Can I customize what elements display when linking cross-references?
I am using FM 7.2 (Structured) with Windows XP. We were given new safety pages to replace the old ones in all of our books. There is a mini TOC at the beginning of the chapter that is very similar with three exceptions. Therefore, most of the links do not get lost, but I have to re-link those three. So when I double-click the link the Cross-Reference box opens. Because this tag wasn't used before, it doesn't appear in the right-hand list (Cross-Reference Markers). And the left-hand box (Markers Type) displays only the Cross Ref element. So I click on the Source Type and select Paragraphs to display the paragraph elements in the left-hand list that I can choose from, in this case SubHead. Then Frame displays the subheads in the right-hand box, and I select the one I need. Is there a faster way to accomplish this? If I could get the Paragraph Source Type to continue to display, then I could save some steps in searching. If I select Elements Listed In Order left-hand box (Element Tags) only displays Chapter and Section, it doesn't go to Header, SubHead, etc. So the question is Can I get the Paragraph Source type to become the default somehow? OR Can I change the Elements Listed In Order to include my Header and SubHead elements? OR is there another way I am not thinking of? I hope I have given you enough information. If not please ask. Thank you for your time. Natalie Bircher Technical Writer BackStreet Media Phone: 320-843-4337 Fax: 320-842-4236 Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Can I customize what elements display when linking cross-references?
I am using FM 7.2 (Structured) with Windows XP. We were given new safety pages to replace the old ones in all of our books. There is a "mini TOC" at the beginning of the chapter that is very similar with three exceptions. Therefore, most of the links do not get lost, but I have to re-link those three. So when I double-click the link the Cross-Reference box opens. Because this tag wasn't used before, it doesn't appear in the right-hand list (Cross-Reference Markers). And the left-hand box (Markers Type) displays only the Cross Ref element. So I click on the Source Type and select Paragraphs to display the paragraph elements in the left-hand list that I can choose from, in this case "SubHead." Then Frame displays the subheads in the right-hand box, and I select the one I need. Is there a faster way to accomplish this? If I could get the Paragraph Source Type to continue to display, then I could save some steps in searching. If I select "Elements Listed In Order" left-hand box (Element Tags) only displays Chapter and Section, it doesn't go to Header, SubHead, etc. So the question is Can I get the Paragraph Source type to become the default somehow? OR Can I change the Elements Listed In Order to include my Header and SubHead elements? OR is there another way I am not thinking of? I hope I have given you enough information. If not please ask. Thank you for your time. Natalie Bircher Technical Writer BackStreet Media Phone: 320-843-4337 Fax: 320-842-4236 Email: <mailto:natalieb at backstreetmedia.com> natalieb at backstreetmedia.com
RE: Why am I losing page and column breaks?
Stuart!! Where do you get off busting my chops? You apparently need more help than the others that have answered my question with the information I gave. I didn't need to give them my OS or FM version to answer this question. Your tone is arrogant and self-serving. You would do better to keep to yourself. Natalie -Original Message- From: Stuart Rogers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Why am I losing page and column breaks? Natalie Bircher wrote: Does anyone know why I would lose page and column breaks? In the words of a favourite reference librarian of mine, when speaking to patrons with ill-formed questions: Could you please be a little more vague? Natalie!! You are a technical writer. Please provide some context, lots of details, your OS and FM version, etc. so your audience knows what the heck you are talking about. thanks, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com On the contrary. -- Henrik Ibsen (last words, after a nurse said he seemed a little better.) ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Why am I losing page and column breaks?
