needs (typically HTML .. web browser or CHM), and the content flows to fit that window. If a PDF is intended for printing, it will usually be too big to be convenient on screen (assuming that I'm using this along with another application). If a PDF is optimized for on screen use (typically a smaller page size) it won't be very useful for printing. Also, if you provide a multi column layout (often nice for printed output), it becomes very difficult to use on screen. Some companies provide two versions of PDF docs, one for printing and one for on screen use .. I think that's a very nice thing to offer .. but would prefer that the on screen documentation be a more user-friendly format (CHM/HTML). Searching in a PDF is a fairly useless operation as well, which is another reason I prefer to use other types of online docs. Cheers, ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 Kelly McDaniel wrote: Quick Survey: Is it your experience that users view PDF documentation on their computer display in preference to printing it for use? If so, by what ratio of view:print? Opinions and SWAGs are fine. Kelly M. McDaniel Senior Technical Writer Pavilion Technologies A Rockwell Automation Company ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM9 DITA integration
I don't think that there is anything in FM9 that makes it easier to get into DITA or structured authoring. It offers support for the DITA 1.1 specification, but migration is still the same effort that it has been in earlier versions. ...scott John Sgammato wrote: I have been hoping FM9 would make it easier to get into DITA / Structured Authoring. In the online help, I found this helpful tidbit: FrameMaker 9 provides complete support for DITA v1.1. For more information on DITA integration with FrameMaker see the online manual Integrating DITA with Adobe FrameMaker 9.pdf on the Adobe website www.adobe.com/go/lr_FrameMaker_support_en. Alas! The link shows some 14 documents, but none of them is the promised online manual. A few calls to Adobe Support resulted in the belief that the document is not yet available and the only recourse is to keep checking back until it arrives, while my 30 days tick away... John Sgammato Principal Technical Writer Imprivata, Inc. [v] (781) 674-2441 www.imprivata.com Explore the Imprivata OneSign Solutions Site http://www.imprivata.com/demosite/ - see product demos and learn how OneSign has made organizations successful. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Framemaker SDK and Framescript
Some additional info on options for FM automation .. http://leximation.com/framemaker_automation.php Cheers, ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 Brewster, Christopher C wrote: I'm a long-time Word user and have written countless large and small programs with Word VBA. Many are to add functionality to the program and many others are to perform such tasks as format conversion. I'm unclear if there's an equivalent for Framemaker. I'd like to hear from users of the SDK and Framescript. Are these meant for the kind of modest extensions that people create with VBA, and how much effort is needed for a typical addition? What's kind of learning curve do these have, and how long does it typically take a non-genius to gain a usable level of skill? Thanks for any advice. Christopher C. Brewster Multimedia Design Engineer _ Technical Documents and Training|Lockheed Martin MS2 christopher.c.brews...@lmco.com|651-456-4597 Eagan ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Book to .mif plugin
And Leximation has a plugin called FileTools, which lets you export a book to many formats as well as lots of other file-related features. http://leximation.com/tools/info/filetools.php Cheers, ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 Mike Wickham wrote: I am sure there must be a utility which saves all files in a book to .mif files. Do you know where I can get such a plugin? Systec has the Book Transfer FM - MIF utility. 29 euros to license. https://www.systec-gmbh.com/os/index.php?cat=c176_TOOLBOX.htmlXTCsid=afec57784912ef717a8b43a91b8993b9 Mike Wickham ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Minimize all Frame windows at once?
