Collaborate with PDF-based roundtrip reviews?

[Deanna Korth]

Hi,

We are migrating from FrameMaker 7.2 to FrameMaker 11. In our current
workflow, we create a PDF file and use Adobe Acrobat 7.0 Professional to
enable commenting in it so that reviewers who don't have FrameMaker can
electronically review and comment on our FrameMaker documents. We then
merge the electronic comments into the PDF file and manually change the
FrameMaker files accordingly.

For FrameMaker 11, Adobe advertises, Collaborate with PDF-based roundtrip
reviews. I've searched, but I can't find how these types of reviews are
implemented. Can you briefly explain how this feature works? Mainly I want
to know if we need to purchase Adobe Acrobat Professional X to retain our
ability to solicit electronic reviews from reviewers who don't have
FrameMaker or if the need for Acrobat Professional is eliminated by this
feature in FrameMaker 11.

Thanks,

Deanna.
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Collaborate with PDF-based roundtrip reviews?

[Deanna Korth]

Hi,

We are migrating from FrameMaker 7.2 to FrameMaker 11. In our current
workflow, we create a PDF file and use Adobe Acrobat 7.0 Professional to
enable commenting in it so that reviewers who don't have FrameMaker can
electronically review and comment on our FrameMaker documents. We then
merge the electronic comments into the PDF file and manually change the
FrameMaker files accordingly.

For FrameMaker 11, Adobe advertises, "Collaborate with PDF-based roundtrip
reviews." I've searched, but I can't find how these types of reviews are
implemented. Can you briefly explain how this feature works? Mainly I want
to know if we need to purchase Adobe Acrobat Professional X to retain our
ability to solicit electronic reviews from reviewers who don't have
FrameMaker or if the need for Acrobat Professional is eliminated by this
feature in FrameMaker 11.

Thanks,

Deanna.
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RE: Which FMaker version?

[Deanna Korth]

Art,

Why do you suggest to upgrading Acrobat to X? I'm using FrameMaker 7.2 and 
looking to upgrade to FrameMaker 10 for 64-bit support. I use Acrobat 7.0 
Professional for sending commenting-enabled PDF files made from FrameMaker 
source files out for review. My understanding of Frame 10 is that you can 
created commenting-enabled PDF files. Do I need Acrobat X?

Thanks,

Deanna.

From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Art Campbell 
[art.campb...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 6:29 AM
To: visualbis...@comcast.net; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Which FMaker version?

I'd go a little further.

If you're in production and want the fewest problems, go with the
current release, 10.

You really don't have a choice, but the good news is that it's built
to run well on W7 (and does, most of the time), and has a number of
tools and features that make writing life easier. DO NOT try to cut a
corner and skip upgrading Acrobat (assuming you use the full version)
to X.

Do look into FM's new licensing / maintenance / upgrade program...

Art Campbell
   art.campb...@gmail.com
  ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers apply.
   DoD 358

I support www.TheGrotonLine.com, hyperlocal news for Groton MA.



On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 7:03 AM, Steve Rickaby
srick...@wordmongers.demon.co.uk wrote:
 At 02:04 + 12/8/11, visualbis...@comcast.net wrote:

What are the general thoughts from this community? What are the PROs and 
CONs? What should I recommend? We are a small startup business (check out 
http://www.agilyx.comwww.agilyx.com), and have to keep an eye on the 
budget, but we want to create professional results in everything we do.

 As Peter suggested, older version would only be occasionally available from 
 the likes of eBay. However, I went to FrameMaker 7 on Mac via that route and 
 it gave me no problems. At some point I will try to go to v 8 for Windows via 
 the same route, when I upgrade my main Mac to one of the Intel-based models.

 I have no direct experience of versions after 7, but others have said they 
 prefer FrameMaker 8. v 9 introduced the new Adobe-style palette-based UI, to 
 general derision, but DITA support got better across 8 - 9 - 10. 
 Conditional text was improved significantly with one of the version later 
 than 7 to allow the use of Boolean conditions, but I'm not sure whether those 
 came in with v 8 or v 9.

 If you don't need DITA/structure, consider looking for a second-hand full 
 copy of FrameMaker 8, but see what other opinions you get.

 --
 Steve
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Which FMaker version?

[Deanna Korth]

Art,

Why do you suggest to upgrading Acrobat to X? I'm using FrameMaker 7.2 and 
looking to upgrade to FrameMaker 10 for 64-bit support. I use Acrobat 7.0 
Professional for sending commenting-enabled PDF files made from FrameMaker 
source files out for review. My understanding of Frame 10 is that you can 
created commenting-enabled PDF files. Do I need Acrobat X?

Thanks,

Deanna.

From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [framers-bounces at 
lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Art Campbell [art.campb...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 6:29 AM
To: visualbistro at comcast.net; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Which FMaker version?

I'd go a little further.

If you're in production and want the fewest problems, go with the
current release, 10.

You really don't have a choice, but the good news is that it's built
to run well on W7 (and does, most of the time), and has a number of
tools and features that make writing life easier. DO NOT try to cut a
corner and skip upgrading Acrobat (assuming you use the full version)
to X.

Do look into FM's new licensing / maintenance / upgrade program...

Art Campbell
   art.campbell at gmail.com
  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers apply.
   DoD 358

I support www.TheGrotonLine.com, hyperlocal news for Groton MA.



On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 7:03 AM, Steve Rickaby
 wrote:
> At 02:04 + 12/8/11, visualbistro at comcast.net wrote:
>
>>What are the general thoughts from this "community?" What are the PROs and 
>>CONs? What should I recommend? We are a small startup business (check out 
>>www.agilyx.com), and have to keep an eye on the 
>>budget, but we want to create professional results in everything we do.
>
> As Peter suggested, older version would only be occasionally available from 
> the likes of eBay. However, I went to FrameMaker 7 on Mac via that route and 
> it gave me no problems. At some point I will try to go to v 8 for Windows via 
> the same route, when I upgrade my main Mac to one of the Intel-based models.
>
> I have no direct experience of versions after 7, but others have said they 
> prefer FrameMaker 8. v 9 introduced the new Adobe-style palette-based UI, to 
> general derision, but DITA support got better across 8 -> 9 -> 10. 
> Conditional text was improved significantly with one of the version later 
> than 7 to allow the use of Boolean conditions, but I'm not sure whether those 
> came in with v 8 or v 9.
>
> If you don't need DITA/structure, consider looking for a second-hand full 
> copy of FrameMaker 8, but see what other opinions you get.
>
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