Re: Now OT, I suppose. RE: Adobe pricing policies (was: FrameMaker 12 released)

[Bernard Gagne]

That's great as long as you use DITA. We use DocBook so FrameMaker XML Author 
(which should more appropriately be called FrameMaker DITA Author) is useless. 
Oxygen and XMetal have nothing to fear.

Berny Gagne
Senior Technical Writer
Siemens Canada



On Thursday, January 23, 2014 8:28:02 AM, Robert Lauriston 
rob...@lauriston.com wrote:
 
My guess is Adobe's goal in creating FrameMaker XML Author and pricing
it at $400 is to eliminate the cost savings incentive for structured
FrameMaker users to switch to Oxygen or XMetal instead of adding more
FM seats.


 Also, at $400, I doubt if FrameMaker XML Author is going to be able to 
 compete with other XML editors out there. The idea is fantastic, but the cost 
 needs to be around $100-150 a seat.
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Trouble selecting multiple graphics

[Bernard Gagne]

Karen,
Are all your graphics contained within the same graphic frame or are they in 
separate graphic frames on your page? If it's the latter what you are trying to 
do will not work. The software was never meant to work that way. If they are in 
the same graphic frame, selecting the graphic frame and pressing "Ctrl-A" has 
always worked for me.

Berny Gagne
Senior Technical Writer
RuggedCom - A Siemens Company
Concord. Ontario, Canada



 From: Karen Robbins 
To: Paul Wilbraham  
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com 
Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 2:50:18 PM
Subject: Re: Trouble selecting multiple graphics


Really? Then why does the online FrameMaker 11 help say (or seem to say) that 
you can? 
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WSd817046a44e105e21e63e3d11ab7f741c8-7ffb.html#WSd817046a44e105e21e63e3d11ab7f741c8-7fe9

And what the heck kind of workflow is that... making you click and copy/paste 
or whatever three, four, five times instead of once?

--Karen


On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Paul Wilbraham  
wrote:


>Karen 
>You cannot select more than one graphic frame, anchored or unanchored, at a 
>time. 
>? 
>--Paul Wilbraham 
>On 09 April 2013 at 18:50 Karen Robbins  wrote: 
>>
>>
>>Hi Framers, 
>>
>>I'm not able to select multiple graphic frame objects. Diagonal dragging to 
>>encompass the objects with an invisible border only selects the last one over 
>>which the cursor passes. Using the shift-click-drag method gives the same 
>>result. Clicking the individual items' edge, with and without any modifier 
>>key I can think of, gives the same result. These graphic frames are not 
>>anchored. They often overlap the main text flow frame, but are not fully 
>>within it. 
>>
>>Ctrl+A grabs the main flow and any graphic fully within its text frame, but 
>>no graphics that partly overlap the frame. On a page with no main flow 
>>elements, ctrl+A grabs all text frames but only two of three graphic frames. 
>>
>>I've tried both the smart arrow cursor and the dumb one. 
>>
>>What am I missing? 
>>
>>
Frame 11.0.1.382, Windows 7. 
>>
>>
>>Thanks, 
>>Karen 
>
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Re: More bad news on TCS4: no longer includes Photoshop

[Bernard Gagne]

It's never been an either/or selection for me. I started my career as a 
technical illustrator and use both Illustrator and Photoshop extensively in my 
work. I can appreciate that most of you work in the software field, where 
screen grabs are pretty much the extent of your graphic work. However, there 
are still many of us working writing manuals for mechanical components. We 
require far more sophisticated tools for illustration than screen grabbing 
software.
I will admit I dislike the TCS model intensely, especially since I already own 
the Creative Suite. Why is it so much more expensive? Why can't I buy a basic 
suite and add components as I need them for a fraction of the cost of the 
individual software packages? It's not like I have much of a use for Robohelp 
anyway.
Just my two-cents.

Bernard Gagne



 From: Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com
To: Gust, Dieter dieter.g...@itl.eu 
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com 
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 8:57:40 AM
Subject: Re: More bad news on TCS4: no longer includes Photoshop
 

Illustrator is a better choice as a component? Really? Ever try editing 
hundreds of screen snaps for software documentation in Illustrator?

Either it's a significant mistake by the marketing team, or a significant win 
by the marketing team as it greatly increases Photoshop licenses
Art Campbell                                                                    
      art.campb...@gmail.com
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redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson
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On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 7:59 AM, Gust, Dieter dieter.g...@itl.eu wrote:

From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Rob Shell
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 12:23 PM
Subject: More bad news on TCS4: no longer includes Photoshop


  I must add that I have found another disadvantage to buying TCS4, 
 especially if you are a first-time buyer.
 TCS4 does not include Photoshop, whereas TCS2 does, or did

 I must confess that I find it odd that Adobe and not a single reviewer has 
 mentioned this.
If you really need Photoshop, I understand you.