Hi Nancy... I'm not aware of a way to do this using standard FM commands. Our plugin FileTools provides a Minimize All command that does this. Grab the 30-day trial and see if it does what you want .. http://leximation.com/tools/info/filetools.php Cheers, ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 Nancy Allison wrote: Hi, everyone. I'm working in a document with about 20 chapter files. Before I do a book-level search, I usually have only one chapter expanded and all the others are minimized at the bottom of the Frame window. During the search, Frame expands every chapter and leaves them all expanded after the search. Is there a way to minimize them all at once, so that just the Book file remains open and everything else is minimized at the bottom of the Frame window? I googled this but found nothing. --Nancy ___ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Structured Frame Help
Hi Rose... Sorry to have not responded sooner. If you're on FM7.1 and want to start messing around with DITA authoring, you can use our free version of DITA-FMx (supports FM7.1 and 7.2). The 0.0 version of DITA-FMx provides you with structured apps and some sample files and will let you get into DITA authoring in Frame. It doesn't offer all of the features that are in the 1.0 version of DITA-FMx (but provides more authoring features than you'll find in FM8). When you do get FM8 up and running, you might want to check out DITA-FMx 1.0 which provides integrated access to the Open Toolkit plus lots of nice authoring features. If you're using DITA-FMx (any version) you can email us for help. :) Cheers, ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 roconn...@netspace.net.au wrote: Hi guys I haven't used Framemaker for about 7 yrs (unfortunately) and only used unstructured Frame in V5.5 Does anyone out there have some source templates, or a small book example of a structured doc? I need to get up and racing pretty quickly and I figure using an existing example is always the easiest way. I have Framemaker 7.1 right now but will be moving to V8.0 next week and utilising the DITA mapping as well. So rather than panicking I'm screaming for help. any help is appreciated. bye for now Rose This email was sent from Netspace Webmail: http://www.netspace.net.au ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: [TCS Users] FM9: some more bugs
Hi Yves... Note that the DITA-FMx crash is something that we're working on, and does not look like (at this point) a specific problem with FM9. Cheers, ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 Yves Barbion wrote: Hi Mahesh Thank you for the workarounds. I have also seen some other bugs today (after using your workaround, quitting and restarting FM): * The Paragraph Designer does not respond at some point: clicking a different tab (button) does not display the contents of that tab for example when switching from Pagination to Default Font properties. Also, when I leave the Paragraph Designer open and click in different paragraphs of different paragraph formats, the Paragraph Tag name does not change correspondingly in the Paragraph Designer. Closing and reopening the Paragraph Designer does not help. * CTRL+ALT+clicking a hyperlinked entry in a generated list (TOC, LOP) does not jump to the corresponding position in the FM file. * FM9 crashed when I was on a Master Page and changed a tab stop by dragging the arrow below the ruler. * FM9 crashed when I generated a book from a ditamap with DITA-FMx. I tried the same action with the same ditamap in FM8 and FM7.2 and everything worked fine there, so the problem is with FM9, not with FM7.2, FM8 or DITA-FMx. * There are some problems with the Welcome screen: when I click User Guides or Tutorials in the Resources section, nothing seems to happen. I have to switch (ALT+TAB) to my browser manually. There, however, I see that the links point to FM8 User Guides and tutorials. When I click XML and DITA, I see that the links point to PDF files about the DITA Starter Kit in FrameMaker 7.2 I'm testing FM9p230 in Windows XP, SP3 with 3 GB of RAM. Any idea when these bugs will be fixed? Regards Yves ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Book window position (was .. Re: Thumbs down: FrameMaker 9 Welcome Screen)
Actually it *is* FM that saves the book window position and size. This info is stored in the book file itself, but isn't saved unless you actually make a change to the book file which requires that it be updated. Just moving and resizing the book won't require a save, but if you move and/or resize, and also add/delete a file or change the property of a book component .. then you can save the book and the next time you open it it will appear that the new location. ...scott Diane Gaskill wrote: That's strange, Mike. I happen to like the book file about 2 inches wide and just high enough to display the list of files, and placed in the upper right corner of my screen. Out of the way, but available. FM8 and previous version have always opened the book file exactly where I save it. But as Kelly says, it's Windows, not FM that is doing it. Diane -Original Message- From: Mike Wickham [mailto:i...