First, I apologize for my knee-jerk response...to Stuart and all of you. I really, truly had no idea what type of information you would need to answer such a question. A polite request for that information would have been appropriate, and appreciated. -Original Message- From: Stuart Rogers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 11:13 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Why am I losing page and column breaks? Natalie Bircher wrote: Stuart!! Where do you get off busting my chops? You apparently need more help than the others that have answered my question with the information I gave. I didn't need to give them my OS or FM version to answer this question. Your tone is arrogant and self-serving. You would do better to keep to yourself. Natalie My apologies, Natalie; I did not mean to offend. Obviously I should have sprinkled the posting liberally with winking emoticons, as the intended friendly jibe apparently didn't make it through cyberspace. I admit it is a pet peeve of mine that so often people who are supposedly professional communicators post (on this and other lists) questions that border on the insulting, they are so haphazardly and carelessly formed. Surely our peers deserve a little more effort on the part of the questioners, out of simple respect (and self-respect). If you didn't know what was causing your problem, how did you know that no-one would need your OS and version information to solve it? Have you never encountered version- or platform-specific bugs? It is long-established netiquette to include such basic information as a matter of course, though you are not by any means alone in omitting it. I am happy that the psychics on this list were able to identify the cause of your problem so quickly. Please do share the solution. I promise to keep to myself in regard to any future postings from you. (And thank you, Peter, Rick, Kelly, Richard, and Art, for your supportive remarks.) -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com On the contrary. -- Henrik Ibsen (last words, after a nurse said he seemed a little better.) ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Why am I losing page and column breaks?
Does anyone know why I would lose page and column breaks? Natalie Bircher Technical Writer BackStreet Media Phone: 320-843-4337 Fax: 320-842-4236 Email: <mailto:natalieb at backstreetmedia.com> natalieb at backstreetmedia.com
Why am I losing page and column breaks?
Stuart!! Where do you get off busting my chops? You apparently need more help than the others that have answered my question with the information I gave. I didn't need to give them my OS or FM version to answer this question. Your tone is arrogant and self-serving. You would do better to keep to yourself. Natalie -Original Message- From: Stuart Rogers [mailto:srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:53 AM To: natalieb at backstreetmedia.com Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Why am I losing page and column breaks? Natalie Bircher wrote: > Does anyone know why I would lose page and column breaks? > In the words of a favourite reference librarian of mine, when speaking to patrons with ill-formed questions: "Could you please be a little more vague?" Natalie!! You are a technical writer. Please provide some context, lots of details, your OS and FM version, etc. so your audience knows what the heck you are talking about. thanks, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com "On the contrary." -- Henrik Ibsen (last words, after a nurse said he "seemed a little better.")
Why am I losing page and column breaks?
First, I apologize for my knee-jerk response...to Stuart and all of you. I really, truly had no idea what type of information you would need to answer such a question. A polite request for that information would have been appropriate, and appreciated. -Original Message- From: Stuart Rogers [mailto:srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 11:13 AM To: natalieb at backstreetmedia.com Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Why am I losing page and column breaks? Natalie Bircher wrote: > Stuart!! > Where do you get off busting my chops? > > You apparently need more help than the others that have answered my question > with the information I gave. I didn't need to give them my OS or FM version > to answer this question. > > Your tone is arrogant and self-serving. > > You would do better to keep to yourself. > > Natalie > My apologies, Natalie; I did not mean to offend. Obviously I should have sprinkled the posting liberally with winking emoticons, as the intended friendly jibe apparently didn't make it through cyberspace. I admit it is a pet peeve of mine that so often people who are supposedly "professional communicators" post (on this and other lists) questions that border on the insulting, they are so haphazardly and carelessly formed. Surely our peers deserve a little more effort on the part of the questioners, out of simple respect (and self-respect). If you didn't know what was causing your problem, how did you know that no-one would need your OS and version information to solve it? Have you never encountered version- or platform-specific bugs? It is long-established netiquette to include such basic information as a matter of course, though you are not by any means alone in omitting it. I am happy that the psychics on this list were able to identify the cause of your problem so quickly. Please do share the solution. I promise to keep to myself in regard to any future postings from you. (And thank you, Peter, Rick, Kelly, Richard, and Art, for your supportive remarks.) -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com "On the contrary." -- Henrik Ibsen (last words, after a nurse said he "seemed a little better.")
Why are column breaks are ignored after generating?