If you think of typical technical documentation use cases, RoboScreenCapture 
and Illustrator which are  included instead of Photoshop (!!) are the better 
choice. .


 1. One cannot print a book in unstructured FM11.
You refer to a bug, which is really annoying, but printing the book in 
structured mode might be a suitable workaround for the short.
Save the book as PDF file is working in unstructured mode.


 2. Forget about online support.
Why? Online support always is a combination of official Adobe feedback and 
customer feedback from all over the world.
While an official Adobe feedback always will have to take into account side 
effects and therefore must be careful with hastily tips and workarounds, a lot 
of well-known experts in framers are giving fast and valuable feedback to 
almost any problem.

 3. Do without Photoshop.
Most technical documentation use cases don't deal with CMYK  so I think cheap 
software or freeware (Photoshop Elements, IrfanView...) should fulfill the 
demands. For screenshots RoboScreenCapture (which is good) is included in 
TCS4. A lot of customers asked for switching from Photoshop to Illustrator 
which is now included in TCS4.


 4. Forget about timely patches
Why?
The Adobe TCS team is always seeking dedicated contact to TCS customers, and 
while I hate bugs like  a plague Adobe delivers patches as soon as possible. 
O.K. The Adobe team might think about a similar approach like Microsoft in 
order to establish hotfixes beside regular patches.


 As a user of many programs over the years, what I see here is a drastic 
 cutting down of FrameMaker
If you think of licenses I fear you may be right but if you think of the 
commitment of Adobe this has increased from year to year.
But indeed to compete with InDesign and Word the commitment might still be 
much too little.
Dieter Gust
itl AG, Munich

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More bad news on TCS4: no longer includes Photoshop

[Bernard Gagne]

It's never been an either/or selection for me. I started my career as a 
technical illustrator and use both Illustrator and Photoshop extensively in my 
work. I can appreciate that most of you work in the software field, where 
screen grabs are pretty much the extent of your graphic work. However, there 
are still many of us working writing manuals for mechanical components. We 
require far more sophisticated tools for illustration than screen grabbing 
software.
I will admit I dislike the TCS model intensely, especially since I already own 
the Creative Suite. Why is it so much more expensive? Why can't I buy a basic 
suite and add components as I need them for a fraction of the cost of the 
individual software packages? It's not like I have much of a use for Robohelp 
anyway.
Just my two-cents.

Bernard Gagne



 From: Art Campbell 
To: "Gust, Dieter"  
Cc: "framers at lists.frameusers.com"  
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 8:57:40 AM
Subject: Re: More bad news on TCS4: no longer includes Photoshop


Illustrator is a better choice as a component? Really? Ever try editing 
hundreds of screen snaps for software documentation in Illustrator?

Either it's a significant mistake by the marketing team, or a significant win 
by the marketing team as it greatly increases Photoshop licenses
Art Campbell? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 
? ? ? art.campbell at gmail.com
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redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? No disclaimers apply.
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? DoD 358

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On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 7:59 AM, Gust, Dieter  wrote:

From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Rob Shell
>Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 12:23 PM
>Subject: More bad news on TCS4: no longer includes Photoshop
>
>
>> ?I must add that I have found another disadvantage to buying TCS4, 
>> especially if you are a first-time buyer.
>> TCS4 does not include Photoshop, whereas TCS2 does, or did
>
>> I must confess that I find it odd that Adobe and not a single reviewer has 
>> mentioned this.
>If you really need Photoshop, I understand you.
>
>If you think of typical technical documentation use cases, RoboScreenCapture 
>and Illustrator which are ?included instead of Photoshop (!!) are the better 
>choice. .
>
>
>> 1. One cannot print a book in unstructured FM11.
>You refer to a bug, which is really annoying, but printing the book in 
>structured mode might be a suitable workaround for the short.
>Save the book as PDF file is working in unstructured mode.
>
>
>> 2. Forget about online support.
>Why? Online support always is a combination of official Adobe feedback and 
>customer feedback from all over the world.
>While an official Adobe feedback always will have to take into account side 
>effects and therefore must be careful with hastily tips and workarounds, a lot 
>of well-known experts in framers are giving fast and valuable feedback to 
>almost any problem.
>
>> 3. Do without Photoshop.
>Most technical documentation use cases don't deal with CMYK ?so I think cheap 
>software or freeware (Photoshop Elements, IrfanView...) should fulfill the 
>demands. For screenshots RoboScreenCapture (which is good) is included in 
>TCS4. A lot of customers asked for switching from Photoshop to Illustrator 
>which is now included in TCS4.
>
>
>> 4. Forget about timely patches
>Why?
>The Adobe TCS team is always seeking dedicated contact to TCS customers, and 
>while "I hate bugs like ?a plague" Adobe delivers patches as soon as possible. 
>O.K. The Adobe team might think about a similar approach like Microsoft in 
>order to establish "hotfixes" beside regular patches.
>
>
>> As a user of many programs over the years, what I see here is a drastic 
>> cutting down of FrameMaker
>If you think of licenses I fear you may be right but if you think of the 
>commitment of Adobe this has increased from year to year.
>But indeed to compete with InDesign and Word the commitment might still be 
>much too little.
>Dieter Gust
>itl AG, Munich
>
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Re: Better Way to Assign Master Pages?