@mikewickham.com] Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 6:42 AM To: Diane Gaskill; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Thumbs down: FrameMaker 9 Welcome Screen I also do not like the fact that FM9 opens a book file on the left side of the FM window and its huge and docked. The last thing I need is to have a book file take up 1/3 of the screen. It's also VERY annoying to have to shrink it and move it every time I open it. Clicking on the double arrow above the book file tab shrinks the file to a button that's pretty small. This is a total waste of my time. The book file needs to return to the screen in whatever size and position it is saved in, just like FM8 and previous versions. They have made FM considerably less productive by forcing somebody's idea of pretty on everyone. Interesting. No version of FrameMaker ever remembered the size of the book file window for me. I always had to resize it larger. In FM9, the default window is tall enough that I can see the whole tree in the book file without resizing. I like it-- though I find the window to be wider than necessary. It extends about an inch to the right of the rightmost icon in the header bar. Mike Wickham ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Conditional text in index markers
Our MarkerTools plugin allows you to add variables to marker text. This adds some overhead to your workflow, but it does provide a conditional-like functionality .. http://leximation.com/tools/info/markertools.php Cheers, ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 Fred Ridder wrote: Tom De Rouck asked: In Framemaker 8.0p277, does anyone know if it is possible to apply conditional text to a part of the text in an index marker? I want some of the text only to display in my online help version, so I have a condition PDF and one online-only. No, it is not possible to apply a condition tag within a variable's value. You can only apply conditions once the content appears in the document flow. For what you want to do, there are two approaches you could take, one of which requires a slightly more complicated process when preparing to publish to a given medium and the other of which requires more work up-front and probably will be harder to maintain on an ongoing basis. The first approach would be to use one variable name, but to redefine its value for the appropriate medium as you prepare to publish by importing variable values from a speical template file. I have used this approach many times and it works well. And it only adds one step to the preparation for publishing. The second approach would be to define two different variable names with the different medium-specific content, and to insert both variables tagged with the appropriate text conditions instead of inserting just the single variable name. The advantage of this is that you would only have to worry about setting up the proper conditional text show/hide rules at publishing time, but the downside is that you must take some steps to ensure that the conditionalized pair of variables always get inserted together and that neither of them ever gets deleted independent of the other. -Fred Ridder ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM 9 p230 - 3 Level Indexing Error
Oh geez. Sorry .. I guess I'm a little DITA-centric these days. :o For some reason I though you were referring to a problem with the handling of index entries in DITA (although your original email certainly doesn't imply that at all). If this is really a fundamental issue with nested books and multi-level index entries, this won't help. Again .. very sorry for the noise. I really need to make a point to carefully read emails before replying. :( ...scott Jeff Coatsworth wrote: Does it work with unstructured FM? -Original Message- From: Scott Prentice [mailto:s...@leximation.com] Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 1:05 PM To: Jeff Coatsworth Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: FM 9 p230 - 3 Level Indexing Error Hi Jeff... DITA-FMx supports any number of index levels. The 1.1 version (still in beta) also provides complete control over the formatting and layout of your see and see-also entries (in addition to many other authoring and publishing features). http://leximation.com/dita-fmx/ Cheers! ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 Jeff Coatsworth wrote: Just another update on this issue - still occurs under the new patch (p237). I wait in hope ;) -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Coatsworth Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 10:17 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: FM 9 p230 - 3 Level Indexing Error Hi All, I had previously discovered this bug on the initial TCS 2.0 version of FM 9 (and reported it to Adobe), and thought I should test it again on the latest patch version that just came out. Bad news is - it's still broken. Here's the details on the error: I created an Index marker with Marker Text in the format main heading:sub heading:sub sub heading (e.g. Australia:Animals:Koalas) in one of my FM docs. This doc belongs to a book, that in turn belongs to 1 master book of books. When you run Update Book on this master book to create a MasterIX, it will create an error. After I submitted my FM project files to Adobe Support, they were able to reproduce the crash. It's got something to do with the nested nature of the book of books because a normal 3 level deep index entry is created fine when just doing it in a book with one document in it. Just thought I should let others know what the progress of this issue is. Jeff Coatsworth Documentation Specialist Gary Jonas Computing Ltd. 905-886-0544 905-886-8511 (fax) jeff.coatswo...@jonassoftware.com ___ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Possible to suppress Save As XML via structapps.fm setting?