For some reason column breaks are intermittently ignored and text gets pushed back to column one after generating. Subsequently the next xref link that appears after the column break, gets broken.sometimes. :-) Any ideas why this is happening? We have resorted to making the space before the place we want the column break to be like 300 pts. so it doesn't get screwed up. Natalie Bircher Technical Writer BackStreet Media Phone: 320-843-4337 Fax: 320-842-4236 Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Why are column breaks are ignored after generating?
For some reason column breaks are intermittently ignored and text gets pushed back to column one after generating. Subsequently the next xref link that appears after the column break, gets broken.sometimes. :-) Any ideas why this is happening? We have resorted to making the space before the place we want the column break to be like 300 pts. so it doesn't get screwed up. Natalie Bircher Technical Writer BackStreet Media Phone: 320-843-4337 Fax: 320-842-4236 Email: <mailto:natalieb at backstreetmedia.com> natalieb at backstreetmedia.com
FM Crashes upon Undo
If I resize a specific graphic (a number balloon) and hit Ctrl+Z, I get the following: Internal Error 7204, 6107874, 7775428, 0. FrameMaker has detected a serious problem and must quit. A file named c:\program files\adobe\framemaker7.2\FrameLog_07.09.10_08.44.05.txt has been generated which contains information that may help Frame development improve the product for future releases. Please describe your recent actions and send this, along with the generated file, to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Due to the volume of feedback, we are unable to respond to technical questions. For support, please refer to http://www.adobe.com/support. --- OK --- And after OK has been pressed --- Adobe FrameMaker (Structured): FrameMaker.exe - Application Error --- The instruction at 0x0034199f referenced memory at 0x. The memory could not be read. Click on OK to terminate the program --- OK I looked this up on the internet and downloaded the 7.2b144 update, restarted Frame and the same thing happens. Any answers out there? (Other than Don't perform the undo after resizing!) Natalie Bircher Technical Writer BackStreet Media Phone: 320-843-4337 Fax: 320-842-4236 Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FM Crashes upon Undo
If I resize a specific graphic (a number balloon) and hit Ctrl+Z, I get the following: Internal Error 7204, 6107874, 7775428, 0. FrameMaker has detected a serious problem and must quit. A file named "c:\program files\adobe\framemaker7.2\FrameLog_07.09.10_08.44.05.txt" has been generated which contains information that may help Frame development improve the product for future releases. Please describe your recent actions and send this, along with the generated file, to fmerror at adobe.com. Due to the volume of feedback, we are unable to respond to technical questions. For support, please refer to http://www.adobe.com/support. --- OK --- And after OK has been pressed --- Adobe FrameMaker (Structured): FrameMaker.exe - Application Error --- The instruction at "0x0034199f" referenced memory at "0x". The memory could not be "read". Click on OK to terminate the program --- OK I looked this up on the internet and downloaded the 7.2b144 update, restarted Frame and the same thing happens. Any answers out there? (Other than "Don't perform the undo after resizing!") Natalie Bircher Technical Writer BackStreet Media Phone: 320-843-4337 Fax: 320-842-4236 Email: <mailto:natalieb at backstreetmedia.com> natalieb at backstreetmedia.com
Print settings for *color* is inconsistant ERROR
In FrameMaker 6.0 (Structured), when generating the book, an employee gets the following error messages for each file in the book: Print settings for black is inconsistent Print settings for cyan is inconsistent Print settings for magenta is inconsistent Print settings for yellow is inconsistent These error msgs don't show when generating on a different employee's computer for the same book. In five of the files he also gets the following: Show/Hide setting for Overlay_1 is inconsistent Show/Hide setting for Overlay_2 is inconsistent These books are all black and white so we don't understand where the color thing is coming from. Any help will be appreciated. Natalie Bircher Technical Writer BackStreet Media Phone: 320-843-4337 Fax: 320-842-4236 Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FW: Faster scrolling
We have graphic-intensive docs and it takes forever to scroll through the doc. Is there a way to speed things up? Natalie Bircher Technical Writer BackStreet Media Phone: 320-843-4337 Fax: 320-842-4236 Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FW: Faster scrolling