[Bernard Gagne]

Hi Karen,
As I understand it, only paragraph tags in the main flow (body pages) can be 
used to map Master Pages. Anything in the Headers and Footers is ignored.
If that is what you are trying to do, then you will need to change your 
tactics. Try mapping to the paragraph tags used for the runing head text 
instead. You are using variables, right?
Best regards,
 
Berny Gagne
Sr. Technical Writer
Thinkpath Engineering
Toronto, Ontario



From: Karen Robbins karendes...@gmail.com
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com 
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 8:06:59 PM
Subject: Better Way to Assign Master Pages?

Hello Framers,

Is there in Frame 9 a quick (or at least efficient) way of assigning a master 
page to multiple body pages at once?

I am dumping text from one Frame doc into another that is essentially a galley 
proof--one text frame with changing running heads based half on heading tags 
and half on other content.

Applying a master page to a range of body pages (or all pages) in the Master 
Page Usage dialog would take care of only a portion of my document at best, 
since the running heads often change every page and often are not consecutive. 
I tried mapping a master page to a heading tag in the Master Page Maps 
reference page, but that doesn't seem to work: once I manually apply a master 
page, the reference page setting for until changed appears to function, but 
the master associated with the heading isn't being applied automatically in the 
first place. Maybe I don't understand the operation of the Master Page Maps 
table?

I am wishing for something like QuarkXPress' Page Layout palette, where one can 
click-and-drag a master page icon onto a page or group of page icons to apply.

Hope I've just forgotten something simple--very possible since I only do this 
project once a year. I don't look forward to applying master pages manually 
hundreds of times.

Thanks,
Karen
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Better Way to Assign Master Pages?

[Bernard Gagne]

Hi Karen,
As I understand it, only paragraph tags in the main flow (body pages) can be 
used to map Master Pages. Anything in the Headers and Footers is ignored.
If that is what you are trying to do, then you will need to change your 
tactics. Try mapping to the paragraph tags used for the runing head text 
instead. You are using variables, right?
Best regards,
?
Berny Gagne
Sr. Technical Writer
Thinkpath Engineering
Toronto, Ontario



From: Karen Robbins 
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com 
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 8:06:59 PM
Subject: Better Way to Assign Master Pages?

Hello Framers,

Is there in Frame 9 a quick (or at least efficient) way of assigning a master 
page to multiple body pages at once?

I am dumping text from one Frame doc into another that is essentially a galley 
proof--one text frame with changing running heads based half on heading tags 
and half on other content.

Applying a master page to a range of body pages (or all pages) in the Master 
Page Usage dialog would take care of only a portion of my document at best, 
since the running heads often change every page and often are not consecutive. 
I tried mapping a master page to a heading tag in the Master Page Maps 
reference page, but that doesn't seem to work: once I manually apply a master 
page, the reference page setting for "until changed" appears to function, but 
the master associated with the heading isn't being applied automatically in the 
first place. Maybe I don't understand the operation of the Master Page Maps 
table?

I am wishing for something like QuarkXPress' Page Layout palette, where one can 
click-and-drag a master page icon onto a page or group of page icons to apply.

Hope I've just forgotten something simple--very possible since I only do this 
project once a year. I don't look forward to applying master pages manually 
hundreds of times.

Thanks,
Karen
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Re: Turkish Characters Don't Display

[Bernard Gagne]

Hi Ed,
There could be several reasons for this problem. In order to help we need the version of FrameMaker you are using and your operating system.
Thanks,

Berny Gagne
Sr. Technical Writer
Thinkpath Engineering
Toronto, Ontario




From: Ed Lightle eligh...@commandalkon.comTo: "framers@lists.frameusers.com" framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 8:07:02 AMSubject: Turkish Characters Don't Display





Hello. My translation vendor is using FrameMaker to translate English documents to Turkish. But he has the following problem:

I am transferring Turkish text to the FrameMaker file, and I am losing some Turkish characters. For example, the “ğ” in the word “değildir”.

Any idea why this is happening?

Thanks,

Ed Lightle
Sr. Technical Writer
614-799-0600 Ext. 5225

Command Alkon
5168 Blazer Parkway | Dublin, Ohio 43017-1339
Tel: +1 (614) 799-6650 Ext. 1222 | www.commandalkon.com
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Re: Turkish Characters Don't Display

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Hi Ed,
Frame 7.0 didn't support Unicode. As I recall, when we were faced with a similar problem, we had to perform some registry editing to get Frame to see Arial TUR. You'll have to search online for the coding because it's been long enough I've forgotten how we did it. Even there, because Frame allocates certain key codes to internal functions, some letters consistently mapped incorrectly and had to be edited manually.