Hi Michael... I'm not aware of any way to do this other than via an FDK client or FrameScript. You can probably disable certain SaveAs functionality by commenting out entries in the APIClients section of the maker.ini, but that would apply to all files, not just those that use your app. ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 Michael Müller-Hillebrand wrote: Good morning colleagues, I have a structured application with some XSL preprocessing that removes certain data from the XML source when opened by FrameMaker. Now I want to make sure that the user does not accidentally save this document/book as XML again. Currently I present a warning based on an script that monitors the NotePreSaveXML event, but I would prefer a solution independent of additional software. Do you know of a way to configure the XMLApplication in the structapps.fm to block Save As XML? To raise an error would be acceptable. Thanks, - Michael Müller-Hillebrand -- ___ Michael Müller-Hillebrand: Dokumentations-Technologie Adobe Certified Expert, FrameMaker Lösungen und Training, FrameScript, XML/XSL, Unicode Blog: http://cap-studio.de/ - Tel. +49 (9131) 28747 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
WEBINAR: Using FrameMaker and DITA with XDocs Content Management System
*Using FrameMaker and DITA with XDocs Content Management System* *Join us for a Webinar on July 30* https://www2.gotomeeting.com/register/409229307 *Space is limited.* Reserve your Webinar seat now at: https://www2.gotomeeting.com/register/409229307 When it comes to working with DITA, FrameMaker, XDocs and DITA-FMx are a powerful combination. Using these tools provides an affordable DITA suite in which you can: . Create semantically marked up content that adheres to the DITA specification . Use CMS features to check in, manage, and publish content . Create rich output using familiar FrameMaker templates Attend a free 90 minute webinar and see how this can be done, hear real client stories, and gain insight into how the process is implemented, managed, and used. This webinar is a collaborative effort between Bluestream Database Software, Leximation Inc. and Publishing Smarter Inc. The respective companies have a vast amount of knowledge and experience in DITA-enabled content management systems, technical publications, structured content, content conversion, and FrameMaker. AGENDA: . Welcome . Client case study . Overview of content conversion (Word/FrameMaker/other) . Benefit of DITA-FMx plug in . Introduction to Bluestream XDocs CMS . Content import to a CMS . Check in/out and edits in FrameMaker 8 and 9 . Publish using FrameMaker . Publish from a CMS . Q A PRESENTERS: Bernard Aschwanden, President, Publishing Smarter Inc. Nenad Furtula, VP Sales and Marketing, Bluestream Database Corp. Scott Prentice, President, Leximation Inc. *Title:* /Using FrameMaker and DITA with XDocs Content Management System/ *Date:* Thursday, July 30, 2009 *Time:* 10:00 AM - 11:30 AM PDT After registering you will receive a confirmation email containing information about joining the Webinar. *System Requirements* PC-based attendees Required: Windows® 2000, XP Home, XP Pro, 2003 Server, Vista Macintosh®-based attendees Required: Mac OS® X 10.4 (Tiger®) or newer ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: WEBINAR: Using FrameMaker and DITA with XDocs Content Management System
Don't scare me like that Art .. 10am Pacific is 1pm Eastern .. no? ...scott Art Campbell wrote: Uh, Scott, this seems to be taking place at 10 a.m. PST, which means 7 a.m. EST... Is that correct? Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 8:48 PM, Scott Prentices...@leximation.com wrote: *Using FrameMaker and DITA with XDocs Content Management System* *Join us for a Webinar on July 30* https://www2.gotomeeting.com/register/409229307 *Space is limited.* Reserve your Webinar seat now at: https://www2.gotomeeting.com/register/409229307 When it comes to working with DITA, FrameMaker, XDocs and DITA-FMx are a powerful combination. Using these tools provides an affordable DITA suite in which you can: . Create semantically marked up content that adheres to the DITA specification . Use CMS features to check in, manage, and publish content . Create rich output using familiar FrameMaker templates Attend a free 90 minute webinar and see how this can be done, hear real client stories, and gain insight into how the process is implemented, managed, and used. This webinar is a collaborative effort between Bluestream Database Software, Leximation Inc. and Publishing Smarter Inc. The respective companies have a vast amount of knowledge and experience in DITA-enabled content management systems, technical publications, structured content, content conversion, and FrameMaker. AGENDA: . Welcome . Client case study . Overview of content conversion (Word/FrameMaker/other) . Benefit of DITA-FMx plug in . Introduction to Bluestream XDocs CMS . Content import to a CMS . Check in/out and edits in FrameMaker 8 and 9 . Publish using FrameMaker . Publish from a CMS . Q A PRESENTERS: Bernard Aschwanden, President, Publishing Smarter Inc. Nenad Furtula, VP Sales and Marketing, Bluestream Database Corp. Scott Prentice, President, Leximation Inc. *Title:* /Using FrameMaker and DITA with XDocs Content Management System/ *Date:* Thursday, July 30, 2009 *Time:* 10:00 AM - 11:30 AM PDT After registering you will receive a confirmation email containing information about joining the Webinar. *System Requirements* PC-based attendees Required: Windows® 2000, XP Home, XP Pro, 2003 Server, Vista Macintosh®-based attendees Required: Mac OS® X 10.4 (Tiger®) or newer ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campb...@gmail.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Soliciting hardware recommendations