We have graphic-intensive docs and it takes forever to scroll through the doc. Is there a way to speed things up? Natalie Bircher Technical Writer BackStreet Media Phone: 320-843-4337 Fax: 320-842-4236 Email: <mailto:natalieb at backstreetmedia.com> natalieb at backstreetmedia.com
Unresolved text insets and relinking images
I need to move frame files and get unresolved text insets after I regenerate and end up having to re-link them all. Is there a way to keep these linked, or am I stuck importing them again? Also, we moved our library of images (don't ask why!) and now I have to re-link all the images. Any suggestions to make this less tedious and keep me from getting carpal tunnel? I have two issues that have resulted because of having to move Frame files. The first one is that I have to re-link all the images because it was decided to move the image catalog to another server. Is there an easier way to do this? The second issue is that I get unresolved text insets for the canned warnings we use. I have to re-import these too. This is extremely tedious and hard on the mousing wrist! Any suggestions? Natalie Bircher Technical Writer BackStreet Media Phone: 320-843-4337 Fax: 320-842-4236 Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Unresolved text insets and relinking images
I need to move frame files and get unresolved text insets after I regenerate and end up having to re-link them all. Is there a way to keep these linked, or am I stuck importing them again? Also, we moved our library of images (don't ask why!) and now I have to re-link all the images. Any suggestions to make this less tedious and keep me from getting carpal tunnel? I have two issues that have resulted because of having to move Frame files. The first one is that I have to re-link all the images because it was decided to move the image catalog to another server. Is there an "easier" way to do this? The second issue is that I get unresolved text insets for the "canned" warnings we use. I have to re-import these too. This is extremely tedious and hard on the mousing wrist! Any suggestions? Natalie Bircher Technical Writer BackStreet Media Phone: 320-843-4337 Fax: 320-842-4236 Email: <mailto:natalieb at backstreetmedia.com> natalieb at backstreetmedia.com
document window size
Can I specify the size of the window that opens when I open a new file? Sometimes the window opens at 120% sometimes it opens as a rectangle, and other times it just opens the file and is minimized at the bottom of the screen. My objective is to have the window open at 83% so I can view the info without having to resize the windows. At times, I wish I had a HUGE monitor to organize all the open files, structure box, tools, designer boxes, etc. that I have to work with at one time. How do you all organize your workspace? Natalie Bircher Technical Writer BackStreet Media Phone: 320-843-4337 Fax: 320-842-4236 Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: document window size
Ah,yes. It is not a new window, it is a saved doc. Strange that FM saves the zoom level, I think. The time that the file opens minimized, is when I open a file from the book. I may pass your suggestions on to the power$ that be to see if I could get another monitor. I always hate to ask for things, but if it will help productivity, then maybe it's okay. Thanks! Natalie -Original Message- From: Lester C. Smalley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 1:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: document window size On Monday, April 16, 2007 12:05 PM, Natalie Bircher wrote: | Can I specify the size of the window that opens when I open | a new file? Sometimes the window opens at 120% sometimes it | opens as a rectangle, and other times it just opens the file | and is minimized at the bottom of the screen. My objective | is to have the window open at 83% so I can view the info | without having to resize the windows. | | At times, I wish I had a HUGE monitor to organize all the | open files, structure box, tools, designer boxes, etc. that | I have to work with at one time. How do you all organize | your workspace? That's very odd - I have never had Frame open a NEW document minimized, or as an oddly shaped window. It opens at the zoom setting in effect when the template was saved, and for the FM supplied ones that is 100%. Are you really opening a new document window, or opening a document that someone else had worked on? If the latter, Frame remembers the zoom settings when saving a document. But I don't believe that it saves the window size or minimized status. As for organizing your workspace, big monitors are good but even better is two decent sized ones. In my opinion, that is absolutely the way to go. There have been a number of discussion in this forum over the years, and no one has ever regretted moving to dual monitors that I recall. The key