Berny Gagne
Sr. Technical Writer
Thinkpath Engineering
Toronto, Ontario




From: Ed Lightle eligh...@commandalkon.comTo: Rick Quatro r...@rickquatro.com; "framers@lists.frameusers.com" framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 11:56:14 AMSubject: RE: Turkish Characters Don't Display





Rick,
I’m still using FrameMaker 7.0.

Thanks,
Ed



From: Rick Quatro [mailto:r...@rickquatro.com] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 11:55 AMTo: Ed Lightle; framers@lists.frameusers.comSubject: RE: Turkish Characters Don't Display

Hi Ed,

What version of FrameMaker are you using? FrameMaker 8 and above supports Unicode. If you are using FrameMaker 8 or above, you should use a translator that at least matches your version.

Rick

Rick Quatro
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From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Ed LightleSent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 11:40 AMTo: framers@lists.frameusers.comSubject: RE: Turkish Characters Don't Display

Here is some more information from my translator.

- FrameMaker 7.1
- Windows Vista Home Premium

- Turkish text is being transfered from TTX (Trados) format to MIF. The characters get lost in the transfer. We found a font called Arial TUR for FM. Once we have the text in MIF, we change the font to Arial TUR and it is working.

- Destination paragraph style font is Arial TUR. Check and see that you have Arial TUR in your list of fonts for FM.

Thanks,
Ed Lightle



From: Ed Lightle Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 8:07 AMTo: 'framers@lists.frameusers.com'Subject: Turkish Characters Don't Display

Hello. My translation vendor is using FrameMaker to translate English documents to Turkish. But he has the following problem:

I am transferring Turkish text to the FrameMaker file, and I am losing some Turkish characters. For example, the “ğ” in the word “değildir”.

Any idea why this is happening?

Thanks,

Ed Lightle
Sr. Technical Writer
614-799-0600 Ext. 5225

Command Alkon
5168 Blazer Parkway | Dublin, Ohio 43017-1339
Tel: +1 (614) 799-6650 Ext. 1222 | www.commandalkon.com
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Turkish Characters Don't Display

[Bernard Gagne]

Hi Ed,
There could be several reasons for this problem. In order to help we need the 
version of FrameMaker you are using and your operating system.
Thanks,
?
Berny Gagne
Sr. Technical Writer
Thinkpath Engineering
Toronto, Ontario



From: Ed Lightle 
To: "framers at lists.frameusers.com"  
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 8:07:02 AM
Subject: Turkish Characters Don't Display


Hello.? My translation vendor is using FrameMaker to translate English 
documents to Turkish.? But he has the following problem:
?
I am transferring Turkish text to the FrameMaker file, and I am losing some 
Turkish characters.? For example, the ??? in the word ?de?ildir?.
?
Any idea why this is happening?
?
Thanks,
?
Ed Lightle
Sr. Technical Writer
614-799-0600 Ext. 5225
?
CommandAlkon
5168 Blazer Parkway | Dublin, Ohio 43017-1339
Tel: +1 (614) 799-6650?Ext. 1222 | www.commandalkon.com
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Turkish Characters Don't Display

[Bernard Gagne]

Hi Ed,
Frame 7.0 didn't support Unicode. As I recall, when we were faced with a 
similar problem, we had to perform some registry editing to get Frame to see 
Arial TUR. You'll have to search online for the coding because it's been long 
enough I've forgotten how we did it. Even there, because Frame allocates 
certain key codes to internal functions, some letters consistently mapped 
incorrectly and had to be edited manually.
?
Berny Gagne
Sr. Technical Writer
Thinkpath Engineering
Toronto, Ontario



From: Ed Lightle 
To: Rick Quatro ; "framers at lists.frameusers.com" 
 
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 11:56:14 AM
Subject: RE: Turkish Characters Don't Display


Rick,
I?m still using FrameMaker 7.0.
?
Thanks,
Ed
?
From:Rick Quatro [mailto:rick at rickquatro.com] 
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 11:55 AM
To: Ed Lightle; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Turkish Characters Don't Display
?
Hi Ed,
?
What version of FrameMaker are you using? FrameMaker 8 and above supports 
Unicode. If you are using FrameMaker 8 or above, you should use a translator 
that at least matches your version.
?
Rick
?
Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-283-5045
585-219-8959 fax
rick at frameexpert.com
http://www.frameexpert.com
?
?
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lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Ed Lightle
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 11:40 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Turkish Characters Don't Display
?
Here is some more information from my translator.
?
- FrameMaker 7.1
- Windows Vista Home Premium
?
- Turkish text is being transfered from TTX (Trados) format to MIF. The 
characters get lost in the transfer. We found a font called Arial TUR for FM. 
Once we have the text in MIF, we change the font to Arial TUR and it is working.
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- Destination paragraph style font is Arial TUR. Check and see that you have 
Arial TUR in your list of fonts for FM.
?
Thanks,
Ed Lightle
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From:Ed Lightle 
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 8:07 AM
To: 'framers at lists.frameusers.com'
Subject: Turkish Characters Don't Display
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Hello.? My translation vendor is using FrameMaker to translate English 
documents to Turkish.? But he has the following problem:
?
I am transferring Turkish text to the FrameMaker file, and I am losing some 
Turkish characters.? For example, the ??? in the word ?de?ildir?.
?
Any idea why this is happening?
?
Thanks,
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Ed Lightle
Sr. Technical Writer
614-799-0600 Ext. 5225
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CommandAlkon
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Re: Phantom character format override in FrameMaker 10