Hi D... I assume that you've tried running FM using Fusion on your Mac, and that wasn't sufficient? I just started messing with this on a Mac Mini using Fusion 2 .. I've got XP and Vista (and Ubuntu) running as virtualizations, with FM7.2, 8, and 9 (among other things), and all seems good to me. I need to do a lot more testing to be sure, but I'm ready to ditch my Windows system entirely, if it all pans out. Fusion is great .. you can even run the Windows application windows along side of Mac apps and copy+paste between them. You can also add the Windows apps to the dock and launch them like Mac apps. Seems like the ideal situation to me. Granted .. I've just started messing with this and there may be some serious problems that I'm overlooking. I'd love to hear if others have gone this direction. Cheers, ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 D L Reynolds wrote: Penny wise and pound foolish... As a Mac diehard, I resisted buying a Windows machine for a very long time. And then I bought a machine cobbled together by a neighbor, a self-described computer expert. Bad idea. I have serious intermittent problems creating PDFs from within FrameMaker. About half the time, FM crashes when it hits a particular page. The page in question changes from day to day, sometimes from minute to minute. It isn't FM or the files -- they work fine on other machines. So it must be my custom computer. Time to get a real Windows box. I'm looking for a desktop machine, not a laptop. Must be able to accommodate two 22 monitors. Can you recommend anything? Many thank, --D Reynolds ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Framemaker vs XMetal for structured authoring
Just to repeat what Yves said .. if you're using DITA-FMx 1.1, you *can* actually use graphic overlay objects (callouts etc.) .. and this provides you the same level of DITA support in FM7.2, 8, and 9. If you're interested in seeing DITA-FMx and a CMS (XDocs) .. check out the webinar tomorrow .. http://leximation.com/dita-fmx/webinar.php Cheers, ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 Writer wrote: I haven't used XMetal, but we do use FM9 to author DITA XML, and ePublisher (XML adapter) to create online help. We author XML files and ditamaps in FM9. To create PDFs, we save our ditamaps as composite FM books, which works fine. After the books are generated, we apply templates to the FM files to make them look the way we want. From there, we generate our PDF files. However, WebWorks (ePublisher) says that it plans to create a PDF output that you can format from within ePublisher. If this works the way that I expect, we can generate all of our outputs through ePublisher. If you choose FM, do get FM9. It handles DITA much better than FM8. You cannot use callouts in graphics, but I think this is true of any DITA XML. We use attribute values and ditaval files instead of conditional text to perform conditional filtering. DITA/FM has its own paragraph styles, but you can make them look however you want by editing the underlying templates and EDD files. CMS is not a consideration for us (yet), so I cannot answer to that. Nadine Andersen, Verner Engell VEA wrote: Hi I currently use unstructured Framemaker for pdf output. I single-source my content - and via Webworks Publisher I output to context-sensitive help in Webworks help format. My 5 colleagues use Word and output to pdf for printing. We plan to go structured and are considering whether we should use Framemaker or XMetal. Do any of you know where I can find an unbiased comparison of the two tools? I have been told that the major disadvantage of using Framemaker is that you are required to save in binary format to keep the Framemaker-specific XML processing instructions (pls). If you store in xml-format you cannot retrieve and maintain conditional text. Callouts on drawings (the graphics tool in Framemaker) will be rasterized, and even paragraph styles can be discarded if you save a document as XML. What are the implications of sacrificing saving documents as XML? Another advantage in favor of XMetal should be that it has vendor-supported integration with most content management systems (CMS). Apparently XMetal seems to be the best choice. What are your comments? Thanks, Verner Radiometer Medical ApS Akandevej 21 2700 Bronshoj Denmark Phone: +45 38 27 38 27 CVR: 27 50 91 85 www.radiometer.com For the latest trends in acute care testing, go to Radiometer's knowledge site www.acutecaretesting.org Please be advised that this email may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy or re-transmit this email. If you have received this email in error, please notify us by email by replying to the sender and by telephone (call us collect at +1 202-828-0850) and delete this message and any attachments. Thank you in advance for your cooperation and assistance. In addition, Danaher and its subsidiaries disclaim that the content of this email constitutes an offer to enter into, or the acceptance of, any contract or agreement or any amendment thereto; provided that the foregoing disclaimer does not invalidate the binding effect of any digital or other electronic reproduction of a manual signature that is included in any attachment to this email. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Automating a Check for TradeMarks