is the video card(s)-get one with at least 256 MB RAM per monitor. You can either use a dual head card that supports more than one monitor (there are cards available that support three monitors) , or have a separate video card installed in the system for each monitor. In my office, all our Frame users (5) have dual displays, of at least 19 size. User productivity paid for the expense in less than two months. I have twin 21 LCDs at 1600x1200 [each], driven by a NVIDIA GeForce FX5500 w/ 512MB RAM, and absolutely love it. - Lester --- Lester C. Smalley Email: lsmalley AT infocon DOT com Information Consultants, Inc. Phone: 302-239-2942 FAX: 302-239-1712 Yorklyn, DE 19736 Web: www.infocon.com --- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
document window size
Can I specify the size of the window that opens when I open a new file? Sometimes the window opens at 120% sometimes it opens as a rectangle, and other times it just opens the file and is minimized at the bottom of the screen. My objective is to have the window open at 83% so I can view the info without having to resize the windows. At times, I wish I had a HUGE monitor to organize all the open files, structure box, tools, designer boxes, etc. that I have to work with at one time. How do you all organize your workspace? Natalie Bircher Technical Writer BackStreet Media Phone: 320-843-4337 Fax: 320-842-4236 Email: <mailto:natalieb at backstreetmedia.com> natalieb at backstreetmedia.com
document window size
Ah,yes. It is not a new window, it is a saved doc. Strange that FM saves the zoom level, I think. The time that the file opens minimized, is when I open a file from the book. I may pass your suggestions on to the power$ that be to see if I could get another monitor. I always hate to ask for things, but if it will help productivity, then maybe it's okay. Thanks! Natalie -Original Message- From: Lester C. Smalley [mailto:lsmal...@infocon.com] Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 1:11 PM To: natalieb at backstreetmedia.com Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: document window size On Monday, April 16, 2007 12:05 PM, Natalie Bircher wrote: | Can I specify the size of the window that opens when I open | a new file? Sometimes the window opens at 120% sometimes it | opens as a rectangle, and other times it just opens the file | and is minimized at the bottom of the screen. My objective | is to have the window open at 83% so I can view the info | without having to resize the windows. | | At times, I wish I had a HUGE monitor to organize all the | open files, structure box, tools, designer boxes, etc. that | I have to work with at one time. How do you all organize | your workspace? That's very odd - I have never had Frame open a NEW document minimized, or as an oddly shaped window. It opens at the zoom setting in effect when the template was saved, and for the FM supplied ones that is 100%. Are you really opening a new document window, or opening a document that someone else had worked on? If the latter, Frame remembers the zoom settings when saving a document. But I don't believe that it saves the window size or minimized status. As for organizing your workspace, big monitors are good but even better is two decent sized ones. In my opinion, that is absolutely the way to go. There have been a number of discussion in this forum over the years, and no one has ever regretted moving to dual monitors that I recall. The key is the video card(s)-get one with at least 256 MB RAM per monitor. You can either use a "dual head" card that supports more than one monitor (there are cards available that support three monitors) , or have a separate video card installed in the system for each monitor. In my office, all our Frame users (5) have dual displays, of at least 19" size. User productivity paid for the expense in less than two months. I have twin 21" LCDs at 1600x1200 [each], driven by a NVIDIA GeForce FX5500 w/ 512MB RAM, and absolutely love it. - Lester --- Lester C. Smalley Email: lsmalley AT infocon DOT com Information Consultants, Inc. Phone: 302-239-2942 FAX: 302-239-1712 Yorklyn, DE 19736 Web: www.infocon.com ---
Keyboard shortcut to toggle between doc and structured windows
Is there a keyboard shortcut to toggle between the main document and structured windows? Natalie Bircher Technical Writer BackStreet Media Phone: 320-843-4337 Fax: 320-842-4236 Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Keyboard shortcut to toggle between doc and structured windows
Is there a keyboard shortcut to toggle between the main document and structured windows? Natalie Bircher Technical Writer BackStreet Media Phone: 320-843-4337 Fax: 320-842-4236 Email: <mailto:natalieb at backstreetmedia.com> natalieb at backstreetmedia.com
OT - Who should be responsible for proofing?