[Bernard Gagne]

Hi Joseph,
Do you use Conditional Text?
The last time I checked (and the main reason I stopped using conditional text 
at my last company) Frame creates a character format override for every line of 
a praragraph that is conditionalized. It was a major pain for us, especially 
with multiple languages. We found it easier to nuke the conditions.
 
Bernard Gagne
Lead Technical Writer
Thinkpath Engineering



From: Joseph Lorenzini jalo...@gmail.com
To: FrameMaker Forum framers@lists.frameusers.com 
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 12:51:10 PM
Subject: Phantom character format override in FrameMaker 10


Hi all,

I am using the Find Character Format Override option in the find dialog box. 
I am constantly getting a hit on the paragraph where a text inset is inserted. 
If the paragraph is Body, then it does not find an override. If however the 
paragraph format is anchor, then it does find an override. I am at a loss as to 
why one paragraph format causes a character format override to be found while 
the other does not. I have verified that the text inset does NOT contain a 
character format override. 

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Joseph Lorenzini

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[Bernard Gagne]

Hi Joseph,
Do you use Conditional Text?
The last time I checked (and the main reason I stopped using conditional text 
at my last company) Frame creates a character format override for every line of 
a praragraph that is conditionalized. It was a major pain for us, especially 
with multiple languages. We found it easier to nuke the conditions.
?
Bernard Gagne
Lead Technical Writer
Thinkpath Engineering



From: Joseph Lorenzini <jalo...@gmail.com>
To: FrameMaker Forum  
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 12:51:10 PM
Subject: Phantom character format override in FrameMaker 10


Hi all,

I am using the "Find Character Format Override" option in the find dialog box. 
I am constantly getting a hit on the paragraph where a text inset is inserted. 
If the paragraph is "Body", then it does not find an override. If however the 
paragraph format is anchor, then it does find an override. I am at a loss as to 
why one paragraph format causes a "character format override" to be found while 
the other does not. I have verified that the text inset does NOT contain a 
character format override. 

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Joseph Lorenzini

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Re: Corrupted graphics placement by reference

[Bernard Gagne]

Hi Phillip,
I wasn't even aware that you could run such an old version of Frame on Windows 
7, so I'm not entirely surprised you are having some intermittent problems. I 
was going to suggest running it in XP compatibility mode but that is not 
available with Windows 7 Home.In actuality, it isn't a new machine you need, 
it's an old operating system. Frame 5.5.6 needs Windows XP.

Berny Gagne
Lead Technical Writer
Thinkpath Engineering
Toronto, Ontario





From: Phillip Norman pjnor...@gmail.com
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 9:17:23 AM
Subject: Corrupted graphics placement by reference


I am using FrameMaker 5.5.6 in Windows 7 Home Premium. Within the past week, 
and never before, photo graphics placed by reference gray randomly in printing, 
and sometimes within Frame sessions. I can't print a document with as few as a 
dozen pictures, without a lost reference. I find slight control in re-importing 
graphics. Uninstall and re-install did nothing to help.

I use FrameMaker daily to document work as a construction contractor, and must 
do something. I suspect a new computer or new hard drive might behave.

Phillip Norman
Attic Access, Portland, Oregon
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Corrupted graphics placement by reference

[Bernard Gagne]

Hi Phillip,
I wasn't even aware that you could run such an old version of Frame on Windows 
7, so I'm not entirely surprised you are having some intermittent problems. I 
was going to suggest running it in XP compatibility mode but that is not 
available with Windows 7 Home.In actuality, it isn't a new machine you need, 
it's an old operating system. Frame 5.5.6 needs Windows XP.

Berny Gagne
Lead Technical Writer
Thinkpath Engineering
Toronto, Ontario





From: Phillip Norman 
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 9:17:23 AM
Subject: Corrupted graphics placement by reference


I am using FrameMaker 5.5.6 in Windows 7 Home Premium. Within the past week, 
and never before, photo graphics placed by reference gray randomly in printing, 
and sometimes within Frame sessions. I can't print a document with as few as a 
dozen pictures, without a lost reference. I find slight control in re-importing 
graphics. Uninstall and re-install did nothing to help.

I use FrameMaker daily to document work as a construction contractor, and must 
do something. I suspect a new computer or new hard drive might behave.