Hi Joseph... I'm not aware of such a plugin. It's possible that one of the terminology checking or language validation tools might be able to do this. Have you tried the (free) SDL Author Assistant for FM9? http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=4357 I've not played with this yet so don't really know. If you do need such a plugin developed, I'd be glad to do it for you. Cheers, ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 Joseph Lorenzini wrote: Hi all, I am producing documentation using unstructured FrameMaker 9. I produce over 22 documents, which equals close to a thousand pages of complex material. Here's my issue. I am the sole tech writer for the product that I document. My company follows the Agile SDLC. This means I am publishing documentation every six weeks to two months. Due to the amount of documentation and the aggressive deadlines, I am running into an issue with trademarks. My company has very specific guidelines for how its TM and third party TMs are presented in the documentation. If the legal format for the TMs is not followed precisely, then QA writes a bug against the documentation. This requires me to modify the documentation and republish the documents. On the one hand, this is not a usability issue. No end user will care or even notice this issue because the technical accuracy of the documentation is not impacted. On the other hand, it is a big deal from a legal perspective. My company has specific legal guidelines and they must be followed. Its my responsibility to ensure that the documentation conforms to those guidelines. At the same time, I know that considering the complexity of the TM issue, how minor of a change can cause a violation of the standard, and that I am the only one writing, editing, and managing the documents, that things are bound to slip through the cracks. So here's my question: is there a plugin that will automatically check the documentation for conformance to trademark standards? Please note that I am not interested in FrameScript. -- Sincerely, Joseph Lorenzini --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Technical Communications Suite Users group. To post to this group, send email to tcs-us...@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tcs-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TCS-Users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Bookmap
Hi Bertrand... Sorry for the delayed reply .. I just noticed your email in my inbox. The default FM9 DITA support doesn't provide any special handling of bookmap toc elements. Your only viable option is to add the TOC to the book after you've built it and then update it. Our DITA-FMx 1.1 plugin offers support for automatic generation of all of the booklist elements. You just use a bookmap, then add the booklist elements that you need. If you've enabled the Replace List Files with Generated Files option, when you run the map to book command the list files will all be set up properly. (You also need to configure an INI file and add the necessary templates for each generated list type.) You can download the trial here .. http://leximation.com/dita-fmx/ Be sure to grab the DITA-FMx 1.1 beta since that's the version that supports bookmap and all of the DITA 1.1 features. Cheers, ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 Bertrand Lefort wrote: Hello, I am a new user of Framemaker. We are currently implementing Framemaker and DITA to manage or systems documentation for users. I have a question concerning the creation of complete book structure with cover page, TOC, content... I found one way with standard ditamap but it seems that bookmap would be better for us, I cannot figure how to use it. 1) Using the documentation, we found a first way to do it : We built a first complete documentation with success using ditamap and ditaval to create a composite FM documents. Then we created a book and add the file, add a cover page (unstructured) and a TOC (unstructured). Everything seems to works well, we will have to rebuild the composite FM documents each time we make an update to a concept or a file. Ok 2) I use FM 9, which comes with bookmap. In the concept, bookmap seems perfect for us, but I do not really understand how to use it. I can create a bookmap, set a title, define parts, chapters, add references to my file. I found the structure great because attributes allows us to add metadata for this book. After this point I do not understand where to go: - TOC : I found that I can add a frontmatter, then a booklist and then a TOC. Fm requires a file for the toc. - creating my first book with bookmap : I have no idea what is the next step. When I create the FM composite document, FM use the same template (topic.template I think) and create a XML DITA file but I lost all the information of my bookmap. I was in the idea that I will have a more complex structure that will integrate DITA structure inside a book structure which will have its own template to output title, chapters information ... but it seems it does not work like that. Can someone help me to find the right path ? Thank you for your help. Bertrand Bertrand Lefort Webmestre et programmeur | Webmaster and developer University of Ottawa 550, rue Cumberland, pièce 066 | 550, Cumberland Street, room 056 Ottawa, ON, K1N 6N5 Tél. | Phone : 613 562 5800 x 1857 Téléc. | Fax. : 613 562 5206 http://www.uOttawa.ca/ Université d'Ottawa | University of Ottawa L'Université canadienne | Canada's university Le présent courriel et toutes les pièces jointes contiennent de l'information privée, exclusive, privilégiée et/ou confidentielle, sujette au droit d'auteur s'adressant uniquement au destinataire. Toute utilisation, copie ou distribution non autorisée du contenu de ce courriel est strictement interdite. Si vous n'êtes pas le destinataire de ce message et que vous l'avez reçu par erreur, veuillez le supprimer et en informer immédiatement l'expéditeur. This e-mail communication, including all attachments, may contain private, proprietary, privileged and/or confidential information and subject to copyright. It is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. Any unauthorized use, copying or distribution of the contents of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. Please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately, if you are not the intended recipient, and have received it in error. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: custom text plugin wanted