This is off topic, but something that we all must come across as writers. Who should be responsible for the final proofing of the documents you write? Should it ever be the writer? Natalie Bircher Documentation Specialist Dairyland Healthcare Solutions Phone: 320-634-3841 Fax: 320-634-1349 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This information is confidential and is for the use of the intended recipient only. Any improper use of this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please reply to the sender immediately and delete this communication. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
OT - Who should be responsible for proofing?
This is off topic, but something that we all must come across as writers. Who should be responsible for the final proofing of the documents you write? Should it ever be the writer? Natalie Bircher Documentation Specialist Dairyland Healthcare Solutions Phone: 320-634-3841 Fax: 320-634-1349 Email: natalie.bircher at dhsnet.com This information is confidential and is for the use of the intended recipient only. Any improper use of this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please reply to the sender immediately and delete this communication.
OT - Who should be responsible for proofing?
Fred, I agree with your philosophy. Of course we all try to do our best to write it right the first time, but things will escape us, and there will always be "better choices" that could be made (such as a more common example). The writer should definitely do a spell check and re-read what they have written to look for best word usage/punctuation/capitalization issues. Also check for spacing and graphics issues. We will probably agree that SMEs should be available to check for content and usage. In our company, the trainer determines the order of the topics, so they would check that. I would also maintain that other English-major-types look at the doc for structure, consistency of style and format and double-check for punctuation, spelling and capitalization. It seems that the only time anyone here disagrees with this, is when an error slips through. Then out comes the tar and feathers for the writer...never for the other FIVE people who looked at it. ? -Original Message- From: Ridder, Fred [mailto:fred.rid...@intel.com] Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 3:31 PM To: d.mossfritch at comcast.net; Art Campbell; Natalie Bircher Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: OT - Who should be responsible for proofing? What you have described is much deeper than what I would call proofreading. I would put some it under the heading of SME content review (which shouldn't get sidetracked in issues of grammar or punctuation), and most of it under editing (which really has several of its own subcategories). No one set of eyes is ever going to pick up all classes of errors and issues. And if the number of different people available to review/edit/proofread a document is limited, you'll still get better results if those people do multiple passes through the document with a limited scope for each pass. My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel. Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com) Intel Parsippany, NJ -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of d.mossfritch at comcast.net Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 3:19 PM To: Art Campbell; Natalie Bircher Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: OT - Who should be responsible for proofing? Good Day Art and Natalie, If you are looking at only spelling and grammar, perhaps. However, the problems encountered at our site deal more with content (complete procedures, no link from the help file to an application's Help buttons, lack of option and data column descriptions, and more) and the structure of documents. A couple of years ago our expert (of spelling and grammer) reviewed a contractor's publication and offered a couple of comments. What the expert had missed was the description of the software application was backwards of the application's actual purpose and operation. Afraid I must say that proofing a document depends upon the purpose of that proofing. Best, Denise L. Moss-Fritch -- Original message -- From: "Art Campbell" <art.campb...@gmail.com> > In practical terms, it should be the person who gets zinged if there's > a mistake and/or the person in the organization with the best spelling > and grammar skills. > > If you're asking a process question, I'd say no, it should never be > the writer because he/she has looked at the copy too much to look at > it with fresh eyes. > > But back in practical terms, if the writer is the best speller / > grammarian, he/she is likely to get stuck with the job. > > Art > > > > On 12/15/06, Natalie Bircher wrote: > > This is off topic, but something that we all must come across as > > writers. Who should be responsible for the final proofing of the > > documents you write? Should it ever be the writer? ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as fred.ridder at intel.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/fred.ridder%40intel. com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
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