Phillip Norman
Attic Access, Portland, Oregon
pjnorman at gmail.com
http://sites.google.com/site/phillipnormanatticaccess/
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Re: Extracting art from Word docs

[Bernard Gagne]

Hi Thomas,
I've had to do this on a number of occasions and the method I prefer is to save 
the Word doc as an HTML file. Word then creates a separate folder where it 
places all the images, both re-scaled for web and original imported size. So 
mind which ones you choose.

Bernard Gagne




From: Thomas Scalise thomas.scal...@crossmatch.com
To: 'framers@lists.frameusers.com' framers@lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 10:01:52 AM
Subject: Extracting art from Word docs


 
Esteemed colleagues,
 
A while back there was a technique noted on this forum for saving a Word (docx) 
document such that the art was automatically extracted into a separate folder 
from the text. Can anyone help me with this technique? We are converting a 
number of art-rich Word docs into our Frame templates and would very much like 
to have this technique in hand. Thanks in advance.
 
 
Tom Scalise
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[Bernard Gagne]

Hi Thomas,
I've had to do this on a number of occasions and the method I prefer is to save 
the Word doc as an HTML file. Word then creates a separate folder where it 
places all the images, both re-scaled for web and original imported size. So 
mind which ones you choose.

Bernard Gagne




From: Thomas Scalise <thomas.scal...@crossmatch.com>
To: "'framers at lists.frameusers.com'" 
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 10:01:52 AM
Subject: Extracting art from Word docs



Esteemed colleagues,
?
A while back there was a technique noted on this forum for saving a Word (docx) 
document such that the art was automatically extracted into a separate folder 
from the text. Can anyone help me with this technique? We are converting a 
number of art-rich Word docs into our Frame templates and would very much like 
to have this technique in hand. Thanks in advance.
?
?
Tom Scalise
Information Development Manager
Office (561) 622-5416
Fax (561) 622-9938
thomas.scalise at crossmatch.com
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Re: Slightly OT: Frame 10 landscape pages not recognised in Acrobat X

[Bernard Gagne]

Good day everyone,
As I understand it, the main problem with Save as PDF has always been what 
you have defined as your Default Printer. If it was anything other than Adobe 
PDF, then you had no end of problems. It was my understanding that with Frame 
7, Save as PDF would automatically use the Adobe PDF print definitions and 
thus work as advertised. I've never had a problem with it, maybe because my 
Default Printer under Frame is always Adobe PDF.
As always, YMMV.

Berny Gagne





From: Lea Rush l...@astoria-pacific.com
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 11:41:37 AM
Subject: RE: Slightly OT: Frame 10 landscape pages not recognised in Acrobat X


Hi Art,
 
Sadly, regardless of the fact that Adobe has owned both Frame and Acrobat for 
quite a while, the collective wisdom on this list is that “Save as PDF” should 
not be used. Ever. Many folks have posted problems with this feature ranging 
across four versions of Frame that I know of, and I’m a relative newcomer. A 
few people have posted that it works for them, and more power to them. For 
myself, I’ve given up ever even attempting it.
 
YMMV,
Lea 
 

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Slightly OT: Frame 10 landscape pages not recognised in Acrobat X

[Bernard Gagne]

Good day everyone,
As I understand it, the main problem with "Save as PDF" has always been what 
you have defined as your Default Printer. If it was anything other than Adobe 
PDF, then you had no end of problems. It was my understanding that with Frame 
7, "Save as PDF" would automatically use the Adobe PDF print definitions and 
thus work as advertised. I've never had a problem with it, maybe because my 
Default Printer under Frame is always Adobe PDF.
As always, YMMV.

Berny Gagne





From: Lea Rush 
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 11:41:37 AM
Subject: RE: Slightly OT: Frame 10 landscape pages not recognised in Acrobat X


Hi Art,

Sadly, regardless of the fact that Adobe has owned both Frame and Acrobat for 
quite a while, the collective wisdom on this list is that ?Save as PDF? should 
not be used. Ever. Many folks have posted problems with this feature ranging 
across four versions of Frame that I know of, and I?m a relative newcomer. A 
few people have posted that it works for them, and more power to them. For 
myself, I?ve given up ever even attempting it.

YMMV,
Lea 


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Astoria-Pacific International
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Re: autonumber at end of text is mis-aligned

[Bernard Gagne]

Hi Leigh,
This appears to be the intended behaviour. To be honest, I can't think of a 
single instance where I have wanted the autonumber to begin at the end of a 
paragraph so it has never been an issue for me.
Best of luck.