Hi Jakob... Regarding StructureSnippets .. you can manually edit the snippet files to unwrap the root element to leave just the plain text. This may help in the short term, and I'll look into updating the plugin to accommodate plain text (CDATA) nodes as a standard feature. Adding the ability to create and manage custom toolbars would be a bit of work, and could probably be a plugin of its own. If you don't find such a tool (I'm not aware of one), I'd be happy to look into developing it. Cheers, ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 Jakob Fix wrote: Hello, We're looking at weaning our authors off a previous XML authoring tool (Syntext Serna) and get them accustomed to FrameMaker 9 (structured). One of the things they really liked with the previous tool was the possibility to create easily graphical buttons in the menu bar and associate them with a text or structured snippet. Over time they accumulated a long row of icons used to quickly insert these snippets and thus avoided speling errors. I'm looking for an equivalent solution for FrameMaker 9. I have found Leximation's StructureSnippets plugin which is very close our requirements but apparently does not allow for non-structured, text-only contents (each snippet must be surrounded by a root element). Although this plugin does not provide icons in the menu bar, one can use the context menu, the keyboard or the modeless dialog box. Unless somebody can suggest a solution to my problem, I would be interested to hear from the FrameMaker customisation experts on this list about the work necessary to implement this plugin (in FDK rather than FrameScript). Requirements in a nutshell would be: - provide a way to easily associate unstructured or structured text (up to 1024 chars, this limit is for guidance only) with a button in FrameMaker's menu bar (and optionally other access methods such as context menu or modeless dialogue) - store them persistently in between sessions - allow for easy management (i.e. list buttons, add, modify and delete a button and its associated snippet) - as a plus, allow for custom icons to be used for the buttons cheers, Jakob. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as s...@leximation.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/sp%40leximation.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: custom text plugin wanted
Hi Jakob... I've updated StructureSnippets to support plain text nodes and will release an updated version in a couple weeks after a bit more testing. I'll send the FM9 version to you directly for testing. If anyone else would like to test this before it's released (FM7/8/9), just send me an email off list. Cheers, ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 Jakob Fix wrote: Hi Scott, I will try your advice about unwrapping the root element and see if that works, although this won't be a satisfactory solution for the authors. Please let me know when you release a new version of StructureSnippets which can also handle simple text nodes. cheers, Jakob. On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 19:04, Scott Prentice wrote: Hi Jakob... Regarding StructureSnippets .. you can manually edit the snippet files to unwrap the root element to leave just the plain text. This may help in the short term, and I'll look into updating the plugin to accommodate plain text (CDATA) nodes as a standard feature. Adding the ability to create and manage custom toolbars would be a bit of work, and could probably be a plugin of its own. If you don't find such a tool (I'm not aware of one), I'd be happy to look into developing it. Cheers, ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 Jakob Fix wrote: Hello, We're looking at weaning our authors off a previous XML authoring tool (Syntext Serna) and get them accustomed to FrameMaker 9 (structured). One of the things they really liked with the previous tool was the possibility to create easily graphical buttons in the menu bar and associate them with a text or structured snippet. Over time they accumulated a long row of icons used to quickly insert these snippets and thus avoided speling errors. I'm looking for an equivalent solution for FrameMaker 9. I have found Leximation's StructureSnippets plugin which is very close our requirements but apparently does not allow for non-structured, text-only contents (each snippet must be surrounded by a root element). Although this plugin does not provide icons in the menu bar, one can use the context menu, the keyboard or the modeless dialog box. Unless somebody can suggest a solution to my problem, I would be interested to hear from the FrameMaker customisation experts on this list about the work necessary to implement this plugin (in FDK rather than FrameScript). Requirements in a nutshell would be: - provide a way to easily associate unstructured or structured text (up to 1024 chars, this limit is for guidance only) with a button in FrameMaker's menu bar (and optionally other access methods such as context menu or modeless dialogue) - store them persistently in between sessions - allow for easy management (i.e. list buttons, add, modify and delete a button and its associated snippet) - as a plus, allow for custom icons to be used for the buttons cheers, Jakob. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: serious problem with users FM 9