Berny Gagne
Independent Technical Communications Contractor


From: LW White lwwhi...@hotmail.com
To: FrameUsersDigest framers@lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 2, 2011 2:11:51 PM
Subject: autonumber at end of text is mis-aligned


I'm trying to add some text as autonumbering at the end of a paragraph. 
Regardless of the justification setting for the paragraph format, the 
autonumber is right-justified, creating a LOT of blank space between the 
paragraph text and the autonumber. In other words, I want

Blah blah blah - Continued

(where -Continued is the autonumber)

but I get

Blah blah blah..- 
Continued|

where | is the right margin and the dots represent blank space. Happens 
regardless of whether the autonumber is text, a building block, whatever. 
What's up with this?

Thanks,
Leigh

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[Bernard Gagne]

Hi Leigh,
This appears to be the intended behaviour. To be honest, I can't think of a 
single instance where I have wanted the autonumber to begin at the end of a 
paragraph so it has never been an issue for me.
Best of luck.

Berny Gagne
Independent Technical Communications Contractor


From: LW White 
To: FrameUsersDigest 
Sent: Wednesday, March 2, 2011 2:11:51 PM
Subject: autonumber at end of text is mis-aligned


I'm trying to add some text as autonumbering at the end of a paragraph. 
Regardless of the justification setting for the paragraph format, the 
autonumber is right-justified, creating a LOT of blank space between the 
paragraph text and the autonumber. In other words, I want

Blah blah blah - Continued

(where "-Continued" is the autonumber)

but I get

Blah blah blah..- 
Continued|

where | is the right margin and the dots represent blank space. Happens 
regardless of whether the autonumber is text, a building block, whatever. 
What's up with this?

Thanks,
Leigh

Virtual Box

[Bernard Gagne]

Hi Rick,
You start by running it on OS X, that's how! :-)
I actually run Frame 7.1 and 8 with WinXP in both VMware Fusion and Parallels. 
I 
just got Fusion and I'm trying to compare it to Parallels (which I find very 
good, if occasionally sluggish on my MacBook Pro).
I will admit I had never heard of Virtualbox until now and I am intrigued.

Berny Gagne
Independent Technical Writer





From: Rick Quatro 
To: "White, Scott" ; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Thu, September 30, 2010 4:28:13 PM
Subject: RE: Virtual Box

Hi Scott,

I am running it on Windows 7 with Windows XP and Ubuntu guests. It works
great. Now I can figure out how to run OSX on it, I will really be happy :-)

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-659-8267
rick at frameexpert.com

*** Frame Automation blog at http://frameautomation.com




We are running parallels on our macs here so that we can run Frame. We
have run across a like program from Oracle called "virtual box." Has
anyone heard of it? Any feed back would be appreciated.

Scott White
Media Production Manager
Alamark Technologies
210-704-8239

can't view imported eps file

[Bernard Gagne]

Hi Brenda,
Was the EPS file created with a TIFF preview? Frame cannot display EPS files 
without a preview; all you get is a gray box.
I suggest opening the image in Adobe Illustrator or CorelDraw and creating a 
preview for the file.

Berny Gagne
Independent Technical Writer/Illustrator





From: "George, Brenda (CAI)" 
To: "framers at lists.frameusers.com" 
Sent: Tue, September 21, 2010 9:30:11 AM
Subject: can't view imported eps file

I have imported an eps file into a FrameMaker template's master page. The eps 
file is located on a server.

When I view the master page, the eps file is not visible. Instead a shaded box 
displays. I can only see the eps file if I flow data into the template, and 
then 
create a pdf of the FrameMaker pages.

Is there a setting that I can change so that I can view the imported eps in the 
frameMaker files?

Brenda George
Desk: (724) 720-8491
bgeorge at federatedinv.com

Re: Changing templates - converting paragraph tags

[Bernard Gagne]

Hi David,
You have a couple of options available to you if you aren't against spending a 
few pennies.

First, Rick Quatro has devised a Frame plugin that does exactly what you need. 
It's called FindChangeSpecial and at $30 it's a bargain when you consider the 
amount of work it will save you. I've had it for several years now and wouldn't 
part with it. You can find it at:
http://www.frameexpert.com/plugins/findchangespecial/index.htm

Second, SiliconPrairie has a utility called Paragraph Tools that allows you to 
create a paragraph conversion list that you can apply to your entire book all 
in 
one go. You can't beat the $10 price tag.
http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/Products.html

Between the two of them you'll have your book in shape in no time.

Berny Gagne





From: David Millis david.mil...@drakesoftware.com
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 2:18:21 PM
Subject: Changing templates - converting paragraph tags

I am changing to a new template with totally different master pages,
paragraph tags, etc. I was hoping to do a find and replace to change my
book to use the new paragraph styles. However, in Frame 7.2, I can find
a paragraph tag but the replace options only include to change to Text,
change the character format, or by pasting.

I know I can redefine my existing paragraph tags to match something in
the new template but then the tag names won't match those in the new
template. Does anyone have a suggestion other than changing the
paragraph tag for each paragraph in a 300 page book?

Thanks for the help in advance.

David
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[Bernard Gagne]

Hi David,
You have a couple of options available to you if you aren't against spending a 
few pennies.

First, Rick Quatro has devised a Frame plugin that does exactly what you need. 
It's called "FindChangeSpecial" and at $30 it's a bargain when you consider the 
amount of work it will save you. I've had it for several years now and wouldn't 
part with it. You can find it at:
http://www.frameexpert.com/plugins/findchangespecial/index.htm

Second, SiliconPrairie has a utility called Paragraph Tools that allows you to 
create a paragraph conversion list that you can apply to your entire book all 
in 
one go. You can't beat the $10 price tag.
http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/Products.html

Between the two of them you'll have your book in shape in no time.

Berny Gagne





From: David Millis 
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 2:18:21 PM
Subject: Changing templates - converting paragraph tags

I am changing to a new template with totally different master pages,
paragraph tags, etc. I was hoping to do a find and replace to change my
book to use the new paragraph styles. However, in Frame 7.2, I can find
a paragraph tag but the replace options only include to change to Text,
change the character format, or "by pasting".

I know I can redefine my existing paragraph tags to match something in
the new template but then the tag names won't match those in the new
template. Does anyone have a suggestion other than changing the
paragraph tag for each paragraph in a 300 page book?

Thanks for the help in advance.

David

Re: how to get rid of 'license expired'....

[Bernard Gagne]

Hi Wim,
At the risk of stating the obvious, did you reactivate the new Frame 9 license 
with Adobe via the Internet?
I seem to recall having a similar issue with Frame 8 after using a trial copy 
for a month.

Berny Gagne





From: Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp w...@idtp.eu
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Wed, August 25, 2010 9:01:16 AM
Subject: how to get rid of 'license expired'

H,



I had a trial installation of FM9 on my laptop. Now I have replaced it with
a licensed copy, but starting up keeps giving the error message:  licensing
for this product has expired.  What can I do to get rid of this error?



Thanks,





Kind regards, vriendelijke groet,

Wim Hooghwinkel

iDTP - Technical Communication Consultant

Adobe Certified Expert (ACE) in FrameMaker

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[Bernard Gagne]

Hi Wim,
At the risk of stating the obvious, did you reactivate the new Frame 9 license 
with Adobe via the Internet?
I seem to recall having a similar issue with Frame 8 after using a trial copy 
for a month.

Berny Gagne





From: Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp 
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Wed, August 25, 2010 9:01:16 AM
Subject: how to get rid of 'license expired'

H,



I had a trial installation of FM9 on my laptop. Now I have replaced it with
a licensed copy, but starting up keeps giving the error message:  licensing
for this product has expired.  What can I do to get rid of this error?



Thanks,





Kind regards, vriendelijke groet,

Wim Hooghwinkel

iDTP - Technical Communication Consultant

Adobe Certified Expert (ACE) in FrameMaker

tel. +31652036811
Skype wimhooghwinkel
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Re: Page Numbering Format (# of ##) in an FM Book

[Bernard Gagne]

Jasmine,
The easiest way I found was to insert the $lastpagenum variable in the very 
last page of my book, and cross-reference it for all the other chapters.
It worked just fine.

Berny Gagne




From: Graham, Jasmine S yassamin.gra...@weatherford.com
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Tue, June 8, 2010 1:34:24 PM
Subject: Page Numbering Format (# of ##) in an FM Book

Hello Framers,



I need to setup page numbering formatted as Page # of ## in a book with 
several files. The Page Count variable (building block $lastpagenum), pulls 
the last page number of the current file, not the last page number in the book. 
So, it's correct in the last file of the book, but not the others.



Is there any way to set up a variable that will read the last page number in 
the book? Or, is there another way to accomplish this without setting it 
manually after I generate the final book? 



TIA!



Jasmine Graham

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Page Numbering Format (# of ##) in an FM Book

[Bernard Gagne]

Jasmine,
The easiest way I found was to insert the <$lastpagenum> variable in the very 
last page of my book, and cross-reference it for all the other chapters.
It worked just fine.

Berny Gagne




From: "Graham, Jasmine S" 
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Sent: Tue, June 8, 2010 1:34:24 PM
Subject: Page Numbering Format (# of ##) in an FM Book

Hello Framers,



I need to setup page numbering formatted as "Page # of ##" in a book with 
several files. The Page Count variable (building block <$lastpagenum>), pulls 
the last page number of the current file, not the last page number in the book. 
So, it's correct in the last file of the book, but not the others.



Is there any way to set up a variable that will read the last page number in 
the book? Or, is there another way to accomplish this without setting it 
manually after I generate the final book? 



TIA!



Jasmine Graham

Technical Writer, Research and Development 

Wireline Services

Weatherford ? 481 Winscott Road ? Fort Worth ? TX ? 76126 

Main: +1.817.249.7200 ? Direct: +1.817.249.7032 ? Fax: +1.817.249.7885 ? 
Mobile: +1.817.235.3620 

jasmine.graham at weatherford.com? www.weatherford.com

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