If you import your stub file into the structapps.fm file in the main FM install dir rather than the structapps file in the user appdata area it should be available to all users on a compter. With FM9 there are two structapps files. ...scott Sent from my iPhone On Nov 26, 2009, at 4:47 AM, w...@idtp.eu wrote: Well, we've made a construct where the customized struct apps are stored on a shared network drive and these are imported as text inset in the default struct apps file. So maintenance on these apps is not a problem. Only when we made a new FrameMaker install and modified the struct apps file for this (imported the text insets) the new apps were not available for new users. -- Vriendelijke groet, Wim Hooghwinkel Adobe Certified Expert (ACE) in FrameMaker iDTP International DTP and Documentation Consultancy tel. +31652036811 i...@idtp.eu www.idtp.eu Citeren Yves Barbion yves.barb...@gmail.com: Hi Wim Indeed, this is a (maintenance) problem. I've been looking in the FM Preferences and in the Help too whether this can be changed, but I haven't found anything yet. Maybe you could try this workaround: import your struct app as a text inset in the user's struct app. If you do so, you may have to change or replace some variables (for example $STRUCTDIR) as well. And you may have to do this for each user. Good luck. -- Yves Barbion www.scripto.nu On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp w...@idtp.euwrote: Hi, Does any of you recognise this: for a client I created a FM app (FM9) and modified the struct apps file for this. Now an employee logs in on the same computer but with a different user name - and the modified struct aps is not found. Apparently it has been stored in the local user folder of the person who logged in when we modified the struct apps file. So it seems that anytime someone makes a change (normally only the admin of course) the central struct apps file must be replaced manually. Is there no other option for this - like deactivating the local struct apps file in the user folder? How does FM read the struct apps - does it first read the struct apps file in the FM Installation folder and then the one in the user folder and what happens with conflicting settings? Thanks, Kind regards, vriendelijke groet, Wim Hooghwinkel iDTP - Technical Communication Consultant Adobe Certified Expert (ACE) in FrameMaker tel. +31652036811 Skype wimhooghwinkel Twitter @idtp @NLDITA mailto:i...@idtp.eu i...@idtp.eu www.idtp.eu FrameMaker support: framema...@idtp.eu ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as yves.barb...@gmail.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/yves.barbion%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as s...@leximation.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/sp%40leximation.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM9: Resource manager bugs?
Hi Yves... Yes .. this is a known limitation. The FM9 API does not expose methods for handling or dealing with actions in the new UI elements, and because DITA-FMx requires the replacement of the core DITA DLLs many of the features in the resource manager are non-functional or don't work as expected. I'm hoping that a future patch will add access to the UI features. However, in general I find that the resource manager is of limited use for DITA authoring since you have limited access to the attributes and element structure and no ability to edit relationship tables. When opening a map (using FMx or standard FM DITA) I'd immediately switch to the Document View. Cheers, ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 Yves Barbion wrote: Hi FM9/DITA users I'm using FM 9.0p250 with DITA-FMx 1.1 on Windows XP SP3. I have a ditamap open in Resource Manager view. When I create a new topic, I am asked to insert the new file as a topicref. I click Yes, but I don't see the new topicref appear in my ditamap until I refresh the Resource Manager view manually: - By closing and opening the ditamap - By switching to Document View and then to Resource Manager view again. Also, when I select a topicref in the Resource Manager view and then click one of the Insert Child/Sibling Topicref/Conref buttons, nothing seems to happen. Are these known bugs? Cheers ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM9: Resource manager bugs?
Yes .. I've been asking for this for a while. In particular, it would be nice to be able to specify that a custom modeless dialog should NOT be opened in a pod (when it's too big to fit). Also, it would be great to be able to open a DITA map in document view instead of the resource manager. But also .. complete access to configuring and managing the UI elements. :) ...scott Chris Despopoulos wrote: I'm glad (in an ironic sense) to see that I'm not the only person who is asking for the API to expose the GUI elements. In a more literal sense, I'm sorry to see it. Please, please, please... Expose the new GUI to the API so we can make plug-ins that interact reasonably with the user's session. This is especially important now because the whole point of the new GUI is to give the user more control over the environment. And yet, any plug-in that adds documents or uses FrameMaker in any way to display or capture information runs the risk of disrupting the user's setup. This puts plug-in developers in the unfortunate position of being at cross-purposes with Adobe and the FrameMaker users. (And while you're at it, make a notification for every time you generate an ID Val attribute -- PLEASE How hard can it be?) The FM9 API does not expose methods for handling or dealing with actions in the new UI elements, and because DITA-FMx requires the replacement of the core DITA DLLs many of the features in the resource manager are non-functional or don't work as expected. I'm hoping that a future patch will add access to the UI features. * ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
